Originally Posted by Uncle John
Do any of you really think that the current flailing about of ZOG in the Mideast is the visible manifestation of some deep-laid, subtle plan?

I certainly do. I see it unfolding. Here's some proof:

A Clean Break:
A New Strategy for Securing the Realm

Following is a report prepared by The Institute for Advanced Strategic and Political Studies’ "Study Group on a New Israeli Strategy Toward 2000." The main substantive ideas in this paper emerge from a discussion in which prominent opinion makers, including Richard Perle, James Colbert, Charles Fairbanks, Jr., Douglas Feith, Robert Loewenberg, David Wurmser, and Meyrav Wurmser participated. The report, entitled "A Clean Break: A New Strategy for Securing the Realm," is the framework for a series of follow-up reports on strategy.
Israel has a large problem. Labor Zionism, which for 70 years has dominated the Zionist movement, has generated a stalled and shackled economy. Efforts to salvage Israel’s socialist institutions—which include pursuing supranational over national sovereignty and pursuing a peace process that embraces the slogan, "New Middle East"—undermine the legitimacy of the nation and lead Israel into strategic paralysis and the previous government’s "peace process." That peace process obscured the evidence of eroding national critical mass— including a palpable sense of national exhaustion—and forfeited strategic initiative. The loss of national critical mass was illustrated best by Israel’s efforts to draw in the United States to sell unpopular policies domestically, to agree to negotiate sovereignty over its capital, and to respond with resignation to a spate of terror so intense and tragic that it deterred Israelis from engaging in normal daily functions, such as commuting to work in buses.
Benjamin Netanyahu’s government comes in with a new set of ideas. While there are those who will counsel continuity, Israel has the opportunity to make a clean break; it can forge a peace process and strategy based on an entirely new intellectual foundation, one that restores strategic initiative and provides the nation the room to engage every possible energy on rebuilding Zionism, the starting point of which must be economic reform. To secure the nation’s streets and borders in the immediate future, Israel can:

• Work closely with Turkey and Jordan to contain, destabilize, and roll-back some of its most dangerous threats. This implies clean break from the slogan, "comprehensive peace" to a traditional concept of strategy based on balance of power.[/*:m:35iodlpg]
• Change the nature of its relations with the Palestinians, including upholding the right of hot pursuit for self defense into all Palestinian areas and nurturing alternatives to Arafat’s exclusive grip on Palestinian society.[/*:m:35iodlpg]
• Forge a new basis for relations with the United States—stressing self-reliance, maturity, strategic cooperation on areas of mutual concern, and furthering values inherent to the West. This can only be done if Israel takes serious steps to terminate aid, which prevents economic reform.[/*:m:35iodlpg][/list:u:35iodlpg]This report is written with key passages of a possible speech marked TEXT, that highlight the clean break which the new government has an opportunity to make. The body of the report is the commentary explaining the purpose and laying out the strategic context of the passages.

A New Approach to Peace
Early adoption of a bold, new perspective on peace and security is imperative for the new prime minister. While the previous government, and many abroad, may emphasize "land for peace"— which placed Israel in the position of cultural, economic, political, diplomatic, and military retreat — the new government can promote Western values and traditions. Such an approach, which will be well received in the United States, includes "peace for peace," "peace through strength" and self reliance: the balance of power.
A new strategy to seize the initiative can be introduced:
TEXT:

• We have for four years pursued peace based on a New Middle East. We in Israel cannot play innocents abroad in a world that is not innocent. Peace depends on the character and behavior of our foes. We live in a dangerous neighborhood, with fragile states and bitter rivalries. Displaying moral ambivalence between the effort to build a Jewish state and the desire to annihilate it by trading "land for peace" will not secure "peace now." Our claim to the land —to which we have clung for hope for 2000 years--is legitimate and noble. It is not within our own power, no matter how much we concede, to make peace unilaterally. Only the unconditional acceptance by Arabs of our rights, especially in their territorial dimension, "peace for peace," is a solid basis for the future.[/*:m:35iodlpg][/list:u:35iodlpg]Israel’s quest for peace emerges from, and does not replace, the pursuit of its ideals. The Jewish people’s hunger for human rights — burned into their identity by a 2000-year old dream to live free in their own land — informs the concept of peace and reflects continuity of values with Western and Jewish tradition. Israel can now embrace negotiations, but as means, not ends, to pursue those ideals and demonstrate national steadfastness. It can challenge police states; enforce compliance of agreements; and insist on minimal standards of accountability.

