All preassembled computers are shit. This is nothing new.

The last time I bought one was... oh yeah! Never! It's not that hard to just make them yourself if you have the time. But unfortunately most people don't have the time nor are they even smart enough to avoid spyware.

If people used Linux then we wouldn't have to pay for software, there would be less or no viruses and spyware. We wouldn't need as much power to do simple office tasks, since Linux is open source it's more efficient. Microsoft loves bloat and so does it's buddy Intel which uses it to keep pushing faster CPUs to people who don't need them.

Dell is only a sympton of the actual problem, which is Microsoft. Microsoft is just a mental handicap.

Actually I generally like Dell. I used to work as a computer technician and Dells were some of my favorite boxes to work on. They had more standard parts and less of the proprietary crap that drove us bonkers. The absolute worst? Packard Bell (we called them "Packard Hell's). They had those dammed Wavetable boards that simulated modems and sound cards. Arrg! I wanted to throw a party when they went out of business.

While I never owned a Dell box, most of my dealings with them (as a proxy for my customers) was satisfactory. Most of the time they replaced parts with no questions asked. Just pay the shipping in, and they paid everything else.

Your points (such as they are) could be pretty generally applied to just about any computer company. Where Dell has outstripped every other company is in inventory control and production. when a company as large as Dell carries only 3 days of inventory, and produces millions of boxes a year, that's pretty hard to beat.

As for quality, I generally buy products that I think are the best and put them together myself, but really, it's hard to make an argument that "computers should be buit to last." IRS expensing rules require most PC's to be expensed out over 3 years and that is well past the age of obsolescence for most PC's.

Yes the boxes put together by the big name companies are made from lower quality parts, but so what? The fact is, QC in the industry is so high now that most computer owners of any brand will never have a significant hardware failure. Most people's problems will be with their OS, or more specifically, the crap they have foolishly installed on their PC over the years. They don't clean up their computers, and they don't manage their drives, then they get Pentium 4's with a gig of ram slowing down to a crawl. I look at the task bar and it is full of crap that shouldn't be there. Most people cause their own PC problems because of their militant refusal to learn basic computer hygiene. Yes Microsoft contributes to the problem with their assinine OS architecture, but really, it's mainly the user's fault.

-Brian

Not sure what kind of a computer technician you were, but here's a reality check:

1. Dell computers are not worth half of the money they cost.

Dell likes to constantly reinvent everything, therefore you have to get parts from them if you wanted to upgrade or replace something. They do not care for standards, what they and the Jews alike care for is $$$.

They have absolutely 0 upgrade ability. I've even worked on their servers which were complete rip-off garbage too. You'd think for several thousand they could make a good server, but I've managed to do better with only a few hundred.

Somehow they have this amazing talent of making a weak server that shouldn't have much hardware into a really huge box. All their chassis are made in the most space inefficient ways possible. They can take any server and double it's size with a ton of plastic and special rearrangements which serve no purpose.

2. Computers are not obsolete after 3, or even 5 years. The only thing that makes them obsolete is the way Microsoft conducts business. Here is just one example among 100s of how they jew everyone out of their money and become so rich in the process.

Microsoft released WinXP for home users, and a year later Win2003 .net server for businesses. They are basically the same exact thing. Only difference being WinXP is bloated with useless crap while Win2003 is nice and clean and runs about 30% faster than XP. A server environment from high paying businesses demands an efficient OS, so only in that case does Microsoft attempt to deliver. But should home users get good products? Of course not, why give dumb home users power when you can keep jewing them out of more money? Don't get me wrong, they make shitty server products too, but I was just showing the difference.

I know all of this because I used to be a Microsoft user/admin until I got fed up with all the brick walls and switched to open source. I've used both WinXP and later when I got sick of it, Win2003. I reached my limit and there was nothing left to improve in such a worthless product, so the only way up was to use Linux.

Here is one example of why computers being obsolete after 3 years is bullshit. I can set up a clean optimized Windows 2003 box on something 500-700 mhz that is easier to use than XP, and which will peform normal tasks as good or even better than any dell (or other name brand) piece of shit preloaded with Winblows XP money can buy. Comparing that to their 3.4 ghz shIntels, is almost like a honda civic vs a dodge viper towing 2 semi trailers.

