What do you mean "red scum" swept off the streets? Nothing happened.

I'll tell you what's dead, it's these membership organizations which are infiltrated, that's what's dead.

And while you're at it, ditch the mix-and-match 1930's Nazi uniforms. We will never get anywhere while paying tribute to some regime from 60+ years ago.

Hate Dept., if you truly feel that why then why do you have the emblem of a division of the Waffen-SS as your avatar?

As for Lone-Wolfism being dead...well, its not. A few rallies by the NSM doesnt exactly prove the superiority of membership orgs.

I agree the presentation is stale, moldy.

Look at the banner for VNN and that is how sharp and bright the colors of the uniform should be.

30 - 35 people? I counted 22 people from the pic I saw. Maybe more would've shown up if NSM weren't talking shit about other orgs and people in the WN movement.

I must admit that I get more than a little frustrated with the attendence numbers at WN events.

Is there a WN group/philosophy anywhere in North America that could put even 750 people on the streets for a protest? Even if given say, a year to prepare?

No answer needed guys, I am already well aware of the answer.

The only thing accomplished by a bunch of grown men demonstraiting in nazi uniforms is the further marginalization of our message, more shekels in the coffers of the ADL and SPLC.
There's a reason Dr. Pierce shunned such people

Lone Wolves is a typical cop out US type idea. We don't have or need "lone wolves". What we need is a mass movement that reaches mass numbers of people. In Germany, they tried terrorism; the autonome groups, Baader Meinhof, Action Directe and others. They all failed although their logic was not dissimilar to that espoused by Louis Beam and others. The IRA realised that their strategy would fail. In the USA, whether it be the Order, Black Guerilla family or whomever they have all failed. So don't repeat that defeat!

It wouldn't be so bad if these "lone wolves" had actually achieved something in the 14 years since the article by Beam was republished. A few kike deaths, or a few race mixers dead, or a few politicians taken out. But 14 years of hot air and no results? Meanwhile, the NSM hold a few rallies and make international news networks thus proving what your own Rockwell said about the power of the swastika and white men acting together.

A lot of work remains to be done. But how can you complain that "not many people were there" when you then say you were sitting at home watching the fucking thing on TV? Amazing, again. Too many US potential supporters are sitting at home. Why? Because of a few men in uniform? Because "they" might photograph you?

Do American niggers sit at home when the Nation of Islam demands their action in Washington? Do those hundreds of thousands of niggers worry about ideological or presentational differences? No, for the most part they stay united because when a black man meets a black man the most important thing to him is that he is meeting a brother.

Whites need to develop that sort of unity. Every racially conscious white must get out and join his or her local unit and when a local demonstration comes up they must join in. It is as simple as that. I said last week that as many as possible should join the NSM if they were doing a local event. Forget about small differences of ideology and policy.

We don't have time to waste on such nonsense. Get out, get active or get out of the way.

True the Nazi symbols won't get us anything.

Yes,I am aware that I have a SS Officers cap as my avatar.My relationship with the SS is ancestral not political.

The idea of the Third Reich images as BAD will continue on; far into the future, and will never attract the numbers we wish and -history will not repeat itself;AND history is very deceptive when place in the hands of those who would manipulate it; or foolishly devote themselves to ideals that were never intended to exist in the present day.

The entire Race/War/Poverty equation is very different.Germany had ;maybe, 3 million Jews in the 1930's.America alone, has over 100 million nonwhites.Even with the entire German Army at OUR command the Numbers simply would NOT work.No society on the planet today will allow US to retro fit culture to OUR WN desires.We MUST forge a NEW Separate WHITE Society with ALL NEW White designs,symbols and leaders.The past is gone and will never return.

That's why I liked and still do like Creativity;

http://www.rahowa.com/index.html

No religion
No Nazis
No compromises

Lone Wolfs-maybe;only because we keep destroying our leaders and we're mostly followers anyway.
Organizations-hopefully;if we can get past the traitors,informers and Neo Nazis.

Is there a WN group/philosophy anywhere in North America that could put even 750 people on the streets for a protest? Even if given say, a year to prepare? No answer needed guys, I am already well aware of the answer.

The answer is yes, provided several criteria are met:

1: No presence of Nazi iconography.
2: No tattooed skinheads allowed.
3: Normal civilian dress
4: Some "cheer squads" comprised of pretty uniformed females
5: A nearly even proportion of men and women in the march.
6: Children present (yes,that's what I said) Children
7: Ample vehicular transportation provided by volunteers
8: Financial backing of approximately 10 thousand dollars.

