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Bardamu
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Braun,

Your writing style is getting better and better. I particularly liked this line:

Holocaustianity - an almost complete fabrication based on decontextualized pictures of typhus victims who were prevented from receiving what is by any objective standard heroic levels of care by the Germans (please compare with previous non-German internment experiences in Andersonville and the Boer War) - are now presented as victims of the “gas chambers”, technological terrors every bit as real as Orson Wells’ Martian Tripods, and deployed to much the same effect on American public opinion. Only you can’t go to jail for telling the truth about the Tripods.

Bardamu


 
Posted : 14/01/2006 4:43 pm
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Negative points:
1- Commiting the foolish gesture of declaring war on the US, just because Japan did so first
2- Not listening to his high-ranking officers. Point 1, especially
3- Underestimating critical situations

a- Russian winters
b- fighting on too many fronts
c- trusting sabotage-capable slave labor with the manufacture of armaments
d- devoting valuable resources to enormous projects which had no immediate neccessity
e- failure to adress fundamental constitutional issues (reformation of civil service laws. Restructuring of the judiciary)
f- failure to mistrust subordinates who were busy engaging in power play against each other (SS vs. SA), thus not attending to the need of establishing a tight chain of command and accountability.

"1- Commiting the foolish gesture of declaring war on the US, just because Japan did so first"

For a guy as politically savvy as Hitler that declaration of war on America took big Jew off the hook bigtime, as there was absolutely no desire on the part of ordinary Americans to go to war with Germany WHATSOEVER.

The speculation that Pearl Harbor was somehow orchestrated by FDR and the higher ups does have a ring of truth about it, regardless though, it galvanized the nation very strongly against the Nips, with lines forming outside recruiting stations so Americans could get some payback. It served its purpose whether intentional or not.

But what it did not do was stir up Americans against Germany. Big Jew was probably twisting itself into a pretzel trying to figure out how to get America into a war with Germany, remember this at a time when Congressional Declaration of War still meant something and was vital for this scale of conflict.

Why in the hell did Hitler hand that gift to Big Jew on a silver platter??? :confused: More than anything I think that one blunder alone may have doomed Germany, given the industrial might of America at the time and the resources she brought to the war, human and material.


The mob was heading in, to ransack and loot the apartments of the terrified old men and women. When the troopers arrived, M-16s at the ready, the mob threatened and cursed, but the mob retreated. It had met the one thing that could stop it: force, rooted in justice, backed by courage.-1992 Republican National Convention Speech, Houston, Texas, by Patrick J. Buchanan August 17, 1992

 
Posted : 14/01/2006 5:02 pm
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Hitler is part of World history.He now belongs to everyone everywhere.

Millions of us are waking up to the fact that in Hitler we had one of the greatest leaders in History. The jews holocau$t is wearing thinner by the day and the entire World can see Israel for the hellish parasite it really is. Nothing the jews can do will change the fact that an increasing number of 'our' people have woken up to the fact that the wrong side won WW2. That Hitler was a decent man who wanted NOTHING OTHER THAN THE RETURN OF THE CITY OF DANZIG AND ITS GERMAN POPULATION TO THE REICH.

Hitler wanted no war with the west. The great westward campaign began on May 10 1940, six weeks later the low countries and France had seen the light while German Panzers had driven the British Army all the way to Dunkirk.

Here were 300,000 British Soldiers trapped on a beach. Instead of taking the entire British Army prisoner, Hitler let them go. The Luftwaffe Stukkas could have made mincemeat out of these men but Hitler had served as a Soldier in WW1 himself.

He let them go home.

Does anyone in Europe think there would be tens of millions of muslims and sub-saharan Africoons living in their midst had German arms prevailed in WW2?

Would the countless millions of Eastern Europeans have been enslaved by jewish communism for two generations had the Germans won?

Would an Israel have been created and the incalculable costs in life, stife, money and misery had Hitler succeeded?

Like hell! The Jews would have been shipped to Madagascar and there may well have been relative peace on Earth.

The wrong side won WW2.

Jews.


 
Posted : 14/01/2006 5:16 pm
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Uniforms in this time and place are counterproductive. Hitler's message is eternal and as true today as it was then. It is a history lesson and it is important for us to counter all the lies told about him. Jews fear this truth and misquote him as often as possible.

take this Hitler quote taken COMPLETELY out of context for decades...
“Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it
Jews will suggest that he was giving a lesson on how to decieve people, but he was referring to JEWISH PRACTICES.
These lies must be countered.

