Evidence for a real...
 
Notifications
Clear all

Evidence for a realm of reality beyond this physical universe.

49 Posts
20 Users
0 Reactions
3,056 Views
Briseis
(@briseis)
Posts: 227
Reputable Member
 

I feel that Deja Vu is the rememberance of something that you dreamed. Is this true? What are other people's opinions on this? Whenever I have a Deja Vu, it's always a scene from a dream that I've had. I'm just wondering if other people have this same experience.

I've had it from dreams but mostly not.
Then there's all kinds of other weird forms of "deja vu".
I've even had it while IN a dream (and repeating dreams, if anyone has had these, arent you glad when they finally go away!?)
Its neat to see men talk about this, because most men are not in tune with this, or maybe it is the linear/compartmentalized way men tend to think that makes it harder for them
to have this stuff happen to them. (I can never remember right or left brain means what, but I know men have more of a separation between the brain halves or "hemispheres" than women)-

One can even "get good" at "letting in" these things, but the problem is shutting it off, kind of like if you add too many people to your yahoo chat messenger, then its like "go away, acckk , go on invisible mode".. Im not saying these are "personalities" or "hearing voices" (not in my case anyway) but the concept of when you start noticing stuff, it can be very great, or creepy or annoying, its not like how a "jew movie" would portray it. I dont know that it can be portrayed.

The hard part is in either trying to control it, or even thinking one has control over it. There's probably people out there who have had some kind of (what to call it, all the trademarked words sound lame "supernatural" "psychic" etc) experience, but then tries to blow it off and assign some other cause to it.

Im with Devere about the rote automatic dismissal of an idea with the hysterical "Ackkkk! another culture believed something similar! " and the pronouncement "Thats not WHITE! HERESY!!"
Thats what I was talking about in some other thread about false syllogisms.
(logical fallacies) like
1) this other culture believed something
2) the other culture isnt White
Misguided conclusion:
3) idea must be crap

a pic from the husbands trip in july


http://silentconsort.com/http://silentconsort.wordpress.com/

 
Posted : 27/11/2006 11:42 pm
brutus
(@brutus)
Posts: 4435
Illustrious Member
 

Remember Alan Watts? He had a lot of clever things to say about how things might work. After the awe wore-off, I decided that it was all a crock of shit.

The gall bladder secretes bile, the mouth secretes saliva and the brain secretes thought. Therefore, you are reading my secretions. Disgusting notion, and I suggest that you use a Handi-Wipe on your brain when you’re through with this.

The vibration of atoms. That’s all it is. The illusion of the awareness of self. Mobius strip logic and nothing more.

The real smart guys look for the ultimate unified field theory. The great common denominator of gravity, electricity and magnetism. But would any of that exist if there were no human brains in the universe to perceive it? Forget about the tree falling in the woods, we’re thinking big here!

The answer can only be found by telling a story:

The pilgrim journeyed long and far to see the fabled Cushi Lama, sage of all wise men and the keeper of all that is genuine. Upon reaching the temple of truth, home of the Cushi Lama, the pilgrim took off his shoes and rubbed the sacred sand on his hands. He entered the grand temple and walked up to the large bronze antechamber door. Three prescribed times, he made use of the giant door knocker. As the echoes of his knocking subsided, the door slowly opened to reveal a long dark passage from which he could see at it’s end, another door, slightly ajar with a golden light shining out from it’s slight gap. As he approached the door he could hear a faint chuckling sound coming from the other side. He opened the door to reveal a massive room that was bathed in an amber glow from which there was no apparent source. And there, sitting upon a magnificent golden throne, he saw a man of ancient age dressed in royal purple robes. His long White hair cascaded over his shoulders and his equally White beard covered most of his face. And from the midst this White hair the pilgrim could see the Cushi Lama’s radiate blue eyes blaze deep into his own awed gaze.

The Cushi Lama’s chuckling now turned into riotous laughter that increased in intensity until the he finally had to stop for being out of breath.

The pilgrim was taken aback by this most unusual greeting and stammered, “I have traveled a very long way to see you, and to hear the truth of all truths......And all you do is laugh at me?”

The Cushi Lama said, “How many times will you come?”

“Now you’re going to try to convince me that you’re not me!”

