Any planning for demonstrations or strikes should be methodically worked-out beforehand, with special consideration being given to coping with the power of the jew’s media spin and the magnitude of that negative consequence on the outcome of the event.

We must get better at framing the event with our own spin.

Absolutely. But before planning your own mass demos/rallies etc for which you still dont have the numbers to intimidate anyone follow FranzJoseph advice and infiltrate and hijack already existing movements.

It took only a few hundred German NS to hijack the popular social protests in Germany 2004. See here: http://www.deutscher-nationalismus.de/npd/hartz.htm

The USA needs a left-wing nationalist movement. It must be anti-capitalist ( at least fighting actively Globalization which has destroyed thousends of American working class jobs), anti-imperialist (at least in so far as the middle-east policy of the USA is concerned) and of course nationalist (at least rejecting and fighting illegal immigration).

This is even more correct for Europe. America's movement doenst need to be as overtly socialist as Europe's has to be.

The jew won the war while we were all watching TV. They snuck in and cut the head off of America and replaced it with a hook-nosed kike. Now, everything we once controlled, they control.

We will only defeat them on this new battlefield by using some of their own tactics to shift some of the herd in our direction and we&#8217]

Political goals obtained by White people via violent methods in a "democratic" society - where is that model?

The Irish Nationalists obtained their political objectives in 1921 - and in the 100 years since have accomplished exactly nothing with violence. Maybe that explains why the IRA was led by the nose by MI5 for the last 30 yrs purposely down a path of violence. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main.jhtml?xml=/opinion/2003/05/15/do1501.xml&sSheet=/portal/2003/05/15/ixportal.html
(Michael Collins would have had the vision and acumen to stop such madness; but then again he was not interested in maintaining cultish mafia fiefdoms for personal gain.)

As long as a veneer of legitimacy is maintained in a democratic society White people will never support violent revolution. That is the lesson Hitler learned in '23 and that is the lesson sincere Irish Nationalists have been slow to realize. Conflict management scenarios, false dichotomies, strategy of tension, managed chaos - the whole spectrum of sinister population control methods have been played out and perfected in the laboratory of Ireland - and the list of White funerals and martyrs reads like a phone book.

Here in America are we not smart enough to see these experiments and learn from their results?

Violence is a dead end.

Why are we willing to be led down a dead end and cede our enemy so much moral ground?

Alex said:

But there are other legal options a nationalist organization could use. The mobilization of the masses, strikes, and mass demonstrations are (still) within the frame of the constitution and very effective measures for the advancement of a peoples cause.

Then FranzJoseph:

I have a dream White Nationalists get hip and take what they know to the Middle Class and to the colleges and to every dentists office and hospital waiting room near them.

And Brutus:

We must get better at framing the event with our own spin.

Is this all really too much trouble for us? Operations outside the realm of their controlled paradigm should be our only focus (i.e., appeals directly to our people; actions that will effect a culture revolution and lead to a political rev. - not violent rhetoric that alienates us and leads to increased repression), actions such as this: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13272368/

Brutus again:

Any planning for demonstrations or strikes should be methodically worked-out beforehand, with special consideration being given to coping with the power of the jew’s media spin and the magnitude of that negative consequence on the outcome of the event.

Too much trouble too? We cross over the line then we live over the line - because we have prepared ourselves physically, psychologically and financially to endure and withstand the hatred of our enemy. Then we blend among the people, becoming the people, guiding the people, establishing a network of support for all those who cross or wander over. Such as steakman. As it was he had no network of support; only his personal courage kept him at it. Imagine what we could do if we were prepared for these cross-over opportunities. Who was there for these boys when they crossed over?: http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?section=state&id=4474218

Only the jew to show them the error of their ways. And then back into the judeosphere they were absorbed.

How many missed opportunities have we had? and will continue to let slip by? How long will we squander so much moral ground? (Does the jew leave his ppl out to dry?)

Once someone crosses over or strays over, we need to be there with all the tools and weapons the jews and their lackeys use against us now: spokesman, lawyers, media presence - everything and anything appropriate for the situation. Just the way the jews are now.

One by one they cross over, and we are there to counter the orchestrated smear campaign - and ensure that they remain over to one degree or another. That is how we will win hearts and minds. Not as "Nazis" or evil racist terrorists, but as ordinary WN Americans bearing a new hope and faith for the future, connecting to our people one opportunity at a time.

