Those who report "suspicious activity" will fall under the "collaborating with ZOG" category.

The reality is that the collaborators are already inside and will always be inside. Successful insurgencies, like those in Iraq, have members who are all part of an extended family or are members of an insular tribal/religious group. No one joins such a group - you are either born into it or you are not. "White racialist" groups are usually composed of total strangers, at least 25% of whom are government agents and 25% are ex-cons, homosexuals and drug addicts who will turn states evidence for a guarantee of immunity or reduced sentence. Ask David Lane if you don't believe me. Thats why the idea of the "lone wolf" has gained so much credence in WN circles - unless you have known someone your entire life, it is not possible to really trust them.

Come now brothers, let's not toss the jewish accusation at our Fissle. He just suffers from the same thing most of us do at one time another; hopelessness. We have to try and overcome this.

I will agree with fissle on one thing: There won't be any large scale revolution on the issue of race alone. There has to be other issues to get it fired up and there are plenty.

To make a statement about Viet Nam in one line other than to state that the U.S. had no strategic need to be there at all in a land War that is, as the U.S. should never have been there in such a capacity, tells me something about you.

Wrong.

Even though it was a waste as in LBJ and others in the Capital hampered it's efforts, Communist China was a big problem for US interest abroad. They were the real terrorists. Hitler was fighting communism because he knew there was a dominoe effect. The US didn't realize this until after WW2 and by the time Korea was over Vietnam was the last effort to stop it until it spread further south. That war was a necessary one but it was hampered by LBJ, Mcnamara, Rusk and other commie forces in the UN as well.

If commie China had been nuked like Japan had we never would have NAFTA and GATT which has destroyed the US dollar and the American economy. The Vietnam war could've been over with if the ground war was limited to defense only and the offensive war was that of "shock and awe."

Sorry Subrosa but I gotta answer the critics.

As far as ZOG... I think Jones is right on about the NWO but I don't think 95% of IRS agents would be assainated before there were massive tax revolts due to a collapsing economy. In response ZOG will jail a few but the numbers would be too massive to continue. Tax revolts won't be a race issue but it will hamper the govt's manpower... so will desertion of US forces in the military.

I've said in the past that if any revolution is successful it will come out of the military staging a coup. Militias will help defend but won't be an element unless the govt takes major, in-your-face, actions against americans... like gun confiscation.

I will agree with fissle on one thing: There won't be any large scale revolution on the issue of race alone. There has to be other issues to get it fired up and there are plenty.

Right. And I think there won't be ANY revolutions at all, unless there is massive unemployment/financial disaster/interruption of the "American" i.e. fat, lazy lifestyle. Which I think is coming sooner than you might expect.

Keep your powder dry. :box:

Originally Posted by Subrosa
At the local level, there will be "anti-terrorist" committees in every town and village.

Yes, and these committees will be in charge of "gun turn ins." Obviously, when the SHTF, one of ZOG's first responses will be to ask all citizens to voluntarily turn in their guns. It will be mass propagandized as the "patriotic" thing to do. After that, turning in your neighbors who kept their guns will become the patriotic thing to do.

The reality is that the collaborators are already inside and will always be inside. Successful insurgencies, like those in Iraq, have members who are all part of an extended family or are members of an insular tribal/religious group. No one joins such a group - you are either born into it or you are not. "White racialist" groups are usually composed of total strangers, at least 25% of whom are government agents and 25% are ex-cons, homosexuals and drug addicts who will turn states evidence for a guarantee of immunity or reduced sentence. Ask David Lane if you don't believe me. Thats why the idea of the "lone wolf" has gained so much credence in WN circles - unless you have known someone your entire life, it is not possible to really trust them.

Yup. That's why we'll never see an Iraqi style insurrection in the USA. American Whites have lost their tribal instincts.

Some knowledge of the history of Viet Nam, along with the French Government's history there would be enlightening for some. Dien Bin Fu, and that is an interesting part of that history too, I meet a veteran of that 25 years ago.

