If it is, so what??

All I see is one White Patriot writing and reaching out to another White Patriot. If it is genuine then we need more of it. What we don't need is little bitches like you who post private correspondences between WN's in an attempt to stir up shit.

And how is it that she/he (mother of apes) has such a letter?

Can you tell us how you have it?

This is old news and once again, our informant friends are a day later and a dollar short. One version of this letter was doctored up by someone and another was a pretty dry "hey, how's it going" letter. Its the normal jewish-stir-up you can expect from Kevin Myrick and his loyal goy, Scott Robbins.

Where have you been ? The shit isn't being stirred, Glenn Miller called Bill Weisse aka White (SPLC) out on another thread. The fight is on...

The article is not new it's online and reported on several websites right now. It only seems new because you've not read it before. I want to verify the authenticity which is something as far as I know those sites didn't do before publishing it.

If you don't have anything good to say about another White Man or Woman then shut your pie hole. This is an effort to authenticate evidence which is pertinent to the debate between Glenn Miller (VNN,WPP) VS. Bill Weisse aka White (NSM, Overthrow, Libertarian Socialist, Communist, Anarchist, Nazi Greens).

Wouldn't it seem out of place to have the NSM Spokesman publicly attacking Glenn Miller as a Rat, yet that Spokesman is supposedly under command of jeff Schoep who says he wants Glenn Miller to be his Mentor and teach him everything he knows.

Where have you been ? The shit isn't being stirred, Glenn Miller called Bill Weisse aka White (SPLC) out on another thread. The fight is on...

The article is not new it's online and reported on several websites right now. It only seems new because you've not read it before. I want to verify the authenticity which is something as far as I know those sites didn't do before publishing it.

If you don't have anything good to say about another White Man or Woman then shut your pie hole. This is an effort to authenticate evidence which is pertinent to the debate between Glenn Miller (VNN,WPP) VS. Bill Weisse aka White (NSM, Overthrow, Libertarian Socialist, Communist, Anarchist, Nazi Greens).

Wouldn't it seem out of place to have the NSM Spokesman publicly attacking Glenn Miller as a Rat, yet that Spokesman is supposedly under command of jeff Schoep who says he wants Glenn Miller to be his Mentor and teach him everything he knows.

Actually, I don't think even Miller will buddy up to you. Good luck though. This letter is old news and number one: its a doctored version of an original, number two: its probably doctored by you or the jew Dean Roberts since its got an obvious fuck up like:

From : NSM jeff Schoep Minnesota Unit " Commander ".

Nah, Jeff never capitalizes his name and he's just part of the Minnesota Unit. My advice to One People's Project, Citizens Against Hate and the like, HIRE BETTER HELP!

And how is it that she/he (mother of apes) has such a letter?

Can you tell us how you have it?

Ape-Mother is Scott Robbins, CAH and OPP informant. He works for/with Dean Roberts (aka the jew Kevin Myrick) who is admitted informant.

Chris Drake is a liar and a member of NSM, he is under orders to make baseless claims against White Nationalists as his cooperation in a smear campaign to discredit former members of NSM. He is not to be trusted anymore than Bill Weisse (SPLC Informant) aka Bill White.

All of his accusations are false.

von Goethe (1749 - 1832)

"Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity."

ALEX LINDER

"I remind VNNers that any information you turn over to Bill White will be used against you the minute it's in his interest.

Bill White? Piece of shit.

VNN will not work with NSM or Bill White in any official way. He is not WN, he is not trustworthy, he will use any information he gleans from background checks to advance his own interests/inform the feds

What NSM does is its business. But Bill White is my business. Remember ShopWhite? It was Bill's incompetence that released a lot of people's cc information to the world. Then there's the little fact that he likes to share information with the antis and the feds.

The upshot is that Bill White is absolutely untrustworthy. He suggested to the Secret Service that one of our writers had made a threat against the president, solely out of his childish unwillingness to face legitimate questions about his screwups with ShopWhite. If that doesn't make him an informant, then you pick the word. He has libeled me and others too many times to count. He's not a man, he's a punk, just as he was back in junior high.

