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Mishko Novosel
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Then who the fuck is going to step up and bring everyone together. I myself donated to the NSM yesterday, but there has to be some flexibility on everyones part. This God damn infighting is getting irritating.


I'm NOT a jew, I just play one on youtube.... :)

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Posted : 26/02/2006 4:58 pm
Quietus
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Then who the fuck is going to step up and bring everyone together. I myself donated to the NSM yesterday, but there has to be some flexibility on everyones part. This God damn infighting is getting irritating.

It seems like it is a popularity contest, like back in school. Maybe thats why schools are set up the way that they are. The class system instills in us different ideals and ways to approach problems and issues, so that we cannot work together to solve them.

I was glad to see the NSM out there marching, and that it was those opposed to them that got arrested. They would have done better to ignore the slurs and keep marching, showing the world how noble, how ARYAN, they can be.

You get more flies with honey than you do with vinegar!

Here is what I have been saying. We need a white migration to a predominately white area (which would displace and drive out the few muds that are there, and give the cities to the muds. If people feel the need for uniforms, let us design a new one. I have nothing against the swastika, but we would attract more whites to the NS cause without them. We we finally become a large enough cohesive force, we can then attack the problems we are facing as a race.

A house divided cannot stand!


"At every door-way,
ere one enters,
one should spy round,
one should pry round
for uncertain is the witting
that there be no foeman sitting,
within, before one on the floor." -Odin, from the Hávamál (Olive Bray's translation)

 
Posted : 26/02/2006 5:20 pm
 MW88
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I can only speak for myself. I come from an NS family dating back to NSDAP membership from 1929 approximately. I was brought up National Socialist and soon realised that the modern German movement was effectively run by NS and the older generation had led after 1945. Our leaders had in the first instance already shown their value in battle and stuck with the faith and honour given to them as such. After the war the authorities cracked down on the movement more than the US groups have had to accept.

Leadership is by example, by deed. It is based on your efforts within the movement and a selfless attitude, which is probably why there are so few leaders in America as Capitalism seems to encourage them to believe that leadership is a career choice. Or used to be.

A lot our leaders almost took a vow of poverty. A good start but they fought on the streets, in elections and from the prison cells in some cases. We had pre-existing structures perhaps and a community of educated people who understood Germany's place in Europe and her central role in the preservation of western culture.

The main push took place from the late 1980s and a more revolutionary "left wing" aspect was pushed by the leadership of the NS wing of the movement and later a concentration on the youth who were abandoned by capitalism in the Eastern Germany and in favour of immigrants.

A cheap answer is that unity of action is a place to start. The movement has common goals; the 14 words. From action comes leadership. Arrange monthly local activities on agreed goals. Build the movement from the bottom up, not the top down?

Another cheap answer is that your dire racial situation should panic the racially conscious into some type of unity and a lot more discussion on what can be done together. This doesn't seem to be happening and the very fact that a German NS activist is one of the few people challenging this lack of action must tell you something! There are many things that can and should be done but being active within the local community is very important and it soon becomes clear who is a useful leader type and who is not. Once you start taking action, in the streets or door to door, the losers, wasters, sit at home types soon drop out.

So forget the national problem for a while, comrade, hook up with people local to you (even if just a couple or a few), get the TAA newspaper, build your news delivery round, discuss things with your small band of comrades and develop links with local racially aware people, regardless of group.

That way you can be doing immeasurably important work on the ground which may give encouragement to whites everywhere. I hope this is of some use.


 
Posted : 26/02/2006 5:27 pm
Mishko Novosel
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It seems like it is a popularity contest, like back in school. Maybe thats why schools are set up the way that they are. The class system instills in us different ideals and ways to approach problems and issues, so that we cannot work together to solve them.

I was glad to see the NSM out there marching, and that it was those opposed to them that got arrested. They would have done better to ignore the slurs and keep marching, showing the world how noble, how ARYAN, they can be.

You get more flies with honey than you do with vinegar!

Here is what I have been saying. We need a white migration to a predominately white area (which would displace and drive out the few muds that are there, and give the cities to the muds. If people feel the need for uniforms, let us design a new one. I have nothing against the swastika, but we would attract more whites to the NS cause without them. We we finally become a large enough cohesive force, we can then attack the problems we are facing as a race.

A house divided cannot stand!

I agree with you 100% and this has been talked about here before many many times, and yet nothing changes. I do respect Von and the NSM, but the bottomline is that there is no fucking movement without a large enough body to support and back a movement.

