I blame the jew for any fights.

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Jews always relish it when Whites are fighting each other. Don't you Fritz?

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Stormfront had a thread on this subject removed entirely. I do not know why. I do not know exactly what happened. I was not there. I do know that if this incident did indeed happen, regardless of why or how it happened, who started it, how many were involved or the odds, it makes all WNs look bad because we are all looked at as the same by everyone not a WN. Like it or not, that is a fact. How can we have White unity when s&#t like this happens? And this is not the first such incident that has happened or allegedly happened at a supposed White unity event. I have said this before and I will repeat: if all WNs unite, none of our enemies, which include the jews and their media; the government and their draconian, anti-White laws; the shitskin mud hordes; and the racemixing, "anti-racist" Whites, could stop us.

Jews always relish it when Whites are fighting each other. Don't you Fritz?

This is what Senor Ibarra wrote above - go read it.

"Now I have to wonder if they're really just White Trash, shaving their heads for God knows what reason?! I hope this stupid, cowardly, backstabbing sonsofbitches get fanletters from the ADL. Maybe it'll wake them up."

I simply pointed I that it probably wasn't Whites fighting each other. Either way, if you're going to put on the unform of the greatest fightest force in history, you'd better be prepared to fight.

Whatever the pathetic excuse given for the attack, nothing written here changes my view that it was a set up and that the NSM is being attacked because it is making progress, attracting the better skinhead elements to its ranks and challenging the failed national conservatives on the one hand and the Klan idiots on the other.

NSM has been able to make progress - and none of us are uncritical in our support - but one reason I have opted to stay away from this forum for so long is the inability of folk to see what is really happening. There is something deeply wrong with the US movement and honestly the NSM is the only group seeming to make an effort, evidenced by the fact that the jew media is increasingly hostile to it...and noticing it.

The attack comes against this background. The players in the conspiracy may have thought they were doing it for other reasons but in effect they should realise they have been, and are being, used by the hidden hand.

Mere calls for "unity" are pathetic. You cannot have any unity when so-called "resistance" groups (full of drunken skinhead idiots and men in bed sheets) attack the most effective pro-white group currently on the scene. Clearly, the IKA and skinheads are on their own side, and not the white race's side as shown by the attack. May they hold their heads in shame....

Wake up US movement. Wake up!

Now if this is accurate,then the guy making the statement absolutely deserved a beating.You don't go insulting someone,or a crew,and not expect retaliation.

So what are we trying to accomplish here?? Are we the fucking Mafia now?? An NSM member got up and gave a speech encouraging ACTIVISM! He had no idea that the Vinlanders called themselves a "Social Club"(which is embarrassing if you ask me).

The positioning and pre-planning of the attackers should tell you that this was planned far in advance, and the attack would have taken place no matter what the subject of the speech was.

If these COWARDS have a problem with Bill White and Mark Martin, which is the reason they gave for attacking these 5 members, then why not confront Bill White and Mark Martin?? Like cowardly Niggers, the Vinlanders attacked when they had superior numbers. If these assholes want to act like Niggers, then they should be treated like them.

Ask yourself a question.
Why does a private event attract hundreds of folks,yet we generally cannot get more than 15-20 people to take part in a public activity?

No booze served at the public activity?

-Jim

These battling skinheads and costumed clowns are nothing but a sorry sideshow. The true White movement will come from the suburbs, the farms, the ranks of small businessmen and military veterans - decent, normal people who have had enough. Until then the NSM will be battling Skins and Klansmen over members, mailing lists and money. And kikes, niggers and spics will have nothing to fear.

Why don't you just hold your breath until that day comes, huh?

No booze served at the public activity?

-Jim

You're probably right,jim.

The kikes are laughing their assess off right now. They love this kind of shit, and SHIT is exactly what it is.

The kikes have nothing to fear from us until we can stop acting like niggers, and band together. There is no way in hell a bunch of rag tag, unorganized groups who spend as much time fighting each other as they do fighting the kikes will be able to win any kind of a struggle for our race.

Regardless if you like the NSM or not, regardless of any personal problems you may have with your racial brothers and sisters,

[color="Red"]WE ARE BETTER THAN THIS!

You have about said it all, its is a harder struggle without a good amount of unity.