I warn VNN supporters that any information you provide him or people he works with will be used against you. Bill White has no respect for anything but his own interests, and nothing but lawsuits will faze him. Loyalty, simple integrity - these don't exist to him. He has said many times that WN are losers, and that he is not one of them. When did those change?

Bill White is a government informant. He turned over Victor Wolzek's name to the Secret Service, knowing that VW was not involved with that supposed threat against President Bush. He did this purely out of his juvenile delinquent's malice after VW wrote him a simple letter asking for some answers in relation to the ShopWhite fiasco.

Did you read what I said? Your buddy Bill White encouraged the Secret Service to believe that Victor Wolzek had something to do with a threat against the president's life. Out of his petty rage and childish inability to accept responsibility for the mess he created, White tried to mess up the life of one of the movement's very best writers. The SS did show up at VW's door and interview him at length.

So, Bill White is a punk. He's an "anarchist" who runs to the government to help him carry out his childish vendettas. White has said a hundred times he is not a WN, yet he is accepted into the NSM without a moment's thought. You have had a front seat at the White show. When he turns on the NSM, don't say you weren't warned.

Bill White commits his dirty deeds and runs away. He's a *****. He won't even pick up the phone to respond to challenges.

Don't be fooled. White has ability, both with words and technically. But he has a bad character, and in time he will do to you and NSM what he did to us.

In times of trouble, it is good to reflect on what created the problems in the first place. My reflection leads me to blame myself. I should have stepped in immediately when Marc Moran, without my foreknowledge, contracted with Bill White. My only defense is that I did not fully appreciate White's complete lack of loyalty to anything or body but himself, his complete lack of scruples, and most disturbingly of all his delusionality. His attempts to screw up a site you all visit and look forward to daily require no explanation. The executive summary here is that this guy was paid tens of thousands of dollars to build new VNN and ShopWhite. The money was utterly wasted. The same thing could have been accomplished using free software. With all that money in his pocket, you might expect at the least that White would bow out gracefully when it became apparent that our mutual venture ShopWhite could not survive readers' and potential users' legitimate distrust of him, and their extremely well grounded fear that their private credit card information would be spread all over the 'Net due to his technical incompetence or carelessness. All I can say is that I am sick over what has happened, and that as of this moment VNN completely severs any relationship with William White. The general opinion of Bill White is correct. To those who warned me, what can I say? I was wrong, and now I'm picking off the fleas. "

DON BLACK

"I hadn't noticed Mr. Bill until he started posting articles about Mark Cotterill and the American Friends of the British National Party a couple of years ago. He seemed to be sympathetic to the AFBNP,which was then under attack by Morris Dees' SPLC as violating the Foreign Agent Registration Act by collecting money in the U.S. for the BNP. So I called Mark, figuring he would surely know this guy. To my surprise, he said Mr. Bill was the SPLC informant who had caused all the trouble."

Mr. Bill, the "Libertarian Socialist," has never claimed to be WN. Yet he's quoted as an authority here. Pathetic. I hadn't noticed Mr. Bill until he started posting articles about Mark Cotterill and the American Friends of the British National Party a couple of years ago. He seemed to be sympathetic to the AFBNP, which was then under attack by Morris Dees' SPLC as violating the Foreign Agent Registration Act by collecting money in the U.S. for the BNP. So I called Mark, figuring he would surely know this guy. To my surprise, he said Mr. Bill was the SPLC informant who had caused all the trouble. Mark would eventually be deported as a result. And Mr. Bill would revert to his infantile name-calling -- "Chi Chi Cotterill" (invented by Mr. Bill's homosexual friend) and, most recently, "Stormfront Faggots" and "Stormfront Gives Weenie Kevin Strom A Hand." Mark Potok and Company must be laughing their asses off.

What's the relationship of long-time SPLC informant, general whackjob and all-around POS Bill White to the NSM? Is he really the "spokesman?"

Further down in that thread, "thorax," who was Marc Moran, makes it clear he doesn't believe me.

He'd go on to give White many thousands of dollars for "ShopWhite" auction software, which could have been had for $160 off-the-shelf. After he'd finished with them, White would turn on Moran and his partner, Alex Linder, locking the software Moran had paid well over $10,000 for and attempting to take complete control of their site.

He'll do the same after he's had his fun with you, now that he's the Halloween Nazi "Gauleiter of Roanoke."