The people need to be the driving force of our movt, moving it incrementally in the direction we lead them:

"The time will come when it will not be our party which brings this system crashing down, but the people itself." -- PJ Goebbels

Think of the conscious-awakening effect we would have when our voice/explanation/support breaks through the jews' controlled media week after week. Suppression would no longer be possible, as events would take on a life of their own and spread. Their rigged game would be up. Robespierre is smiling.

Our task is creation in the realm of politics. Are we up to it? I submit that it is much harder to live for your beliefs than it is to die for them. Our job - those who have already crossed over - is to create a jew-neutralized cultural environment that is comfortable for our people to live in once they themselves cross over. Only then can we begin to create in the political realm.

Are we smart enough to beat the jew at his own game - or are we not?

RE: irish88

I agree with most of what you say.

No former jew-manufactured model should be followed, such as that that has our Irish brethren chasing their tail for so long or the myriad of other false flags that have diverted our efforts.

However:

The solution is specificity of the target, augmented with a highly precise exit strategy. We’re not talking about bridges or buildings or things that would ultimately be rebuilt with White man’s tax dollars, but rather the systematic obliteration of the intellectual driving force behind our enemy. If we make martyrs, they will rest assured that their noble efforts were not wasted upon broken bricks.

In the past, it was the shields that were attacked to no avail. This time our warriors shall go to the heart of the matter with no distraction.

And furthermore, this thrust is but one prong of the multifaceted stratagem.

The invisible noose is tightening. Our proof of this fact, is the rising din of hysterics from the jew media and the noticeably forced intensity of their agenda via the media. The walls are closing in from abroad and from within and they are freaking out.

What about running pro-white candidates for office under a 3rd Party banner.
God knows the two jokes we have,Democrats and Republicans don't do
a damn thing but spend their own money and help themselves.
I was thinking of maybe a real racialist like Jared Taylor of American Renaissance http://www.amren.com to become a
candidate for Congress. Or maybe Pat Buchanan?

Political goals obtained by White people via violent methods in a "democratic" society - where is that model?

The Irish Nationalists obtained their political objectives in 1921 - and in the 100 years since have accomplished exactly nothing with violence. Maybe that explains why the IRA was led by the nose by MI5 for the last 30 yrs purposely down a path of violence. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main.jhtml?xml=/opinion/2003/05/15/do1501.xml&sSheet=/portal/2003/05/15/ixportal.html
(Michael Collins would have had the vision and acumen to stop such madness] http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13272368/ [/URL]

Brutus again:

Too much trouble too? We cross over the line then we live over the line - because we have prepared ourselves physically, psychologically and financially to endure and withstand the hatred of our enemy. Then we blend among the people, becoming the people, guiding the people, establishing a network of support for all those who cross or wander over. Such as steakman. As it was he had no network of support; only his personal courage kept him at it. Imagine what we could do if we were prepared for these cross-over opportunities. Who was there for these boys when they crossed over?: http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?section=state&id=4474218

Only the jew to show them the error of their ways. And then back into the judeosphere they were absorbed.

How many missed opportunities have we had? and will continue to let slip by? How long will we squander so much moral ground? (Does the jew leave his ppl out to dry?)

Once someone crosses over or strays over, we need to be there with all the tools and weapons the jews and their lackeys use against us now: spokesman, lawyers, media presence - everything and anything appropriate for the situation. Just the way the jews are now.

One by one they cross over, and we are there to counter the orchestrated smear campaign - and ensure that they remain over to one degree or another. That is how we will win hearts and minds. Not as "Nazis" or evil racist terrorists, but as ordinary WN Americans bearing a new hope and faith for the future, connecting to our people one opportunity at a time.

The people need to be the driving force of our movt, moving it incrementally in the direction we lead them:

"The time will come when it will not be our party which brings this system crashing down, but the people itself." -- PJ Goebbels

Think of the conscious-awakening effect we would have when our voice/explanation/support breaks through the jews' controlled media week after week. Suppression would no longer be possible, as events would take on a life of their own and spread. Their rigged game would be up. Robespierre is smiling.

