I don't know much about him, although I have heard his name mentioned. If this man served in Vietnam he has earned the right to have a 2nd chance here, in my opinion.

I heard some quote somewhere that jews believe that even if they don't like the individual, they are still jewish brothers. Since I haven't contributed anything as far as cash recently due to circumstances my opinion counts for shit, but I would like to hear why he was banned.

In my opinion, we haven't been following what Alex wanted to do with the forum as far as activism, so anyone into real activism should be welcome, even if people can't stand each other.

Like the sabre said to the musket, 'You think you're hot stuff, huh?'
'Yes, but our purpose is the same, to dispatch the enemy.'

But yiddish fairy tales oozing from yiddish Hollywood has nothing to do with the price of butter in China, or the topic of this thread.

Amen, Amen , Amen ! Too many folks use jewywood fiction as a pattern for real life , very dangerous . Folks should steer as far as possible from movies .

Any White who works cooperatively for the advancement of our race should be accepted .

Let them all back -- all good White men. Let the personal stuff go. Pierce's touchstone should govern all decisions: whatever is in the best interests of the White race. Will's posting here meets that test. Alex's reparticipation meets it too.

Have you all thought about this:

It might turn out Alex Linder was not responsible for kicking out White Will. As it turned out he was not exactly responsible for pornogate, right? True, he took the blame and didn't make a peep. That was admirable, but his loyalty was displaced, as the following events showed clearly.

How many good men left here or were pushed out? The artificially created conflict between Alex Linder and White Will was only the first step. And what about Antiochus Epiphanes? Remove the solid men, the pillars, then let in the jews. How many times do you all have to observe this pattern through history to get a clue?

Do you all realise that Alex Linders credibility among his own people has been destroyed? He was a potential political leader, a future WN star. Not anymore.

Do you all realise that each and every project on VNN is being bled slowly to death in a true kosher fashion, and replaced with a grey, uninteresting, unfunny kosher erzats? How many Goyfires have you heard lately? Wouldn't you prefer them instead of listening to the incessant Estrogen Jose Beck's musings about the state of WN two years ago, before he joined, and how much much better it is now? The last ftl I listened to in disgust was when Alex Linder and Glenn Miller coudn't get a word in, because Estrogen Jose wouldn't shut up. Like king Midas he is, only what he touches doesn't turn exactly into gold.

Mr Miller, after all the shit and humiliation you've taken from Jose, how could you utter words like "Keep up the good work, Geoff"? What "good work"? Have you no pride?

In it's present form, VNN is dying. To begin the healing process, the cancer must be cut out. Estrogen Jose must go. No one could be allowed to ruin a successful organization just because he has the keys to the server room. Linder must have full reign, and shouldn't depend on the mersy of whoever pays the internet hosting bills. We should take care of the bills, for this place to be Independent. A trust of trusted people should collect the money from all of us and pay the bills. And Alex Linder should lead the way, the way he used to, enlightening and educating us, giving us strenght.

All that said, yes, the Will Williamses of this world shold be in. Always. By default.

I, of course, am aware this most certainly is my last post on VNNF. To the friends I've made here and the people I respect deeply: thank you.

Be men, clean the house. VNN is worth saving.

Have you all thought about this:

It might turn out Alex Linder was not responsible for kicking out White Will. As it turned out he was not exactly responsible for pornogate, right? True, he took the blame and didn't make a peep. That was admirable, but his loyalty was displaced, as the following events showed clearly.

What does this mean? Please amplify.

How many good men left here or were pushed out? The artificially created conflict between Alex Linder and White Will was only the first step. And what about Antiochus Epiphanes? Remove the solid men, the pillars, then let in the jews. How many times do you all have to observe this pattern through history to get a clue?

The pattern is there, but the mechanism is unclear. How could Geoff Beck push them out? (Not saying he didn't -- just very unclear how he did it. Has he threatened them with exposure of identity or some skeleton in the closet? What do you know actually about this, Bolg? Or are you just conjecturing?) Why do we hear nothing from Alex on this? Why is Alex not posting at all on his own website?