Thanks for pointing this out--it's just another one of the erroneous quotes. The actual quote was from Mein Kampf if anyone's interested.

BTW in regards your avatar: Julius Streicher's B-day is coming up. I'm going to hoist a cold one in his honor.

Julius Streicher: hanged (strangled, really) for publishing "hate" literature. RIP.


 
Posted : 14/01/2006 7:04 pm
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I am certainly not a conservative.

What? What does it show? I am against dressing up in ridiculous uniforms and making a laughingstock of yourself, as well as turining off 99.99999 % of the White population.

I really dont think it matters anymore FW Braun. I like your opinions and agree with a lot of what you said but lets face it we're not going to win back this entire country or somehow restore the constitution or kick out every single third world animal that we've obsorbed over the last 40 plus years, this is just not realistc.

Forget the labels and the imagery, its irrelavent right now. What we need to do 1st is get our people to start thinking in racial terms on all issues of the day. Then we need to create White communities, towns, or settlements before we can even think about the idea of a White Nationalist take over of America, because it will never happen. I'm sorry to inform everyone on here about this, but in my opinion America is done! We need to move on now, and find new/better strategies for the future. The Balot Box strategy will never work in this day and age, nor will getting rid of the Neo Nazis - it will just further divide us. Look, Americans with half a brain left will eventually realize that we are right, I did, after years of believing in Conservatism.

The situation here will just get worse over the years and White Americans will have no where else to turn, they'll have to join us out of nessecity. No one likes Niggers or Mexicans even the die hard White liberal will admit this in private or at least practice it in action by separating themselves from them. In many ways our movement is growing by defacto methods in which we have massive epidemics all over the country of White Flight, they're specifically moving because of the browning of their old neighborhoods, it's just that simple. I think in time our problems will be resolved in a more natural process than most of you on this board might think.


 
Posted : 14/01/2006 7:45 pm
Oy Ze Hate
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Hitler a liability? Hitler is a figment of the jewsmedia's collective imagination.

Hitler equals the guy who almost succeeded in removing the jew from positions of power and influence in his home country.

He's the world's bogeyman. The victors write the history books. I don't know about distancing ourselves from him.

I mean you can't even spraypaint a Swastika on a synagogue anymore without everyone getting all panicky and weird...everything has been coopted by the jew. I've been hearing about Hitler now for, well, my whole life. And one day I thought, you know, why the hell are they still dragging his name through the mud all the time? What gives? Hitler this and Hitler that...what a bad guy he was, so I was told.

Then I found out he was so damn good and had he done a few things differently, actually might have won his and his country's freedom from the crushing heel of jew rule. And that's why the jews bash him so relentlessly with their various press outlets; because he was a white hero.

It's the jewsmedia and jewish power that is the real liability. Hitler is just another skeleton in the jews' closet that they bring out daily to scare the white people. Bad dictator, no victory. Now everyone be reminded of how hateful and evil white independence is.


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Posted : 14/01/2006 8:24 pm
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Face it, Hitler was either very bad (he started a world war) or very stupid (he wanted to get back one small city but stuffed-up and started a world war). Either way, people with Nazi fixations are seen as crazy losers by 99.999% of the world. This is a simple fact.


 
Posted : 14/01/2006 9:48 pm
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I really dont think it matters anymore FW Braun. I like your opinions and agree with a lot of what you said but lets face it we're not going to win back this entire country or somehow restore the constitution or kick out every single third world animal that we've obsorbed over the last 40 plus years, this is just not realistc.

Forget the labels and the imagery, its irrelavent right now. What we need to do 1st is get our people to start thinking in racial terms on all issues of the day. Then we need to create White communities, towns, or settlements before we can even think about the idea of a White Nationalist take over of America, because it will never happen. I'm sorry to inform everyone on here about this, but in my opinion America is done! We need to move on now, and find new/better strategies for the future. The Balot Box strategy will never work in this day and age, nor will getting rid of the Neo Nazis - it will just further divide us. Look, Americans with half a brain left will eventually realize that we are right, I did, after years of believing in Conservatism.