David Hackworth did a great job as a field commander for 6 years in Viet Nam. No where could I read, nor had I ever heard him say once that we should have been there. David Hackworth was considered the finest combat commander to ever have served in Viet Nam.

I was not stationed there, but was in the service then, and I listened to many officer's opinions of our involvement back then closely. My brother inlaw was in the 101st 1967-68 for 15 months. He like Thomas W. Chittum and most veteran's I know that it was a waste like WW1 WW2, and the Korean war of 1950-52 was set in motion to keep Douglas MacArthur out the White House, and which was only possible thanks to FDR's huge support for uncle Joe Stalin and the smashing of Europe.

We have bleed as well as N.Z. AU., Canada, and England as a whole for nothing at all. It was the worst thing possible that the White Race died in two jew war's that spelled suicide for the West.

WW 1 murdered 9.5 million White uniformed males under age 32. Not counting the flu, mentally disturbed/damaged and wounded.

War is fine for your Nation's interest, not anything else.

The new Hawthorne report speaks of the high N.Z. teen age suicide count..

With the type of media, schools, open borders, and manufactoring gone, these wars helped to accomplish all this..

N.Z. of all the English speaking Nations would be the easiest to retake.

Interesting. Can you tell us more about this tactic? Are they using it in Iraq?

Along that vein, is there any sources of info for what the Great Satan is doing in this regard in Afghanistan and Iraq?

From what I hear they could be using some sort of Enclave strategy in Iraq, holding Bagdad & some parts of the country and letting much of it rot. Halliburton took bunches of money to rebuild, string electric lines, all that, and never did a thing. Iraq is not being rebuilt.

For billions if not trillions of bucks you can dig a few latrines and pipe a bit of water, for Pete's sake. Maybe screw in some lightbulbs to show off a new generator or two.

It's not happening which means ZOG don't want it to happen. Just like here in the States. Thousands of crumbling powerhouses and millions of miles of rotting highways and we go in debt for Israel? We're being set up now. We will be the New Iraq in less than a decade, barring Interesting Times.

Afganistan? Enclave strategy for sure. ZOG holds the poppy fields, not the mountain passes. Kipling is dead. Afganistan is about supplying cheap drugs to the gangstas in the Kwa.

The reality is that the collaborators are already inside and will always be inside. Successful insurgencies, like those in Iraq, have members who are all part of an extended family or are members of an insular tribal/religious group. No one joins such a group - you are either born into it or you are not. "White racialist" groups are usually composed of total strangers, at least 25% of whom are government agents and 25% are ex-cons, homosexuals and drug addicts who will turn states evidence for a guarantee of immunity or reduced sentence. Ask David Lane if you don't believe me. Thats why the idea of the "lone wolf" has gained so much credence in WN circles - unless you have known someone your entire life, it is not possible to really trust them.

I am referring to those who, while under martial, turn in resistance fighters to ZOG in exchange for benefits, and a false sense of security.

I think the israeli methods and tactics that are currently being utilized in Palestine are a good indicator of how ZOG will react. Multiple methods being used to smash the resistance to oppression in Palestine. We need study their tactics thoroughly in this on-going arena of jew-backed destruction of resistance. Then propose methods of negating these methods.
Good thread, Subrosa.

The reality is that the collaborators are already inside and will always be inside. Successful insurgencies, like those in Iraq, have members who are all part of an extended family or are members of an insular tribal/religious group. No one joins such a group - you are either born into it or you are not. "White racialist" groups are usually composed of total strangers, at least 25% of whom are government agents and 25% are ex-cons, homosexuals and drug addicts who will turn states evidence for a guarantee of immunity or reduced sentence. Ask David Lane if you don't believe me. Thats why the idea of the "lone wolf" has gained so much credence in WN circles - unless you have known someone your entire life, it is not possible to really trust them.

Okay, so we're not in some extended family or tribal group. This means a separate security apparatus apart from the main insurgency group, "Political commisars" or "Gestapo" if you will. Todd has some good links in the other Revolutionary thread to some books that could inspire some ideas.