With that, the Cushi Lama started to once again, laugh uncontrollably.


The ink of the learned is as precious as the blood of the martyr. For one drop of ink may make millions think.

 
Posted : 28/11/2006 12:40 am
(@devere)
Posts: 2756
Famed Member
Topic starter
 

I've had it from dreams but mostly not.
Then there's all kinds of other weird forms of "deja vu".
I've even had it while IN a dream (and repeating dreams, if anyone has had these, arent you glad when they finally go away!?)
Its neat to see men talk about this, because most men are not in tune with this, or maybe it is the linear/compartmentalized way men tend to think that makes it harder for them
to have this stuff happen to them. (I can never remember right or left brain means what, but I know men have more of a separation between the brain halves or "hemispheres" than women)-

One can even "get good" at "letting in" these things, but the problem is shutting it off, kind of like if you add too many people to your yahoo chat messenger, then its like "go away, acckk , go on invisible mode".. Im not saying these are "personalities" or "hearing voices" (not in my case anyway) but the concept of when you start noticing stuff, it can be very great, or creepy or annoying, its not like how a "jew movie" would portray it. I dont know that it can be portrayed.

The hard part is in either trying to control it, or even thinking one has control over it. There's probably people out there who have had some kind of (what to call it, all the trademarked words sound lame "supernatural" "psychic" etc) experience, but then tries to blow it off and assign some other cause to it.

Im with Devere about the rote automatic dismissal of an idea with the hysterical "Ackkkk! another culture believed something similar! " and the pronouncement "Thats not WHITE! HERESY!!"
Thats what I was talking about in some other thread about false syllogisms.
(logical fallacies) like
1) this other culture believed something
2) the other culture isnt White
Misguided conclusion:
3) idea must be crap

I haven't had many paranormal experiences. Just the three over a 60 year period. They were discrete -- clear beginnings and ends, each very different from the other. But all three were emotionally and intellectually powerful and point in the same direction.

As for Hengest's "reincarnation is of an alien culture" -- no, Hindi & Buddhism were both products of an Aryan, White culture, turned brown later inevitably, despite the caste system.

But, yes, other cultures can perceive truth -- and we should take truth as truth wherever we find it.


 
Posted : 28/11/2006 6:39 am
(@devere)
Posts: 2756
Famed Member
Topic starter
 

Remember Alan Watts? He had a lot of clever things to say about how things might work. After the awe wore-off, I decided that it was all a crock of shit.

The gall bladder secretes bile, the mouth secretes saliva and the brain secretes thought. Therefore, you are reading my secretions. Disgusting notion, and I suggest that you use a Handi-Wipe on your brain when you&#8217]I read Alan Watts about 38 years ago. He tried to make Buddhism understandable to White Westerners. I think he succeeded quite well. (I don't fully agree with Buddhism, by the way, but it beats Christianity hands down.)

As for your implied notion that all perceptions or conclusions suggestive of a timeless realm beyond the physical temporal universe -- are merely the whir of our mind's unstoppable thinking. I disagree. You're a highly intelligent fellow, but perhaps I've studied this question more deeply than you, Brutus -- and had genuine confirmatory/initiating experiences you haven't had. Is this not possible?

Read the two books I suggest -- and get back to me. They approach this question from an experimental/objective observational basis. After you read about these explorations, explain to me why you still think those conclusions are "a crock of shit." Until you've read the support/evidence I've presented, you're not in a position to make a meaningful judgment, one way or the other. My purpose in starting this thread is not so much to convince as to suggest -- and to encourage you all to pursue this matter on your own and arrive at your own conclusions.

On the other hand, I am definitely interested in your take right now -- as things stand right now for you, at your present level of understanding. But, instead of simply saying "no, not so" -- however, elaborately -- present your own case and specific support for it.


 
Posted : 28/11/2006 6:58 am
(@devere)
Posts: 2756
Famed Member
Topic starter
 

Fun story. I like stories.


 
Posted : 28/11/2006 6:59 am
banjo_billy
(@banjo_billy)
Posts: 858
Noble Member
 

By the way, I am and have been since early childhood a follower of objective science. I am not religious in any conventional way. I just believe that the case for a spiritual realm has been sufficiently proven to my satisfaction that there is no reason not to believe it as a fact.