Our task is creation in the realm of politics. Are we up to it? I submit that it is much harder to live for your beliefs than it is to die for them. Our job - those who have already crossed over - is to create a jew-neutralized cultural environment that is comfortable for our people to live in once they themselves cross over. Only then can we begin to create in the political realm.

Are we smart enough to beat the jew at his own game - or are we not?

Anyone that thinks that they are going to turn things around by voting is living in a fantasy world. This country is a police state already, and the candidates you vote for are picked by your enemies.

Take it to the courts? Please tell me how you are going to change anything there. Even if you could, the battle would again shift to the legislative arena, where you are back to square one.

...our ancestors dropped the ball. The longer we wait, the more violent it's going to get.

I dare anyone to prove me different.

Gramsci's strategy was not called The Long March for nothing.

The point is not that I don't approve of violence or even wouldn't love Artie's all night firing squad; my point is that it has proven to be ineffective for the reasons I described.

My point was to describe the strategy the jews used to undermine us, and then suggest ways that we could begin to counter their culture subversion, and win the people back over to our side.

You don't like the model I suggest, fine with me. Then the onus is on you to show us another successful one. Show us a model where violence has worked for us, given the conditions we face as I outlined above. I'll throw in a couple more obvious examples where it didn't: Zimbabwe and South Africa. Why wasn't worse better there? Why?

Because White people without political power = death.

The AWB and the IRA were a thousand times more organized, better armed, trained, motivated and financed than American WNs and still they never had a chance. Why?

Because men with guns is no substitute for political power.

"'Struggle' to a man of the West means bullets, armies, and aircraft carriers. But to our enemy, international wars are of little meaning; 'struggle' to him means not war but politics, and accordingly he has perfected his weapons in this most decisive of areas. Soldiers have never made good politicians, and, by the nature of their respective crafts, the soldier must always lose to the man of politics." -- RP Oliver

And so I ask again, are we up to the struggle or not?

RE: irish88

Gramsci's strategy was not called The Long March for nothing.

The point is not that I don't approve of violence or even wouldn't love Artie's all night firing squad; my point is that it has proven to be ineffective for the reasons I described.

It’s a little known fact that the PCd'I was partially financed by Israel Moses Seif banks of Italy. Do you really think that Gramsci’s hogwash would have had any traction had it not been for the jew’s banker money that trumpeted him as a world class thinker? If Gramsci is one of your heroes, and I’ve hurt your feelings, well then I’m sorry about that. I just call it as I see it.

And I don’t know where you get your distaste for violence when considering the vast number of murders and other heinous crimes perpetrated against our people that cries-out for blood vengeance. I believe that if most White people knew of the full extent of jewish atrocities committed against our kin, we’d see something like a scene out of a Frankenstein movie where the wild-eyed town folk storm the castle with pitchforks and torches and dispatch the monster, posthaste.

Violently killing enemies is a long standing Aryan tradition.

My point was to describe the strategy the jews used to undermine us, and then suggest ways that we could begin to counter their culture subversion, and win the people back over to our side.

Yes, and you do make some good points. However you miss the historical elephant in the room, and that is that the communist movement was financially underwritten by the vast wealth of the old European jewish banks. Therefore, where do you suggest that White Nationalists get funding? You know, the funding needed to purchase newspapers, radio stations, etc. for the dissemination of our propaganda. And how about the money we’ll need to buy-off adversarial politicos and the police and every other sell-out who got payola from the jew? I’m talking about the same kind of mega-bucks that the reds had at their disposal when they started their so called long march.

Money amplifies the message - jewish children are taught this at age 2.

You don't like the model I suggest, fine with me. Then the onus is on you to show us another successful one. Show us a model where violence has worked for us, given the conditions we face as I outlined above. I'll throw in a couple more obvious examples where it didn't: Zimbabwe and South Africa. Why wasn't worse better there? Why?

Who is us? Us schmush! There are about 900 jews on this website right now reading this post, do you really think that I’d tell them where the White Nationalist Elite Sniper Corps target list is? My God man! If they knew that I have that list hidden under my pillow, they’d break-down my front door and throw me in jail and then they’d warn all of their heeb friends to get bullet proof yarmulkes.

I’m just having a little fun here. I don’t have any list.

Because White people without political power = death.

