Maybe the guy is Italian or just got back from a cruise to the Bahamas. I don't know the guy's genetics.

Neither does the NSM, most likely....

Apparently you guys haven't seen too many Third Reich photographs. There were countless men, especially in the Waffen-SS, who do not look Nordic in the least. That is looking at authentic photographs.

As far as criticizing the N.S.M., all I can say is... "Don't join." Anything beyond that and you are engaging in what the Party deemed "Jewish corrosive activity" or "grumbling".

I agree with Brutus's post. I would only add to it that poking fun at the "Nazi's", whom no one will stick up for, is what mainstream society does for fun. So in a way, you're no better than you're average lemming on the street. I've just started coming to this sight in reccent days. Some of you seem like good comrades, some seem more like bored office workers than White Nationalists.

Just one more thing...food for thought... to about 95% of society, we are ALL pathetic freaks, and if the A.T.F. busted through your door and emptied an MP-5 into your back while you're typing away, most of society would think you had it coming... no matter if you're in uniform or not.

That fat boy with the specs still looks like he could murder his own mother....

That guy doesn't look like a mud to me...Hell, he isn't even looking directly into the camera. THERE ARE NO MUDS IN THE ORGANIZATION

On the question of salaries: On a previous show Commander Schoep stated he did not recieve a salary for his work. As far as I know NO ONE gets a salary for their work. I also stated that I do not recieve any salary for my activism for the NSM.

As far as membership numbers: Even if I had the exact figures I wouldn't share it. Period. It is counterproductive.

.........Just one more thing...food for thought... to about 95% of society, we are ALL pathetic freaks, and if the A.T.F. busted through your door and emptied an MP-5 into your back while you're typing away, most of society would think you had it coming... no matter if you're in uniform or not.

On the contrary, if that happens to me, my heirs will file a wrongful death lawsuit for millions in damages, win, and that would be just the beginning.

Dont make the mistake of thinking that we're all as dejected and run down and impotent as some. Some who feel empowered by dress up. When I dress up it's in the real uniform of power- I nice blue suit.

If you want real power, open your eyes and think. Dont give in to marginalization.

The bottom line is this- if you emulate the NSDAP in any fashion, you are emulating FAILURE. Their activities are simply a way to create the illusion of conflict and struggle in a safe manner. They draw a lot of attention and then brag about this as though it is odd that uniformed Nazis would create a stir on an American public street.

When I look at the NSDAP I don't see failure. I see a vast, complex organization that was the most innovative government in the 20th century and perhaps beyond. The fact that you are calling them a "failure" because the nation was defeated militarily puts you in the same boat as the lemmings who say that "If the Nazi's were right why did they lose?".

As I have said in my first post, I don't think the N.S.M. should be much more than a private fraternal order to preserve the ideology and martial traditions. But to call the Party itself a failure because of Germany being turned into an ashtray is a stretch. Those people got a hell of a lot farther with bullets flying than we have over here battling the Jews and their mouths.

If I want to see "FAILURE" I'll look at the "movement" over here today.

When I look at the NSDAP I don't see failure. I see a vast, complex organization that was the most innovative government in the 20th century and perhaps beyond. The fact that you are calling them a "failure" because the nation was defeated militarily puts you in the same boat as the lemmings who say that "If the Nazi's were right why did they lose?".

As I have said in my first post, I don't think the N.S.M. should be much more than a private fraternal order to preserve the ideology and martial traditions. But to call the Party itself a failure because of Germany being turned into an ashtray is a stretch. Those people got a hell of a lot farther with bullets flying than we have over here battling the Jews and their mouths.

If I want to see "FAILURE" I'll look at the "movement" over here today.

It is correct that the modern day "movement" is a complete failure, and contrasted with the NSDAP there is almost no comparison. A major reason for that is that the NSDAP had standards and took on responsibilities and issues that are too "boring" for many movement types. However, ultimately the NSDAP failed because it was for most of its existence a German nationalist movement rather than Pan-European. Though it is remarkable that they began to rectify their outlook, Hitler's inability to foresee a united European continent was the source of Germany's downfall. National Socialism NEEDED to be exported, in the same manner that Communism was. How could a nation with almost no domestically produced natural resources take on most of Europe without TRUE ideological allies rather than theocratic/status quo Fascists clinging on to the power of a real ideology?

I agree completely. There were Nationalist organizations that sprang up throughout Europe (on their own) contemporary to the Third Reich but it wasn't untill the Germans started suffering military setbacks that they tried recruiting for the Waffen-SS and Heer foreign legions. Too little, too late.

When I look at the quality of humans your average German man was during the 1930's and 40's compared to today's American man, as far as being tough, self-disciplined, community-minded, and industrious/mechanically inclined, it gives me little hope for our cause because it seems like if they couldn't pull it off with those guys we certainly can't with what the movement has now.

