Excellent post

I need to return with something later but for now I must add that the universal pagan symbol (the Swastika/sunwheel/Celtic Cross, ect) has been demonised. It's happened deliberately not just because of what repression the jews are doing to Aryans but because the strength of the swastika, the power of the image sends a wave of awe, wonder and beauty. Some people are struck by the swastika in many ways, other people are scared of it. The swastika has existed for thousands of years in various pagan cultures. There was a revival of it last century. ZOG merely found a reason to ban it, by using a lie and creating a myth surrownding events in WW2. They banned it because its a powerful Aryan sign and they banned it because it's also a pagan sign. ZOG fears the pagan Aryan far more than anything.
That is just one example but will come up with more ideas later.

the Jews have managed to survive and maintain their racial distinctiveness over 2,000 years of dispersal from their supposed homeland?

This simply is not true.

Jews are not a race, they are a cultural religion.

Jews are the most mognrelize people on earth.

Its no wonder they think falsely that their genetic diversity is cause for their strength, rather than compound interest.

This simply is not true.

Jews are not a race, they are a cultural religion.

Jews are the most mognrelize people on earth.

Its no wonder they think falsely that their genetic diversity is cause for their strength, rather than compound interest.

Some Jews are mongrelised,some are not racial Jews at all but some are pure Jews and whatever you wish to call them they have held together as a cultural/biological/religious entity for over 2,000 years of diaspora.
Now I think that is worth considering as a means for own own racial survival.

Some Jews are mongrelised,some are not racial Jews at all but some are pure Jews and whatever you wish to call them they have held together as a cultural/biological/religious entity for over 2,000 years of diaspora.

Hmmm. You buy into the diaspora baloney.

Catch this, the jews are an ancient Mediterranean temple cult, with cult centers all around the Mediterranean hundreds of years before Christ's birth. Cyprus, Alexandria or even Rome may have been the origin of the jew cult. There were 50 or more jew cult temples in Rome itself.

None of the ancient historians mention the jews as a "people" either. That lie starts with the jew cult historian Flavius Josephus in the 1st century after Christ's killing.

Edward Gibbon alludes to, speaks of a power struggle between the Romans and the jews for control of the eastern Mediterranean during the first century after Christ. According to Gibbon the jews revolted and challenged the Romans for control of Egypt and on Cyprus besides in Syria/Palestine.

Hmmm. You buy into the diaspora baloney.

Catch this, the jews are an ancient Mediterranean temple cult, with cult centers all around the Mediterranean hundreds of years before Christ's birth. Cyprus, Alexandria or even Rome may have been the origin of the jew cult. There were 50 or more jew cult temples in Rome itself.

None of the ancient historians mention the jews as a "people" either. That lie starts with the jew cult historian Flavius Josephus in the 1st century after Christ's killing.

Edward Gibbon alludes to, speaks of a power struggle between the Romans and the jews for control of the eastern Mediterranean during the first century after Christ. According to Gibbon the jews revolted and challenged the Romans for control of Egypt and on Cyprus besides in Syria/Palestine.

I am familiar with the concept that the Jews never actually lived in Palestine and are not actually who they say they are but that really does not matter.It is the myth of the diaspora that I am interested in.
Whether it was more than myth is neither here nor there.The point is that it can be a possible blue print for our survival as a race.The fact is that they have existed at the very least as a cultural entity for 2,000 years.
Are there not lessons there that can be learned and strategies that can be adopted?

I am familiar with the concept that the Jews never actually lived in Palestine and are not actually who they say they are but that really does not matter.It is the myth of the diaspora that I am interested in.
Whether it was more than myth is neither here nor there.The point is that it can be a possible blue print for our survival as a race.The fact is that they have existed at the very least as a cultural entity for 2,000 years.
Are there not lessons there that can be learned and strategies that can be adopted?

A survival strategy based on lies, exaggeration, and deceit?

No people in the world has been as decent and open to the jews as White Christian Americans---and---the jews by their words and deeds have demonstrated they hate us worst of all.

A survival strategy based on lies, exaggeration, and deceit?

No people in the world has been as decent and open to the jews as White Christian Americans---and---the jews by their words and deeds have demonstrated they hate us worst of all.

A survival strategy that takes into account the fact that in the future we may not have a territorial imperative.We need to think creatively how we will survive.

One of the most important aspects of ethnic and national identity is a homeland, a territorial imperative in which a people can survive,develop and grow.

Homelands will be overthrown if there is non-whites anywhere in the world. That is a very temporary solution at best.

To oust the invader we need a political solution either by the ballot box or by armed revolution.

Governments are also overthrown easily as history proves. Powerful governments have come and gone and they will continue to do so. Again with the temporary solution.

My suggestion is that we look at how the Jew has managed to survive without a territorial imperative of his own for 2,000 years.

Yes use the Jews for a model that figures you would come up with something like that.