But this point ignores the accomplishments of the American revolutionaries.

The AWB and the IRA were a thousand times more organized, better armed, trained, motivated and financed than American WNs and still they never had a chance. Why?

Maybe they were jew-infiltrated false flags. But speaking frankly, I don’t know enough of those organization’s inner workings to say definitively what their problems were.

Because men with guns is no substitute for political power.

Men with guns take political power from tyrants. Fidel and others are a testimony to that fact.

"'Struggle' to a man of the West means bullets, armies, and aircraft carriers. But to our enemy, international wars are of little meaning; 'struggle' to him means not war but politics, and accordingly he has perfected his weapons in this most decisive of areas. Soldiers have never made good politicians, and, by the nature of their respective crafts, the soldier must always lose to the man of politics." -- RP Oliver

You take Revilo out of context here. Certainly we agree with this in the context it was written; Once power has been forcefully rested away from the tyrant by the soldier, then power becomes the responsibility for those who would be governors.

And so I ask again, are we up to the struggle or not?

A careful tempering of viewpoints is always in a group’s best interests. Let’s kick ass and take names.

Yes, and you do make some good points. However you miss the historical elephant in the room, and that is that the communist movement was financially underwritten by the vast wealth of the old European jewish banks. Therefore, where do you suggest that White Nationalists get funding? You know, the funding needed to purchase newspapers, radio stations, etc. for the dissemination of our propaganda. And how about the money we&#8217]

I had started a thread about the "Communist Union of west-Germany" (KBW) a few days ago: http://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=37177

However it got no feedback although some very interesting insights and possible answers to many of our questions are given in it.

The KBW wasnt financed by the communist regimes of abroad and neither by any "jewish bankers". It was financed solely by itself. Through its memebers, their idealism and dedication to their cause.

As for Gramsci, the movement here in Germany actually uses a variation of his ideas now for many years. However, i dont think they would have been half as successful if they werent "assisted" by some of the white gang violence going on in parts of Germany.

In the age of Globalization,its not the international Left,but the nationalist Right,which is the true anticapitalist force,which will set restrictions on the international Capital and will secure and improve the nation-state as a social shelter.

 

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Its ok, I'll try to get over it. My only point for mentioning him in this context was to point out that our enemy's strategy was a patient one. And Gramsci's hogwash is not the issue, rather his strategy for undermining us is. It succeeded and we need to understand the methods he used and figure out ways to counter them if we want to win. Turning over the table and killing your opponent is one way, but I suggest that 1) the people wont buy it, 2) we are not so desperate and helpless, 3) smarter than that.

And I don’t know where you get your distaste for violence when considering the vast number of murders and other heinous crimes perpetrated against our people that cries-out for blood vengeance. I believe that if most White people knew of the full extent of jewish atrocities committed against our kin, we’d see something like a scene out of a Frankenstein movie where the wild-eyed town folk storm the castle with pitchforks and torches and dispatch the monster, posthaste.

I tried to explain that I don't have a distaste for violence, I just don't think its been an effective strategy given the examples and models I cited. So far no one has provided a successful model of violence that we should emulate, except for your jewish-hollywood fairy tale

Violently killing enemies is a long standing Aryan tradition.

So is being a martyr to false flags, lost causes and abstractions. I'm suggesting concrete ways we can prevent that this time.

Yes, and you do make some good points. However you miss the historical elephant in the room, and that is that the communist movement was financially underwritten by the vast wealth of the old European jewish banks. Therefore, where do you suggest that White Nationalists get funding? You know, the funding needed to purchase newspapers, radio stations, etc. for the dissemination of our propaganda. And how about the money we’ll need to buy-off adversarial politicos and the police and every other sell-out who got payola from the jew? I’m talking about the same kind of mega-bucks that the reds had at their disposal when they started their so called long march.

Money amplifies the message - jewish children are taught this at age 2.

We need to get our own house in order first and show the Anglo-money that we represent a credible alternative. Can you blame them for sitting on their wallets till now?

Who is us? Us schmush! There are about 900 jews on this website right now reading this post, do you really think that I’d tell them where the White Nationalist Elite Sniper Corps target list is? My God man! If they knew that I have that list hidden under my pillow, they’d break-down my front door and throw me in jail and then they’d warn all of their heeb friends to get bullet proof yarmulkes.