Securing the Northern Border
Syria challenges Israel on Lebanese soil. An effective approach, and one with which American can sympathize, would be if Israel seized the strategic initiative along its northern borders by engaging Hizballah, Syria, and Iran, as the principal agents of aggression in Lebanon, including by:

• striking Syria’s drug-money and counterfeiting infrastructure in Lebanon, all of which focuses on Razi Qanan.[/*:m:35iodlpg]
• paralleling Syria’s behavior by establishing the precedent that Syrian territory is not immune to attacks emanating from Lebanon by Israeli proxy forces.[/*:m:35iodlpg]
• striking Syrian military targets in Lebanon, and should that prove insufficient, striking at select targets in Syria proper.[/*:m:35iodlpg][/list:u:35iodlpg]

More here:

http://www.iasps.org/strat1.htm

Do any of you really think that the current flailing about of ZOG in the Mideast is the visible manifestation of some deep-laid, subtle plan?

i think both FJ & Kievsky have made valid points here.
Kievsky's idea of 'a secret society' is similar to Dr Pierce's 'The Order' re:
Turner Diaries
while retaining the greatest respect and admiration for Bob Matthews and others of the currently imprisoned 'Order' (and if any of them were inadvertent 'rats', they have paid for that ten times over or more.....it's hard for people who have had no experience with the 'down-side' of law enforcement to resist the subtle and not-so-subtle psychological pressure emanating from cops when arrested and incarcerated. Just being 'arrested' and in custody puts you @ an automatic psychological dis-advantage so that even an old 'cop trick' like the 'good cop/bad cop' routine can khybosh many into 'spilling the beans'. WNs engaging in 'insurgency' should preferably be of the toughest physical and psychological character possible[preferably ex-military to boot...better yet: ex-'Special Forces'] well-versed in the 'counter-insurgency' techniques, tricks and 'psychological pressure-points' used daily by various ZOG law-enforcers; or, @ least, an 'insurgency' should consist of physically & psychologically tough people trained and commanded by such ex-military types....but: i digress)
a new 'Order' would require white people of the absolutely highest calibre possible: intellectually, physically and psychologically: people wise in the deceptive ways of ZOG and well-versed in waging both psy-ops and military-ops.
Naturally, that's gunna be a short list.
Under them, they should have people of almost equal ability but maybe not up to such rarified attributes as The Order it-self.
Under them, others of some-what lesser abilities &c
And all this organised on the tried-and-true 'cell structure'
AFA the greater mass of whites being 'swung' to WN ideas: i think 'Charles' is correct: forget them.....they've been pretty much totally ZOG-ged out!
WE DON'T NEED THEM!
WE DON'T WANT THEM!
ABOVE ALL: IF THEY'RE NOT WN by NOW, THEN WE CAN'T TRUST THEM!
Concentrate first and foremost on the children and the youth whose minds are still fertile, malleable and susceptible to radical new ideas.
that's where the coming battle's gunna be fought and won or fought and lost! :box:

I seem to remember saying this here before but no revolution in history has involved the mythical 'mass uprising' scenario.

ALL revolutions have occurred because of a small, committed, dedicated, well-funded and well-organised 'core group' basically pulling off a coup d'etat-type effort and taking it from there as the socio-political, socio-economic circumstances dictate.

It's pretty much a Turner Diaries-type scenario all the way down with shades of the 'Russian Revolution', 'Castro`s Cuba' &c

(jimbo!)

There will be no "revolution", the masses will never wake up in the way you are thinking.

You cannot steal the wheel back from the nuts who have it now, they are aware of you, unlike how you were unaware of them when they took it. They have a wild crazy eyed look and are intent on driving this truck called white society off of the tallest cliff they can find before they run out of gas or grass.

The only solution is to recolonize, separate, and keep out the scum, as the old established cities devolve and burn to the ground and change into the ruins of a grand experiment of nature/habit/bahavior ignoring egalitarianism.

Well, to clarify, my proposed "secret society" is not for the purpose of carrying out 4th Generation Warfare against ZOG.

