Another thing to mention here: donate. Don't make future projects like this turn out to be a pain-in-the-ass for the people setting them up. Instead of sitting around tyring to score white-power points by saying who is Nazi and who isn't Nazi enough for you, take steps to make sure we have 12 of these memorials all across the nation by this time next year.

And to all the jews and their supporters reading this: sign of the times, kikes. The writting is on the wall, no pun intended.

What division of the Waffen-SS was he in?

An 87-year-old retired farmer and former SS member has erected a shrine to honor Hitler in the Wisconsin woods. TIME takes a tour. Will anyone else?

The setting is deceptively serene and inviting. Deep in the woods of southern Wisconsin, past the antique malls and strawberry fields of Highways 12 and A, a retired farmer stands above a pond and keeps watch over a dozen ducklings and geese. But hanging on a wall behind the gentle 87-year-old man, taped in white lettering on a granite façade, is a haunting welcome to a startling shrine. “Honorary Hall for Adolf Hitler: Before You Pass Judgment, Give Careful and Equal Consideration to Both Sides.”

This is Theodore Junker’s life’s dream — a temple of sorts that reaches up a high hill, with brick steps leading to a large landing where visitors can admire — or be repulsed by — Junker’s proclamations about “those German and other European heroes” who perished under the tyranny of “Allied persecution and genocide.”

Erecting a monument to one of history’s most reviled figures is only part of Junker's dream. In doing so, he also wants to teach the truth as he sees it: that Hitler did not start World War II and did not despise other races; that the Nazi regime was not a stifling dictatorship; and that there was no extermination of the Jews. If anyone suffered, Junker says, it was the Germans and the rest of Nazi Europe.

“How can it be that in America, today, when you can get papers, everything, just like that — how can it be that people don’t know the truth?” says Junker, who grew up in a German enclave of Romania and served in the Waffen-SS during the war, then came to the U.S. in 1955, worked as a janitor and handyman in Chicago and became a citizen some five years later. “I’d wake up in the middle of the night and it would hit me. Because for 60 years it was taught one way. I said a long time ago I would do something about it, but I was farming and never had the time. Now I have no fear and I can do this. I said, if I could bring seven people over to the truth, I will have succeeded. I have many more now.”

It took Junker three years and $200,000 of his own money to erect the memorial, which was completed rather quietly until it was noticed recently by the local papers. Not surprisingly, it has elicited a storm of outrage, so much so that the grand opening set for June 25 was canceled on Thursday after police warned that Junker, and his shrine, could be targeted. Sugar Creek Township Chairman Loren Waite calls Junker “a mixed-up old man ... I hope he’s just confused.” Jewish and anti-hate groups warn that Nazi sympathizers have been known to populate the heavily German areas of southern and southeastern Wisconsin, and decry Junker for rewriting history and teaching evil.

“If Hitler was so right, then why did [Junker] have to come over here to do this?” said Eileen Dempsey, 65, who lives just down the road from Junker. " We knew he had leanings and that he was putting up something back there. But we didn’t know the extreme. If Hitler was in control now, Ted wouldn’t be able to do what he’s doing now, to have the freedom to do it.”

Junker, whose own four children are split on his monument (his wife died in 1993), admits to the conflict. Among the first sights at the memorial is a large rendering of the First Amendment. Behind a vast concrete deck that looks over the pond and features a towering American flag is what Junker hopes will become something of a museum to Hitler. Inside, the vast room is sparse. A long table sits at the entrance and nearly empty bookcases rest against either wall; Junker plans to fill them with writings that illustrate his personal and political beliefs. But it is behind a curtain — one he until recently kept shut — that his real prize sits: a granite pedestal holding two portraits of Hitler, alongside a declaration that Hitler was a caretaker who united a great land and “provided direction for the future.”

Though the official opening has been called off, Junker insists the museum is open to anyone. Junker says he has no fear of being targeted, and that if he is attacked, he will gladly die an old man “who lived his life’s dream."

But who will actually visit his dream? Junker imagines both Nazi sympathizers as well as people who make the long trip to Sugar Creek simply to show how much they hate the idea of a Hitler museum. Either way, Junker says, he’ll greet them with his ready smile and firm grip. “This isn’t about hate,” he says. “Take hate out of it. It’s about understanding.”