I’m just having a little fun here. I don’t have any list.

The AWB and IRA had their lists too. Where did it get them except for many a trip to their own funeral.
http://www.serve.com/pfc/euro/loughgal.html

But this point ignores the accomplishments of the American revolutionaries.

Success in their culture revolution came long before the first shot was fired.
http://www.independent.org/newsroom/article.asp?id=1485

Maybe they were jew-infiltrated false flags. But speaking frankly, I don’t know enough of those organization’s inner workings to say definitively what their problems were.

We need to study these models and learn from their mistakes. Otherwise we are on the exact same path they were and are doomed to repeat them.

Men with guns take political power from tyrants. Fidel and others are a testimony to that fact.

Successful culture wars win over the hearts and minds of men and give legitimacy to men with guns. Without the People's Will men with guns are simply anarchists or tyrants.

You take Revilo out of context here. Certainly we agree with this in the context it was written; Once power has been forcefully rested away from the tyrant by the soldier, then power becomes the responsibility for those who would be governors.

Oliver was writing an introduction to a political treatise. The quote I cited accurately conveys his and the book's larger point: the jew is at war with us through politics. Can we respond with politics is up to us.

A careful tempering of viewpoints is always in a group’s best interests. Let’s kick ass and take names.

The struggle is for the people. We either have the hearts and minds of the people and as such we represent their legitimate will and act in their authority or we don't. If we do have them then where are the tangible proofs of this? If we don't have them then we need to try to win them. If we refuse to even try to win them then we have no right to claim that we represent anyone other than ourselves.

RE: alex

I had started a thread about the "Communist Union of west-Germany" (KBW) a few days ago: http://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=37177

Quote from the link you gave:
Individual members brought in entire fortunes and inheritances.

Were these individual members persuaded to this altruistic giving by their great love of the KBW or were they possibly manipulated by mock opposition from the jew’s media? We also see this fierce dedication in the brainwashed religious-cult organization members, where we see the same sort of financial commitment to their cause. This is a very key point. The psychological parallels are unmistakable, and this observational lesson is not lost by the jew. As a matter of opinion, I believe that the jew uses this same tool in both instances.

And furthermore, what is not seen is whether or not the KBW had either direct or tacit support from any of the jew media organs. This is what I was getting at with this thread. Certainly, we don’t have proof in the form of memos or minutes of committee meeting to substantiate these connections, nevertheless we must operate under this assumption.

The coincidental date of 1985 and the demise of the KBW is another reason to suspect the source of their hidden financial strength. There was that decided shift in jewish global political enforcement that emphasized media brainwashing instead of a lead pipe to the side of the head. This is when the jew decided to put all of his resources behind the media instead of feet in the street.

Just as in Germany during the 1970s and 1980s, a large group of ideological zealots cannot be made in today’s world without the authoritative imperative of the mass media to give them impetus. We must supplant the authoritative imperative with our own to in order create our own.

RE: irish88

You bring some fresh perspective to this forum. And I respect your intelligence. Of course there are bits and pieces of other movement’s strategies that would be wise to incorporate into our line of attack However we must be careful to keep the ideology separated from the means.

I like to keep it simple. I think about the common worker and his condition under Hitler and the NSDAP and then I contrast that picture with what I know of the quality of life had by those common people living under the various forms of communism. There is no choice here.

I tried to explain that I don't have a distaste for violence, I just don't think its been an effective strategy given the examples and models I cited. So far no one has provided a successful model of violence that we should emulate, except for your jewish-hollywood fairy tale

Certainly, you are entitled to your opinion on this matter. My opinion is rooted in historic fact and of a deep understanding of the nature of White people and has nothing to do with jew contrived media productions. Our race has survived because of it’s brutality towards all others. Denying that genetically ingrained fact will not make it go away. The most ancient records of European history and the archeological records of prehistory bear me out on this. When we are finally pushed to that bitter most edge of that threshold toward extinction, you can rest assured, the blood will flow. I believe it would be prudent to position ourselves to our greatest advantage before that time comes, as to lessen the amount of lost White blood.

