No books should be burned, but Undermen should be. That is, the men who are susceptible to such things need to be removed from existence, by reapplying heavy forces of natural selection to our populations.

I can't believe the overwhelming majority of VNNers voted to ban books written and published by our enemies. I don't give a damn how fucked-up and full of shit they may be, the whole idea of burning thought and opinion is Orwellian totalitarianism at it's finest. Here we are bitching about juden control of the media in all it's forms, screaming at the top of our lungs about how censorship -- as practiced by anyone -- is morally and constitutionally wrong and yet we would implement the same stifling, draconian laws if we were to come to power. Apparently the majority of folks here believe Whites are incapable of thinking for themselves and sorting the wheat from the chaff. What, you afraid of the same thing the jew is?....freedom of the press, freedom of thought and expression?!

I voted for the second from bottom option.

I voted for the second from bottom option.

Same here.

Burning/banning books is ridiculous, and anyway, it will only serve to make them more popular.

I don't know what makes you think that. There is a historical record of German National Socialists burning books written by lying, corrupting jews. Those books merited destruction.

Jews don't need to burn books, by controlling the media they simply deny publishing and/or marketing to books that reveal their sinister agenda. When we regain power we must take that weapon from them.

I would say none of the above. Only Communists and Jews burn books. They have tried to destroy the bible for 1800 years yet it has always grown and prospered. It will never be destroyed nor will it fade away.
Back to book burning, only insecure people burn books.

I don't know what makes you think that. There is a historical record of German National Socialists burning books written by lying, corrupting jews. Those books merited destruction.

Jews don't need to burn books, by controlling the media they simply deny publishing and/or marketing to books that reveal their sinister agenda. When we regain power we must take that weapon from them.

I agree with you, Momus. Once we regain power, jews must never again be able to control the media in any form whatsoever. As a matter of fact, they won't even be around if we have our say so. Well, they might be hanging around. Let me add this...

Jews can't burn books, that's why they sought control of the publishing industry to begin with. They knew that as powerful as they had become, there was still this irritatiing, pesky little thing known as the First Amendment that forbids them from enacting mind-control techniques such as book banning. And just because NS Germany implemented laws banning books doesn't necessarily mean that we have to do the same in the 'kwa once we achieve power. It's doubtful we'll ever be in the same boat they were in.

AH didn't immediately call for Goebbels to set into place book banning laws as soon as he got into the driver's seat. The first books to be banned were pornographic in nature. If I'm not nistaken, the ban on politically subversive books really didn't gain much steam until after the threat of war loomed on the horizon and Germany started gearing up to fight what was soon to become a two-front war. Books bannings increased dramatically once war actually did start. In this particular instance, banning of books deemed politically subversive and dangerous to the very survival of Germany itself could be rationalized. But as I indicated, if and when we ever do regain power in the US, it's highly doubtful we're going to find ourselves in the same predicament that Germany found herself in -- for all pratical purposes, a landlocked country surrounded by enemies on all sides trying their damndest to eradicate it and it's people from the map.

A govt of tyrants are the only ones who fear their people thinking potentially subversive thoughts, and they have every reason to be afraid. If they were a legitimate govt looking out for the welfare of their citizens they'd have nothing to fear. Once censorship laws are in place, people are no longer "citizens" but subjects.

Apparently the majority of folks here believe Whites are incapable of thinking for themselves and sorting the wheat from the chaff

Do you have evidence to prove otherwise? I don't.

I wouldn't necessarily burn them but I wouldn't necessarily make them as readily accessible as they are. You find the idea of Big Brother offensive. I don't. As long as he is white.

A white nation, at first, would need totalitarian control over its public to set the general principles and laws of the land. So-called freedom, the "freedom" to race mix and commit homosexual acts, the freedom to remain racially ignorant, the freedom to engage in marxism . . these are not the freedoms I'm striving for.

Do you have evidence to prove otherwise? I don't.

I wouldn't necessarily burn them but I wouldn't necessarily make them as readily accessible as they are. You find the idea of Big Brother offensive. I don't. As long as he is white.

A white nation, at first, would need totalitarian control over its public to set the general principles and laws of the land. So-called freedom, the "freedom" to race mix and commit homosexual acts, the freedom to remain racially ignorant, the freedom to engage in marxism . . these are not the freedoms I'm striving for.

"Evidence to prove otherwise?" Re-read my post carefully. We were talking about when we regain power and the jew is no longer exerting his control over White minds, shoving one view and one view only down their gullible throats. If our ancestors had any inkling whatsoever the jew would one day attain the power over the media he has today and thus over the minds of the people, they would have surely have implemented safeguards to prevent such a thing from happening. Once the jew's influence is totally eradicated from White society the lemming will once again be able to enjoy the freedom of thought and variety of opinion he's been denied these many decades. Then he'll be more than capable of sorting the wheat from the chaff.