The Druids of Europe were the fearless warriors that they were because of their secret knowledge of the HereAfter. That they believed in immortality of the Soul and Reincarnation, gave them the courage to be unconcerned about Death. Only the organized teamwork of Roman armies were able to defeat the fierceness of the Celtic individual warriors.

If you are seeking evidence for immortality, there is no better instrument for doing this than your own Mind. Afterall, the telescopes and microscopes of science are merely tools and crutches for increasing the material perceptive abilities of the Human Mind. But in those realms of the spirit, where such scientific tools cannot reach, then the Mind, itself, is the only tool necessary for perceiving what science cannot perceive.

The Druidic Knowledge that the Celts called the Druidic Breath was a secret that was passsed along with the Aryan conquest of India and came to be called meditation and pranayama. And in China, this knowledge was passed along by the Aryan prince Boddidharma, and it is called qi gong (pronounced "chee goong") where it became the basis and power source of Shaolin KungFu. The Chinese to this day revere the memory of the round-eyed Boddhidarma whom they call TaMo.

When you can find your own qi (spirit) through the practice of the Druidic Breath (qi gong), then you will be able to see your own spirit as well as the spritual energy of others and be able to peer directly into the Immortal. As someone trained in science, this is a very simple way to verify spiritual truths because the path is clearly laid out.

Scoffers need not fear, the Ancient Path is there for you, too -- if you have the courage to walk it. No belief in anything is required; however a sincere desire to find what the Ancient Ones claimed to know is necessary. This knowledge can be achieved with quiet Mind and peaceful breath and in no other way.

Here is a free download link, if you are interested in discovering what the Druids once knew and what the Celtic warriors relished -- the qi energy that is known as "the holy spirit".

The following link is supposed to be secret for acupuncture students only. But I don't see why it should not be made available to the entire world since qi gong practice also cures disease.

To download the Qi Gong Lessons, go to the medical page of the website

< http://www.bamboo-delight.com/medical.htm>

and at the bottom is a statement reading:
A good antidote is chi gong

Click the "chi gong" link to download the file. Or Right Click the link and choose "Save Target As" to download the file.


A Nigger in the White House in MP3 audio
"The Sumerian Swindle"
Swindling the Goyim: The Basic Swindle

 
Posted : 28/11/2006 7:34 am
Todd in Ohio
(@todd-in-ohio)
Posts: 50
Estimable Member
 

What you are talking about with "group soul" is akin to what I have discussed with other WNs about "racial memory"...

I tend to agree that some form of ancestral memory is at work within us. Call it "instinct" if you like.

In a similar line of thought, an interesting look at the source of "knowledge" within human beings can be found in Plato's Meno in which he tells the story of Socrates proving that knowledge is but a "recollection" or an "unlocking" of what we already "know." According to this theory, we are born with all knowledge, it is intrinsic, and it simply needs to be "unlocked".

Socrates proves his theory by "teaching" a slave boy basic-geometry--not by teaching in the didactic sense, but simply through a series of questions.

http://etext.library.adelaide.edu.au/mirror/classics.mit.edu/Plato/meno.html

[If you click on the link you'll have to scroll about half-way down the page in order to get to this excerpt, but I suggest reading the entire story]

Excerpt:
Men. Yes, Socrates]


 
Posted : 28/11/2006 7:42 am
Briseis
(@briseis)
Posts: 227
Reputable Member
 

I haven't had many paranormal experiences. Just the three over a 60 year period. They were discrete -- clear beginnings and ends, each very different from the other. But all three were emotionally and intellectually powerful and point in the same direction.

As for Hengest's "reincarnation is of an alien culture" -- no, Hindi & Buddhism were both products of an Aryan, White culture, turned brown later inevitably, despite the caste system.

But, yes, other cultures can perceive truth -- and we should take truth as truth wherever we find it.

in some ways, its like when one becomes a WN, one has to let go to previously held beliefs about the way things work and learn to see things as they are, rather than what we're told they are.
Its like we are so used to self filtering our perceptions, many wouldnt know
one of these experiences when it came along, I blame the constant assault
on the senses that the younger generation has not had much of a respite from, they dont know from much besides day care , TV, video games, computer- they dont know how to "listen" without an object from which to "hear".. For them, without the external, tangible, it doesn't count.
.
Is this "real" or "just from a movie"? (below)
Remember the 80's "Question Authority" bumperstickers? Well Question Reality as well.