About Nordic Fest. . . .
Initial reports about trouble are INACCURATE and I herewith set the record straight!
Yes, there was an incident; but it started and was over in about ten seconds!!

Dawson Springs, KY -- For the seventh year in a row, Nordic Fest took place this Memorial Day weekend at the facilities of Imperial Klans of America (IKA). I attended the event as a special, invited guest speaker.

Several hundred pro-white folks from all over the United States gathered for a nice event, but the weather, a remark during a speech and a subsequent scuffle tainted the event a bit.

Initial reports about what happened were well-intentioned, but inaccurate. I was there. I personally saw what happened. Since I am the number one pro-white media host in the world, it is my job to set the record straight, so here goes.

Around 9:00 AM on Saturday morning, a violent thunderstorm raced through the area and lightning struck a telephone pole near the IKA property, knocking-out electric. This delayed the start of Nordic Fest because the amps for the bands could not be powered.

Kentucky Electric Power responded quickly and began re-setting the numerous circuit breakers which had popped on many poles in the area. Power was restored in about two hours.

As the sun came out, it got hot. VERY hot. The temperatures climbed into the mid 90's rapidly and the humidity was thick. Folks stayed cool and some started drinking early.

When power came on again around 11, the amplifiers on stage were tested and at least one of them took a hit from the lightning and wasn't working, so the bands couldn't play right away. That was discouraging but hey, there was nothing we could do about it, so folks simply did what they could to socialize while efforts at repair were made. The drinking continued.

Then, the power went out again as Kentucky Electric continued making repairs in the area.

The heat and humidity became stifling. There were lots of bugs buzzing around which got on people's nerves.

Just when we thought things couldn't get worse, the generator powering the refreshment concession went clank, clank, BANG. It threw a rod! No more cold beverages! (See how these troubles might be setting-up a bad mood?)

Around 4:00, the power was back and a new generator was powering the concession stand. The speeches began. There were ten speakers scheduled to address the crowd with me being the "grand finale."

The Eighth speaker to be introduced was Mr. Boswell from NSM. He took the stage and gave his speech, much of which was dedicated to street activism and the need to take things public for the pro-white cause.

Then, it came: A single sentence in that speech which went SOMETHING LIKE: ". . . . . the NSM gets out and does things; not like some groups who call themselves a social club, whose members only sit around getting drunk."

I must tell you that this is NOT verbatim, but it is close enough so you get the jist of what was said.

The only group in attendance who calls themselves a social club was the Vinlander Social Club and they took offense immediately.

The leader of Vinlanders, Brien James, walked over to the side door of the stage to have a word with the NSM guy, Boswell. They spoke behind the stage.

I didn't see what happened there, but within a minute or so, I heard a woman (Boswell's wife) yelling with rage about something. She wasn't screaming for help, but she was pissed off royally about something. It was this yelling that got everyone's attention and we all turned toward the area the yelling was coming from.

With that, I saw Brien James walking out from behind the stage area. His face was beet red as though he had just been in an argument or perhaps some physical activity. (I don't know which, because I wasn't back there and I couldn't see what happened.)

Brien walked to the left, toward the Vinlanders. Boswell from the NSM was walking toward the right, about 30 yeards away from me, toward the NSM guys.

At that moment, I saw Brien James and a whole slew of Vinlanders walk - en masse - toward the NSM guys, who stood their ground. It was clear to everyone a fight was about to break out.

The IKA security got on their walkie-talkies, called "Code Red, Fight" and asked for back-up.

As the Vinlanders and NSM collided, IKA Security- armed with shotguns - instantly began pulling the two groups apart to halt the trouble. Nobody dared screw with the security because they were heavily armed, so the fight ended within seconds. Literally seconds. I'd say about ten seconds.

I can state for a FACT that not a single IKA member perpetrated any attack upon anyone. They broke the fight up.

The Keystone State Skinheads (KSS) were behind me and to my left, close to the concession stand. They offered to help IKA pull the groups apart. I did not see even a single KSS member perpetrate any attack upon anyone.

As stated earlier, the incident began and ended within ten seconds. Literally ten seconds.

Mr. Boswell of NSM was slightly injured and was bleeding, but he got up and walked on his own, without need of help.

At that point, Ron Edwards, leader of IKA arrived in a car on the field, armed. He had been up at the main gate and the fight was over as Ron pulled up.