In aligning ourselves with the swastika we ally ourselves with an Aryan, tribal symbol that preceded the Judeo-Christian paradigm by thousands of years.

This resonates, albeit currently unconsciously, with all of those of Aryan blood.
As Kievsky mentioned once, we are HARDWIRED for NS and the swastika is a KEY to the program.

WLP, a good man, devoted about 35 years to building the NA, in all its incarnations.
His ADV broadcasts were inspiring and superbly done. He shunned the swastika, so after 35 years of hard work and having a music ministry the NA had, at its height, 1,500 members. Today it is moribund.

IN HOC SIGNO VINCES

"Do not write on your banners the word 'Victory': today that word shall be uttered for the last time. Strike through the word 'Victory' and write once more in its place the word which suits us better - the word 'Fight' !" - Adolf Hitler

The only thing accomplished by a bunch of grown men demonstraiting in nazi uniforms is the further marginalization of our message, more shekels in the coffers of the ADL and SPLC.
There's a reason Dr. Pierce shunned such people

I think the reason that NSM and the klan members like to wear nazi uniforms and white robes is to remind the enemy races of who we were. They want to scare them too. I think they do manage to remind them and scare the blacks and others about how things used to be when whites ruled.

I don't think it's overall a good idea though since other white people don't want to be associated with them, just regular clothes would work best to make whites relate to them. But knowing the other side is afraid gives me some good feelings though. That's why they carry on so bad about them, they're afraid of them. Itz terrorism.

30 - 35 people? I counted 22 people from the pic I saw. Maybe more would've shown up if NSM weren't talking shit about other orgs and people in the WN movement.

Todd,

I think we would have to go back a LONG way to figure out who started talking shit to who. NSM members are proud people who, against official NSM policy, feel to the need to defend their organization against the endless attacks thrown at it. All I know is the NSM invites and encourages ALL WN's to attend their Rallies. Why they choose not to do so is up to interpretation.

My gut feeling tells me that many WN's do not want to be seen in public around the Swastika, the Sieg Heiling, etc... For many WN's, their public activism embarrasses them because they still have one foot stuck in the propagandized, Judaized society that spawned them. I know that this does NOT apply to you, Todd, as your activism is courageous and beyond question.

DRC-NSM

Todd,

I think we would have to go back a LONG way to figure out who started talking shit to who.

You seem to miss my point.

1. While listening to a recent NSM radio show recorded with numerous NSM members there were numerous comments about National Vanguard not being active and their making fun of them and refering to KAS as too weak to even be active. While I might agree it is counter productive to say so on radio. It's like getting personal w/ fellow WN on trivialities. Not everyone can march in the streets. That's reality.

2. I would have willingly been at the march and brought at least 30 more people upon my behest had it not been for Bill White accusing me of informing on another WN. This is not true. I challenged him to back this up on VNN forum while he was here and he couldn't and refused to retract his statement. He alone has convinced me not to align myself with NSM... not the nazi uniforms. I wouldn't wear them but I sure as hell would've marched with a sign that says NUKE ISRAEL!!!

Too bad Bill White is ostracizing people from NSM and WNism in general. There are hundreds of people in Orlando, FL that I personally know that are sympathetic with the TAA paper. Not all would've shown up but if I could've brought 30+ then it's possible that more would've shown up at future events.

Ok Todd but how are we ever going to make progress under these circumstances? To me, the NSM is getting out there and doing a lot more than the stay at home types. A lot of the arguments against the NSM tactics make no sense as here at home in Germany we have the supposed "history of evil" of the Third Reich and we can get thousands onto the streets. Just imagine, Todd, if the friends of yours had made the effort.

A much more powerful symbol.

TAA is a great paper and obviously you have invested much emotional, physical and financial efforts in that direction but at some point these "hundreds" of awakened whites you speak of will need leadership, direction and, importantly, will have to make a stand. They will not be able to walk away. This seems obvious.

In Europe we stick together a lot more obviously than in the USA. We have to stick together, old and young, nationalist, NS, Christian and other "nordic" religions. We don't all agree but I cannot imagine not attending an event because somebody was rude to me or whatever. I just don't think the white race has time was for Klassen called "movement hubris".

I'm sure you see what I mean.