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I guessed this was coming, anyone else? In the last week some of the postings at Rense and even Tom Paine have sounded a lot like Dr. Pierce. It won't be long now anyway.
Here's the deal: If you had a choice between vast (and profitable) holdings in Europe, N. America, Australia, etc and so on, AND all those profits were threatened by a bunch of lunatics holding onto a shittly little country in Canaan... how long would it take you to decide?
Get ready. This is the latest trial balloon, whether sincere or not, that tells me negotiations are probably already taking place. If I were a Rothschild, Israel would have been gone long ago. Seems like the real Rothschilds feel the same way about it. -- FJ.
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article14354.htm
Pulling the Plug on Israel
No Peace Without Justice, No Justice Without Truth
By David Himmelstein
Whether or not it has reached critical mass, there exists a heterogeneous agglomeration of Jewish people around the world-- e.g., moi--for whom the state of Israel has come to represent an 800-pound albatross that needs to be pried from our necks before it drags us over a cliff. A sense of urgency is propelled by the U.S.-sanctioned bloodletting in Lebanon and Gaza (which now seems to have been planned in advance) and the evident flimsiness of its official justification. With Israeli adventurism on the march, there are well founded fears concerning the general threat that country poses to the peace of the world.
And there is a paticularized danger which stirs a thick chunk of self-interest into the universalism of enlightened Jewish concern. In terms of the fabled Jewish-interest litmus, it is proving decidedly not "good for the Jews" when Israel gets away with murder. The spillover is ubiquitous. After all, we have it on no lesser authority than New York Times heavyweight Thomas Friedman that, in the early days of the American occupation of Iraq, American soldiers in Iraq were being referred to on the Iraqi street as "the Jews".
The worst-case scenario was laid out with characteristic bluntness by dissident Israeli historian Ilan Pappe in a Zmag interview:[INDENT]"I believe what Israel is doing will destroy the Jewish people in the near or distant future as well. Even with 250 nuclear weapons and the support of the world,s only superpower." Supporting scenario has been sketched in by veteran peace activist Uri Avnery:
"What would happen for example if the United States sank ever deeper into the bloody swamp of Iraq, into an atmosphere of national calamity? When the search for a scapegoat is on, the Jewish neo-cons will stick out. . . .One should not exaggerate these dangers. At present they are hardly specks on the horizon. But I would advise the leaders of the Jewish institutions in the United States to exercise some self-restraint. Intoxication with power can easily lead to dangerous excesses."
[/INDENT]Sadly, this advice has not been taken. As a result, it is neither surrealistic or irresponsibly alarmist to worry about a multi-continental outburst of anti-Semitism-- especially when fuel for a new firestorm is being splashed about by those representing themselves as the quintessential defenders of Jewish interests. This present concern should not be confounded with the perennial wolf-crying (the flip side of wolf-baiting) by apologists like the Anti-Defamation League's Abraham Foxman. The current unease is a spontaneous phenomenon-- rippling across a broad range of independently minded Jews, stoking a visceral need to express (even if only in the privacy of their own minds) emphatic disavowal of the self-proclaimed Jewish State.
The endgame denoted in the title of this piece, although a seemingly chimerical wet dream today, is a wish list with three main components.[INDENT]1. In terms of immediate impact, the highest priority would be the withdrawal of lockstep United States support for Israel's provocative adventurism and its brutal stranglehold on Gaza and the West Bank. Maximum U.S. pressure would be applied to hold Israel to its responsibilities under international law and force it to address the basic issues that have generated most of its problems.
2. Another high-impact development would be the voluntary drying up of the river of financial support Israel receives from its many supporters in North America. Obviously, such a stoppage would presuppose a prior psychological upheaval within and among those supporters-- indeed in all diaspora Zionists, i.e., those who believe that Israel is the homeland of the Jewish people
3. Such a psychosocial earthquake would involve upending deeply entrenched and cherished beliefs that contribute to a sense of entitlement, such as that which comes to play when, at any point in his/her life, a North American Jew discovers his/her inner Zionist. He/She can draw on sacred and secular authorization to jet off to the homeland and get fast tracked to a swimming pool in a hillside villa--down below which the indigenous holdouts line up for water from the well.
[/INDENT]Given Israel's present commanding hegemony of resources and discourse, such an upheaval may appear as unlikely as the "spiritual seizure" which a pessimistic George McGovern wished for on a long-ago Election Day.
Nevertheless, there is abundant anecdotal evidence of increasing Jewish alienation. While Israel's life-disrupting separation wall goes forward on the ground, Israel itself is being walled off in independently minded Jewish minds and hearts around the world. (Even some of those who consider their metaphysical identity and destiny thoroughly intertwined with the nation of Israel are troubled by twitches in a vestigial generic-- not proprietary-- human sensitivity. However, the fundamentalist core will cling even more fervently to triumphalism, and carry on with the sanctimonious gong-ringing.)