Think twice, those who think Devere and myself are kooks who missed our centrum tablets..and while you're at it, in general "think again".


http://silentconsort.com/http://silentconsort.wordpress.com/

 
Posted : 28/11/2006 1:19 pm
brutus
(@brutus)
Posts: 4435
Illustrious Member
 

RE: Devere

but perhaps I've studied this question more deeply than you, Brutus -- and had genuine confirmatory/initiating experiences you haven't had. Is this not possible?

Sure, anything is possible.

All of our conclusions are based upon our individual experiences, and when I said that Alan Watts was a crock of shit, I wasn’t implying that you were.

Zen Buddhism is loaded with superfluous and superstitious metaphor and stripped of all of the “other names” it’s all just vibrating atoms as I’ve said before. I don’t need a lot of words to say that; Vibrating atoms in space, given enough time - and that makes anything possible.

It all has to do with time. That incomprehensible variable is what makes it all possible. Is time really God? I don’t know. But I do know that our concept of time is flawed. I have pushed this idea to the point of understanding that there is no past or present that is separate from us........there is only an ever-present now.

As I see it, the truth is that we live immortal through our progeny and each generation’s reality is all that exists. Hitler is dead - but I know of Hitler, therefore he lives within me and I can help advance his and other good White men’s visions for the benefit of our White children. This is good enough for me and allows me to be part of this WN struggle.

I’ve never seen a UFO or a ghost or any other inexplicable supernatural phenomenon in my entire life. However, I’ve seen countless charlatans, soothsayers, theologians as well as men with pure hearts who could win Academy Awards for their performances in attesting to what they believe..........and I attribute their deep conviction to the fact that they must believe in what they say. From my own personal experience I would be unable to substantiate any of it on their behalf. However, this doesn’t mean that I wouldn’t be sympathetic to another’s point of view.


The ink of the learned is as precious as the blood of the martyr. For one drop of ink may make millions think.

 
Posted : 28/11/2006 6:40 pm
(@hengest)
Posts: 302
Honorable Member
 

Whatever happens after death; be it eternal life in the realm of spirit or reincarnation, we need to recognize that we are part of a unique continuation of the the holy White genome.
We must honour our ancestors and provide for our decendents.


 
Posted : 28/11/2006 8:26 pm
Briseis
(@briseis)
Posts: 227
Reputable Member
 

I tend to agree that some form of ancestral memory is at work within us. Call it "instinct" if you like.>>

right, I use that word as well, for lack of a better one ..."inherent knowledge"? nah its not really "knowledge" in the classical sense..its just when I think of the word "instinct" I associate that with animals and less developed creatures than humans, but we have been forced to "choose" as
the "white man", become so "civilized" we have lost instinct, and our 'edge'-
compared to the warriors, pioneers and ancients, we are such wussies but at least we can begin to "drop out" from the judeo-civilization- and perhaps see that not all that is "un-civilized" is bad. Many would think the groups I just described , early settlers, Spartans, Vikings were "un-civilized" but why? Because they fought? You can bet if they were invaded they sure as hell wouldnt say "Achilles, dont you think we should try and have a round table discussion with the African, and see if we cant work this out?"

In a similar line of thought, an interesting look at the source of "knowledge" within human beings can be found in Plato's Meno in which he tells the story of Socrates proving that knowledge is but a "recollection" or an "unlocking" of what we already "know." According to this theory, we are born with all knowledge, it is intrinsic, and it simply needs to be "unlocked".
>>

And this is why they do the exact opposite at college, they take what you already know, and try to twist and turn it, and being young, and wanting to believe in your elders and those in an authority position, and wanting to please them, get a good grade, succeed- there is all these incentives to
"go along" and next to no incentives to dissent. And we all know, Amerikwa is nothing if not about incentives, bonus miles, free gifts- the "whats in it for me?" generation. Where's my rewards card?

