[GTK Radio - Debate - "Is It Too Late to Save White America?" - Jared Taylor & Greg Johnson - Jun 9, 2024 - Transcript]

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[In this livestream episode Frodi Midjord host a debate/discussion with Jared Taylor and Greg Johnson on "Is it too late to save White America?"

Key points:

1. Host introduces Jared Taylor and Greg Johnson who will discuss if it's too late to save white America.

2. Jared argues white demographic decline from 90% to minority status shows America can't be home for whites given immigration and birth rates.

3. Greg disagrees America is unsalvageable but agrees it will be very difficult.

4. Greg questions if Jared's views have changed over time, becoming less optimistic.

5. Jared acknowledges he's less optimistic about fully saving America but politics can still slow declines.

6. They discuss how their ideas have become more mainstream in recent years.

7. Greg argues they should keep trying to change minds rather than abandon hope.

8. Jared agrees their argument for legitimate white interests remains important to spread.

9. They debate if restoring 1950s White supermajority is realistic given current demographics.

10. Both agree advancing their views remains vital for White survival even if full restoration unlikely.

11. Jared says Europeans face similar issues maintaining White majorities as Americans.

12. Greg responds Europe more hopeful since non-White immigration more recent and reversible.

13. They discuss how small immigrant numbers concern Europeans more than Americans.

14. Jared notes 2011 data showed minorities majority of under age one Americans.

15. They consider younger generations in diverse America struggling to envision all-White society.

16. Greg argues diversity often increases rebellion against it.

17. Jared adds racially conscious families want children for the right reasons today.

18. Audience member asks about African population growth impact on Europe.

19. Jared and Greg say Europeans have same right to homelands as Americans.

20. Greg notes Eastern Europe more sensible on these issues.

21. They take audience questions including on incentives for higher White birth rates.

22. Greg proposes policies could influence White fertility rates.

23. Jared stresses need for Whites to have racial identity and continuity.

24. They agree Republican party unlikely to truly represent White interests.

25. Greg suggests White advocacy group to pressure politicians like ADL.

26. Jared concerned about transgender issues as societal rot.

27. Greg agrees transgender medical procedures should be banned for children.

28. Jared says homosexuality should remain legal but not celebrated.

29. They discuss roles of Tucker Carlson, Charlie Kirk and Matt Walsh.

30. Greg says replacing Christianity with ethnocentrism and eugenics may not be realistic.

31. They discuss America's declining global influence and failures observed by Europeans.

32. After Jared leaves, Greg takes more audience questions.

33. Questions include boosting White birth rates.

34. And potential for economic downturns to reverse immigration.

35. Also the role of billionaires concerned about Israel.

36. Greg continues discussion with audience.

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[TRANSCRIPT - Words: 20808 - 2:17:28 mins]

Jared Taylor: With regard to something that Greg Johnson said earlier about our moral squeamishness. I think that is a tremendous defect of White people. We are morally squeamish. For practically every other race all you need to do is tell them:

"Well, this is in your interest."

And without any kind of mental deliberation, they'll say:

"Great, we want it!"

The idea that it might be not in someone else's interest, the idea that it might hurt them, that doesn't seem to hold them back at all, especially in the case of blacks. If it's good for them, just to heck with everybody else! And not a shred of a thought, otherwise.

We are not that way. We are just not that way. And that has held us back in many important ways. And to me, this moral squeamishness will come into play the more you are telling White people:

"Look, in order to get what we deserve and what we need, you've got to take these millions of people and kick them out of the country, or persuade them to get out of the country!"

My suspicion is that aside from all the practicalities, the moral squeamishness problem would be in trying to re-establish an entirely White United States, rather than in, I think, what sounds like a more fair minded way, saying:

"Okay, we made a mistake, but you're here. At least you're a citizen. Stripping people of citizenship, this sort of thing sounds pretty grim."

And saying:

"Okay, we're going to make a fair division of the spoils the way things are, of course, the illegals have got to go."

I think that is going to be less of a problem for our morally squeamish brothers and sisters than saying:

"Okay, we're going to take the whole thing back!"

That's just one point I wish to make.

Frodi Midjord: Very good. Thank you for that. Okay, I want to read some questions from the audience, and then I'll get back to letting you finish the debate by asking each other questions or adding whatever you want to add. But let's take some questions from the audience. Open Borders for Israel sends $5. He says:

"I'm from Australia, so we'll miss this. But it's not just the US that is in trouble. According to demographics projections, there will be 4.5."

I think he means billion:

"Africans, by 2100, with Nigeria alone having more people than the entire EU by 2060. 75% of young Africans want to go to Europe. What do you think Europe's future is?"

So I'd let both of you answer this. Do you have any thoughts about comparing America with Europe? Is it more difficult in one place or the other?

Jared Taylor: After you.

Frodi Midjord: Let's start with you.

Jared Taylor: Oh, me again? [chuckling] All right. Well, I think our problems are exactly the same. It is mustering the will to do what every other race would do without compunction. And it's mustering the will to say:

"Okay, sorry, this is for us! Our ancestors built it for us, and you can't come!"

And this is something that Whites, even if they know in their bones that they should be able to say this, are unable to say it.

And I think you find that across the White world, only a few very small Eastern European countries seem to have that in them. So western Europe faces exactly the same problem that we do.

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Frodi Midjord: Greg, do you want to comment on this?

Greg Johnson: I do think Europe is more hopeful, for two reasons. One, yes, Eastern Europe is a bit more sensible than western Europe. And two, the race replacement immigration into Europe is far more recent than what's happened in America. And therefore, it's far more conceivable that it can simply be reversed in its entirety.

And I think people would have far fewer moral qualms about reversing it in its entirety. It's going to be a tough battle, even in Europe, but it is more conceivable that Europe could be restored to a Europe of different homelands for European peoples. And the recent interlopers will simply go back to where they came from.

Jared Taylor: I agree. The rot has not gone as far in Europe. Well, I suppose, as Greg Johnson suggested, there is Zimbabwe and there's South Africa. But really, the United States is the bellwether ...

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