Ron told the NSM guys they were welcome to stay and suggested they get together and talk about what happened to smooth-things-over. The NSM guys chose to leave and Ron instructed IKA Security to make certain they were protected from harm. IKA helped the NSM pack up and walked with them as they exited so no other trouble would happen. IKA did a terrrific job and they deserve credit for their professionalism.

KSS assisted IKA in an effort to pull the groups apart and it was all over within about ten seconds. Neither IKA nor KSS atacked anyone and those groups have gotten a bum rap by some well-intnetioned but factually inaccurate coverage of the incident. I know - because I was there and I saw the whole thing with my own eyes.

It is appropriate for me to comment as follows: This could have been handled better by the NSM and the Vinlanders. I was disappointed at the scuffle and a lot of other people were too. Many folks got up and left.

The NSM guy who made the speech should have chosen his words more carefully. The Vinlanders who were offended should have handled the offense differently. We need to be fighting our enemy, not each other.

Both sides who scuffled bear some responsibility for what happened. IKA and KSS do not.

Oh, and about my "grand finale" seepch. . . . . . I gave it to about twenty (20) people. Oh well. Life goes on.

--Hal Turner

http://www.halturnershow.com/NordicFestScuffle.html

This is what Senor Ibarra wrote above - go read it.

"Now I have to wonder if they're really just White Trash, shaving their heads for God knows what reason?! I hope this stupid, cowardly, backstabbing sonsofbitches get fanletters from the ADL. Maybe it'll wake them up."

I simply pointed I that it probably wasn't Whites fighting each other. Either way, if you're going to put on the unform of the greatest fightest force in history, you'd better be prepared to fight.

http://www.elsocialista.es/eje-ibarra2.jpg

That's another Ibarra google turned up, he looks White to me. I don't know though, I usually don't ask for surnames when I have to gauge someones race. Looks like the NSM doesn't either.
Bin Laden did 9/11!

Originally Posted by brutus
I blame the jew for any fights.

Posted by jozu
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You should disregard that post, I was speaking to the brighter people here.

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Is it any wonder why jews dominate in the sciences of the mind?

This whole controversy, smacks of jew. And whether we think so or not, those kikes at the ADL are pissing themselves laughing at us.

Would those who threw the fist punches, attack a jew with the same ferocity and rage? Do White men make valid targets? Do White men make suitable punching bags? This sounds so much like what the commies would do, that I can’t help but believe otherwise that a jew didn’t have a hand in this.

Are we going to continue to play the jew’s game and pick up our marbles and go home?

Are we going be obedient little jew-bots and wall ourselves off from one another with harsh and insulting declarations?

Are we going to allow the jew to put his cattle into separate pens where we can do no harm to the jew?

I would suggest that our Skinhead Brothers do some soul searching and look to our real enemy to attack. And, our Brothers at the NSM would do well to accept blame for inadvertently insulting the Skinsheads.

Public apologies from both camps would be the White thing to do. Anything less shows obedience to the jew.

Just a quick note here about "heart." As the Vinlanders approached, the NSM guys were outnumbered maybe 20 to 1, but they stood their ground. What Heart!

No one can deny the NSM has their balls strapped on pretty tight, a special breed amongst us for sure. It looks like the Vinlanders like to roleplay as barbarians by ganging up on smaller groups and insulting a dedicated mother and wife like niggers. Fuck 'em, let them keep to themselves and congregate at their circle jerks with their "social club" while the NSM is provoking nigger riots in inner city cesspits and confronting the enemy in the street. The battle is waged in the field, these petty gatherings are an excuse to not show your face where it really counts.

I don't understand why anyone would want to go sit in the dirt and hear people spout off about jews and niggers for a weekend. While I have met some skinheads that seem okay, as a group they seem to be as degenerate as a motorcycle gang (in the USA). They use women (skanky titty dancers) and really only accomplish drinking, fucking and tattooing. The Vinlanders were a reformation of the Outlaw Hammerskins who couldn't stick to the rules of the original Hammerskins. These people are going nowhere but prison or the morgue.
NSM is not much better. In terms of fighting ability they are a joke. You wanna play with the big boys, you better understand the rules. Your big bellies look like punching bags to them. OHS has had a long standing problem with the NSM. They should have understood that and steered clear of them.