3. You're right about most people's problems being the fault of the OS. And the OS being made by Microsoft, the fault is completely shifted on Microsoft. Don't blame the virus/spyware/adware/trojan/worm writers, they're just doing what Microsoft ecourages them to do. It's a very large industry. Just like the defence and security industry, it has no purpose, because the problems it seeks to help us with are only a perception.

I was looking for a high-end laptop for someone. The best I found (by far) was the Dell Inspiron 9300. Very nice product. I'd probably get one if I could justify the expense.

"You're gettin' a Dell, Dude." -- Ben Curtis

If you must buy a brand name system, Dell is the last choice you want to make. When I had my computer store, I saw more Dells fuck up than every other computer combined. Their laptops were real shitty too. The thing that pisses me off the most about Dell are their home PC's. They have Intel (who makes their motherboards) reassign the pins on the ATX power connector. So say you own a Dell and your power supply goes out. You go to a computer store, buy a new power supply and install it. You turn on the system but nothing happens. Wait long enough and you might smell smoke. Talk about a total BULLSHIT move. They want you to have to buy the Dell power supply. FUCK YOU DELL. There is an adapter to fix that problem though

Hey Jim Crowe, if you're looking for a good laptop, check out Spartan. They're a custom laptop builder that makes some high end shit. My store dealt with them and they were top notch. I always liked calling in the orders too. Someone would answer the phone with their MA accent, "Spwaaten"

I was looking for a high-end laptop for someone. The best I found (by far) was the Dell Inspiron 9300. Very nice product. I'd probably get one if I could justify the expense.

That laptop looks very unprofessional. You can tell by all the eXtrEmE! metal stuff and the kewl X that it's hardcore to the max. Obviously it's made to appeal to kids.

Dang, I've got a Dell.

I have to deal with Dell customer service frequently at my job.

Only once have I ever gotten a White person on the phone! And he was Canadian! (nothing against Canadians)

I have dealt with Dell servers that can't load their RAID drivers, brand new printers that don't work, ink cartridges that print 10 pages and then quit, desktops where the power supply malfunctions and blows the motherboard.

That's what you get with cheap, re-branded Chinese junk.

Of course you could always buy an eMachine.

I just got myself an Apple iBook with OS X Tiger, haven't had any problems.

Not sure what kind of a computer technician you were, but here's a reality check:

1. Dell computers are not worth half of the money they cost.

Dell likes to constantly reinvent everything, therefore you have to get parts from them if you wanted to upgrade or replace something. They do not care for standards, what they and the Jews alike care for is $$$.

They have absolutely 0 upgrade ability. I've even worked on their servers which were complete rip-off garbage too. You'd think for several thousand they could make a good server, but I've managed to do better with only a few hundred.

Somehow they have this amazing talent of making a weak server that shouldn't have much hardware into a really huge box. All their chassis are made in the most space inefficient ways possible. They can take any server and double it's size with a ton of plastic and special rearrangements which serve no purpose.

2. Computers are not obsolete after 3, or even 5 years. The only thing that makes them obsolete is the way Microsoft conducts business. Here is just one example among 100s of how they jew everyone out of their money and become so rich in the process.

Microsoft released WinXP for home users, and a year later Win2003 .net server for businesses. They are basically the same exact thing. Only difference being WinXP is bloated with useless crap while Win2003 is nice and clean and runs about 30% faster than XP. A server environment from high paying businesses demands an efficient OS, so only in that case does Microsoft attempt to deliver. But should home users get good products? Of course not, why give dumb home users power when you can keep jewing them out of more money? Don't get me wrong, they make shitty server products too, but I was just showing the difference.

I know all of this because I used to be a Microsoft user/admin until I got fed up with all the brick walls and switched to open source. I've used both WinXP and later when I got sick of it, Win2003. I reached my limit and there was nothing left to improve in such a worthless product, so the only way up was to use Linux.

Here is one example of why computers being obsolete after 3 years is bullshit. I can set up a clean optimized Windows 2003 box on something 500-700 mhz that is easier to use than XP, and which will peform normal tasks as good or even better than any dell (or other name brand) piece of shit preloaded with Winblows XP money can buy. Comparing that to their 3.4 ghz shIntels, is almost like a honda civic vs a dodge viper towing 2 semi trailers.

3. You're right about most people's problems being the fault of the OS. And the OS being made by Microsoft, the fault is completely shifted on Microsoft. Don't blame the virus/spyware/adware/trojan/worm writers, they're just doing what Microsoft ecourages them to do. It's a very large industry. Just like the defence and security industry, it has no purpose, because the problems it seeks to help us with are only a perception.