Socrates proves his theory by "teaching" a slave boy basic-geometry--not by teaching in the didactic sense, but simply through a series of questions.>>

Yes the old ideal of teaching was you dont just say "believe this, cause I say so", you show the kid *how* to learn, and by example it shows him how to look at things to figure stuff out by himself in other situations, the boy thus coming to his own conclusions rather than referring back to what someone else said .
The old classical learning, very dangerous in the Kwa. That is why we cant "just tell people" about what is wrong and who is to blame, we have to ask them questions, sort of the way a witness is cross examined, but not do it in a hostile way- the person retains their own dignity and is not left feeling foolish and defeated- the way a Jew attorney does it.
but you see how you cite Socrates, the way he does it, he is what they call in court "leading the witness".. This is a very good method of getting someone there, even if you only get them partway there, sometimes they are smart enough , that is all it takes, they will do the rest on their own.(look it up, go on the net) start noticing names, who is in positions of power)..


http://silentconsort.com/http://silentconsort.wordpress.com/

 
Posted : 29/11/2006 12:52 am
Chain
(@chain)
Posts: 2362
Famed Member
 

Religion which posits rejoining that from which you cannot, by definition, be separated from is fantasy. It is essentially ontological gamesmanship. Yes, we will expire. Therein lies the pain-- having to come face to face with the inevitability of our passing out of this sensual realm. But while we are here, we are consciously part and parcel of the realm. If we were inculcated with the necessary "shooting realities" of our situation instead of playtime ontological fantasies, we'd be enjoying much better and healthier existences as Whites. Yes, Jeebo love you; the bibliography be tellin' you so. The only "promised fantasy" I want to see is violent White Nationalist literature all over the place.


 
Posted : 29/11/2006 1:43 am
aherne
(@aherne)
Posts: 442
Honorable Member
 

No offense please, but your post reminds me of Point Counterpoint by Huxley, where one of the lead characters, a leading biologist of his age (in fact the very father of Biology, the character being modelled on Huxley's father), receives a phone by a paraplegic fellow lord who tells him impatiently "after rigurous research, he found the proof for God's existence".

POOR CRIPPLE, HE THOUGHT, HE'S BECOMING INCREASINGLY SENILE!

(By the way, I'll take this occasion and point out the obvious that ridiculous bullshit, in general, must not preoccupy our precious Aryan minds! I would thus argue the composition of arthropods' exoskeleton deserves recycling the irresponsibly spent cellulose on all Bibles and kindred esoteric garbage that even my Aryan children won't believe.)


"Any man who is not attacked in the Jewish newspapers, not slandered and vilified, is no decent German and no true National Socialist." - Adolf Hitler

 
Posted : 29/11/2006 2:38 am
aherne
(@aherne)
Posts: 442
Honorable Member
 

The totality of matter and energy that resulted from an initial Big Bang, when an infinitely dense and infinitely small object lost its structural balance and gave rise to the known Universe.

Elemental matter is a minor fraction of Universe's composition (5%). The prevalent elements are "dark matter" (25%) and "dark energy" (70%). They are called "dark" because their existence is proven by science, yet they are invisible (due to their exceedingly small mass and density). Dark energy, negative energy from Big Bang, fills all space and commands Universe's accelerated expansion. Its exact nature remains a speculation. Dark matter's existence is known by its enormous gravitational efect.


"Any man who is not attacked in the Jewish newspapers, not slandered and vilified, is no decent German and no true National Socialist." - Adolf Hitler

 
Posted : 29/11/2006 3:20 am
(@devere)
Posts: 2756
Famed Member
Topic starter
 

The totality of matter and energy that resulted from an initial Big Bang, when an infinitely dense and infinitely small object lost its structural balance and gave rise to the known Universe.

Elemental matter is a minor fraction of Universe's composition (5%). The prevalent elements are "dark matter" (25%) and "dark energy" (70%). They are called "dark" because their existence is proven by science, yet they are invisible (due to their exceedingly small mass and density). Dark energy, negative energy from Big Bang, fills all space and commands Universe's accelerated expansion. Its exact nature remains a speculation. Dark matter's existence is known by its enormous gravitational efect.

Whoops, forgot about the little "matter" of energy in my definition. Excellent definition, Aherne.


 
Posted : 29/11/2006 12:13 pm
Page 3 / 4
Share: