I agree with keeping muzzies in muzzy lands. They aren't bent on world domination like jews are, but will clamour to change their living environment (like Europe) to suite their needs.

But like with many "immigrants / refugees", why come to a country that is not receptive of your ways and then expend energy to change them. If not complied, violence often ensues.

A small example is the jew removing "Christ" from "Christmas"....because as you know, Christ was one offensive guy.

I agree with keeping muzzies in muzzy lands. They aren't bent on world domination like jews are, but will clamour to change their living environment (like Europe) to suite their needs.

Here I would have to disagree Wodjanoj, and say that they very much have world domination on their minds. I have read too much about their religion, which perfectly lends itself to extremes and we have all seen how they will riot and burn and kill over such things as cartoons and remarks from pope.
I have heard it said that their invasion of western homelands is an invasion by the womb, and this I would have to agree. They could not defeat us on any battlefield but rather they know we are wel lcapable of defeating ourselves and of course they will take advantage of this.
As I said, it is my thought that I think nearly all muslims would be perfectly happy to see us all dead or turned into a faceless raceless mush of mongrels and to take over our lands and either convert what is left or kill us off.
They do not have the problems we do with the brutalness to meet their goals, and for this I must say I do slightly admire.
I am actually against violence unless it is really needed, and it seems to me that at a time soon, yes it wil be really needed to match our enemys, jews and muslims alike, who have no problem using it against us.
These are my thoughts, and I thank you for yours.

The only evidence I have seen about muzzies becoming uppity is stuff like Chechnya and Kosovo.....annexing themselves from the host country (Russia and Yugoslavia) and declaring themselves a muslim state. That I can see needs to be dealt with.

However Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan and whatever are happy within their borders. They do not have the military might to attack other countries, but have enough to maintain civil wars within their boundaries. The reason the US is inclined on dominating these countries are for izzy's securtiy and having control of resources.

Canada, who is in Afghanistan fighting the Taliban (after a feeble decleration of war on them) really are doing it for the USA's favour. How are the Taliban a threat to Canada? How is Canada going to lose money buy pulling out of there and not continue warring with Taliban. If the Taliban want to take back power of their country, let them. As long as they don't bring that stuff, here, I could care less about it there. Let alone having Canadian soldiers die there for so-called "freedom" and "anti-terrorism".

Notice that even though 9-11 is a entity that is mostly Saudi Arabian (bin laden family, 90% of highjackers), why hasn't an invasion occured there yet?

Sure.
Is is Muslim's that have our country embroiled in two wars, at a cost of 3,000 American lives and $500 billion?
Is it Muslims that created the "1965 Chain Immigration Act"?
Is is Muslims that control the abortion and pornography industries?
Is it Muslims that through the use of TV and motion pictures brainwash our women to breed with savages?
Is it Muslims that are responsible for the deaths of 100 MILLION WHITE lives in two world wars?
Was it Muslims who starved and murdered roughly 50 MILLION whites in Eastern Europe (Ukraine)?
Was it Muslims who brought about the Civil War, (I honestly don't have a body count)?
Was it Muslims who attacked the U.S.S. Liberty?
Was it Muslims who sold secrets to the Soviet Union?
Was spy Jonathan Pollard a Muslim?
Are the ADL or SPLC a Muslim orgs?
Were Muslims the founders and first seven heads of the NAACP, ACLU,Yuppies, SDS and every other commie org in the USA for the last 100 years?
Was it Muslims who shot JFK?
Your turn to think.

Good points. Let me add one more:

Was it Muslims who bombed Dresden and other German cities back into the stone age?

Hello Holly!

I'm still in Germany and we have more than Turks to deal with but might I say firstly welcome to the forum and how encouraging it is to have young woman voicing her obviously intelligent and thoughtful comments.

My only life advice to you is to keep it white and my second piece of advice is to do more in life to keep it white than you might be tempted to do on the Internet. This can be an unforgiving place but from what you say you can handle it!

88! Mike W

Hello Holly!

I'm still in Germany and we have more than Turks to deal with but might I say firstly welcome to the forum and how encouraging it is to have young woman voicing her obviously intelligent and thoughtful comments.

My only life advice to you is to keep it white and my second piece of advice is to do more in life to keep it white than you might be tempted to do on the Internet. This can be an unforgiving place but from what you say you can handle it!

88! Mike W

Yes and thank you for the welcome. Am new here but WN/WP since birth and for life.
The Turks were my first racial awakening from a very early age that something was not right, so I am glad for the experience. I lived in Stuttgart and Günzburg until we left for overseas.
I am strong with my convictions and core values yes, but I do not try to put myself in the position of saying I know alot, because I do have much the learn even though at times I think I don't. So as knowledge is power, and power is freedom, I look to get as much as I possibly can from any source.
I can handle myself here, my problem is that if I get backed into a corner I do not sit down but come out kicking and scratching, which can get you in trouble in these forums I have found out.
So I try to behave and not look for trouble, but if trouble does find me, I do not walk away from it.
Thank you for the note of hello, and I do look forward to knowing you and others here better. Weiß Ist Recht 88

I don't now what's worse, FOX News or Stormfront or the parrots of the jew's anti-Muslim agenda on this thread.

The simple question that one must "truthfully" answer is;

[color="Red"]"Who told you that Muslims are bad people?"

Now I will sit back and watch the word-contortionists try to tell me that it wasn't the jew who put all that misinformation into their heads.

Yawn...Yeah I know! You've seen Muslims behaving badly with your own eyes...blah, blah, blah.

Well, what do your own eyes tell you about these pictures?

Amin Al Husseini spends WWII by Hitler's side.

Amin Al Husseini meets Heinrich Himmler, Head of Nazi SS.

Muslim soldiers with hat showing Nazi insigna- WW II.

A bunch more pictures HERE

Sure.
Is is Muslim's that have our country embroiled in two wars, at a cost of 3,000 American lives and $500 billion?
Is it Muslims that created the "1965 Chain Immigration Act"?
Is is Muslims that control the abortion and pornography industries?
Is it Muslims that through the use of TV and motion pictures brainwash our women to breed with savages?
Is it Muslims that are responsible for the deaths of 100 MILLION WHITE lives in two world wars?
Was it Muslims who starved and murdered roughly 50 MILLION whites in Eastern Europe (Ukraine)?
Was it Muslims who brought about the Civil War, (I honestly don't have a body count)?
Was it Muslims who attacked the U.S.S. Liberty?
Was it Muslims who sold secrets to the Soviet Union?
Was spy Jonathan Pollard a Muslim?
Are the ADL or SPLC a Muslim orgs?
Were Muslims the founders and first seven heads of the NAACP, ACLU,Yuppies, SDS and every other commie org in the USA for the last 100 years?
Was it Muslims who shot JFK?
Your turn to think.

Steves absolutely right to all the new sock pupets springing up we know the score here and it smells like jewish power trying to run our white countries into the ground,.There are plenty of White muslims. As for all the non white muslims they have a right to their culture and folk ways they can't adapt to White culture nor should we expect them to. But the jew will try to use them and any colored peoples he can to cause race mixing and war against they White Aryan race as the jews shock troops and foot soldiers in their attempt to destroy Aryan civilazation.

The only evidence I have seen about muzzies becoming uppity is stuff like Chechnya and Kosovo.....annexing themselves from the host country (Russia and Yugoslavia) and declaring themselves a muslim state. That I can see needs to be dealt with.

Well I would think there are more examples, when you look at the Algerians rioting in France, the radical circles in all European counties but especially maybe Deutschland and England, and we have our brothers and sisters dealing with the same problem is Australia mostly from Lebanese from what I understand.
So it seems it is not so much groups of muslims in certain areas wanting to make themselve sinto a state that is the biggest problem but rather the foreign populations already in western lands, and growing ever larger and more radical, that is the major threat from my view.

However Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan and whatever are happy within their borders. They do not have the military might to attack other countries, but have enough to maintain civil wars within their boundaries. The reason the US is inclined on dominating these countries are for izzy's securtiy and having control of resources.

I think you may be right here with possibly excepting Iran, which I think wil lwant to dominate the area by force and threats - If it was you, would you not want to do the same ?
Many people knew in advance that by removing Sadaam it would make Irans power much greater, and so it did.
Sadaam was a counter to Iran, take away that counter and what do we have ? A struggle to fill the vacant power, and we can see the results may not be too good for our intrests there if the radical shit-ites or whatever they call themselves there gain much power.

Canada, who is in Afghanistan fighting the Taliban (after a feeble decleration of war on them) really are doing it for the USA's favour. How are the Taliban a threat to Canada? How is Canada going to lose money buy pulling out of there and not continue warring with Taliban. If the Taliban want to take back power of their country, let them. As long as they don't bring that stuff, here, I could care less about it there. Let alone having Canadian soldiers die there for so-called "freedom" and "anti-terrorism".

Well you are of course correct here. Canada has no fight with Afghans.
But to look at it from another way, they are part of NATO, NATO is a group, and the whole uh ... Organizeation[?] is only as strong as it memebers will be.
I hope this makes sense ... So if Canada will say no, we won't go, it would weaken the whole group of NATO and would danger its usefulness as a group.
I am not saying I agree or disagree with this, but it is something to consider.
Another thing too I think is that at times some countrys want to engage in these actions to test out some of their military in battle conditions.

Notice that even though 9-11 is a entity that is mostly Saudi Arabian (bin laden family, 90% of highjackers), why hasn't an invasion occured there yet?

Well yes, such is terrorism is that it is not made by the state, but so called stateless groups.
Yes, if the King of the Saudis would have ordered 9/11, much of Saudi Arabia I am sure would be a parking lot now, so it is not too easy to blame goverments for the actions of certain people.
I do not know how far people here go with the thoughts of 9/11 being the work of the CIA and jews, but for myself I do beleive the terrorsits groups from there were and are a danger, and the right thing to do is hunt them down like disease rats and put them down.
No matter of the reasons they might want to harm us, if they blow us up we must blow them up in return, 100 for 1 and maybe more. I think its about time we show what white people will do when we get mad, and I think it will be a lot more than the brown world can take - If only we can get the PC group of whites to the side.

Take care and thanks for the thoughts - I hope I have done the quotes right it has been a long time since I did them.

Well, what do your own eyes tell you about these pictures?

This is not 1930-40s Germany. This is a very good point that was made in the beginning of the thread. People look to all of our answers in the past. Things change with time and we are living in very different times.

Just because something was right then does not mean it is right now or fits with our present situation. Make no mistake about the fact that I believe these people should be left alone in their own countries, but as for forming alliances with them(which would create a situation where people would trust them?)no. A lot of stuff you hear about these people is hyped, no doubt, but they are not harmless. This is a somewhat dangerous assumption.

The best way to preserve peace is to be prepared for war and to stay out of wars that are none of the nation's business.

Well yes, such is terrorism is that it is not made by the state, but so called stateless groups.
Yes, if the King of the Saudis would have ordered 9/11, much of Saudi Arabia I am sure would be a parking lot now, so it is not too easy to blame goverments for the actions of certain people.

The united states has way too cozy of a $$ relationship with the Saudi royals for anything like that to happen.

I don't now what's worse, FOX News or Stormfront or the parrots of the jew's anti-Muslim agenda on this thread.

So then, the muslims must be well liked, and those who don't are victims of jew propaganda ?
I do not like the sound of those words, and that to me sounds like a reverse jew tactic of labeling.
If you have a point, maybe then you can make it without the insults ?
You, brutus, are considered an infidel by the nice muslim freinds. They would as soon see you, your family dead, and your country taken over by a religous riot, than not. You and me and all of us here being called infidels is not a compliment.
It is in fact to compare us to dirty dogs needing conversion or death, and for that I do not beleive for one second it is the jew boogeyman behind this, not not at all. The religion of islam lends itself perfectly to extreme and the largest degree of hate to everything that is not them, as the way its founder intended.
That includes jews, and that includes us. It is only the jews that are the subject of the most hate because they had a jew homeland planted in the heart of arab lands. Besides that, I do beleive they hate us just as much.

You know about the history of muslim invasion of white lands in ancient times, which I am only now starting to learn of. You know of the crusades that followed, and pushed islam back east. You know of the present invasion by womb of all western lands by muslims, and you know that these people do not wish to blend into the host contry, but dominate.
And all of this is just imagination ? It is being misled by jews that these nice freindly people who call us dirty dogs are really our freinds, if only we open our eyes like you ?
I do not think so. I don't know about where you are from, here in this part of the USA I am in it is overloaded with muslims. They do not live right around me no, but you cannot go into any store or down many streets without seeing them, dressed from head to toe in black with only the eyes showing.
And they look at me like what am I doing here ?
A pure Nordic, in a white homeland, and I am made to feel the stranger ?
And this is the type of people you want living right next store to you ?
They are as white as my dogs crap most of them.
No, they need to go back where they belong, to an arab/muslim homeland, and then we wil lget along just fine.
And your pics of AH with an old muslim man are nothing.
Obviously, Der Führer would use for his purpose anyone he could in his struggle for survival of the Reich ... And do you really think that AH of all people would welcome with open arms the foreign muslim invaders into the heartland of the great western nations, least of all Deutschland?

I am sorry if I am over aggresive here in my opinions to you - Most here I would think would not take it kindly to be called a jew parrot.
There are issues to discuss fine, discuss without the personal attacks and I will do the same, gladly.
Take some looks at this http://www.truthandgrace.com/muslimmadness.htm
Some which no doubt may be propaganda, jewish or otherwise.
It has some things to think about, and I think you set yourself into a trap when you can look around and blame the jews for everything that may be wrong.

Even if people believe that every single problem with the muslim world can be placed solely on the jew(just like every other problem or event that ever happens) does this change the fact that many of them would like to see us all dead? All includes everyone who is posting on this board. They are not going to give a shit or even know that, for instance, Momus "names the jew":p and they are not going to make an exception for you.

they are also spreading out in Europe with certain ideas and plans of their own. But people would choose to overlook this since they honestly believe the only thread is from the jews and without the jews everything would be great. This is nothing more than a very delusional fantasy, for which I will be called a kike, stupid, or brainwashed, for stating, since VNNers have the own rules about how to use their form of political correctness, as do others.

So then, the muslims must be well liked, and those who don't are victims of jew propaganda ?

Actually Holly, most of us realize what you are saying, its just that the "hate Muslim" rhetoric is a tactic used by jews to get the Whites to go kill the enemies of Israel. Whites and Muslims (or Arabs) die fighting each other while the jew stands by watching and laughing. Ever since the Crusades the jews have been duping us into fighting the Muslims for them. Heck, maybe if Israel didn't have the latest U.S. high-tech weaponry, we could sit back and watch a Middle Eastern version of WWII. Immigration is a symptom, JEW is the disease.
If you need proof of this tactic, just read Hitler Goddess' post immediatly before this post. I'd bet over half of VNN believe HG to be one of the tribe.

RE: HG

This is not 1930-40s Germany.

I know that, I’ve got a calendar.

This is a very good point that was made in the beginning of the thread. People look to all of our answers in the past. Things change with time and we are living in very different times.

There is nothing new under the sun and those who are ignorant of history are condemned to repeat it......I could go on and on with this triteness but I’ll stop here to say, that when someone makes a point on a forum thread, that doesn’t necessarily make that point valid to the degree that it negates the original premise.

Just because something was right then does not mean it is right now or fits with our present situation.

Nor does it mean that it isn’t right either.

Make no mistake about the fact that I believe these people should be left alone in their own countries, but as for forming alliances with them(which would create a situation where people would trust them?) no.

What do you know about the Muslim’s trustworthiness that Hitler failed to see?

A lot of stuff you hear about these people is hyped, no doubt, but they are not harmless. This is a somewhat dangerous assumption.

An ally is an ally, and in this case an ally is not our kin. We are big enough to know the difference and to interact accordingly.

Having said all of this, my question highlighted in red was not answered. Where have you gotten your impression of Muslims? I will not scoff at you if you tell me that most of your knowledge has come from the main stream media. This is where most of us learn about world events. All I’m trying to say, stating what you already know, is that we must be careful when we make assumptions based on what we’ve heard from the media. The jew’s disinformation methods are devious, incessant, overlapping and have been going on for decades. It’s no crime to admit that we’ve been following a false flag.

The bottom line is that the Muslim may not be our Brother, but they should be our supported ally in this global war with the jew.

Actually Holly, most of us realize what you are saying, its just that the "hate Muslim" rhetoric is a tactic used by jews to get the Whites to go kill the enemies of Israel. Whites and Muslims (or Arabs) die fighting each other while the jew stands by watching and laughing. Ever since the Crusades the jews have been duping us into fighting the Muslims for them. Heck, maybe if Israel didn't have the latest U.S. high-tech weaponry, we could sit back and watch a Middle Eastern version of WWII. Immigration is a symptom, JEW is the disease.
If you need proof of this tactic, just read Hitler Goddess' post immediatly before this post. I'd bet over half of VNN believe HG to be one of the tribe.

SSTEVE, I am anti muslim and anti jew.
If this in your mind makes me a kike, I really do not care what you think.
As you did say, I would be very happy to watch them smash eachother to peices.
I do not see people who label us a dirty dogs and teach their children from birth to despise us and spit on our culture and heritage as freinds.
Are you a muslim steve ? If no, how do you like being thought of as a dirty dog my your muslim freinds ?
That is what infidel means to them, yes it does. You do not beleive in their allah , and becuase of that, your fate is conversion or death.
And for this, the jew is not to blame.
The muslims are, from birth, inspired to hate with passion any infidel, any who do not bow down to mecca 4 times a day or whatever it is.
Does the jew take advantage of this situation to use it for their own ends ?
I would bet so, but in this case the jew would be the symtom, and muslims the disease.
As far as HG's post above, I agree with every word so put me in the same boat.
I do not know who and what you take you lead from,
but I want no part of any WN that has muslim worship at its central part.
We should use them for our own ends, trust them as much as trusting a hungry dog around your steak dinner, and leave it at that.
Bottom line for me, I have said before I will say again - A muslim in a muslim land is just fine with me.
The problems start when they invade my homelands, and on this there is no middle ground. Whether it jews or green aliens from Jupiter that are the cause, I do not want them here.
If it realy is jews fine, lets work at the solution [final hmmm] .. But I don't see the need to kiss muslim butt in the time in between.
I dont need a jew to get me to hate them.
I can see these foreign aliens gabbling their monkey talk all over my area.
Can you ? Do you want brown people dressed from head to toe in black with only their eyes showing as your new neighbors ?
Ha, you can have them then, please take them away.
And God yes, they do smell. They do not beleive in deoderant or bathing, I can tell you that for a fact.
Well ,we seem to mix like fire and water on this subject, so I guess it will be left at that.