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Of course, Ultima Thule! Come on, though the singer ain't perfect their music is good; The Beast, and Ragnarök ... ahh, to be a teenager again and listen to Thule!
Yep, I used to listen to Ultima Thule and Wagner and Beethoven and Springsteen and The Corrs ... bet I had the most varied CD rack in the whole town. 
The Beast is one of their most famous songs. I think I made a pretty good translation:
Hör bestens vrål
Eka vilt, slå hål
Genom märg, och ben och betong
Den ylar efter mat
från allt mindre fat
Hunger efter makt i dess sång
It always reminds me of summertime, 'cause that's when I first heard it. I think they did a lot more for nationalism in Sweden than any other people during the nineties; helped many people decide to get active. I wish there were nationalist music as good as theirs in the U.S., to help American kids see the light. There is some, but not enough.
Posted : 05/05/2004 6:22 pm
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.....East Europeans will move to the west in large numbers, overwhelming the welfare systems, causing the unemployment rates to go way up, and increase the drug smuggling and the street crime even further. ..........
I see nothing wrong with countries using a common currencey which is proven successful, common military establishments for the purpose of defending the continent from invaders and other positive structures, but Swedes have no business residing in Yugoslavia if they do not integrate there and love the land and culture. Yugoslavs have no business residing in Sweden under the same criteria
Posted : 06/05/2004 3:35 am
Swedes have no business residing in Yugoslavia if they do not integrate there and love the land and culture. Yugoslavs have no business residing in Sweden under the same criteria
Yes, those would be absolute prerequisites. Those, coupled with the implied notion of only taking in the most needed people - in terms of competence and usefulness - and even then only in very small numbers. To get them to come over in the capacity of mere Gastarbeitern would be preferred, of course.
Sound the loud timbrel,
O'er land and o'er waves;
The Israelite triumphs!
The nations are - graves
Posted : 06/05/2004 8:20 am
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The common currency is a stupidity. Before the referendum last year a Swedish anti-EMU organization interviewed eight Nobel Prize winners in economics, and seven of them said it would be best for Sweden to keep the crown. Only one was positive to the euro, but that was a guy who does work for the European Central Bank, incidentally.
Without your own currency you can't have an independent interest policy; you can't use the interest rate or the money supply to affect such things as inflation, investment, exports, imports, consumption and production. Naturally you shouldn't overdo it and use these tools, interest rate and money supply, too much, but they are two important tools that you need in your pocket.
What happens when a country has to adjust to an interest rate that has nothing to do with its own economic situation? It is forced to create the same economic situation as all other EMU members -- in other words, the members are forced to coordinate their economic decisions so that the interest rate and money supply will fit them all. And they are doing exactly that. This affects all political decisions in a country. The sinister purpose with the European Monetary Union is to push the member states even farther toward a superstate, where independence has been abolished. The EMU is an anti-nationalist project.
Let us not forget, also, that the psychological effect of having a common currency might do even more anti-nationalist damage than the practical effects. When you have the same currency and the same flag and a "capital" and Beethoven's 9th symphony is the "national anthem" of the Union, politicians can say: "Don't stand in the way of progress. Increased power to Brussels is inevitable -- resistance is futile! Look, we even have the same currency! So go along with this latest anti-nationalist decision of ours, stupid backwater Swedish peasants."
Thank Oden Sweden voted no to the euro last fall. Did you all notice the nervous debates that followed? "A blow to the federalists", and so on. The EU rests on loose soil; there are people who love their countries, but noone loves the EU. There are people who are prepared to die to defend their fatherlands, but noone is prepared to die for a bureaucratic monstrosity, the only purpose of which is to destroy nationalism in the name of "peace" and "democracy".
I have never believed for a second the existence of the EU will last my entire lifetime. The acceptance of so many Eastern states, whose politicians think way more nationalistic and are way less likely to "play along" in Brussels for the sake of anti-nationalism, countries that only joined to get economic advantages but don't share any "visions", may very well cripple the entire project.