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Sugar Creek Township Chairman Loren Waite calls Junker “a mixed-up old man ... I hope he’s just confused.” Jewish and anti-hate groups warn that Nazi sympathizers have been known to populate the heavily German areas of southern and southeastern Wisconsin, and decry Junker for rewriting history and teaching evil.

Loren Waite is a pathetic asshole. A thoroughly brainwashed lemming who will make decent landfill for that shallow trench out behind the building.

“If Hitler was so right, then why did [Junker] have to come over here to do this?” said Eileen Dempsey, 65, who lives just down the road from Junker. " We knew he had leanings and that he was putting up something back there. But we didn’t know the extreme. If Hitler was in control now, Ted wouldn’t be able to do what he’s doing now, to have the freedom to do it.”

Eileen Dempsey is lucky that she’s 65 years old. Otherwise, I’d call for her to be tossed into the trench along with Loren Waite. She’ll be lucky to get off with a lobotomy and kitchen duty.

Because the Jews unified a world coalition that destroyed the freedom the once proud Germans knew. That is why 75% of them are depressed.

“If Hitler was so right, then why did [Junker] have to come over here to do this?”

That's it, keep it private.

We are evolving, people. We are going to figure out how to have our own social community and bypass the kike, even if the kike tries to monkey wrench us.

RE: Professor of Racial Cleansing

There are several very good reasons not to do this:

1: This man owns a 43 acre farm, of which many who oppose his views would like to legally rob him of, leaving him a pauper. Having a hundred swastika-tattooed skinheads showing up on his property, blasting hate-core music (that the old German would neither understand and probably would think sounded like shit) is the quickest way to sic the jews, the town council, and the JTTF after him.

2: Bringing in Jeff Schoep's NSM boyz would be like pouring gasoline on a fire - just plain stupid.

3: Finally, today's "Nazis" lack the panache, hard-muscled discipline that typified the authentic Waffen SS. Do you really think someone like THIS is going to impress Herr Junker if he shows up giving his black-power salute?

My advice: pay Herr Junker's memorial a visit, even leave a donation. But don't ruin the man and get his property taken away from him by having a bunch of shittily-dressed Nazi clowns show up, blasting shittily-performed hate-core music.

Are we take this to mean that you would prefer to isolate the NSM from an authentic source of information regarding Nazis?

If this is so, then how, pray tell, do you expect the Brothers of the NSM to become better acquainted and more authentic champions of Nazism? This would seem like a golden opportunity for the gentlemen of the NSM to be taught, right from the horse’s mouth, doesn’t it? And it looks like a golden opportunity for genuine modern Nazi sympathizers to give their heart-felt accolades to a living legend.

We've noticed that you are very critical of the NSM, and that's your prerogative, but why would you object to them becoming better Nazis? Don’t you want them to try to better educate themselves to Nazism by learning from the best teacher, possibly the best teacher on the planet?

And just who in the world do you think would give Mr. Junker the appropriate respect for his efforts?

I’m certain that the members of the NSM who requested a viewing, would commit themselves to nothing less then to the utmost of respectful decorum, that would be befitting such a distinguished and honorable war veteran.

People will rise to the expectations that we have of them. And I would expect the NSM to give an exemplary display of behavior that would make Mr. Junker proud to know that Fuhrer Hitler’s legacy lives on in the hearts of such devoted young men.

I think that it would be a crime for the NSM to overlook the chance to meet Mr. Junker, for time draws nigh. Remember, he is 87 years old.

Brutus: I think that it would be a crime for the NSM to overlook the chance to meet Mr. Junker, for time draws nigh. Remember, he is 87 years old.

Brutus, the NSM can do whatever it wants. But both you and I know that if droves of stormtrooper-clad NSM roll through town on their way to Herr Junker's farm, they're going to draw the media like flies to cow shit. And with news copters nowadays, and zoom lenses, the media doesn't even have to trespass on Junker's property to get an eye-ball full of very damaging (to Junker) news footage.