Also, I am not foolish enough to advocate that anyone here should commit an illegal act or get themselves into a situation that the jew could utilize to gain propaganda leverage. I just tell it like it is and I leave it up to those who read my words to decide for themselves what should be done. The jew goes out of their way to give their opinion, I go out of my way to give mine.

I urge you to continue your exploration into the various strategies and bring what you find back to the table so we can hash it out. I am also forever a student.

brutus,

this is going to be a lengthy answer to your post so please bear with me

The communists in Germany of the 70's were treated by the "mainstream" media and the population as a whole as outcasts like we the neonazis today.

The terrorist attacks of the RAF worsened the situation beacause mass hysteria broke out. Comparable to the hysteria against the moslems after their terrorist attacks.

The KBW was a maoist organization. Because of that it was heavily critisized by even fellow communists. The maoists because of some of their ideas ( a nation should be self-sufficient, not dependent from foreign countries, Soviet-imperialism should be fought as fiercly as US-imperialism, favouring national instead of international solutions etc) have been accused of having "nationalist tendencies".

The altruism you speak of is common practice in revolutionery organizations as long as their members are dedicated to the cause and strongly beleive in it.

Here i found a flyer of 1932 by the NSDAP given to communists explaining to them that the party didnt need any capitalists to finance itself, but on the contrary the party financed itself through the altruistic contributions of their members: http://www.calvin.edu/academic/cas/gpa/liste8.htm

Another example the former-nazi millionaire who inherited all his money to neonazi lawyer Rieger to advance the cause :

Leftists Hysterical Over Planned Pro-German College in Germany

Leftists in Germany are in a fever pitch of hysteria over the possibility that a pro-White lawyer might end up owning a hotel block in the northern German town of Delmenhorst, which he has announced will become a center for research and conferences for pro-German causes.

Leftists in the city are trying to persuade townsfolk to donate money to buy the Hotel am Stadtpark before the transfer to lawyer Jürgen Rieger, who runs the "Wilhelm Tietjen Stiftung für Fertilisation Ltd." Rieger, a lawyer in Hamburg, is well known in Germany as the defender of a number of prominent pro-White activists, including Ernst Zündel.

The enraged leftists have put up a web site with the goal of collecting enough money to match Rieger's offer of €3.4 million for the empty hotel located across the street from the Delmenhorst town hall. It's the only hope they have of preventing the Wilhelm Tietjen Foundation from acquiring the property, as there are no legal steps available to prevent the now owner of the building, Günter Mergel, from selling to Rieger.

The attempt to buy the Delmenhorst hotel is not the first time the Wilhelm Tietjen Foundation has made headlines with its real estate interests. The group, which has its formal seat in London, bought a 19th century manor house from the German army in 2004 with the intention of transforming it into a center of reproductive and fertilisation research.

Rieger is also the head of the "Germanic Faith Community for Life Creation" and was also chairman of the "Society for Biological Anthropology, Eugenics and Behavioral Research."

Wilhelm Tietjen was an unrepentant National Socialist from the 1930s who made a fortune on the stock market after the war. He died in 2002.

Media Link - http://service.spiegel.de/cache/international/0,1518,430912,00.html

News Source: NAN

Another prominent example is Blood&Honour. The original idea of B&H was that nationalist music bands stage concerts, sell their cd's and only keep a very small part of the income for themselves. The rest would be used to advance nationalist projects.

You see altruism and the spirit of socialism arise whenever a cause has found fanatic followers who truly beleive in it and are seriously prepared to do anything they can to advance it.

Besides bringing in fortunes and ineritances into the KBW, a KBW member would contibute at least 1/3 of his wage to the organization. Internally a limit of 1000 DM ( 500 $) was set, which the KBW member could use for himself. Anything he earned beyond the 1000 DM was contributed to the KBW. He would stand in front of factory gates and in railway stations from 5.00 till 7.30 in the morning to sell the communist paper to the German working masses. Many voluntarily sacrificed their "carreer", even though they had a high education level, to go to the enterprises to get in contact with workers and build small revolutionery cells there. And the list goes on and on.

Do you see the dedication,altruism and fanaticism? Isnt that inspiring?

The 1985 date has more to do with the rise of the green-alternative movement in Germany.

Because of the failure of outspoken communist organizations and parties and the "lone wolf" tactics of the RAF troughout the 70's, the communists tried a new tactic: infiltrating a "neutral" Party and advance their cause from within the system.