The purpose of it is quite simply to begin to create a White-aware nation within the nation. Like jews, gypsies, and Jehovah's Witnesses. I want to win the hearts and minds of a few White families to the idea of "US" versus "THEM," where "THEM" is the dirty, judaized, race-mixing masses of glop and "US" are the valuable, organically elite White Gene Pool. Remember the series of articles by "The Salesman" on VNN about selling the "White Gene Pool" the way JW's sell their kookiness? That's the best model I can think of, and the Salesman always made the point that the White Gene Pool is an infinitely better product than JW kookiness.

There's a Kingdom Hall not five miles from here, and I always see cars parked there. Jehovah Witness has got to be a hard sell. I see their pamphlets around -- utter silly fantasy -- Lions cavorting playfully with Lambs, WTF?

On the other hand, the White Gene Pool religion is very practical. It's like, duh, a no-brainer, for anyone who has decided to take a practical and sensible way of life.

Many of you out there are saying, "White people are lost, they are too stupid, they'll never wake up, the masses are worthless," etc. I understand why you say that. But not all of them.

I'm going to give y'all some practical advice on how to organize. I unfortunately am not in a position to do this myself because I am yoked to a family and my life is pretty tightly regulated (which I don't mind, my family is a blessing).

The iron is HOT HOT HOT right now, it's time to strike. White people out there, especially the 18 to 22 set right out of high school -- the ignored rural White kids working retail at malls out in the hinterlands of the Kwa, they are ready to hear something.

Here's the trick -- don't fly the flag of White nationalism. Instead, pose as an anti-war libertarian -- the Buchanan/Raimondo line. Also, become well versed in the critique of Globalism -- how Wal-Mart products are made by child slave labor, and the women and girls in the slave factories are raped and abused. This will get the White community college girls working at Starbucks listening to you.

You will be thier first introduction to politics. Explain to them that you first learned about all this stuff from the Left, but the Left has a wild-eyed racist view of White people, as though White people are the root of all evil, and ask the kid, "Are you the root of all evil?" He or she will say, "Hell, of course not!" and you answer, "Well, that's why I am an anti-war libertarian and anti-globalist nationalist. I hate exploitation as much as the next guy, but somehow I dont' think that the world would break out in the Garden of Eden if all the White people disappeared, which is the way the Lefties/Marxists/multiculturalists think. In general I am not a utopian -- which means I don't think there is some magic solution to make everything better; that said, I think it's worth fighting to stop the war and if there's going to be slave labor in Asia, I don't want any goods made with slave labor imported into THIS COUNTRY."

If the newbie wants to see an example of the Left, show them some choice stuff from http://www.racetraitor.org about "abolishing the White race." (he says "abolish" and he means genocide, and this scumbag is a professor at Harvard, can ya believe it?)

As far as activities -- show them movies like The End of Suburbia, the Future of Food, Valley of the Wolves Iraq (I ordered it from ebay, still waiting, maybe it got intercepted), maybe a 911 truth movie.

Get them doing anti-war and anti-depleted uranium protests. Keep them busy, and don't reveal WN connection until they are deep into it. Get them talking about it in a friendly way. Talk about environmental destruction as a result of overpopulation, but mention how we used to be 33% of the world and we are now 8%.

Well, to clarify, my proposed "secret society" is not for the purpose of carrying out 4th Generation Warfare against ZOG
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OK.......perhaps my 'cut-off' age of 16/17yrs for whites is a bit too radical....could be upped to, say, 25yrs
but, i think, after that, whites are usually committed to other things like family and career and don't wanna 'rock the boat' as it were even though that boat is the Titanic!
whites over, say, 35, who are ZOGged are, IMHO, just a waste of time & resources which could be much better utilised rescuing the infinitely more valuable members of the white gene pool(re: children and the youth!)
AFA the rest of it's concerned....there's no use doing all this 'preaching & teaching' if u haven't got a power structure ready to step in and take political power. Let's FACE IT! that's ultimately what we're talking about here.....the end result of all our efforts must be to control our own destinies and that means taking political control @ some time (hopefully!) in the near future!
that's another lesson from revolutions past!
(good methodologies expounded by Kievsky though. obviously has put some thought into all of this.)

(jimbo!)