This is the only thing that Kingston will remember about Nov. 19th.
Hijacking this rally is apparently White and Blevin's sole intention.

Hijacking it?

Hal Turner has called upon the NSM to lead it.

This came very close to being an NSM event.

OK, you got everything except your dandiness in dressing up Scythian art with nigger art for the mirth of White Nationalists.

uppinatta said of Kingston-

...a fairly justifiable rally...

You sound as if you are intellectually and emotionally on fire over Kingston. You'll be present?

Again, I showed up to meet you, and anyone else from here. That happened, I don't regret it. I do very much regret waiting around for the rest of it. I felt tainted, to be honest with you. I don't know where you got this idea that I wanted you to introduce me to anyone]it has no place at a fairly justifiable rally in upstate New York. — So, I reject the idea that I ever supported the NSM. Why? Because my idea of "support" is not merely showing up to some function or another and submitting to the planned activities. When I drove around passing out TAAs, that was support. When I tell people to read VNN, that is support. When I quote Linder in private correspondence, that is support. I would never, not even for serious pay, promote the NSM. I didn't then, I don't know. What I did was avail myself of an opportunity to acquaint myself with persons I knew from here. (Oh, yes, I did offer to find a venue for Schoep, but he quickly changed his mind.) Anyway, please drop this; you're really kicking the shit out a dead horse.

As for Israel — what I support is the status quo. I accept the present distribution of power among states and do not allow myself rhetorical sympathy for "oppressed peoples". I don't like fakery in morals and politics. If I said that I "support" Israel, then yes, I was mostly just being a dick, but I am wholeheartedly against any rhetoric about Israel's "right to exist" or its destruction. Israel exists; end of story. The rest is hot air.

I have to say the NSM are soldiers and they serve a great purpose in the WM cause.

But I think that this rally could definitly start a turning point in this country and we don't want or need to give the media any reason to twist it into something it's not. Just my .02 cents

This rally is an imitation of the NSM rally in Toledo.

National socialism leads. White cowards calling them "nationalists" but wanting to "play it safe" for "public relations" follow.

Here's an idea -- why doesn't every over weight internet dork who dislikes the NSM come to the rally and try to kick our stormtroopers out, and then we can have a big scene in front of the camera where our stormtroopers are forced to stomp the living shit out of so-called "white activists" because they turn out to be more dangerous and divisive than the Jew?

Those who object to NSM uniforms should stay home. White nationalism neither needs nor wants you.

Hijacking it?

Hal Turner has called upon the NSM to lead it.

This came very close to being an NSM event.

But it is not an NSM event.

Even you have to admit that showing up in uniform will detract from the rally. I think it will be inversely proportional to the numbers of people in street clothes that show up. The more of them there are, the less the rally becomes about NSM. And it should not be about NSM. It is about Kingston's racial problems.

I'm sorry for offending you hymie. Maybe I can suck the blood from your circumcision and we can make up.

Unproductive and stupid. You win no support by statements like that.

The idea of universal human equality did not originate with Marx; it actually dates back to the Enlightenment era, and played a crucial role in the American and French revolutions. Marx's version was a more heavy-handed version; but in a way it was more honest because it introduced economic equality to what was previously legal equality. Legal equality for citizens is basically worthless without economic equality.

Though it is true that many of Marx' concepts(or better said the concepts of people sympathetic to Marx e.g. Boas) are prominent in today's "liberal" elite, these concepts are deep-rooted and clothing them in Marxist terminology does not mean they originated with him. So from a tactical perspective pretending that all this stems from Marx is like pulling a weed without getting the root.

Capitalism dominates the world, get over it. The fact that cultural aspects of Marxism are trumpeted by that same establishment does not change the fact that it is a capitalist system. The philosophy of "modern" society is in many ways fundamentally different: The basic ideas are:

Man is an economic being (that is the major point it shares with Marxism)

Man lives to serve the economy (another shared point)

Man's most important pursuit is the advancement of the economy and his personal wealth

Individualism is sacred(very different from Marxism)

All men are equal- In the Marxist worldview this was base on the idea that divisions in race and religion were merely social contructs designed to hamper the international proletariat. Modern capitalism doesn't see it this way: Rather it sees man as "interchangable" if one can import 20,000 Turks into Germany to do a job and profit from it, this is fine- As long as it serves the economy and someone profits a native-born German is no more important to the German nation than the Turkish import.