If you see footages of delegation conferences of the Green Prty in the 80's you will witness fierce fights and arguments between the different blocs: communists, civil-rights activists, simple ecologists and even a small conservative/nationalist bloc.

Anyway this is getting off topic here. I hope i gave you some insights to this. Btw yours together with FranzJosephs posts i enjoy the most on the forum i must say.

Best regards,
Alex

It may seem like a political solution will not work, that's because there isn't one in Mairca yet. Look at the BNP, the NPD and the Front National - the Republicans and Democrats had to START SOMEWHERE!

Thanks for your generous appraisal. I'm here just like everyone else trying to learn and understand on the fly. Its a tough and thankless business we've accepted, trying to detach this parasite from the Aryan psyche...

Its thanks to men like you that I've learned so much here over the years. I salute your tenacity. This great forum, as you astutely described many posts ago, is our leadership academy, in the business of preparing men to step over the line and create "with eagle's eyes," and I treat it as such. I'll share more as I too learn and see more. May we all see a little clearer everyday. Death to the parasite.

- irish88

P.S. Oh just one point of clarification: I'm no fan of Gramsci nor an advocate of any part of the marxist ideology, Im just an observer of their methods, and, like a political commando, trying to figure out ways we can neutralize them through politics, as Napoleon remarked, our Destiny.

RE: alex

The communists in Germany of the 70's were treated by the "mainstream" media and the population as a whole as outcasts like we the neonazis today.

As was the counterculture in America in the late 1960s and early 1970s. Nevertheless, there was still significant jew media support for the counterculture. Every city in America had so-called underground newspapers and radio stations that gave the anti-establishment movement guidance and support. All the while, the other main stream jew media organs preached moral indignation at the left and never giving solid support or guidance to the right in order to help thwart the left‘s attack on the status quo.. It was all just lip service aimed at the so-called “silent majority” for appearances sake. Much like FOXNews’ Bill O’Reilly’s three year long bombastic rant railing against illegal aliens that never stopped one mexican from coming into the USA. I suspect the same jew modus operandi was at work in Germany and that quite possibly you didn’t see it (maybe you were too young at the time?). A jew, as with a leopard, cannot change it’s spots.

The KBW was a maoist organization. Because of that it was heavily critisized by even fellow communists. The maoists because of some of their ideas ( a nation should be self-sufficient, not dependent from foreign countries, Soviet-imperialism should be fought as fiercly as US-imperialism, favouring national instead of international solutions etc) have been accused of having "nationalist tendencies".

The Asian has always had a propensity for wanting a cloistered society, it’s no wonder why the various ideologies emanating from there would have the same bent.

Here i found a flyer of 1932 by the NSDAP given to communists explaining to them that the party didnt need any capitalists to finance itself, but on the contrary the party financed itself through the altruistic contributions of their members: http://www.calvin.edu/academic/cas/gpa/liste8.htm

Now this sort of thing is important. VNN’s own Geoff Beck’s latest radio show highlights the fact that many on the left are genuine thinkers and they can be brought to our side with substantive argument. I whole-heartedly agree. It’s just a matter of finding those open-minded thinkers and giving them the facts. The moral underpinnings of our cause will sell itself to the brighter folk.

Do you see the dedication,altruism and fanaticism? Isnt that inspiring?

Yes, very impressive. We are starting to see resources come in as well, but nothing near that sort of dedication. I, being 3/4 German can understand the German mindset at play here. The single mindedness of purpose has always been a German asset and strength. It’s a little more difficult here in the US to achieve that same intensity and unity.

The 1985 date has more to do with the rise of the green-alternative movement in Germany.

This is a whole different topic that would require a lengthy explanation for another day.

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One can’t be skeptical enough or wary enough of the jew. Because we Aryans have used trust as a survival strategy for ages, as opposed to the Semitic deception strategies for the survival of their cultures, and that key difference is what opened us up for subjugation. This trait runs deep within our psyche, more so then common naiveté.

We must learn to assume that everything out of the jew’s mouth or anyone else‘s mouth, is a lie, until proven authentic by reasonable investigation. It’s difficult to operate under this constraint, however, it is imperative that we do.