And just why would we need Big Brother to implement "totalitarian control over it's public to set the general principles and law of the land?" You can outlaw the aberrations you've listed and scores more w/o resorting to total censorship. Our forefathers could have (and probably would have if they had any idea of what the nation they had founded was to become 200 yrs. later) easily written laws into the Constitution w/o in any way, shape, or form resembling the "Brotherhood" you seem so willing to give up your freedoms for. I'm talking about the freedom to read anything and think anyway you want w/o the thought police battering down the door of your home in the wee hrs. and tearing the place apart searching for reading material deemed inappropriate to blind obedience to the state. Who said anything about not wanting laws against homosexuality or engaging in marxist activity?

Would you also ban murder mystery novels because they might give you ideas on how to kill someone? Would you burn books on child abuse because they might give you ideas on how to molest a child? It's the same concept as banning books on marxism because they might give you ideas on how to overthrow the state. You're talking about open acceptance of mind control here. Do you understand the dangers of that?

If anything, books such as the Talmud and the Communist Manifesto should be studied diligently after the jew is removed from power so as to educate people about their evils and dangers to White people and their society. But no, you would rather have Big Brother burn the books, pretend they never existed, or send them off down the "memory hole", just as was done in 1984...

As to the statement of yours I highlighted, I believe I'll just let that stand. I think it speaks volumes in itself.

We were talking about when we regain power and the jew is no longer exerting his control over White minds, shoving one view and one view only down their gullible throats . . . Once the jew's influence is totally eradicated from White society the lemming will once again be able to enjoy the freedom of thought and variety of opinion he's been denied these many decades. Then he'll be more than capable of sorting the wheat from the chaff.

I don't trust anyone "sorting the wheat from the chaff" without at least some outside guidance on what the wheat is and what the chaff is. And do we really want that much of a variety of opinion? I mean hopefully we'll be generally on the same page.

You can outlaw the aberrations you've listed and scores more w/o resorting to total censorship.

Who is talking about total censorship?

Would you also ban murder mystery novels because they might give you ideas on how to kill someone? Would you burn books on child abuse because they might give you ideas on how to molest a child? It's the same concept as banning books on marxism because they might give you ideas on how to overthrow the state. You're talking about open acceptance of mind control here. Do you understand the dangers of that?

Define mind control. How is making books less accessible a form of mind control? It's not. Europeans lived for thousands of year without having the Communist Manifesto or feminist literature pushed upon them and I assume we can do it again.

Anyway, we could do a couple of things: 1) Lower the quantity of marxist literature. 2) Have accompanying books that explain why marxism is a bad idea.

If anything, books such as the Talmud and the Communist Manifesto should be studied diligently after the jew is removed from power so as to educate people about their evils and dangers to White people and their society. But no, you would rather have Big Brother burn the books, pretend they never existed, or send them off down the "memory hole", just as was done in 1984...

As to the statement of yours I highlighted, I believe I'll just let that stand. I think it speaks volumes in itself.

I don't really think there's a wrong queston in this. I see your point and understand it but I also don't see what's wrong with sending this shit down the "memory hole."

Jews spin pseudosciences like spiders webs, to catch goy grasshoppers.

So true! The reason those "sciences" existence is the very advancement of Jewish interests through apparently neutral ground. :cheers:

Jews censor truth, using lies instead. Aryans should censor Jew lies, using truth instead. Yes, THAT simple!

Your view holds ground only if people, by large, would be able to sort out truth for themselves. In fact, very few are. Most simply want to be fed with "truths" from a source of authority. Jews, the authority on all matters, indoctrinate whites into self-destruction. We should indoctrinate whites into Jew's destruction and respect of reality. Otherwise, holding firm to our "beloved democratic views", will only make our race once again infested by parasites working on its demise under the blanket of "freedom", "democracy" and "free speech".

So I recommend burning not only the books, but also its followers and appologizers. They are human refuse anyway and a total waste of resources.

I don't trust anyone "sorting the wheat from the chaff" without at least some outside guidance on what the wheat is and what the chaff is. And do we really want that much of a variety of opinion? I mean hopefully we'll be generally on the same page.

Who is talking about total censorship?

Define mind control. How is making books less accessible a form of mind control? It's not. Europeans lived for thousands of year without having the Communist Manifesto or feminist literature pushed upon them and I assume we can do it again.

Anyway, we could do a couple of things: 1) Lower the quantity of marxist literature. 2) Have accompanying books that explain why marxism is a bad idea.

I don't really think there's a wrong queston in this. I see your point and understand it but I also don't see what's wrong with sending this shit down the "memory hole."