First of all he has a religion which acts as a bond,a glue for his people, a religion of the blood.This religion of the blood is linked directly to the myth of his own origins and by its nature and laws excludes non-Jews.
As a prerequisite we need to detach ourselves as a race from this religion and adopt a religion of the blood

So what you are saying is people like Linder cannot be racist because he is not religious? I was racist before I was religious. Religion is a bond but there cannot ever be a national religion because there are to many factions in each religions groups and to many atheists that will never go along with any kind of religion.

We need to have a myth,a myth of our common origins that we can all identify with,that also identifies with an original homeland,even if that homeland becomes lost.

A myth is defined as a fable, fairytale or a false hood. Basically you are truly using the Jews as an example because all of their power is created on lies. As Aryans our past, present and future needs to be created on truth. Truth is the foundation of the Aryan race without it we are no better than the Jews.

The Jews are masters of the lie (you would know this if you were a Christian) and there is no Aryan that can out lie a Jew. Jews have been lying for thousands of years and lies are not in the Aryan genetic makeup. So you can’t beat a Jew at their own game. The only way to defeat the Jew is to expose their lies by irrefutable truths. This is the Aryan way, you can do things the Jewish way if you desire that is your prerogative.

Homelands will be overthrown if there is non-whites anywhere in the world. That is a very temporary solution at best.

I am unclear about what you are saying is a "temporary solution".Having a homeland is a temporary solution??

Governments are also overthrown easily as history proves. Powerful governments have come and gone and they will continue to do so. Again with the temporary solution.

I was not suggesting the overthrowal of a government,merely pointing this out as an already considered strategy.But what is "temporary" about this anyway?

Yes use the Jews for a model that figures you would come up with something like that.

We would be stupid in the extreme not to consider any and every potential solution,including the strategies of our enemies as they seem to be pretty suceccessful at what they are doing.

So what you are saying is people like Linder cannot be racist because he is not religious? I was racist before I was religious. Religion is a bond but there cannot ever be a national religion because there are to many factions in each religions groups and to many atheists that will never go along with any kind of religion.

Once again you are putting words in my mouth and not reading properly what I am saying.I am merely pointing out that one of the success factors of the Jew is that he has a strong racial religion,a religion of the blood.Therefore a lack of such a religion should be considered a weakness for us.We should simply start to examine the non-Aryan religions that some of us are fearfully or sentimentally still clinging onto such as xtianity.The Jews are not stupid:they realise that conversion to xtianity for their people would mean racial suicide.They created xtianity as a weapon to enfeeble us.

A myth is defined as a fable, fairytale or a false hood. Basically you are truly using the Jews as an example because all of their power is created on lies. As Aryans our past, present and future needs to be created on truth. Truth is the foundation of the Aryan race without it we are no better than the Jews.

You have obviously not studied myth and its whole meaning as I have.I refer you to a quote from Julius Evola`s in "The Mystery of the Grail","That which never happened is eternally true" which is attributed to Julian the Apostate.Myth is a higher reality of truth.It does not make it any less true than that which happens in this space-time continuum.Every tribe,nation,Volk and race has its own myth of origins,so does the Aryan race.These myths of our origins need to be communicated to our people and invoked in the Collective Racial Unconscious.You talk about truth yet xtianity is built on a massive lie and fraud.A Jewish one at that.

The Jews are masters of the lie (you would know this if you were a Christian) and there is no Aryan that can out lie a Jew. Jews have been lying for thousands of years and lies are not in the Aryan genetic makeup. So you can’t beat a Jew at their own game. The only way to defeat the Jew is to expose their lies by irrefutable truths. This is the Aryan way, you can do things the Jewish way if you desire that is your prerogative.

Yes I know that they are the masters of the lie and this is why I left xtianity and heeded the call of the blood.I could no longer accept the dichotomy and contradiction of being both a xtian and a racialist.You are still clinging to the Jewish lie of a Jewish messiah.Aryan man requires no such "messiah",certainly not a Jewish one.

Interesting thread, but premature.

While 95% of White people go around believing that everything is hunky-dory, we aren't going to get anywhere. Any sort of ideological or armed uprising will be met with a huge contingent of brainwashed white people defending the ZOG, both with arms and in their hearts and minds.

Be patient, friends, there is plenty to do now to prepare for the time when people will be ready to listen to us. In some places such as the South and the West, there are people who are ready to listen, and those should be directed into a peaceful programme of "Boycott Everything" the goal of which is two fold -- strangle ZOG economically while getting financially better off for those who agree with us.

There's some skinheads here in CT and I am trying to convince them to come and take the local farm and plant jobs that usually go to mexicans. They aren't bad jobs, and the pay is OK. It sure as hell beats running a cash register or flipping burgers, and very often you learn valuable skills. They could live on a local campground, and decrease local Latino employment. If they are reliable and hard working, the local farmers and business owners will prefer them.

Unattached Whites who don't have a mortgage could be living like the Manson family, on campgrounds, taking jobs from Mexicans, saving money, and learning to live by their wits, instead of living in their parents' basement. Until such time that they do this, I will always tell them, "You aren't trying hard enough."