The day when the first country leaves the EU may not be so far away. In a time of economic difficulties a smart politician may decide that the cheering crowds on the streets when he announces the country will leave the Union are well worth the economic and political punishment Brussels will impose on his people; and that punishment, which is inevitable, will only serve to make the EU even less popular.
So in closing: death to the Union! Death to the New World Order! Hail the Europa of the patriots! Hail the rebel cause!
*takes a bow and steps down from the podium*
Posted : 06/05/2004 12:00 pm
EU = Rob the rich to pay the poor countries into wealth, while flooding the former with the citizens of the latter. Fucking Morroco wants a piece of the EU pie, that's how legitimate the European Union is! I'm not sure that East European countries should be part of the EU, never mind money-grubbing, Islamic, never-been-Western-before-so-why-bother-now Turkey. Fuck Brussels and the anti-free speech, anti-culture, pro-shitskin fences that launder European soil from their seat of power. Fuck Robespierrism. Off with their heads, the anti-death penalty, pro-paedophile, one-race, blood-lapping tapeworms. The European Union's 'vision' is of a never-ending bowel from which to feed off. Flush 'em, before we get the Euro version of the FBI/Mossad (that is, if Mossad itself doesn't actually take every dissident out.)
'At the end of his life he organized a financial offering for the poor in Jerusalem [Jew city] from the gentile churches he had founded.' - St. Paul [Jew], Oxford Companion to Class. Civ.
Posted : 06/05/2004 12:22 pm
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Quote WNP:
...Gypsies, Jews and mudslims. Eastern Europeans know how to deal with scum, they will get the red carpet treatment here.
TH:
I’ll roll out the red carpet if they teach us how to deal with the scum
Quote FH:
Let us not forget, also, that the psychological effect of having a common currency might do even more anti-nationalist damage than the practical effects.
TH:
Or in reverse if the coins all had Swastikas on them again. He He. Seriously, if this were to be union of White nationalist states under White nationalist conditions, I don’t see much of a risk
Quote FH:
What happens when a country has to adjust to an interest rate that has nothing to do with its own economic situation? It is forced to create the same economic situation as all other EMU members -- in other words, the members are forced to coordinate their economic decisions so that the interest rate and money supply will fit them all. And they are doing exactly that. This affects all political decisions in a country. The sinister purpose with the European Monetary Union is to push the member states even farther toward a superstate, where independence has been abolished. The EMU is an anti-nationalist project.
TH:
If I may, I’ll use your argument to irrationalize the US Dollar which centralized monetary decisions in Washington D.C., whereas each individual state had their own currencey, prior to this.
As the backing of the Dollar with gold became abolished, Americans began losing their savings as the Federal Reserve began manipulating the value of the currencey to artificially increase exports of big corporations at the expense of the common citizen
Quote FH:
The common currency is a stupidity. Before the referendum last year a Swedish anti-EMU organization interviewed eight Nobel Prize winners in economics, and seven of them said it would be best for Sweden to keep the crown. Only one was positive to the euro, but that was a guy who does work for the European Central Bank, incidentally.
TH:
I’m sure you wouldn’t mind if the Krone were to be used as the common currencey, instead of the EURO
Quote Nordblod:
To get them to come over in the capacity of mere Gastarbeitern would be preferred, of course.
TH:
You do mean the opposite. Don’t you?
Posted : 07/05/2004 10:23 am
Doesn't it mean "guest worker"? If I were to choose between someone promising to return home within a few years, and another proclaiming his intent to stay for the rest of his life, then naturally I'd go with the former.
Sound the loud timbrel,
O'er land and o'er waves;
The Israelite triumphs!
The nations are - graves
Posted : 07/05/2004 12:25 pm
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I’]He meant that the Gypsies, Jews and mudslims would get the red carpet treatment, I think.
