Agree. Sick of the Duke apologists and cheerleaders. Down and dirty IS coming. So is honesty. It is inevitable, their opposites have dominated
to the point of putrefaction.

David Duke is a womanizer and teen-molester masquerading as a family-values politician, and an atheist masquerading as a Christian. He's jerking off the Jeboo morons just like any other Swaggert. Don't let VNN's style fool you: we care about our reputation more than any additional donations we might bring in by playing up to the Christians and patriotards. In every single instance VNN and VNN ALONE has told you the truth about jews and WNs and everything else.

It seems a lot of people, katbat included, find it easy to lead WNs around the nose. My theory: most are apologistic about their beliefs and, in cognitive dissonance, overstate them, thus worsening the cycle.

Better to be pragmatic about it and state an honest but not over-emotional case. The use of humor as in Linder's writings is essential also.

Well I'm betting on you, but you can bet that the bigger you get the bigger percentage of your base will be Southerners.

I've agreed w/ this the whole time.

That goes for Don Black and Jamie Kelso and Kevin Strom.

Did everyone notice how Strom tries to make Sheehan out to be a WN? Or how everyone on SF ignores the fact that JJT is a race mixer and jew sympathizer?

We can't make concessions with people who are weak just because they are "kinda" WN. We have to be hard and prepare for a fight. David Duke has done a lot of research on the jew, true, but his actions speak volumes. I was almost willing to let the gambling thing go but his support of SF and DB is disgusting.

Big surprise: a politician pretended to be a Christian

‘Leaders’ have been doing that since Constantine converted

Wow. What precipitated this shot across the bow? Most everyone agrees Duke's books are effective (I've read My Awakening). However, any reasonable person looks askance at putative schemes designed to "beat" the gambling houses. Actually, everyone knows that is mere horseshit. I guess what I'm wondering is, why is it getting laid down like this? What has got Alex Linder so mad?

Here's something you can bet on: it will take a non-Southerner to lead WN to victory. Southerners are too honorable and not vicious enough.

My known forefathers hit Plymouth in 1637, so I'm a Yank to the bone. Not sure why you want to drag regionalism into this. Hypocrisy and malfeasance are not the prerogative of any one time or place.

$100K could have bought him quite a few more face-lifts. He could have looked like Michael Jackson by now.

Wow. What precipitated this shot across the bow? Most everyone agrees Duke's books are effective (I've read My Awakening). However, any reasonable person looks askance at putative schemes designed to "beat" the gambling houses. Actually, everyone knows that is mere horseshit. I guess what I'm wondering is, why is it getting laid down like this? What has got Alex Linder so mad?

I posted something important and which you can well believe is true. And it is certainly relevant.

Those who speak against us, and that includes Easy Dave, are not our friends. They are our enemies. And that goes for his fruity Robin, the Sea Org monkey.

We here at VNN stab these backstabbing, bad-mouthing douchebags in the front. They whisper in the back.

My known forefathers hit Plymouth in 1637, so I'm a Yank to the bone. Not sure why you want to drag regionalism into this. Hypocrisy and malfeasance are not the prerogative of any one time or place.

That's true, but not my point.

All considerations must be subsidiary to WINNING.

Robert E. Lee cared about HONOR more than victory.

That is a recipe for losing, today just as back then.

David Duke is a hero among men. Glenn Miller has even said he has done more for his race than anyone in recent times. I don’t believe a lot of hearsay about Duke without proof. And about his religious views, this is something that a lot of WN’s grasp at straws with. They do this with Hitler and GLR even though Hitler stated publicly and in his book about his love for positive Christianity. And of the 5 GLR speeches I have heard he praised Christianity, said he was a Christian and his goal was to return America to a Christian republic and not socialism. This is in GLR the lost recordings.

If Hitler, Duke, and GLR praised Christianity in public and despised it in private this would mean they were 3 of the most twofaced people on the planet. I believe all were upright defenders of whites and fought the Jew valiantly. I don’t believe any of these men were so cowardly that they would change their views just to appear as something they are not in public.