Always seeking ways to "think outside the box", this writer sees advantage in recycling a pop-psych chestnut to offer non-Jews (not to mention Jews) a certain scope on the unspoken-for world Jewish community. The lens consists of Elsabeth Kubler-Ross's five stages of grieving: denial, anger, bargaining, depression and acceptance.
Interestingly, they were first labeled the five stages of receiving catastrophic news. Both terms are applicable here: decades of "catastrophic news" about Israel and its history have culminated (sometimes outside of conscious awareness) in widespread Jewish mourning and grieving for a lost Zio-innocence.
The most immediate catastrophic news is coming out of Lebanon, but a steady stream has emerged from Gaza and the West Bank during the four decades of Israeli occupation. Perhaps even more unsettling is the cloud of ethnic cleansing which increasingly hangs over the establishment of the state of Israel in 1948. And any rewind winds up in the original traumatic "primal scene": early Zionist settlers' shocked discovery that Palestine was not, in fact, the "land without people" they'd been led to believe.
Many Jews have been shaken out of the denial stage by the substantive force of the bad news, but anger, bargaining ("I promise --.") and depression remain seductive lures. Getting to acceptance implies uncomfortable acknowledgements and adjustments. In the most optimistic of images, it will be a bumpy ride. But no alternative exists. And the hour is late.
There will be no peace in the Middle East without justice, and no justice without truth.
“When I get re-elected I'm going to fuck the Jews" -- Jimmy Carter, 1980.
Posted : 03/08/2006 8:25 pm
If I were a Rothschild, Israel would have been gone long ago.
If you were a Rothschild, how would you pull the plug? I don't see why Israelis will cooporate, for instance. And they have the capability of making things very, very nasty.
Posted : 03/08/2006 10:13 pm
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If you were a Rothschild, how would you pull the plug?
Arrange a revolution, let incompetents win, let the country fall after "a decent interval." It's what happened after the US got out of Vietnam except there wasn't much of an interval. The "revolution" in that case was made in Washington DC and called "Vietnamization."
A revolution would also be the only way to take care of the tricky problem of Israel's nukes.
For Rothschild money this would have to be cheap. Lots cheaper than Jews losing Europe and getting expelled, which is possible if this shit goes on.
“When I get re-elected I'm going to fuck the Jews" -- Jimmy Carter, 1980.
Posted : 03/08/2006 10:27 pm
Yeah, move the jew homeland to the russian hinterland. Tens of thousands of square miles of pristine forests, devoid of humanity. Nobody around for miles and therefore no anti-Semitism and zero terrorism against the chosenites. They can finally have a little peace.
Or Outer Mongolia, or Madagascar, or eastern Namibia, or Alaska. WHATEVER the Holy Land needs to be according to some Jewish scribe of 2,000 years ago.
Problem solved.
As the restaurant owners like to say "location location location".
Posted : 03/08/2006 10:38 pm
This jew is clearly a forward thinking one. Fortunately for us, the remainder of his tribesmen are still as arrogant and chutzpathetic as ever, and his fears shall come to pass. People are going postal at jew offices, setting off explosives at jew universities, and Mel Gibson goes off on a rant about fucking warmongering jews and the only folks who are bothered are kikes. That shit did not resonate with the Amerikwans AT ALL. How can the jewsmedia make Americans care about the jew that is crying anti-semitism for the hundred thousandth time when they cannot afford to pay their electric bill or keep $3/gallon gas in their vehicles? I definitely think we are much much closer to critical mass folks. The time is coming when people will be able to whack jews in broad daylight and the cops will be too preoccupied to worry about it. I'm surprised some anti-ZOG actions didn't go down in STL during the power outage.
Jews Did 9/11
Posted : 03/08/2006 10:47 pm
Do we really think that the israelis will standby and do nothing, and watch a lone naive jew internet scribbler try to take their nipple away?
Somewhere, a mossad umbrella had been rigged to inject a poison ricin pellet under Himmelstein’s skin.
The ink of the learned is as precious as the blood of the martyr. For one drop of ink may make millions think.
Posted : 03/08/2006 10:58 pm
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How can the jewsmedia make Americans care about the jew that is crying anti-semitism for the hundred thousandth time when they cannot afford to pay their electric bill or keep $3/gallon gas in their vehicles? I definitely think we are much much closer to critical mass folks.
Very good point. The spread is:
1. The whole ME explodes (All bets off: World War III for real.)
2. US-ZOG pulls a super 911. Ed Steele says maybe August this time, which is now. If Bushy & Company want their new terror-law to Gitmo the whole country, now's the time to act. (All bets off II: American lockdown.)
3. Wild card. The game changes completely and predictions become impossible. This is where power blocks in the world alter so much so fast even US power will have no means to control it. (All bets off III: American impotence.)