As far as Stormfront is concerned, I'll quote myself, from further down in that thread, exactly two years ago today:

"I guess I'm a Darwinist. Anybody stupid enough to trust Bill White deserves what they get. I'd rather they get culled now than later, when everything gets critical."

Rick Kicklighter
"First, I think a person needs to prepare themselves and work on developing within themselves the type of character needed to engage in political activity. You need to develop a commitment to justice and doing what is right, you need to eliminate your own petty personal secrets, and you need to be the kind of person that other people will admire because of who you are. If you can be that kind of person, then you can enter the political arena and survive. If you cannot be that kind of person, you are better off staying in the shadows or focusing your activities on supporting those kind of people."

"If you were ever out on the lake fishing and you had this certain mosquito that kept buzzing around your head, kept annoying you, yet the darn pest wouldn't actually have the nerve to get close enough so you could swat him, then you have an ideal of what Bill White truly is." ( of Whitesurvival.net )

JOHN LAW

"If Bill White is crazy then he's crazy like a fox. The intention here is to point out that having any dealings with this man could be potentially dangerous. I have no idea of how many people actually entrusted him with their credit card numbers and personal information only to find out that some mysterious person has hacked into ShopWhite and now has that information.

Combine that with his vicious slanderous attacks against well known and respected figures in the White Nationalist community and the conclusion should be that this man is in the same camp as Abe Foxman and Morris Dees. He is most definitely not on our side and should be shunned. Pity him if you want but I wouldn't recommend giving him your name or credit card information. "

Madole

"Bill White is white trash and those that support him are no better. Like attracts like. "

Kirk Schultz

My understanding is that Bill White tends to be fickle and changes his stripes a lot. I remember when he was writing for Pravda way back when, and I find it surprising that he has manged to come to the White Nationalist camp. My instinct is that he is playing a game to satisfy his ego. For this reason, I don't trust him and I certainly won't do business with him in any way, shape, or form. I view Bill White as a kind of "trojan horse", whether that is intentional or not on his part.

MAUD DIB

Bill White IS a rat. He is a worthless piece of garbage.

Any WN with any sense will stay as far away from Bill White as possible. As for me, I'll not have anything to do with anyone that works with BW.

CAMIE COSSER

I would hope the NSM thinks about the risk they are taking by having Bill White active within their group. The evidence is clear that he is not one to be trusted. My question is if you know this man can't be trusted and the proof is in the pudding regarding his talking to the FBI, lying about good people within our cause who work hard to get our message out and wake up people to the truth, and giving out names and address why would you take a chance with your own members being burned by this guy who has burned so many people?

Jennifer Adams (former Room-Mate Bill Weisse aka White)

"Just because I am SICK of repeating it, and so many people seem to care... "I am not pregnant and I am not having Bill White's love child. Furthermore, if I was, it would be an immaculate conception. We were only friends and he couldn't handle that. By his own accounts, he is trying to sue me for breach of lease agreement.

"According to his own articles he picked my bedroom lock because I locked myself in MY ROOM all day. I was talking to another guy on the net at the time... Everyone who knows me in REAL LIFE knows that I was utterly repulsed by Bill. He did many weird things like pick my locks, go through my drawers... sniffing my dirty underwear, and I even caught him wearing lingerie one time, and it wasn't mine!

"He has been emailing me and calling me non-stop. He thinks I must love him if I can hate him sooo much. According to my boyfriend, "He is away with the fairies".

"It is now two weeks to the day since Bill White posted to his web site a direct and unambiguous threat against the life of President of the United States. He seems to be still at large. For the United States Secret Service to have given White a "pass" on this is simply stunning. I notice that almost by common consent the topic seems to have been swept under the rug and seems to have almost disappeared from this board. Vot giffs? "I say it is because as I have said since I first ran into Mr B White, that he is just a CIA asset. Remember kiddies, the Company, as us Old Crows call them can not operate on USA soil, but this sure does give them a chance to get the SS Secret Service involved who can operate on USA soil. Which if this were not cointellpro, why did the mighty SS Secret Service not investigate the Credit card numbers stolen from ShopWhite earlier when credit card fraud is 90% of their normal work."