David Duke (a prince among men) is the strongest promoter of Christianity in modern racism. I have heard the rumors of his actions, but those are all unproven rumors. When ZOG came knocking Duke went to court, kept his mouth shut, didn’t turn on anyone and took his time like a man. Look at him now even at his advanced age he is still in top physical condition.

How can you say southerners are not vicious? It was in the south that groids were promptly hanged by the dozens, while Northerners at back quietly and accepted the invasion. Southerners are laid back until they get riled, then groid riots don’t even hold a candle to our wrath. Granted it takes a while.

In defense of David Duke.

NO ONE has brought or is bringing more White people into awareness of the catastrophe the jews have created for us -- than David Duke. My Awakening is a terrific awakening tool (more than any other single source, it completed my own awakening), as is Jewish Supremacism. His international travelling and speaking in an effort to unite all White people around the world is a huge contribution. As we were reminded the other day, he is taking great personal risk in doing what he does. He is a courageous White Patriot.

This is not to say he is not human. We all are. We all make mistakes, no doubt. None of us is perfect -- perhaps not even you, Alex.

But to attack one of our premier leaders does not reflect well on the attackers -- and, more importantly, doing so weakens our movement. And, even though I admire your own courageous contributions, Alex, my reprimand includes you.

Maybe you're right (you probably are) in saying that we can't nice our way out of this war to the death being waged against us by the jews (and all the other non-whites). But before we can respond in kind, we must have numbers. Without sufficient numbers revolution is not possible. David Duke, better than anyone else, is bringing in those numbers worldwide -- and putting his life on the line to do so.

I think the right thing to do regarding David Duke is simply to thank him.

Thank you, David Duke. Thank you so much for devoting your life and intelligence and all your many good Aryan qualities to saving our people.

David Duke is a hero among men. Glenn Miller has even said he has done more for his race than anyone in recent times. I don’t believe a lot of hearsay about Duke without proof.

It isn't hearsay. It's directly from the source.

And about his religious views, this is something that a lot of WN’s grasp at straws with. They do this with Hitler and GLR even though Hitler stated publicly and in his book about his love for positive Christianity. And of the 5 GLR speeches I have heard he praised Christianity, said he was a Christian and his goal was to return America to a Christian republic and not socialism. This is in GLR the lost recordings.

My point is that Duke is not a Christian, but pretends he is to make money. That makes him a hypocrite and a douchebag. Most important, it's not the way to win.

If Hitler, Duke, and GLR praised Christianity in public and despised it in private this would mean they were 3 of the most twofaced people on the planet. I believe all were upright defenders of whites and fought the Jew valiantly. I don’t believe any of these men were so cowardly that they would change their views just to appear as something they are not in public.

Hitler I don't know about. As best I can tell, he thought it would eventually wither or Nordicize away. I think that is possible myself. I believe if there were no jewish media matrix to poison minds, an Aryan value system could be promoted that the mass of people would abandon Christianity in favor of.

David Duke (a prince among men) is the strongest promoter of Christianity in modern racism.

Now you know that he's not a Christian at all.

In defense of David Duke.

NO ONE has brought or is bringing more White people into awareness of the catastrophe the jews have created for us -- than David Duke. My Awakening is a terrific awakening tool (more than any other single source, it completed my own awakening), as is Jewish Supremacism. His international travelling and speaking in an effort to unite all White people around the world is a huge contribution. As we were reminded the other day, he is taking great personal risk in doing what he does. He is a courageous White Patriot.

This is not to say he is not human. We all are. We all make mistakes, no doubt. None of us is perfect -- perhaps not even you, Alex.

But to attack one of our premier leaders does not reflect well on the attackers -- and, more importantly, doing so weakens our movement. And, even though I admire your own courageous contributions, Alex, my reprimand includes you.

Maybe you're right (you probably are) in saying that we can't nice our way out of this war to the death being waged against us by the jews (and all the other non-whites). But before we can respond in kind, we must have numbers. Without sufficient numbers revolution is not possible. David Duke, better than anyone else, is bringing in those numbers worldwide -- and putting his life on the line to do so.