My only point was this: if the NSM should decide to visit, keep it low-profile. Arrive in civilian clothes and then (if Junker permits) the NSM can don their stormtrooper uniforms inside his closed-door museum. And, before they leave, remove and stow them into nylon carry bags. Isn't this sensible? Otherwise, the NSM could really, really hurt this old guy, and cause him to lose everything he has, if not get him deported straight to Israel for a war crimes trial.

One more thing: I lived in Germany for a brief time - as a civilian - and got to talking with this older German at a small pub outside Frankfurt. Foolish or not, considering the Thought Police that roam Germany nowadays, I asked him if he was around during WW2. It was pretty clear by how old he looked that he was a young man back then, and, yes, he admitted he had served in the German army. He was totally unapologetic, and was eager to tell me of those times, even though I was an American. A nice guy, really. Very polite, as anyone who's ever visited or lived there will attest. But...polite or not...he was proud he had served the Third Reich and I replied with approving comments.

My opposition to modern-day Nazism doesn't mean I hate Germans, or the glorious things Hitler accomplished back then. It just means that American Nazis just don't make the grade, and do more harm than good for the WN cause. My opinion, yes, but, as country singer Colin Raye sings, "I'm stickin' to it".

The Memorial needs a display to point out the differences between George W. Bush and Hitler. Like Bush is for Jew Power and Hitler was against Jew Power, and maybe that would put an end to media darlings mixing the two up, as in the last paragraph, below:

Custodians of chaos

In this exclusive extract from his forthcoming memoirs, Kurt Vonnegut is horrified by the hypocrisy in contemporary US politics

Saturday January 21, 2006
The Guardian

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"Do unto others what you would have them do unto you." A lot of people think Jesus said that, because it is so much the sort of thing Jesus liked to say. But it was actually said by Confucius, a Chinese philosopher, five hundred years before there was that greatest and most humane of human beings, named Jesus Christ.
The Chinese also gave us, via Marco Polo, pasta and the formula for gunpowder. The Chinese were so dumb they only used gunpowder for fireworks. And everybody was so dumb back then that nobody in either hemisphere even knew that there was another one.

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We've sure come a long way since then. Sometimes I wish we hadn't. I hate H-bombs and the Jerry Springer Show
But back to people like Confucius and Jesus and my son the doctor, Mark, each of whom have said in their own way how we could behave more humanely and maybe make the world a less painful place. One of my favourite humans is Eugene Debs, from Terre Haute in my native state of Indiana.

Get a load of this. Eugene Debs, who died back in 1926, when I was not yet four, ran five times as the Socialist party candidate for president, winning 900,000 votes, almost 6 percent of the popular vote, in 1912, if you can imagine such a ballot. He had this to say while campaigning:

"As long as there is a lower class, I am in it.

"As long as there is a criminal element, I am of it.

"As long as there is a soul in prison, I am not free."

Doesn't anything socialistic make you want to throw up? Like great public schools, or health insurance for all?

When you get out of bed each morning, with the roosters crowing, wouldn't you like to say. "As long as there is a lower class, I am in it. As long as there is a criminal element, I am of it. As long as there is a soul in prison, I am not free."

How about Jesus' Sermon on the Mount, the Beatitudes?

Blessed are the meek, for they shall inherit the Earth.

Blessed are the merciful, for they shall obtain mercy.

Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called the children of God.

And so on.

Not exactly planks in a Republican platform. Not exactly George W Bush, Dick Cheney, or Donald Rumsfeld stuff.

For some reason, the most vocal Christians among us never mention the Beatitudes. But, often with tears in their eyes, they demand that the Ten Commandments be posted in public buildings. And of course that's Moses, not Jesus. I haven't heard one of them demand that the Sermon on the Mount, the Beatitudes, be posted anywhere.

"Blessed are the merciful" in a courtroom? "Blessed are the peacemakers" in the Pentagon? Give me a break!

It so happens that idealism enough for anyone is not made of perfumed pink clouds. It is the law! It is the US Constitution.