This is not true, I've used Dells on and off for over ten years. I've always been able to easily upgrade them with RAM chips, sound cards, etc. from Walmart or anywhere else. Virtually every non-Dell computer I've had, has had a serious problem at some point which necessitated I replace it. While I've NEVER had such problems with any Dells I had. In fact, I recently had some build your own deal that my brother configured for me, as he is a computer science major, and after 8 months I had a non-recoverable hard disk error. The Best Buy Geek Squad charged me $500 to spend half the day trying to recover it, and determined that the circuit board on the HD was somehow shorted out and I wound up having to send it off to California to a disk recovery company, and pay $2100 to have them get my data and send it to me on a USB drive. I learned my lesson for good this time and promptly bought a new Dell.

I have to deal with Dell customer service frequently at my job.

Only once have I ever gotten a White person on the phone! And he was Canadian! (nothing against Canadians) ]

You pretty much have to get their Gold premium customer service (it costs a little extra but if you EVER need to call it will save time and frustration) in order to talk to someone in Austin, otherwise you wind up talking to someone in India who you can't understand and can't understand you.

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Also, where do you get the idea that Dell's a jew. I've never heard that. And he's from Austin I believe. I don't think there are too many kikes from Austin.

You pretty much have to get their Gold premium customer service (it costs a little extra but if you EVER need to call it will save time and frustration) in order to talk to someone in Austin, otherwise you wind up talking to someone in India who you can't understand and can't understand you.

Problem is, I'm a tech fixing other people's systems. None of them have Gold service, and my company is not about to spring for it.

When I finally DO get through to their main line, and read them the service tag 12 times because they can't speak English and don't know the phonetic alphabet, then I have to tell them my name, which takes another 12 times, and then I have to explain that I am NOT the owner of the computer, I am just working on it, then finally we get down to business.

Of course that means they have to walk me through troubleshooting the problem, which I already did or I wouldn't be calling them! And then they have to get my email address....

This is not true, I've used Dells on and off for over ten years. I've always been able to easily upgrade them with RAM chips, sound cards, etc. from Walmart or anywhere else. Virtually every non-Dell computer I've had, has had a serious problem at some point which necessitated I replace it. While I've NEVER had such problems with any Dells I had. In fact, I recently had some build your own deal that my brother configured for me, as he is a computer science major, and after 8 months I had a non-recoverable hard disk error. The Best Buy Geek Squad charged me $500 to spend half the day trying to recover it, and determined that the circuit board on the HD was somehow shorted out and I wound up having to send it off to California to a disk recovery company, and pay $2100 to have them get my data and send it to me on a USB drive. I learned my lesson for good this time and promptly bought a new Dell.

1. Upgrading ram and adding sound cards can be done on almost any computer. So far dell hasn't changed the PCI and DDR interface YET.

2. Not sure what kind of computers you were buying that all had problems, but they sound like garbage. I maintain at least 5 which run rock solid over the years. I'm always able to easily upgrade them, and if a little problem ever does happen a quick replacement of the part with cheap online prices makes the whole situation barely troublesome.

3. The hard disk error is the manufacturer's fault. Dell doesn't make their own hard drives fyi. If it was a new hard drive from a good manufacturer such as Western Digital, then you can't blame that on that computer because the same exact thing could have happened to dell. Meanwhile if your brother bought some cheap unpopular brand or a Maxtor (they suck and die all the time), then you can blame that entirely on him.

There are 2 kinds of people in this world. Those who experienced hard disk failure and those who will. A dell will not help you in this case. If you didn't keep backups of your important data then that's what happens. I'd recommend you just get a dvd burner and you can go up to 8 gigs on the dual layered disks, should be plenty backup for non-warez type material.

Also, never order computer service from people who call themselves geeks and drive in beetles I would have refused to pay them 500 dollars for simply figuring ot the disk doesn't work, and kicked their ass out of my house instead if I were you. I or any other friendly computer tech/admin could have told you what the problem was for free if you would have asked.

JoeSixPack:
Funny that you mention raid drivers, that was the same damn problems I've had on the servers I had to work with. In my case the actual scsi raid loaded, but it was impossible to get the cdrom drive to work so I could install Linux on them. Why on earth should anyone have SCSI cdrom drives on a raid controller in a server? It's so much easier, troublefree, cheaper to just use an EIDE cd-rom drive. There are no benefits.