Or in reverse if the coins all had Swastikas on them again. He He. Seriously, if this were to be union of White nationalist states under White nationalist conditions, I don’t see much of a risk
Little risk, and I would accept it as a "war mode", a temporary thing to fight the common enemies, and get things back on track. But then I'd want the peoples to run their own countries again; we are too different to all live in the same state, and the conflicts in racial peacetime would be endless. It would be like making different families live under the same roof; they're better off living as neighbors and getting together for a juicy steak and some good beer in the weekends.
Mmm, beer....
As this kind of discussion tends to come back to the Third Reich, I'll say that I think the empire would have been broken up sometime in the future, since there would have been too much permanent trouble. But I certainly don't fault Uncle Wolf for trying to create an empire in Easter Europe; it is a perfectly natural part of the human spirit to expand your territory. Easterners as well as other Westerners than the Germans have done the same in Europe, and I don't fault any of them, just as I don't fault those who resist an invasion.
But I digress.
If I may, I’ll use your argument to irrationalize the US Dollar which centralized monetary decisions in Washington D.C., whereas each individual state had their own currencey, prior to this.
Interesting; since I read lewrockwell.com I have learned a lot about the Fed, but I have never heard that there were different dollars in the states back in time. When did the centralization occur? Late 1800s, perhaps?
I’m sure you wouldn’t mind if the Krone were to be used as the common currencey, instead of the EURO
Yes, I would; sure, it would be adapted to our own economic cycle, and other countries would have to prop up our currency no matter how much money was produced to keep consuming voters happy, but it would be bad for the other White countries.
Speaking of Europe and nationalism, what's up with J-M Le Pen visiting the BNP? And I heard he went on a trip to nationalists in Hungary, though I don't know anything about them. The BNP are anti-kike, whereas Jean-Marie is pro-kike, right? He even has Schnauzers in the Front. Odd Brit-France friendship, then.
And on another note, it just occurred to me that this thread should have been in the Euro section. Bad Georgie, contributing to the habit of putting everything in the Main Discussion room!
Posted : 10/05/2004 4:33 am
I don't think it was mentioned, but don't you all wonder that the creation of the European Union is more of a way to compete against the United States and soon China on an economical level? Of course its driven by greed, but I don't see the USA staying on top for too long. I'm just pointing our the obvious motivaton to this "state"....and of course the consequences have been mentioned.
"Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him...." ------ John 8:44
Posted : 10/05/2004 6:16 am
I’ve got a neighbor on the ground floor who’s nosy and has nothing to do all day except snooping around and keeping tabs on the apartment neighbors.
She’s annexed the apartment garden without asking any apartment neighbors and grows edibles in there. I’ve got a garden across town where these “Maulwurfsgrillen” (mole crickets?) or “Werren” (I don’t know what they’re called in English) sabotage my crops. They make sounds similar to crickets, have a similar head, but have paws that are constructed like those of moles. They reach more than 2 inches, fully grown and live underground, of course. They’re more or less as contemptable as snails to gardeners. What I ended up doing with them at capture, is to put them in a bucket or jar and bring them home to dump in my neighbor’s annexed garden. Using your principal, the enemy of my enemy is my friend or as I like to put it:
My mortal enemy is now my best friend: http://www.faunistik.net/DETINVERT/ENSIFERA/gryllotalpidae.html
Posted : 10/05/2004 8:06 am
I’] http://www.faunistik.net/DETINVERT/ENSIFERA/gryllotalpidae.html [/url]
Sorry folks, didn't mean to confuse any1 further. I attempted to answer this thread:http://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?p=56129#post56129 
Posted : 10/05/2004 8:17 am
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I don't think it was mentioned, but don't you all wonder that the creation of the European Union is more of a way to compete against the United States and soon China on an economical level? Of course its driven by greed, but I don't see the USA staying on top for too long. I'm just pointing our the obvious motivaton to this "state"....and of course the consequences have been mentioned.