But I myself feel that our country, for whose Constitution I fought in a just war, might as well have been invaded by Martians and body snatchers. Sometimes I wish it had been. What has happened instead is that it was taken over by means of the sleaziest, low-comedy, Keystone Cops-style coup d'état imaginable.

I was once asked if I had any ideas for a really scary reality TV show. I have one reality show that would really make your hair stand on end: "C-Students from Yale".

George W Bush has gathered around him upper-crust C-students who know no history or geography, plus not-so-closeted white supremacists, aka Christians, and plus, most frighteningly, psychopathic personalities, or PPs, the medical term for smart, personable people who have no consciences.

To say somebody is a PP is to make a perfectly respectable diagnosis, like saying he or she has appendicitis or athlete's foot. The classic medical text on PPs is The Mask of Sanity by Dr Hervey Cleckley, a clinical professor of psychiatry at the Medical College of Georgia, published in 1941. Read it!

Some people are born deaf, some are born blind or whatever, and this book is about congenitally defective human beings of a sort that is making this whole country and many other parts of the planet go completely haywire nowadays. These were people born without consciences, and suddenly they are taking charge of everything.

PPs are presentable, they know full well the suffering their actions may cause others, but they do not care. They cannot care because they are nuts. They have a screw loose!

And what syndrome better describes so many executives at Enron and WorldCom and on and on, who have enriched themselves while ruining their employees and investors and country and who still feel as pure as the driven snow, no matter what anybody may say to or about them? And they are waging a war that is making billionaires out of millionaires, and trillionaires out of billionaires, and they own television, and they bankroll George Bush, and not because he's against gay marriage.

So many of these heartless PPs now hold big jobs in our federal government, as though they were leaders instead of sick. They have taken charge. They have taken charge of communications and the schools, so we might as well be Poland under occupation.

They might have felt that taking our country into an endless war was simply something decisive to do. What has allowed so many PPs to rise so high in corporations, and now in government, is that they are so decisive. They are going to do something every fuckin' day and they are not afraid. Unlike normal people, they are never filled with doubts, for the simple reason that they don't give a fuck what happens next. Simply can't. Do this! Do that! Mobilise the reserves! Privatise the public schools! Attack Iraq! Cut health care! Tap everybody's telephone! Cut taxes on the rich! Build a trillion-dollar missile shield! Fuck habeas corpus and the Sierra Club and In These Times, and kiss my ass!

There is a tragic flaw in our precious Constitution, and I don't know what can be done to fix it. This is it: only nut cases want to be president. This was true even in high school. Only clearly disturbed people ran for class president.

The title of Michael Moore's Fahrenheit 9/11 is a parody of the title of Ray Bradbury's great science-fiction novel Fahrenheit 451. Four hundred and fifty-one degrees Fahrenheit is the combustion point, incidentally, of paper, of which books are composed. The hero of Bradbury's novel is a municipal worker whose job is burning books.

While on the subject of burning books, I want to congratulate librarians, not famous for their physical strength, who, all over this country, have staunchly resisted anti-democratic bullies who have tried to remove certain books from their shelves, and destroyed records rather than have to reveal to thought police the names of persons who have checked out those titles.

So the America I loved still exists, if not in the White House, the Supreme Court, the Senate, the House of Representatives, or the media. The America I loved still exists at the front desks of our public libraries.

And still on the subject of books: our daily news sources, newspapers and TV, are now so craven, so unvigilant on behalf of the American people, so uninformative, that only in books do we learn what's really going on.

I will cite an example: House of Bush, House of Saud by Craig Unger, published in early 2004, that humiliating, shameful, blood-soaked year.

In case you haven't noticed, as the result of a shamelessly rigged election in Florida, in which thousands of African-Americans were arbitrarily disenfranchised, we now present ourselves to the rest of the world as proud, grinning, jut-jawed, pitiless war-lovers with appallingly powerful weaponry - who stand unopposed.

In case you haven't noticed, we are now as feared and hated all over the world as Nazis once were.

And with good reason.

In case you haven't noticed, our unelected leaders have dehumanised millions and millions of human beings simply because of their religion and race. We wound 'em and kill 'em and torture 'em and imprison 'em all we want.

Piece of cake.