Bill White Quotes Concerning White Nationalists

"I don't generally get involved with groups or movements; when I do it is either because the group seems functional and it seems that we can mutually provide for each other, or it is because some usurper within the group is ready to take it over and has asked for my assistance….I never join a group with the intent of "taking it over" - I only get involved in the take overs if there is some benefit to me without any real potential for loss."

"I am not part of the white nationalist movement because white nationalism has nothing to do with the real betterment of white people - by and large. If I were to become part of them I would then be subject to judgement by their norms, and in all cases, because I am not a miserable failure or misguided as most of the self-defined members are, I would not be properly accepted?"
"I would be real upset about the losers, paranoid freaks and megalomanic self-appointed "elitist" weirdos in the "movement," if it wasn't for the fact that I am not part of the "movement," and thus am totally immune to any repercussions of their peculiar behavior."

"?white nationalism deserves to fail because the people involved in it are too stupid to deserve success, whether that be in their personal lives or their private lives. White nationalism is held back by the freaks defectives, and professional ignoramouses that make up not just its leadership, but much of its rank and file. I am not a white nationalist primarily because I would never want to be lumped in with the idiots who are."

"Most of the white nationalists who are in operation are miserable failures, both personally and professionally. You have petty criminals, porn hustlers, men who live with their mothers, men who can't hold jobs, women with four kids from four different fathers, etc. These folk range from liars to drinkers to thieves to grown men who are still playing at being in "gangs" to the whole list of dysfunctional and deservedly socially rejected people. I can understand playing at being a part of a subculture when you are 14 or 18 or even 21, but if you are 25 or 29 or in your 30's or more, and you are still trying to be "cool" by anyone's standards, you need to grow up."
"I hope most folk out there turn away from the losers and lowlifes of the white nationalist movement and look for constructive ways to build up first themselves, and then their communities."

"I don't like the white nationalist "movement" as a "movement"; it has the same decadent form of either of the two major political parties."

"I'm not a part of fantasy politics. I'm not a National Alliance member because I don't want to play at being a Nazi, and I have no desire to subject myself organizationally to people who aren't competent to judge me."

"?the idiot game that communists and Nazis play fighting each other, just provide more examples of just how idiotic these political fringe fantasies can get. I just want to let both sides know, however, that I'm not part of it. There is a reason you've never been comfortable with my website or my politics, and its not because I'm part of the other side. The reason I make you so angry is because I am above you, I am watching you, and I am mocking you because you are incompetent. I'm not "on the other team" I'm more of the sportscaster commenting except that unlike the sportscasters on TV, I hate both teams, and the reason people tune in is to listen to me rag on both of you.

"Just like there are people who's sport is football, my sport is fringe politics."

"If someone can name one white nationalist leader or commentator who is gainfully emplyed or who has a history of having built any kind of successful organization in any field, please let me know - outside of the conservative fringe of white nationalism, those people don't exist."

Nuff Said ?

Chris Drake is a liar and a member of NSM, he is under orders to make baseless claims against White Nationalists as his cooperation in a smear campaign to discredit former members of NSM. He is not to be trusted anymore than Bill Weisse (SPLC Informant) aka Bill White.

All of his accusations are false.

I can see Dean looking over your shoulder going "now when you're in a real bind, you just cut and paste a bunch of shit and hightale it out of the thread."

Liar, huh? Save it for the judge, Scott, my girlfriend just came on here and saw you accussing me of being a porn actor and being married to some mail order chick. Well, she left and caused major damage to your's truely. You know what that means? Yep. This will all go quicker if you can send me your address without having to track it down.

Anyhow, no one has ordered me to be here. Its just something I do for fun. Hell, you are an informant and you are more or less an admitted one. Who cares what you've got to say. You work for the jewish informant, Kevin Myrick and from what I see, everyone who hangs out on the net to any degree is good and sick of you, regardless of your constant ass kissing. To tell the truth, the Commander only likes the fact that people sign up with us BASED on your's and my conversations. Past that, he doesn't like flame wars. He's got lots to do and he hasn't got time for wash-outs like you and crypto jews like Dean.