I think the mistakes of the Order would make an interesting thread in itself.

ZOG's main weapon at home would be the newsmedia, of course. Show the Kwans how the resistence is hurting children and the informants would line up in the thousands. That's why lone wolfism is ideal in the new revolution... not cells of people who work together. Lone wolfism is more effective too. The govt has little or no evidence in criminal cases except for informants that either set people up or get info from people who get caught and inform on others. Lone wolves can do things that the govt is not ready for too. Explosives and dems and bullets are old hat. The new revolutionary has to employ the weight of ZOG against itself. Besides that the govt is ready to find a bomber a lot faster than they would be able to find someone who can destroy things using electronics, chemicals, davids tool kit or even propaganda.

ZOG's main weapon at home would be the newsmedia, of course. Show the Kwans how the resistence is hurting children and the informants would line up in the thousands. That's why lone wolfism is ideal in the new revolution... not cells of people who work together. Lone wolfism is more effective too. The govt has little or no evidence in criminal cases except for informants that either set people up or get info from people who get caught and inform on others. Lone wolves can do things that the govt is not ready for too. Explosives and dems and bullets are old hat. The new revolutionary has to employ the weight of ZOG against itself. Besides that the govt is ready to find a bomber a lot faster than they would be able to find someone who can destroy things using electronics, chemicals, davids tool kit or even propaganda.

I really hope you're right, Todd.

[color="DarkOrange"] http://www.louisbeam.com/leaderless.htm

The efficient and effective operation of a cell system after the Communist model, is of course, dependent upon central direction, which means impressive organization, funding from the top, and outside support, all of which the Communists had. Obviously, American patriots have none of these things at the top or anywhere else, and so an effective cell organization based upon the Soviet system of operation is impossible.

Two things become clear from the above discussion. First, that the pyramid type of organization can be penetrated quite easily and it thus is not a sound method of organization in situations where the government has the resources and desire to penetrate the structure; which is the situation in this country. Secondly, that the normal qualifications for the cell structure based upon the Red model does not exist in the U.S. for patriots. This understood, the question arises "What method is left for those resisting state tyranny?" The answer comes from Col. Amoss who proposed the "Phantom Cell" mode of organization. Which he described as Leaderless Resistance. A system of organization that is based upon the cell organization, but does not have any central control or direction, that is in fact almost identical to the methods used by the Committees of Correspondence during the American Revolution. Utilizing the Leaderless Resistance concept, all individuals and groups operate independently of each other, and never report to a central headquarters or single leader for direction or instruction, as would those who belong to a typical pyramid organization.

It goes almost without saying that Leaderless Resistance leads to very small or even one man cells of resistance. Those who join organizations to play "let's pretend" or who are "groupies" will quickly be weeded out. While for those who are serious about their opposition to federal despotism, this is exactly what is desired.

http://www.louisbeam.com/

ZOG's main weapon at home would be the newsmedia, of course. Show the Kwans how the resistence is hurting children and the informants would line up in the thousands. That's why lone wolfism is ideal in the new revolution... not cells of people who work together. Lone wolfism is more effective too. The govt has little or no evidence in criminal cases except for informants that either set people up or get info from people who get caught and inform on others. Lone wolves can do things that the govt is not ready for too. Explosives and dems and bullets are old hat. The new revolutionary has to employ the weight of ZOG against itself. Besides that the govt is ready to find a bomber a lot faster than they would be able to find someone who can destroy things using electronics, chemicals, davids tool kit or even propaganda.

I agree. A Media Affairs Division within the resistance could put pressure on the controlled media with lead and H.E., while conducting it's own psych ops. But, here we go talking stategy and tactics out in the open again, not to mention this is just fantasy at this point.

If you think Hal Turner and the NSM are deflections/diversions, they will pale in comparison with what the ZOG will do when the shooting starts. Disinformation asnd false flag ops will be the order of the day, much worse than now. Alex Jones has that much belled pretty good.