In case you haven't noticed, we also dehumanised our own soldiers, not because of their religion or race, but because of their low social class.

Send 'em anywhere. Make 'em do anything.

Piece of cake.

The O'Reilly Factor.

So I am a man without a country, except for the librarians and a Chicago paper called In These Times.

Before we attacked Iraq, the majestic New York Times guaranteed there were weapons of mass destruction there.

Albert Einstein and Mark Twain gave up on the human race at the end of their lives, even though Twain hadn't even seen the first world war. War is now a form of TV entertainment, and what made the first world war so particularly entertaining were two American inventions, barbed wire and the machine gun.

Shrapnel was invented by an Englishman of the same name. Don't you wish you could have something named after you?

Like my distinct betters Einstein and Twain, I now give up on people, too. I am a veteran of the second world war and I have to say this is not the first time I have surrendered to a pitiless war machine.

My last words? "Life is no way to treat an animal, not even a mouse."

Napalm came from Harvard. Veritas

Our president is a Christian? So was Adolf Hitler. What can be said to our young people, now that psychopathic [neocon] personalities, which is to say persons without consciences, without senses of pity or shame, have taken all the money in the treasuries of our government and corporations, and made it all their own?

Though I do admire this ex-SS officer exercising his free speech (what little of it America has left) I just don't buy this claim at all. Hitler's Nazi Party went out of their way to portray jews as "untermensch" (sub-humans) and that is well-documented. Also, I've seen other Nazi-era books with photographic illustrations comparing Nordic Germans with African niggers in the clearest terms showing what is undeniably a "racist comparison".

So all power to Herr Junker. I support what he's doing, belated though it is. However, to say that Hitler and/or The Third Reich were not "racist" in their views and policies is simply untrue. Yes, I know, I know, they had non-white Jap allies, but that was strictly for strategic purposes to sidetrack as many of America's military forces away from Europe and to the South Pacific. And yes, the Nazis worked with the shit-skinned Arabs to some extent - but that was also for strategic purposes, what with Rommel down there occupying their deserts, he certainly didn't need to have trouble with them while also fighting Allied forces at the same time and the superiority of the White race.

But Hitler not a "racist"? I'd like to know who here believes he wasn't?

Perhaps what Herr Junker is saying is that the common conception of the "racist Hitler" - the mouth-foaming, carpet-chewing, genocidal maniac we've all been taught he was - is just a myth. Hitler may have been racist according to today's multi-cult values, but so were 99% of White people back in Hitler's time. So the term racist wouldn't apply to Hitler in the contemporary sense. Early in the 20th century racism was still the norm and there was nothing aberrant about acknowledging differences between the races and the superiority of Europeans over other races.

Hitler was a very astute politician and a civilized man. Many other National Socialists, such as Julius Streicher, could be considered more radical racists than Hitler ever was. Hitler tried his best to restrain the S.A. during Kristallnacht and expressed regret and disappointment that the Brownshirts had been allowed to get out of control. He allowed many part jews to serve in the Wehrmacht. He was no more racist than any other common man of his time.

Eichmann: So the term racist wouldn't apply to Hitler in the contemporary sense. Early in the 20th century racism was still the norm and there was nothing aberrant about acknowledging differences between the races...

I'll have to disagree, at least in regard to America. Racism as we would define it today was recognized as such during the pre-war years here in the USA, mainly by Jewish elites and liberal whites. In other words, our notion of "racism" today did indeed exist as the very same notion back in the 1930's, and so, even before the outbreak of WW2, Hitler's regime was viewed by much of the world as "overtly racist" in its political views and, as such, was not considered "normal", at least by American standards.

Yes, Americans too were racist, but our brand of racism had to be largely kept in check, because, unlike the Germans, we not only had Jews, but millions of negroes and other non-whites, such as Asians and Mexicans living and working amongst us. Negroes "knew their place" back then, and as long as they kept it, they were usually left alone. Germans could hate niggers more openly, however, because they had no fear of race riots. Americans, on the other hand, did have good reason to fear being overtly racist towards negroes, which, in the case of the 1921 Tulsa, Oklahoma race riot, actually happened:

Furthermore, unlike the US government, Nazi Germany's government produced tons of overtly racist propaganda, like this still image taken from a Nazi propaganda film clearly denouncing jews, nigzz, and rag-headed arabs as racially inferior to whites. So, for Mr. Junker to say that the Nazi regime - or Hitler - was "not racist" is simply wrong, as Germany's own racist propaganda shows.