Yes, there were many reasons for its creation, and the socialists and conservatives had their different arguments. The right wanted to facilitate trade by agreeing on minimum requirements for goods, so they would be allowed in all member countries, and by coordinating the bureaucratic machinery involved in international trade, and so on. This was done, but I guess they forgot to tell their voters the EU would also collect huge sums of money for a great tug o' war, where a great deal if not most of the money becomes subsidies to prop up sucky agriculture in Spain, Portugal and the like. The socialism in the Egalitarian Union is weighing heavier by the day, and the liberal trade stuff is no match for it.
Creating a common market with barriers against US products was a big idea in France, where they always hate the English-speakers. Remember that de Gaulle vetoed the entrance of Great Britain in the European Economic Community, the forerunner to the EU, once upon a time. Sticking it to the US wasn't such a big thing in Sweden, showing that the arguments varied not only between left and right but also from country to country.
In Sweden, the right was excited by the EU for a reason never stated on television, but it was still the main reason: I know, because it caught me too. By brainwashing the people through the state-controlled schools, and a radio and television monopoly, the ruling socialist party has stayed in power for seventy decades or so, only occasionally interrupted by the opposition. Their corrupt, incompetent rule is motivated only by greed, jealousy and hatred of their betters, nothing else. The right, naturally, desires an escape from this sick bunch, and saw the EU as a savior.
By joining the EU the socialists would be tied by international laws; the other parties in Brussels, even the socialist ones from other countries, would be far better than the criminal junta in charge here. So the right willingly gave up its national independence in the hope of escaping tyranny, but they have only traded one tyranny for another. As BrightonWNP mentioned, the EU has a lot of has-beens in it, and at any rate it is just a gigantic, anti-nationalist entity that always craves more power, like every bureaucracy.
Posted : 10/05/2004 6:35 pm
When Fredrik says "seventy decades", he actually means seven.
Sound the loud timbrel,
O'er land and o'er waves;
The Israelite triumphs!
The nations are - graves
Posted : 10/05/2004 7:53 pm
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When Fredrik says "seventy decades", he actually means seven.
Of course.
I was going to write seventy years at first. 700 years would be a bit long even for the SweSoc in Airstrip North. (Or would it........?)
Time for nationalism in all of Europe! Time for secession! The anti-Life policies have been going on long enough. Hail the rebel cause!
Posted : 10/05/2004 8:12 pm
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The Enlargement means that hordes of East Europeans will move westward looking for better-paid jobs, better welfare systems, and Germanic women. Oops, sorry if I'm stepping on some pan-Aryan toes there. Guess we all have our taboos against political incorrectness, even among nationalists. But just to make sure that I have hammered it in:
Fuck the East European scum.
It's not enough that the drug trade in Stockholm is all but controlled by Slavic gangs already. Reinforcements are on the way. The Balkanese and Arabs have done a good job mugging and raping so far, but why rest before all of Sweden is destroyed?
Only a few countries are without transition rules, which stop some of the worst parasites. Several Swedish parties wanted similar rules, but the morons couldn't get along -- they all voted against each other, and together with the parties that just can't wait for the flood to begin this made sure the gates are wide open. Of course, in those countries that do have transition rules the only difference is that it will take a little longer for them to be invaded by Easterners, since none of the rules are permanent.
Damn, the Swiss, Icelanders and Norwegians are looking smarter by the day. Keep their asses outside the EU, let your country stay sovereign -- what an innovative idea!