It's beginning now. For instance (This might be the start of something ominous):
China sends humanitarian materials to Lebanon
2006-08-03
22:20:06 BEIJING, Aug. 3 (Xinhua) -- The Chinese government is to send urgently needed emergency materials to Lebanon to ease the humanitarian crisis brought about by the conflict between Israel and the Hezbollah, the Ministry of Commerce said on Thursday.
The materials, including small electricity generators, tents, blankets, sanitation equipment, drugs and other materials, will be sent to Lebanon in two batches on Thursday and Friday.
The materials will be first flown to Jordan's capital Amman, and then to the Beirut international airport, said the ministry.
“When I get re-elected I'm going to fuck the Jews" -- Jimmy Carter, 1980.
Posted : 03/08/2006 11:08 pm
Arrange a revolution, let incompetents win, let the country fall after "a decent interval." It's what happened after the US got out of Vietnam except there wasn't much of an interval. The "revolution" in that case was made in Washington DC and called "Vietnamization."
A revolution in Israel or a revolution in the US? I don't see how a revolution in Israel could fix things, and a revolution in the US would probably precipitate a civil war, no matter whose revolution (the spics? someone like Jared?) you are trying to organize.
A revolution would also be the only way to take care of the tricky problem of Israel's nukes.
Yes, I was thinking of this problem in particular. The biggest fare-well gift Israel could give us would be to nuke both Rome (as van Creveld has threatened once) and Mekka/Medina. Its about the only way I can imagine in which you could create a serious movement to physically exterminate even the last speciman of Satan's spawn.
A better way than a Revolution might be to simply bribe the ones in charge of Israel's nukes. But attempts to do so could just convince them they are about to be pawned, and prompt them to use their nukes in the way mentioned above.
For Rothschild money this would have to be cheap. Lots cheaper than Jews losing Europe and getting expelled, which is possible if this shit goes on.
Yes, the foundation of Israel may turn out to have been a mistake. Perhaps a lethal one for the Jews. Personally, I don't think there is much they can do about it. But I may be too optimistic.
Posted : 04/08/2006 8:36 pm
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A revolution in Israel or a revolution in the US?
Israel, yes. It's not like as if Rothschilds have no experience with revolutions. Just possible that removing Israel would be cheaper than getting removed themselves -- stormclouds are gathering.
Colonel Maguire from Mississippi posted this reply to an Israel Shamir article this past week. He quotes Shamir then makes his point. An excellent point it is:
Dear Israel,
>>even the most tolerant man of the Middle East will come to the conclusion
>>the Romans came to 2000 years ago: there can be no peace in the area as
>>long as the Jewish state exists. After experiencing neocon rule, this
>>conclusion will be shared by the Americans.<<Well get specific. Which Jewish state? The one in Palestine or the one straddling London - New York? It's the one astride the Atlantic that's causing all the trouble. Without it the Jews in Palestine would turn their coats and announce themselves to all be Judaeo-Palestinians in a few days, if not hours.
1. "What will the post Jew World Order world look like?" It turned out that World is going to be very Big in physical terms, like the world was before
the rise of the Judaeo-British-American Empire. Meaning Local will be the
word of the day for virtually all economics. The Oil Age is dying. But
the Electricity Age is not.
Against that the World will also be a tiny village for information. This is
the reverse of the situation that prevailed from the late 19th through the
20th Century. Back then we had Small Physical World (cheap oil based transportation) and Big Information World (centralized and easily controlled 'mass' media). This provided the perfect environment for International Jewry to thrive while also concealing its essential nature.2. "How can we hasten that world along"? The answer is focus on those technologies - jobs if you will - and patterns of life that emphasize the
'Local' that will be. Contrary to the 'myths and legends' spread, most industrial technologies are easily and economically scalable. Down scalable. And ever more so in the Small Information World. The simple act of working and building Locally depowers ZOG step by step. ZOG draws its power from centralized mass media, centralized mass finance and centralized mass trade from which it can invisibly extract vast surpluses while concealing the thefts to the actual buyers and sellers. Small Physical World - Big Information World. As Big Physical World Small
Information World supercedes the former Jew World Order that cheat becomes ever harder to conduct. There are fewer and fewer gaps between buyers and sellers, all of whom are far more aware of the potential for being cheated by 'ZOG'.
That's a good thumbnail analysis.
What Col Maguire here is referring to is "banalization", the process where once-difficult and expensive industrial operations get cheap and abundant.
The biggest hornswaggle in history took place in the 70s when industrial banalization became obvious. Instead of breaking up the old cartels and creating opportunities for local communities, the newly-cheap processes were sent overseas. Instead of local industries for all of us, we got cheap consumer junk that's also destroying what's left of American communities.
Building and working locally will not be simple, tho, because sending the local work overseas in the first place was not a natural market reaction. (An informed market would have kept the work local from 1973 on, when fuel got more expensive.)
Still, the economic case against ZOG is huge. Good to see that some whites know it.
“When I get re-elected I'm going to fuck the Jews" -- Jimmy Carter, 1980.
Posted : 04/08/2006 9:05 pm