As for Whites who aren't racially aware, here's an enlightening tale. I know someone who works in social services, and she tells me that people are always whining that they can't pay child support because "I won't be able to pay my cable bill."

Such people are not in a saveable condition. As Dr. Pierce used to say, they are in need of an oak table leg being applied to the side of their head, figuratively speaking, of course.

However, when the time is right, I like the "religion of the blood" idea. I am certainly ready to teach this to people, when they are ready to hear it. Right now, in the workplace and around town, I mostly see suburban whiggers who are "men" only in the strictly biological sense.

Rob

Interesting thread, but premature.

While 95% of White people go around believing that everything is hunky-dory, we aren't going to get anywhere. Any sort of ideological or armed uprising will be met with a huge contingent of brainwashed white people defending the ZOG, both with arms and in their hearts and minds.

Be patient, friends, there is plenty to do now to prepare for the time when people will be ready to listen to us. In some places such as the South and the West, there are people who are ready to listen, and those should be directed into a peaceful programme of "Boycott Everything" the goal of which is two fold -- strangle ZOG economically while getting financially better off for those who agree with us.

There's some skinheads here in CT and I am trying to convince them to come and take the local farm and plant jobs that usually go to mexicans. They aren't bad jobs, and the pay is OK. It sure as hell beats running a cash register or flipping burgers, and very often you learn valuable skills. They could live on a local campground, and decrease local Latino employment. If they are reliable and hard working, the local farmers and business owners will prefer them.

Unattached Whites who don't have a mortgage could be living like the Manson family, on campgrounds, taking jobs from Mexicans, saving money, and learning to live by their wits, instead of living in their parents' basement. Until such time that they do this, I will always tell them, "You aren't trying hard enough."

As for Whites who aren't racially aware, here's an enlightening tale. I know someone who works in social services, and she tells me that people are always whining that they can't pay child support because "I won't be able to pay my cable bill."

Such people are not in a saveable condition. As Dr. Pierce used to say, they are in need of an oak table leg being applied to the side of their head, figuratively speaking, of course.

However, when the time is right, I like the "religion of the blood" idea. I am certainly ready to teach this to people, when they are ready to hear it. Right now, in the workplace and around town, I mostly see suburban whiggers who are "men" only in the strictly biological sense.

Rob

I read your remarks with interest.
"Premature"? Our race is at the 12th hour:we are now in survival mode.
We need a Weltanschauung that can be grasped by the remnant that are racially aware.
We need to create a "diaspora" mentality in order that we survive as a biological and cultural entity.The call of the religion of the blood is now....right now.

I am unclear about what you are saying is a "temporary solution".Having a homeland is a temporary solution??

As long as non-whites exist on other lands a white homeland is jeopardy thus being a temporary solution.

Yes I know that they are the masters of the lie and this is why I left xtianity and heeded the call of the blood.I could no longer accept the dichotomy and contradiction of being both a xtian and a racialist.You are still clinging to the Jewish lie of a Jewish messiah.Aryan man requires no such "messiah",certainly not a Jewish one.

Didn't you say you left because your Christian friends insulted you and hurt your feelings. Yet another lie.

http://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=16679

I am putting you on Ignore.

Said before this reply. I thought the Jews was the master of the lie but I can't get the truth out of you if I tried. I don’t see how all these people having me on ignore can reply to my posts, I thought they were not supposed to show up.

As long as non-whites exist on other lands a white homeland is jeopardy thus being a temporary solution.

Let me be clear about this.You are proposing genocide of people who are different to you? Is that correct?

Didn't you say you left because your Christian friends insulted you and hurt your feelings. Yet another lie.

No! Again it is you that are the liar.Not content with peddling your Jewish lies from a pulpit you do it here as well.There is something desperately sick about a man that can only communicate from a pulpit,looking down on others.

http://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=16679

Said before this reply. I thought the Jews was the master of the lie but I can't get the truth out of you if I tried. I don’t see how all these people having me on ignore can reply to my posts, I thought they were not supposed to show up.

To be honest I have been so busy I forgot.Unlike you I have a job.

Thought provoking thread. Thank you Aryan Lord.

Two ideas jump out at me.

#1. The jews have been a two thousand year success story, therefore we should consider the mythology of their success and emulate where applicable.

#2. Why should we copy a rat’s strategy?

Maybe both sides have some merit and should be explored more deeply.

I’m with you on the blood religion concept.

Please clear this up for me, You said:

Let me be clear about this. You are proposing genocide of people who are different to you? Is that correct?

Do you say this because you feel genocide is a bad thing?

Isn’t the repugnance for genocide ultimately rooted in jewish dogma?

“Abhorring genocide as unthinkable“........Isn’t this like letting our enemy disarm us of that potential weapon that just might be the ultimate solution? Why take the concept of genocide off the table? Maybe we should take a hard look at those who would be offended by anyone advocating genocide.

The history books tell us that early White tribes didn’t have a problem with the total annihilation of a rival tribe. Could this fact be the reason why we’re here today?