The Eastern countries have to accept some liberal laws, such as giving buckets o' doe to the Gypsy vermin. They accept this without complaint, knowing that a thousand money rivers will open from the west to the east now. A Czech living in Sweden reported that the debate in Czechia about whether or not they should join the EU was all about how much money they would make. No moral barriers whatsoever against robbing Germanics blind -- after all, the Romanic countries have been parasitizing off the Germanic back in the EU all this time, so why shouldn't the Slavs be allowed to share the loot? And funnily enough, those being the most reluctant to let the Slavs in were the Spaniards & co., who knew they wouldn't be alone in fleecing the North anymore. Tough break. Makes me glad to be a Germanic man, for I seem to be the only one who has nothing to complain about -- I know this, because the government tells me so.
But wait, maybe the Slavs won't move westward by the millions? Let us consult an expert on the subject, President Kennedy, who stated: "Let us be clear on what this law will not mean. It will not mean a million Mexicans moving to America each year." Immigrant Act of 1965 -- with such comforting precedents, maybe we won't have to worry about the Enlargement after all.
It will be hilarious to watch the chaos the new members will cause in Brussels, when the Slavic countries all vote completely nationalistic, caring only about themselves where Germanic countries are used to a spirit of compromise in the name of nation-destruction. "It will paralyze the legislative and executive branches", wise voices say, and the voices are right. Then they call for the abolition of national vetoes, and slimmer, less democratic decision-making processes, to make sure that new laws can be passed without too much fuss. This will happen. The EU constitution is only one step in this direction, and whether or not it passes really has no significance in the long run. Eventually Brussels will control all. "We couldn't get anything done the old way", teachers will tell the children in the classroom, first in one language and then in three other.
But wait, surely the European nations will always be treated as separate nations? Just like the American states have always been treated with dignity. I mean, it's still "these United States", right?
When Turkey joins, as it surely will, the plan will be complete. Then Germanic countries can stop being selfish, stop shipping money to the Romanics and Slavs only. The Mongoloids want their fair share, so quit hogging the wealth, racist Whitey! 68 million Turks, most of them young -- wonder how many will stay in the desert, and how many will move to get a piece of White ass to rape?
Now, I don't want to be insensitive. I shouldn't imply that the Slavic countries, which I really should call just East European countries to be Correct, are full of ugly, criminal parasites planning to live off Germanics and gang up on our kids in the school hallways. I should join the pan-Aryan program, shut up and bend over.
Maybe.
But it's the Slavs that behave un-Pan-Aryany, not me. We Germanics aren't taking anything from them. We aren't planning to rip off their countries either. They are planning to do that to us, and have already started. So excuse my un-PC attitude. Maybe I'm not so happy-happy when I see how the nationalist efforts of self-sacrificing Swedish patriots stand to be swept away in future elections by 1,000,000+ Slavic voters come across the pond, in the trail their drugdealers have already blazed. Can't help it, it's that unreconstructed bastard in me, rebelling against grand-sounding schemes again.
Perhaps it will get better when I'm out of college and unemployed, my job handed over to some Arab, Turk, Croat or Pole in accordance with the quotas. Then I'll have time to watch state-controlled news on television and learn how to be a good, loyal EU citizen. We'll see!
The Western European ambitions to expand eastward have always been at the expense of the Slavic Nations. All Slavic nations have been viewed by their European neighbors as being in their way, as being in the way of their ambitions to expand eastward. WW2 was a very obvious and a very open attempt to destroy the Slavs. Today you use quite a different strategy: to integrate Slavic countries into your filthy associations and to exploit Slavic national resources and to use Slavs as a cheep labor after you create beggars out of them - on their own soil!!! 
The Enlargement means that hordes of East Europeans will move westward looking for ... Germanic women.
We shall leave this doubtable 'pleasure' to Swedish ponies and Negro 'actors' of your own porn industry. You can save your whores and faggots for your self (if you can). 
Slavs are strong and they shall survive! Your sort is dangerous but also corrupted and decadent, drowning in its own filth. Your end is much closer than you think! Here is my toast to the future; Hail to the Slavic Dawn!!!
I have no time to waste on more of your vomits, drown in it! Goodbye!
Posted : 01/09/2004 11:13 pm