Do you all realise that Alex Linders credibility among his own people has been destroyed? He was a potential political leader, a future WN star. Not anymore.

Do you all realise that each and every project on VNN is being bled slowly to death in a true kosher fashion, and replaced with a grey, uninteresting, unfunny kosher erzats? How many Goyfires have you heard lately? Wouldn't you prefer them instead of listening to the incessant Estrogen Jose Beck's musings about the state of WN two years ago, before he joined, and how much much better it is now? The last ftl I listened to in disgust was when Alex Linder and Glenn Miller coudn't get a word in, because Estrogen Jose wouldn't shut up. Like king Midas he is, only what he touches doesn't turn exactly into gold.

Mr Miller, after all the shit and humiliation you've taken from Jose, how could you utter words like "Keep up the good work, Geoff"? What "good work"? Have you no pride?

In it's present form, VNN is dying. To begin the healing process, the cancer must be cut out. Estrogen Jose must go. No one could be allowed to ruin a successful organization just because he has the keys to the server room. Linder must have full reign, and shouldn't depend on the mersy of whoever pays the internet hosting bills. We should take care of the bills, for this place to be Independent. A trust of trusted people should collect the money from all of us and pay the bills. And Alex Linder should lead the way, the way he used to, enlightening and educating us, giving us strenght.

Is Beck paying the bills? Is that the reason for his sudden dominance in VNN? Or is he just a White man who has stepped forward through sheer "chutzpa" (uh oh...)?

All that said, yes, the Will Williamses of this world shold be in. Always. By default.

I, of course, am aware this most certainly is my last post on VNNF. To the friends I've made here and the people I respect deeply: thank you.

Be men, clean the house. VNN is worth saving.

Why quit? This is something I've never understood about White men. When the going gets tough, they get the hell out of there. "I object to what you're doing. I'm not going to support it. I'm going to quit! There. Take that. I quit!" To which, the enemy says, good riddance, White man -- I'll replace you with a jew.

JEWS NEVER QUIT. (Although they do jump ship, come to think of it, when they perceive the footsteps of their own death. But that's different. I'm talking about quitting the organization just because things start to disintigrate, because the Enemy is taking control of that organization. How does the Enemy take control of the organization? Do they take control by quitting or by staying and wrestling for control?)

Why do White men always QUIT?

Why not STAY AND FIGHT?

If Beck is the enemy, as you suggest, why are you abandoning the battle field to him? What the hell is wrong with you? (I'm speaking more generally than just you specifically, Borg -- but I include you, quitter.)

Be men, clean the house. VNN is worth saving.

If VNN is worth saving, why the hell are you quitting?

I meant that I would be most certainly banned, Devere.

As for the reasons I am positive Beck is poison to VNN... Read his postings under the AM monicker, read the later postings of SteveB and Sutter, Flynn, Subrosa etc, etc. In one thread in Nutzpah he basically called Chain crazy, and said it was Sikorsky's opinion, this while Stan wasn't even here. There are a thousand more, I don't care to list them all. But I stand by what I said.

The fact is: after the big VNN shutdown, things went downwards, and that's when Beck took over. Anal-porno-gate was his doing, Williams and Antiochus are out because of him. Jews roam free because of him.

Last, let me say this lashing-out of mine is not an impulse. I've contained myself too long. I should have stood up in the beginning when he began banning solid people left and right. Well, for what it is worth, I am standing up now.

Be well.

PS: I feel a bit uneasy mentioning names of VNN posters in this post, I do it because they have made their opinions on the matter known long before I did mine.

Are you Bulgarian or American, Bolg?

I am Bulgarian, Lazer.

Oh noes!!!! My reputation points be halved down!!!!! Bwahahahahaha.

I meant that I would be most certainly banned, Devere.

As for the reasons I am positive Beck is poison to VNN... Read his postings under the AM monicker, read the later postings of SteveB and Sutter, Flynn, Subrosa etc, etc. In one thread in Nutzpah he basically called Chain crazy, and said it was Sikorsky's opinion, this while Stan wasn't even here. There are a thousand more, I don't care to list them all. But I stand by what I said.