The situation here will just get worse over the years and White Americans will have no where else to turn, they'll have to join us out of nessecity. No one likes Niggers or Mexicans even the die hard White liberal will admit this in private or at least practice it in action by separating themselves from them. In many ways our movement is growing by defacto methods in which we have massive epidemics all over the country of White Flight, they're specifically moving because of the browning of their old neighborhoods, it's just that simple. I think in time our problems will be resolved in a more natural process than most of you on this board might think.

I could not have put it better.


 
Posted : 14/01/2006 9:51 pm
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I mean you can't even spraypaint a Swastika on a synagogue anymore without everyone getting all panicky and weird.

That's either a quite funny sick joke, or you have major reality problems!


 
Posted : 14/01/2006 9:53 pm
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Hitler has been overplayed. It just doesn’t have the shock value it once carried. There was a time when the mention of the name would get a gasp from the unwitting recipient. Now people just don’t care. So I don’t think mentioning him or not will affect anything. It may get a mention in the Jewspapers but as far as a positive or negative reaction from the people you are trying to reach (Jews don’t count) you just won’t get it. As far as people are concerned these days if he isn’t affecting the price of gas, groceries or guns he is nothing more than a figure in a history book. Besides how many modern day Americans are educated enough to actually know anything about Hitler?


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Posted : 15/01/2006 1:32 am
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I think there is a point to be illustrated here: Notice how regardless of who brings up Hitler, the argument quickly turns back to the WWII era and the Holocaust and who the real "good guys" were. This is why we can't get anywhere, because we are more concerned with proving Hitler, who had already lost, was right than we are interested in actually developing and putting our ideas into practice in a post-modern world. We are supposed to be a political movement, not Hitler's PR agency.


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Posted : 15/01/2006 4:39 am
Aryan Lord
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I think there is a point to be illustrated here: Notice how regardless of who brings up Hitler, the argument quickly turns back to the WWII era and the Holocaust and who the real "good guys" were. This is why we can't get anywhere, because we are more concerned with proving Hitler, who had already lost, was right than we are interested in actually developing and putting our ideas into practice in a post-modern world. We are supposed to be a political movement, not Hitler's PR agency.

But surely that mainly depends upon whether you adhere to the National Socialist Weltanschauung?
In my experience the cause of the divisions within the "movement" is the result of the split between white nationalists per se and National Socialists.The two world views do not necessarily amount to the same thing.
Most National Socialists are in agreement with the doctrines and aims of National Socialism but white nationalism by contrast is a moveable feast and its aims and doctrines depend upon who one talks to. The two movements are in fact seperate and make uneasy bed fellows. This is an issue for which there is no solution. You will not get agreement on this. At the end of the day we are not only seperate movements with differing aims and doctrines but on some issues we are diametrically opposed although this depends upon what "white nationalist" you are talking to and how he views things.
We National Socialists will never cease to defend or promote our Fuehrer.


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Posted : 15/01/2006 4:46 am
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So long as National Socialists are dedicated to the promoting of a dead man and a different view of history moreso than they are a living ideology and a modern political program, so will their movement fail just as surely as "White Nationalism".


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Posted : 15/01/2006 4:51 am
Aryan Lord
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So long as National Socialists are dedicated to the promoting of a dead man and a different view of history moreso than they are a living ideology and a modern political program, so will their movement fail just as surely as "White Nationalism".

National Socialism is an eternal doctrine,revealed through the study of nature all around us. Its greatest exponent however was the Fuehrer. His may be dead but His words live, no less so than the words of the jew on a stick promoted by some on this forum. A man`s legacy lives after he has left this plane of becoming,His presence on this plane or lack of it does not invalidate His work,words or teaching just as the Buddha`s work,words and teaching are not negated by His physical absence so I fail to see the point that you are making.
Just because our "view of history" is "different" does not make it invalid.
Regardless of the Fuehrer`s presence or absence National Socialism was not destroyed,it lives and it is stronger than ever because it has been purified in the fires. Now its adherents are genuine followers not the "fellow-travellers" that went along with it for material gain or convention as the majority did during the Third Reich.
As there is no valid alternative to National Socialism what exactly are you proposing as a "movement"?


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Posted : 15/01/2006 5:03 am
Mishko Novosel
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Truth - The jew has portrayed Hitler as the devil

Fact - The jew controls the minds of 99% of the white lemmings out there

Result - Hitler is a liability until the real truth is told and the white lemmings wake up


I'm NOT a jew, I just play one on youtube.... :)

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Posted : 15/01/2006 5:13 am
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