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Just wondering as to how do White Nationalists actually expect to win in America?

I personally think its far too late to save USA (also too late for UK).

You cannot vote your way to power for a start and WN groups in USA are far too dispersed to be a threat to ZOG.

How you going to do it?


 
Posted : 04/07/2004 11:53 am
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I hate to vote (NO) and not give a good reasoned response. Maybe more, later.

The quick answer is this: The USA is today nothing more than the thumb-breaking enforcer of Israel. This could only change if normal, white folks, like the young engineers I work with woke up. Sadly that is impossible.

The fellows I work with are IQ-bright, good, even excellent engineers. They spring from clean wholesome families in states like Wyoming and Nebraska. But, outside their technical expertise, they are illiterate. They are consistently passive, docile, and obedient.

The only constant, agreed upon fact in American culture is that ‘racism’ is the worst crime imaginable. Lack of gaudy, sentimental patriotism is the second worst crime.

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Posted : 04/07/2004 12:32 pm
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Just wondering as to how do White Nationalists actually expect to win in America?

I personally think its far too late to save USA (also too late for UK).

You cannot vote your way to power for a start and WN groups in USA are far too dispersed to be a threat to ZOG.

How you going to do it?

The only thing that can beat ZOG is ZOG.


 
Posted : 04/07/2004 1:21 pm
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Can WN beat ZOG in America?

It depends on what you define as victory. Whatever the definition, I think it's theoretically possible to win the war against multiculturalism (I never use the term "Zog" - it sounds too crackpot to me). To get a good idea of what might win the war in our favor, see a movie called "True Lies" (Arnold Schwarzenegger-1994) In the movie, the "bad guys" acquire 4 nukes from the old Soviet arsenal, and then announce to America their intentions to detonate them in key cities if their wishes are not carried out. As expected, they are defeated in the end. But the point is this: it is theoretically possible for pro-whites to gain control of - ideally - ten small nukes. With them concealed in anonymous vehicles or secreted away in "safe houses", ten key US cities could be targeted for destruction if the US government does not immediately accede to the dismantlement of multicultural policies and then proceed with the immediate removal of America's minority populations from within our borders. Unfortunately, the US government would call our bluff, and it would then be necessary to detonate at least one of the nukes - possibly even two. After that, I think you'd see busses and train cars getting stuffed with Mexicans pronto. So there's the answer: acquistion of ten small nukes by pro-white forces just might break the iron grip of the multiculturalists in America. Secretely, I believe that's the biggest unspoken fear of our government, that this kind of scenario is possible. That's why they're so frantic to snuff out any further nuclear programs around the world, from North Korea to Iran. They know that nuclear blackmail is their Achilles heel, and that's true whether it comes from "Muslim terrorists" or America's pro-white patriots.

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Posted : 04/07/2004 1:49 pm
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It depends on what you define as victory. Whatever the definition, I think it's theoretically possible to win the war against multiculturalism (I never use the term "Zog" - it sounds too crackpot to me). To get a good idea of what might win the war in our favor, see a movie called "True Lies" (Arnold Schwarzenegger-1994) In the movie, the "bad guys" acquire 4 nukes from the old Soviet arsenal, and then announce to America their intentions to detonate them in key cities if their wishes are not carried out. As expected, they are defeated in the end. But the point is this: it is theoretically possible for pro-whites to gain control of - ideally - ten small nukes. With them concealed in anonymous vehicles or secreted away in "safe houses", ten key US cities could be targeted for destruction if the US government does not immediately accede to the dismantlement of multicultural policies and then proceed with the immediate removal of America's minority populations from within our borders. Unfortunately, the US government would call our bluff, and it would then be necessary to detonate at least one of the nukes - possibly even two. After that, I think you'd see busses and train cars getting stuffed with Mexicans pronto. So there's the answer: acquistion of ten small nukes by pro-white forces just might break the iron grip of the multiculturalists in America. Secretely, I believe that's the biggest unspoken fear of our government, that this kind of scenario is possible. That's why they're so frantic to snuff out any further nuclear programs around the world, from North Korea to Iran. They know that nuclear blackmail is their Achilles heel, and that's true whether it comes from "Muslim terrorists" or America's pro-white patriots.

NOTICE TO LAW ENFORCEMENT: THIS COMMENTARY IS STRICTLY HYPOTHETICAL AND REFLECTS NO ACTUAL INTENT BY ANYONE TO CARRY IT OUT.

Well that started off good but went downhill. Nukes are not the answer because it is a dirty bird that soils his own nest. What would be the point of saving America only to make it uninhabitable?