The fact is: after the big VNN shutdown, things went downwards, and that's when Beck took over. Anal-porno-gate was his doing, Williams and Antiochus are out because of him. Jews roam free because of him.

Last, let me say this lashing-out of mine is not an impulse. I've contained myself too long. I should have stood up in the beginning when he began banning solid people left and right. Well, for what it is worth, I am standing up now.

Be well.

PS: I feel a bit uneasy mentioning names of VNN posters in this post, I do it because they have made their opinions on the matter known long before I did mine.

Your allegations are either false, lies, exaggerated, or distorted. In some cases there is simply no possibility you could have knowledge of those things which you allege, except, of course, if you are in communication with Alex Linder - which you are not.

Bolg, I think you are pfishing. You seek clarification on events so that you can gather information, using it for your own ends - whatever they may be. Furthermore, your post is calculated to start another round of brawling and infighting.

For sometime now you've been a pigeon with one song: VNN Sucks, it is dying, it is Beck's fault. Ok, I.ve heard you, and everyone interested in this issue has heard you. I suspect most have made up their minds on this issue.

For the record, I had nothing to do with Will William's ban, it was done by Alex Linder. Alex has stated these facts. Furthermore I have never met with, spoken with, written to, and have only vaguest impressions of Will Williams. For the record, I have sent the URL of this thread to Alex Linder and I have asked Alex Linder to rescind the ban on Will Williams.

Quote, Devere:
"Why quit? This is something I've never understood about White men. When the going gets tough, they get the hell out of there. "I object to what you're doing. I'm not going to support it. I'm going to quit!"

Are you really serious with this? Would you prefer a pack of lemmings over
men who can think for themselves? VNN is not our's to save. It's Linders.
If Linder fills his house with shit - that's HIS business. If you choose to stay
- that's your's. VNN/F does not equal The White Struggle in any case.

Oh noes!!!! My reputation points be halved down!!!!! Bwahahahahaha.

VNN Dirty Tricks Dept strikes again. They did the same to me.....made me laugh too.

I meant that I would be most certainly banned, Devere.

Oh. (I don't think you'll be banned. If Beck is the enemy, banning you would be too obvious a move. Jews are subtle.)

As for the reasons I am positive Beck is poison to VNN... Read his postings under the AM monicker, read the later postings of SteveB and Sutter, Flynn, Subrosa etc, etc. In one thread in Nutzpah he basically called Chain crazy, and said it was Sikorsky's opinion, this while Stan wasn't even here. There are a thousand more, I don't care to list them all. But I stand by what I said.

Yes. All these bannings disturbed me too. I'm not sure the cause though. Glenn has wanted to get rid of non-contributors and non-activists. And, I think, Alex may have said the same. I think this is/was a HUGE mistake. But then Glenn and Alex are, I gather, now not communicating with each other anymore. So hard to believe Glenn and Alex have teamed up on this issue. Maybe Alex told Beck to get rid of the "do-nothing" talkers? Personally, I think, as I've said in another thread, posting, when White-intentioned, is contributing.

The fact is: after the big VNN shutdown, things went downwards, and that's when Beck took over.

This seems true. However, was Beck causal?

Anal-porno-gate was his doing, Williams and Antiochus are out because of him. Jews roam free because of him.

I thought Williams was out because Alex said "Get out." As for AE -- that's a mystery of mysteries. Or is there an underlying hidden Beck-cause? And, if you know so, why not tell us? Why not get it all out on the table, and let caring White men discuss it and try to come up with a solution -- and hopefully a way to get White and AE back.

I know this. If the anti-White bannings and segregating were to stop and if Alex and AE and White were to start posting regularly again and if those thrown into Nutzpah were allowed a White man's freedom, VNN would take off upwards again.

Last, let me say this lashing-out of mine is not an impulse. I've contained myself too long. I should have stood up in the beginning when he began banning solid people left and right. Well, for what it is worth, I am standing up now.

Be well.

PS: I feel a bit uneasy mentioning names of VNN posters in this post, I do it because they have made their opinions on the matter known long before I did mine.

Well, the hell with it. Let's try to save VNN. That means determine the cause of the malaise and cure the cause. Put it all on the table.