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How would you respond to this to best reveal the jewspeak within it?

I have already explained to you in another thread about Askenazi and Sephardim? I will go over that again with you since you didnt seem to read it. The two are based on geographic regions from which they came. Askenazi come from Eastern Europe and Sephardim are from the Spanish Penninsula. I know of no Jewish person who has ever said we are our own race. We do say that we are Causasian (for the most part) but a unique ethnic identity within the Caucasian classification of racial identity. To say that Askenazi -Jews are a race would be the same as calling an Italian Catholic a serperate race. Yes we are an ethnicity, just like Italians and the Irish, but none are a race. Race is Causian, Black, Asian etc.

Now as for the geopolitical situation in the Middle East. Prior to the Balfour Declaration of the late 1900's. There was no country called Palestine. There were no people called Palestinians. The concept of Palestinians is new. They were first identifies during the partition of land by the League of Nations and then the UH. Prior to this they were first considered Ottoman as part of the Ottoman Empire and later considered either Syrian or Egyptian depending on who controlled the region. There was no Jewish invasion of Palestine. The Jews had legally bought land there, or emigrated to Jewish owned land after the real "holocaust' of Nazi Germany. Jewish tanks didnt storm in from anywhere.

Then in 1948, UN divided the territory into two parts: Israel and Palenstine. This was done based on who owned the land in which territories. Not four hours after the declaration of the two new nations, the Arab Nations including the new country of Palestine attacked Israel and were rebuffed, even lost territory in the process. Israel's War for Independence was a defensive war that went tragically wrong for the Arab invaders. (seems that it isnt the first war of independence huh?) Once a truce was called the territorial possessions were what is commonly referred to as the 1967 boundaries or the blue line. The Arab League then told all Palestinians living in Israel to leave the country. The government of Israel never kicked anyone out. Even today, Israelis Arabs enjoy full rights as citizens as everyone else.

The people who left, went to the areas commonly known as Gaza and the West Bank. Gaza was controlled by Egypt, WB by Syria. At that point, both countries had the chance, without negotiations with anyone including Israel, to create a sovereign nation of Palestine. Have you ever wondered why they didnt? We wouldnt be dealing with the situation if they had. But it was all about greed. Both countries didnt want to deal with the "palestinians' but wanted the land. Which they eventually lost in the Six Day War in 1967.

As for the 'holocaust', for years now the Israeli government has recognized the right of existance of the Palestinian state. And yet, Palestinian groups such as Hamas and Islamic Jihad refused to reciprocate. They espouse the anihiliation of the state of Israel.

I do not condone what Ariel Sharon did in the camps in Lebanon and I do believe there is a special place in hell for him. But, there are too many accounts of attacks on innocent Israelis to say that the Palestianians are without blame.

In fact, much of this current situation could have been avoided had Araft agreed to the peace deal brokered with President Clinton and PM Barak. They offered 98% of all lands, removal of the settlements, recognition of the Palestinian state and US aid to establish a working economy in Palestine. Arafat turned it down because he realized that his whole reason for power was to keep the conflict alive. Once there was peace, the PLO was going to have to deal with the day -to-day workings of running a country. Something that they still are having a problem with.


 
Posted : 13/02/2007 12:16 pm
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