People need "outside guidance" separating the wheat from the chaff? Funny, that's the same underlying principle the jew uses when shoving his agenda of multiculturalism and diversity down the throats of the goyim here in the 'kwa, "guiding" them to politically correct viewpoints. People do not need the gentle, guiding hand of Big Brother to steer them in a society where they are free to read what they want, when they want and come to their own conclusions. This is known as freedom of thought -- the ability to read all political opinion of your choosing w/o fear of being prosecuted for having dangerous, politically incorrect literature in your possession -- exactly as the framers of the Constitution intended it to be.

Totalitarian control, which you wouldn't mind being implemented, by definition implies "total censorship." Whether you ban 10 books or 10,000 solely because of the politically opposing viewpoints they express to those in power doesn't matter. A totalitarian govt would do just that: ban any and all books it considers a threat to it's total control of it's subjects. And that is total censorship in my book.

"Define mind control"? See above.

Yes, Euros did indeed "live for thousands of years without having the Communist Manifesto and feminist literature pushed upon them." But considering that the CM wasn't written until 1848 and feminist literature wasn't widely available until the '60s and therefore could not have been pushed upon them, I'd say that's a moot point. As I indicated earlier, once jews are removed from power in the West, nothing will be pushed upon us. These books should be made freely available for study, not indoctrination and as a means of advancing an agenda as has been the case these many decades. There's a huge difference between having something pushed upon you and having something laid bare before you for study and examination.

And yes, I agree that we should have accompanying material explaining why marxism is a bad idea and I implied as much when I said people should be educated about shit such as the CM and Talmud and their inherent dangers to the existence of our race. But I don't see your point of "lowering the quantity" of these books. That implies to me that only certain, hand-select folks should be able to read them.

"People need "outside guidance" separating the wheat from the chaff? Funny, that's the same underlying principle the jew uses when shoving his agenda of multiculturalism and diversity down the throats of the goyim here in the 'kwa, "guiding" them to politically correct viewpoints. "

Yes, it is exactly the way Jews do. And they are right! They know that most people are cockroaches and use that to their advantage. They fill empty minds with jewfriendly tunes. I say we should fill empty minds with aryanfriendly tunes.

As for the freedom of thought, it is something of no value/meaning for most people. It's like saying: you are free to roam on Mars, although I'm sure you will never use this "valuable freedom" to any length. Instead of giving masses freedom of thought, jews gave them freedom of fucking. That is something a cockroach could use and appreciate. This is why we are always met with distance and distrust! People know if we'd be powerful enough, we would take away their "freedoms" (to be degenerates) and give them something they dont really need or comprehend (the right to express himself without the fear of being emprisoned). Besides, why should anyone award me freedom of thought? If one wants to think free, he DOES, without being awarded a right to think. The latter would only create conformity, as it did in our society.

You are completely missing the point! Instead of giving them freedom of thought, one would teach them REALITY. Why is thought necessary as long as it doesn't conform to reality? Are we just debating for the sake of crushing our opponents? We must eviscerate "democratic" poison from our minds and flush the toilet with them for good. Our allegiance should go firmly towards making our people see the real world, ABOVE the ocean of Jew lies.

"People need "outside guidance" separating the wheat from the chaff? Funny, that's the same underlying principle the jew uses when shoving his agenda of multiculturalism and diversity down the throats of the goyim here in the 'kwa, "guiding" them to politically correct viewpoints. "

Yes, it is exactly the way Jews do. And they are right! They know that most people are cockroaches and use that to their advantage. They fill empty minds with jewfriendly tunes. I say we should fill empty minds with aryanfriendly tunes.

As for the freedom of thought, it is something of no value/meaning for most people. It's like saying: you are free to roam on Mars, although I'm sure you will never use this "valuable freedom" to any length. Instead of giving masses freedom of thought, jews gave them freedom of fucking. That is something a cockroach could use and appreciate. This is why we are always met with distance and distrust! People know if we'd be powerful enough, we would take away their "freedoms" (to be degenerates) and give them something they don't really need or comprehend (the right to express himself without the fear of being emprisoned). Besides, why should anyone award me with freedom of thought? If one wants to think free, he DOES, without being awarded a right to think. The latter would only create comformity, as it did in our society.

You are completely missing the point! Instead of giving them freedom of thought, one would teach them REALITY. Why is thought necessary as long as it doesn't conform to reality? Are we just debating for the sake of crushing our opponents?

I've purposely avoided answering your other replies simply because I think I've already covered them in a couple longwinded posts. And seeing as how I've given my pov and we seem to be rehashing the same points, I'm just going to highlight what I believe to be your, let's say "less tenable" assertions, and let others mull them over, carefully. How's that?

toodles

Whoops! Forgot. No one said anything about "awarding" people freedom of thought. It's a right (or should be), not an "award."

Truth stands by itself.Ban or burn them and you will constantly have to "chase" the underground,who will logic that if it was not truth then why are you trying to hide it,let them have it en masse,and ridicule any who take it seriously.

By "freedom of fucking" I meant "sexual revolution", Jew's greatest weapon of degeneracy.