I guess one thing on our side is that while our cause don't have much to work with as far as personel resources, your average American isn't much better, and rapidly declining.

Maybe that's why Dr. Pierce originally had that "Cosmotheist Community" idea. He thought that people like us could remove ourselves from society, build these more or less isolated communities, and strive to improve once again. All the while society declined, and when it collapsed, we could emerge as leaders. That's a very crude synopsis of the Cosmotheist Community from what I have been told by a man that was up there when it was just Pierce pretty much.

I agree completely. There were Nationalist organizations that sprang up throughout Europe (on their own) contemporary to the Third Reich but it wasn't untill the Germans started suffering military setbacks that they tried recruiting for the Waffen-SS and Heer foreign legions. Too little, too late.

When I look at the quality of humans your average German man was during the 1930's and 40's compared to today's American man, as far as being tough, self-disciplined, community-minded, and industrious/mechanically inclined, it gives me little hope for our cause because it seems like if they couldn't pull it off with those guys we certainly can't with what the movement has now.

I guess one thing on our side is that while our cause don't have much to work with as far as personel resources, your average American isn't much better, and rapidly declining.

Maybe that's why Dr. Pierce originally had that "Cosmotheist Community" idea. He thought that people like us could remove ourselves from society, build these more or less isolated communities, and strive to improve once again. All the while society declined, and when it collapsed, we could emerge as leaders. That's a very crude synopsis of the Cosmotheist Community from what I have been told by a man that was up there when it was just Pierce pretty much.

The issue we need to solve is that of the compartmentalization of the white man's life. Our culture has been divided amongst religion, politics, economy, etc. When we think of improving our race we do it through some kind of ideology- National Socialism, White Nationalism, etc. As much as we need an ideology it is only a stop-gap, we cannot rely on some collection of politcal terms to change our race in the long run. We must look to Asian cultures, particularly the Japanese, to see the type of social restructuring that is required. Everyone knows that Germany in the 30's and 40's was a National Socialist state- National Socialism being the leading ideology of the time. But how to people describe Japan? It wasn't Fascist or National Socialist, it didn't really have a political ideology whatsoever. It's impressive campaign, a Pacific equivalent of Germany's work in Europe, was derived from social ideas and traditions that had been preserved for centuries. You cannot say that Japanese were following some kind of ideology- they were merely being themselves. And today, it is clear that Japan has changed less from its WW2 state than Germany.

We must try to build that kind of consciousness where our values are not simply derived from religious dogma or political ideology, but rather we internalize those values and they become an essential part of our being. This must be encouraged to the point where being white is not simply a matter of genetics and heritage, but also behavior, mindset, and values as well. Our ideology must evolve into a sort of second nature.

RE: JP

We must look to Asian cultures, particularly the Japanese, to see the type of social restructuring that is required. Everyone knows that Germany in the 30's and 40's was a National Socialist state- National Socialism being the leading ideology of the time. But how to people describe Japan? It wasn't Fascist or National Socialist, it didn't really have a political ideology whatsoever. It's impressive campaign, a Pacific equivalent of Germany's work in Europe, was derived from social ideas and traditions that had been preserved for centuries. You cannot say that Japanese were following some kind of ideology- they were merely being themselves. And today, it is clear that Japan has changed less from its WW2 state than Germany.

The Asian's immunity to the jew infection is mostly because the jew does not resemble Asian people, and therefore the jew has been unable to successfully infiltrate and destroy their culture.

However, the jew never stops probing, ever looking for a way into Asia.

That guy doesn't look like a mud to me...Hell, he isn't even looking directly into the camera. THERE ARE NO MUDDS IN THE ORGANIZATION!QUOTE]

I submit evidence that the NSM has MUDDS in it's membership. Von Bluvins isn't your name really Blevins ? Because, Blevins sounds semetic to me.

Here's a link to a gallery f non-white members of the NSM. There's even non-whites who allied with the NSM. One Creator in Joliet, IL unit is a 1/2 mexican. He was adopted and brings his white girlfriend to NSM rallies. It's very disturbing when our supporters show up to events and find a 1/2 mexican with a 14yr old white girl standing there holding flags and signs for the NSM. Again, all these pictures are from right off their own website.

Imagine the pictures that didn't make the website?

http://www.geocities.com/nsm_1488

 

Just because you say someone is a mud doesn't make it so, dean.

Whether "muds" are not, this is the fate that awaits NSM members after a WN take-over of America...

RE: JP

The Asian's immunity to the jew infection is mostly because the jew does not resemble Asian people, and therefore the jew has been unable to successfully infiltrate and destroy their culture.

However, the jew never stops probing, ever looking for a way into Asia.

Well it also has a lot to do with the fact that Asians did not adopt a religion that began as a sect of Judaism. In fact they for the most part adopted Aryan religions of Hinduism and Buddhism.