So in short, quit whinning to me, stop crying to the moderators and tell Dean to stop trying to get me to leave him alone. Where ever you are, I'm not far behind to remind people that you are an informant and will be labled as such until the day no one remembers your name. I could have told you months ago that hanging around Dean would get you in trouble. Look at the screwed up job he does anyway. Did CAH put you guys together or did you wind up together because well, no one else will get behind you. I mean, there are people who are spitting mad about the NSM and our activities, as well as our members, who wouldn't touch you with a ten foot pole. How does that feel? As low as you think the NSM is, people think informants are lower.

This brings me to the question I asked early. Are you and Dean lovers? I don't mean that to be funny. Why else would you constantly plug Dean (no pun intended) even though you know he's a known informant? How did you expect to accomplish any information gathering on your own if you immediately align yourself with someone who has completely failed at it and been caught. Of shall I say "exposed" to use a word our jewish friend is so obsessed with? Well, actually Dean's idea of "exposing" someone is about like your idea of making an arguement against someone. He just reprints what our enemies have pretty much said in the fucking newspaper and acts like he "broke the story." So just answer yes or no if you and Dean are lovers. We kind of wonder about this since you guys are tight with Rocky and all that. If so, just admit it and it will make you look less incompetent. Or better yet, less foolhearty. Dean talks a good game and trys to convince people that he has people (other than CAH and OPP) supporting him. We just never hear from or see these individuals.

So you are going to sue littleapesmother for posting the truth about you? LOL

Drake the delusional former porn star wrote:

"Liar, huh? Save it for the judge, Scott, my girlfriend just came on here and saw you accussing me of being a porn actor and being married to some mail order chick. Well, she left and caused major damage to your's truely. You know what that means? Yep. This will all go quicker if you can send me your address without having to track it down".

Word is you were not only doing porn with your jewish buddy Ron Jeremy - but you did GAY BI-RACIAL PORN! And on top of that - your mail order prostitute bride and mother of your "Jerry's Kid" boy is also in pornos!

You are yet another sick cretin the NSM attracts - the dregs of society and White Trash like the convicted sexual child molestor NSM leader John Snyder!

So sue me! ROFLMWAO! :cheers:

Please continue to post this before you launch your attacks.

littleapesmother :
Chris Drake is a liar and a member of NSM, he is under orders to make baseless claims against White Nationalists as his cooperation in a smear campaign to discredit former members of NSM. He is not to be trusted anymore than Bill Weisse (SPLC Informant) aka Bill White.

All of his accusations are false.

Its interesting following these oven testers around the threads but I still dont see why they are not removed. Could it be that the supposed 'Mods' are also
kikes or at least agents thereof..

I intend repeating the question until someone of 'weight' give a credible answer.

I have seen the public records concerning Snyder, and in fact he was convicted of raping his exwife. So, he is a convicted sex offender, but not a child molester.

Snyder was news, but let's not impute the big mistake of having him on board to every single person in the NSM. That would be a smear. However, it does impeach the leadership of the NSM for sure.

I am no fan of NSM. However, about you "nighshift." Are you Dean or what? Because I am getting tired of seeing you feed the fire. If you have nothing to say but bitching and moaning about NSM, Bluvens etc. You will have short order to find something else to talk about because my patience with the whole freakshow-- and hearing about it-- wears thin.

I think it comes under the title of "free speech" - Something that you brits don't have. Perhaps there is a forum in GB more to your liking.

Its interesting following these oven testers around the threads but I still dont see why they are not removed. Could it be that the supposed 'Mods' are also
kikes or at least agents thereof..

I intend repeating the question until someone of 'weight' give a credible answer.

No I am not Dean - but I assume your patience must be wearing thin with "Christoper Drake" as well - since he has flaming down to a science and cannot make a single post without outing people by using their names.

I have seen the public records concerning Snyder, and in fact he was convicted of raping his exwife. So, he is a convicted sex offender, but not a child molester.

Snyder was news, but let's not impute the big mistake of having him on board to every single person in the NSM. That would be a smear. However, it does impeach the leadership of the NSM for sure.

I am no fan of NSM. However, about you "nighshift." Are you Dean or what? Because I am getting tired of seeing you feed the fire. If you have nothing to say but bitching and moaning about NSM, Bluvens etc. You will have short order to find something else to talk about because my patience with the whole freakshow-- and hearing about it-- wears thin.