The big difference between American and German racism boils down to this: Mr. Junker lived in a society were "racism" was part and parcel of not only German common folk, but also woven into the very machinery of the German government itself. Since it was "everywhere" in Germany, it would have appeared to Herr Junker as something so "matter-of-fact" that - for him at least - it would have indeed appeared "normal". Germans had no worries, remember, that any German cities would suddenly flare up with nigger riots like we Americans did.

Thus, in the USA, racism existed almost entirely amongst the common people, known and recognized, but kept quiet, except for the occasional lynching. The clear difference was that our own US government wasn't churning out "hate jews" and "hate niggers" pamphlets, books, and film media for the American populace, as Hitler was doing for the Germans. So, was the Third Reich "racist" by today's terms? Hell yes it was! And that's why comparing German racism to American racism during those years is difficult, since the social circumstances between the two countries were vastly different.

RE: PRC

So, for Mr. Junker to say that the Nazi regime - or Hitler - was "not racist" is simply wrong, as Germany's own racist propaganda shows.

When I read that Mr. Junker had said that Hitler was not a racist, the first thing that crossed my mind was that the filthy jew was making up a lie and printing it. They’ve been know to do that.

Hitler didn’t persuade German’s to join his cause because he hated jews or anyone else. Hitler promised a better future, a better way, a better system. And he delivered.

Of course Hitler was a racist by today‘s definition of the word, but that aspect of his platform wasn’t key to winning the hearts of the German people. And it wasn’t emphasized in most of the propaganda.

Most of this so-called hating done by Hitler has been lies perpetuated by the jews and shoved down everyone else’s throat via the jew-controlled media, during and subsequent to the war.

Hitler would have had great difficulty gaining any followers if all he promoted was hate. This is the very reason why the jew incessantly calls White Nationalists haters. They know that the masses naturally ostracize haters and they use that natural inclination very effectively against us, by branding us as haters every chance that they get. However, the jew will counter this obvious point by saying that Hitler was only a good leader in the beginning and then after a while he turned into an evil madman. This is just another in a series of lies soundly refuted by our living racial treasure, Mr. Junker, and by all of the other good Germans loyal to Hitler’s memory after the war. And also lest we forget, by us.

My grandparents, as well, have said essentially the same thing as Mr. Junker. They moved from Germany to the US in the mid-1930s. They’ve said that when they lived in Germany, everyone there loved Hitler and that everything seen in the American movies was a crock. But they were not outspoken with these sentiments. They were made to feel ashamed of being German. They spoke about these things only to family. As a matter of fact, my grandmother lost her job as a high school German teacher and afterwards would only speak German to my grandfather. Even as a young boy, I knew from a very early age that the holocaust had to be BS because my grandparents were wonderful people, incapable of the evil as everyone on TV was saying.

I think this is great that this wonderful man has and is willing to share the truth with us.

Could the person who talked to him pm me the phone number as I would like to call him and set up a time to visit him and see this great memorial.

Thank you.

Interesting thread, it exposes the kikes on this forum who try to pass as Aryans. The kikenvermin simply can't control itself when Hitler is involved and their hate comes bubbling over.

By today’s standards a racist is anyone who is proud of their “white” heritage and wants to preserve it. By that standard Hitler was a devout racist. However if you define a racist as some hate filled person intent on destroying another race, Hitler was far from that. If he had been we would have a lot less Jews in the world today. Instead of slaughtering the Holy six figure Hitler preserved them and allowed them to leave Europe.

If only Hitler had been a hardened racist like many would have been led to believe, then the Jews wouldn’t have survived to go to other countries and turn them against Germany.

RE: PRC

When I read that Mr. Junker had said that Hitler was not a racist, the first thing that crossed my mind was that the filthy jew was making up a lie and printing it. They’ve been know to do that.