We can take individual communities back one at a time. Everyone is looking for an easy solution that will take place over night. This didn’t happen over night and it is not going to be cured over night. If victory does occur it will probably not happen in my lifetime (within 50 years).

What we do now is for the next generation or the generation after that.

The downfall began in 1930 or there about and has taken over 70 years to degenerate into it’s current state, so if you are expecting an easy overnight cure go back to sleep and enjoy your dream.

I enjoyed what you had to say about not using ZOG it makes sense.


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Posted : 04/07/2004 2:44 pm
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That was a great point Augustus. You should elaborate.

When will the terrorist and theorist figure out that money is worth exponentially more as a tool for change than a nuke any day of the week?

Didn't that jew banker say that he doesn't care who controls the military in any given country as long as he controls the money supply? Forgot his name. Weishaupt maybe.

If we take the control of the cash and can make more for ourselves individually we can buy up the news media. That is the key. News media owned by whites... not jews.

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Posted : 04/07/2004 3:36 pm
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The only way to destroy the ZOG is to induce political instability. It is not that hard to do. You just need an exodus of foreign money. The economy of the JEWSA is based on borrowed foreign money and investment.

Political instability is induced by targeting the ZOG head, it's media, and it's key industries. The money flees, the economy collapses and the balkanization (and the real fun) begins. All it takes is a determined, dedicated core of Patriots to bring this about.


 
Posted : 04/07/2004 3:42 pm
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If we take the control of the cash and can make more for ourselves individually we can buy up the news media. That is the key. News media owned by whites... not jews.

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Don't be so bloody stupid!!

We will NEVER gain control of media until after a white revolution.


 
Posted : 04/07/2004 4:51 pm
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Put the crack pipe down.

There will never be a revolution as long as the jews have the TV and Bill Oreilly to tell everyone to be happy w/ the mexicunts.

Revolutions are spawned because of everyone knowing something. The TV makes everyone think that nothing is wrong and if it is the military will fix it.


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Posted : 04/07/2004 5:25 pm
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I personally think its far too late to save USA (also too late for UK).

Then why are you a WN?

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Posted : 04/07/2004 6:30 pm
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Revolution will happen when things get bad enough. America will eventually be broken into four or five separate nations. I think it is inevitable. It probably won't happen in my lifetime, unless something is done to speed it up (nuclear devastation? economic depression? race war?)

We just have to make sure one emerging nation is an exclusively white one.


 
Posted : 04/07/2004 6:47 pm
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Nukes are not the answer because it is a dirty bird that soils his own nest. What would be the point of saving America only to make it uninhabitable?

Though I respect your point, please remember that two nuclear bombs were dropped on Japan, destroying Hiroshima and Nagasaki. This use of nuclear weapons did not make Japan "uninhabitable" so a similar detonation of two nukes within two US cities would not make America uninhabitable either. True, some nuclear fallout would result, and some peripheral casualties would come about as "collateral damage", but wiping out, say, Detroit and New York would not have any cataclysmic effect on the rest of America.

Remember, just because white patriots have positioned 10 nukes in 10 US cities does not mean ALL of them would be detonated. One or two detonations would be sufficient to convince our multiculturalist leaders that we mean business. In addition to that, we would also state that any attempt to locate, capture, or disarm even one of our nukes would result in the immediate detonation of a third nuke. Yes, this is "terrorism", and yes, it would result in the deaths of millions, but if whites themselves are being driven towards extinction itself, then I say that it's justified, especially when we consider the alternative methods of achieving victory, either through the ballot box or through a citizen revolt in the streets.


 
Posted : 04/07/2004 6:49 pm
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You really believe those stories?

No shit dude. Tim McVeigh didn't do it all. A few ATF agents had explosives inside. And 911 was a Mossad op.


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A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.

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Posted : 04/07/2004 7:19 pm
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No shit dude. Tim McVeigh didn't do it all. A few ATF agents had explosives inside. And 911 was a Mossad op.

Todd! You listen to Alex Jones too?! :eek: Just messing with ya. I don't believe 911 was a Mossad op, just that they knew about it from start to finish, and did nothing.

Really though, this is definitely true:

We don't need the proverbial "WMD'S", and we don't need a "majority".


 
Posted : 04/07/2004 7:39 pm
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It was a Mossad op cuz the FBI caught 200 Israeli spies in Miami FL 2 weeks after 911. All had ties to the hijackers. They supplied apartments and instrution for learning to fly aircraft. Pay attention.

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com

Fuck Alex Jones.


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A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.

R.I.P. Yankee Jim

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Posted : 04/07/2004 7:54 pm
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