I think the right thing to do regarding David Duke is simply to thank him.

Thank you, David Duke. Thank you so much for devoting your life and intelligence and all your many good Aryan qualities to saving our people.

Now you go make a post over at Stormfront or davidduke.org praising VNN for awakening people.

Oh, that's right. They won't let you.

Your reply smacks of exactly the cultism that has prevented WN from moving forward. Nowhere did I criticize Duke for his books. I think they're good, and effective, and I've always said that. I say the same of Jared Taylor's work.

What I did and do assert is that Duke is a hypocrite; a playboy family man and an atheist christian.

If you don't like the truth, blame Duke, not the messenger.

I don’t want to get off topic or anything, but I read an old thread last week where you called Duke and talked to him for about an hour. I haven’t seen any updates, but from that thread it appeared that the two of you had a mutual respect. What happened?

Why doesn’t Duke like VNN? Is it just because he goes about things in a more political way? I can’t see why both can’t coexist. Like Rockwell said “there is a need for everyone and a position for everyone”. He said we need the bullies and fighters and we need the people wearing suits and could use political savvy.

Personally I don’t see why hardliners and people that soften the message should fight each other when we all have the same enemy and common goal.

I understand you don’t like Christianity and plan to offer something better however you don’t think there should be a war against White Christians. I respect that, I think we all should have a right to religion or lack of it. And if someone can produce something better to me than Christianity I will join up.

BTW I have never posted at Stormfront or any other message board except NSM (about 20 posts on the old one) and White revolution once and then only to clear a misconception that someone there was me.

I don’t even read other message boards because I think overall VNNF is the best. The rest are just boring.

I believe that even if the allegations against Duke were true he is an effective author, speaker and propagandist. One of the reasons the Jews are successful is because they cover the shortcomings of their own. One of the reasons racists hit so many humps is because we expose our own instead of protecting them. Even if Duke was the scum of the earth he is not the enemy, Jews are. And even if he was the worst atheist alive I would still buy his books and pamphlets because they are true and good tools.

Much like I didn’t believe in everything Dr Pierce said I still use a video I have of him to show to people because it contained truth. If the message is true use it, we can’t account for every action of the messenger.

In defense of David Duke.

NO ONE has brought or is bringing more White people into awareness of the catastrophe the jews have created for us -- than David Duke. My Awakening is a terrific awakening tool (more than any other single source, it completed my own awakening), as is Jewish Supremacism. His international travelling and speaking in an effort to unite all White people around the world is a huge contribution. As we were reminded the other day, he is taking great personal risk in doing what he does. He is a courageous White Patriot.

This is not to say he is not human. We all are. We all make mistakes, no doubt. None of us is perfect -- perhaps not even you, Alex.

But to attack one of our premier leaders does not reflect well on the attackers -- and, more importantly, doing so weakens our movement. And, even though I admire your own courageous contributions, Alex, my reprimand includes you.

Maybe you're right (you probably are) in saying that we can't nice our way out of this war to the death being waged against us by the jews (and all the other non-whites). But before we can respond in kind, we must have numbers. Without sufficient numbers revolution is not possible. David Duke, better than anyone else, is bringing in those numbers worldwide -- and putting his life on the line to do so.

I think the right thing to do regarding David Duke is simply to thank him.

Thank you, David Duke. Thank you so much for devoting your life and intelligence and all your many good Aryan qualities to saving our people.

Might be a bit off topic but gambling affects gambling addicts like a narcotic. This isn't excusing someone for being weak, but everyone has their flaws. Some flaws are more forgivable than others.

I've noticed Duke moderating his tone somewhat when on the jewtube, but he held the central theme, which is that his purpose is to safeguard white european culture and people.

Being politically savvy may appear as weakness but often times effective for a shrewd politician. Bill Clinton was an immoral dirtbag but probably one of the most effective politicians ever.