You know what I'm just going to shut the fuck up because I have absolutely no idea who the players, if they have adgendas or if they communicate with each other... Once I get my finances in order I'll put my name in the hat, get involved and express my opinions in person......:D


I'm NOT a jew, I just play one on youtube.... :)

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Posted : 26/02/2006 5:31 pm
Quietus
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I agree with you 100% and this has been talked about here before many many times, and yet nothing changes. I do respect Von and the NSM, but the bottomline is that there is no fucking movement without a large enough body to support and back a movement.

You know what I'm just going to shut the fuck up because I have absolutely no idea who the players, if they have adgendas or if they communicate with each other... Once I get my finances in order I'll put my name in the hat, get involved and express my opinions in person......:D

If any rallies happen near where I live, I am going to do my best to attend, and mention these issues to pro-whites in person as well. We need strong, ARYAN leadership in order to unite us all!


"At every door-way,
ere one enters,
one should spy round,
one should pry round
for uncertain is the witting
that there be no foeman sitting,
within, before one on the floor." -Odin, from the Hávamál (Olive Bray's translation)

 
Posted : 26/02/2006 5:44 pm
Walter E. Kurtz
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You get more flies with honey than you do with vinegar! ....I have nothing against the swastika, but we would attract more whites to the NS cause without them.

That has to be one of the most useless statements ever conceived. While it may be true that you can catch more flies with honey, who the hell wants a bunch of dead flies?


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Posted : 26/02/2006 9:43 pm
Dies Irae
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The only thing accomplished by a bunch of grown men demonstraiting in nazi uniforms is the further marginalization of our message, more shekels in the coffers of the ADL and SPLC.
There's a reason Dr. Pierce shunned such people

This is correct. Unfortunately, there are far too many lemmings and know-nothings involved in WN.


"These were no soft-bellied, conservative businessmen assembled for some Masonic mumbodumbo; no loudmouthed, beery red-necks letting off a little ritualized steam about "the goddam niggers"; no pious, frightened churchgoers whining for the guidance or protection of an anthropomorphic deity. These were real men, White men, men who were now one with me in spirit and consciousness as well as in blood." -- Earl Turner, The Turner Diaries

 
Posted : 26/02/2006 11:16 pm
Quietus
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That has to be one of the most useless statements ever conceived. While it may be true that you can catch more flies with honey, who the hell wants a bunch of dead flies?

It was the first metaphor that came to mind.


"At every door-way,
ere one enters,
one should spy round,
one should pry round
for uncertain is the witting
that there be no foeman sitting,
within, before one on the floor." -Odin, from the Hávamál (Olive Bray's translation)

 
Posted : 26/02/2006 11:32 pm
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That has to be one of the most useless statements ever conceived. While it may be true that you can catch more flies with honey, who the hell wants a bunch of dead flies?

Officers usually have enough subtlety to understand metaphors, rather than taking them literally. A metaphor is not supposed to be asked to 'walk on all fours' (hold up from every literal angle imaginable), and you missed the point of this particular folk saying.

And I agree, you catch more flies with honey than vinegar. It means: You attract more people using positive and attractive elements than with edgy, negative baloney. It's a very useful statement indeed, "Colonel."


 
Posted : 27/02/2006 1:55 am
brutus
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Rockwell’s vision must have the opportunity to avail itself to it’s full potential and logical conclusion. We should support this noble effort.

And yet a Brother who chooses to be a LW must be respected today, because tomorrow he may knock at the door and be proven most worthy when he decides to reveal what has been his service to our race.

The chiding should be saved for the proselytizing efforts of new blood.


The ink of the learned is as precious as the blood of the martyr. For one drop of ink may make millions think.

 
Posted : 27/02/2006 3:05 am
Quietus
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I support any means that will allow us to prevail. In my experience, I get farther with an individual if I leave out the nazi imagery at first.

For example, a close friend of mine had a large amount of typical ZOG brainwashing. I started off with discussing how superior whites are to the other races. He quickly informs me that he "really doesn't like black people". I ask him if he could imagine his children having biracial children when they grow up (or even before, like in their teens, which is becoming more common). He didn't like the sound of that at all. So I was able to convince him of the benefits of segregation. We then covered racial statistics, and just who it really was that created civilization. Certainly not blacks.

Within a couple of days of starting this with him, I had him convinced of the truth of the jewish threat. I exposed him to things like the kosher tax, and other subtle ways that they mess with us. From there, he could finally see how they are pushing diversity among us, making us look like bafoons, etc.

This broke the ice, and I was able to bring up national socialism, and the nazi regime in Germany. I reminded him of our germanic ancestry, and how the jews tricked white people into killing each other, and how the jews created the situation in order to create Israel, and put us all in the situation we are in now. I reminded him that the winners of a war are the ones who write history, and covered most of the dynamics of the WWII situation with him.

So in the matter of a week, I got my friend to go from typical brainwashed xtian to WN to the beginning of accepting NS. If I had shoved the nazi imagery in his face right from the beginning, it wouldn't have worked, and our friendship would have been comprimised. ZOG has wired into most people that the "Nazi's were EEEEVVVVIIIILLLLL!!!!!!!" which is why you see all of these ignorant white people protesting NSM and other organizations.

This formula has helped me awaken a couple of other friends as well, and it gets them talking with other whites that I don't even associate with yet.


"At every door-way,
ere one enters,
one should spy round,
one should pry round
for uncertain is the witting
that there be no foeman sitting,
within, before one on the floor." -Odin, from the Hávamál (Olive Bray's translation)

 
Posted : 27/02/2006 6:47 am
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Rockwell’s vision must have the opportunity to avail itself to it’s full potential and logical conclusion. We should support this noble effort.

And yet a Brother who chooses to be a LW must be respected today, because tomorrow he may knock at the door and be proven most worthy when he decides to reveal what has been his service to our race.

The chiding should be saved for the proselytizing efforts of new blood.

I agree with you.
LW doesn't mean doing anything 'illegal', it means those who choose to educate our fellow Whites without any formal association with a group. This is also an honorable and effective means, but you cannot ONLY have LW, one needs an organization that can thereupon take the awakened person and put them to good and productive use. So while a LW proselytizer can educate newbies it is not enough, so each man and woman must do what they feel is most effective in recruitment.

As to the NSM in particular, I like the rank and file, those men and women who are out on the streets facing the hordes, waving our banner, the sacred symbol of our race. The leadership, to use that term, is another story.
The NSM awaits its Leader.


 
Posted : 27/02/2006 12:36 pm
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The answer is yes, provided several criteria are met:

1: No presence of Nazi iconography.
2: No tattooed skinheads allowed.
3: Normal civilian dress
4: Some "cheer squads" comprised of pretty uniformed females
5: A nearly even proportion of men and women in the march.
6: Children present (yes,that's what I said) Children
7: Ample vehicular transportation provided by volunteers
8: Financial backing of approximately 10 thousand dollars.

Europe's marches (Hess memorial, e.g.) get thousands, with everyone from skinheads to old farts participating.

My question is, why does America have no home-grown 'fascist' organisation? Why copy the Germans? It seems that freedom of speech makes Americans lazy. In Europe, where swastikas, etc, are banned, uniformed organisations march regularly. The black combat fatigues and black cap seems to be blazing a trail there. Sweden and Slovakia are two countries that've employed this style.
Why doesn't some hardline group just say 'America for Americans - coloureds out!' instead of complicating matters by waving a foreign flag?


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Posted : 27/02/2006 12:59 pm
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Europe's marches (Hess memorial, e.g.) get thousands, with everyone from skinheads to old farts participating.

My question is, why does America have no home-grown 'fascist' organisation? Why copy the Germans? It seems that freedom of speech makes Americans lazy. In Europe, where swastikas, etc, are banned, uniformed organisations march regularly. The black combat fatigues and black cap seems to be blazing a trail there. Sweden and Slovakia are two countries that've employed this style.
Why doesn't some hardline group just say 'America for Americans - coloureds out!' instead of complicating matters by waving a foreign flag?

All excellent points. Of course, the problem now in the Kwa is that the jew has essentially redefined what an "Amerikwan" is, so much so that Whites now more than ever actually believe "we're a nation of immigrants...":rolleyes:


The mob was heading in, to ransack and loot the apartments of the terrified old men and women. When the troopers arrived, M-16s at the ready, the mob threatened and cursed, but the mob retreated. It had met the one thing that could stop it: force, rooted in justice, backed by courage.-1992 Republican National Convention Speech, Houston, Texas, by Patrick J. Buchanan August 17, 1992

 
Posted : 27/02/2006 1:15 pm
Walter E. Kurtz
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Officers usually have enough subtlety to understand metaphors, rather than taking them literally. A metaphor is not supposed to be asked to 'walk on all fours' (hold up from every literal angle imaginable), and you missed the point of this particular folk saying.

And I agree, you catch more flies with honey than vinegar. It means: You attract more people using positive and attractive elements than with edgy, negative baloney. It's a very useful statement indeed, "Colonel."

No problem, and according to your reasoning, this metaphor would be even better:

"Hey, you can catch more niggers with a watermelon than with a pair of workboots."

Again, who'd even want a bunch of niggers?


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Posted : 27/02/2006 1:34 pm
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