The physical enemy, that is the establishment that exists and must be overcome, is unmistakably capitalist. If you want to attack their ideology, you will need to dig far deeper than Marx. The foundation for his beliefs became infused in the Aryan mind over one thousand years before he was born.

But you yourself showed up to participate in the Yorktown rally, yet then boged out at the last instant. You also expressed the desire to me that I introduce you all round.

It's certainly A-OK to change one's mind-- just as you did at the "gate."

But I've yet to read your first person expository account on VNNF of how you went from generally being an NSM big rally supporter to being one of those most strongly against them.

You seem to have no distance between your present position, and the one I ingenuously assume (had assumed, I should say) you had at Yorktown.

If you were to explain to others how you used to support NSM, but had a pronounced conversion, maybe you could persuade others of us to "quit them" too. Personal testimony is not infrequently convincing to people, don't you think? And you really don't like others supporting NSM, cause of the harm it does to WN, right?

Are you really a supporter of Israel? I read that in one of your posts. I couldn't ascertain if it was bad joke or not. I know you do those sometimes-- like your petrified dinosaur shit, your giant South American? stone-carved Indian phalluses, the nubian "princess" sculpture, and the fifty year old "nigger swastika" in my Scythian ancient gold and coins thread.

Thank you Chain.

This rally is an imitation of the NSM rally in Toledo.

National socialism leads. White cowards calling them "nationalists" but wanting to "play it safe" for "public relations" follow.

Here's an idea -- why doesn't every over weight internet dork who dislikes the NSM come to the rally and try to kick our stormtroopers out, and then we can have a big scene in front of the camera where our stormtroopers are forced to stomp the living shit out of so-called "white activists" because they turn out to be more dangerous and divisive than the Jew?

Those who object to NSM uniforms should stay home. White nationalism neither needs nor wants you.

Hey if you guys are so tough let's see you break the police lines. Anarchist punks do it all the time.

Hey Bill my comment was a compliment, I just think that anything you guys do the media turns/spins around and makes it a "Hate" rally or whatever the jews like to use. Regardless Good Luck..... :cheers:

You're right. I've never accomplished anything. Except made a few million dollars in real estate and acting as the spokesman for the leading white organization in the country.

All that and you still need to play dress-up? Apparently you "success" has not satisfied you.

All men against time are defenders of the old way.

Those who are with time can bend. We will fight until we break.

Fight? Who have you "fought" lately?

But it is not an NSM event.

Only by the choice of the NSM.

Even you have to admit that showing up in uniform will detract from the rally. I think it will be inversely proportional to the numbers of people in street clothes that show up. The more of them there are, the less the rally becomes about NSM. And it should not be about NSM. It is about Kingston's racial problems.

All rallies about the white race are about national socialism, because there is no struggle for the white race outside of national socialism. If the rally is not about national socialism, then it is about nothing.

Unproductive and stupid. You win no support by statements like that.

And calling me a Rabbi is productive.

This rally is an imitation of the NSM rally in Toledo.

National socialism leads. White cowards calling them "nationalists" but wanting to "play it safe" for "public relations" follow.

Here's an idea -- why doesn't every over weight internet dork who dislikes the NSM come to the rally and try to kick our stormtroopers out, and then we can have a big scene in front of the camera where our stormtroopers are forced to stomp the living shit out of so-called "white activists" because they turn out to be more dangerous and divisive than the Jew?

Those who object to NSM uniforms should stay home. White nationalism neither needs nor wants you.

Ok you all heard it, Mr. Bill wants to play dress up and will stomp the shit out of anyone who is divisive enough to suggest that he grow up and stop playing soldier for the news cameras. Such a pathetic bitch.

OK, you got everything except your dandiness in dressing up Scythian art with nigger art for the mirth of White Nationalists.

uppinatta said of Kingston-
You sound as if you are intellectually and emotionally on fire over Kingston. You'll be present?

My upcoming absence is explained in the other post. I don't have to be so vague as I was there, however; I'm up on some serious charges and can't make a move. But believe me, I would like to go — again, if only to meet DH, for example, though the area is "home" to me and that is enough of a draw. In fact, as I have family closeby, who are fairly well known in the area, I would also be risking ill repute for them if I were marked at the rally. Anyway, it can't be done.

I know, I mucked up the Scythian thread; sorry. I was genuinely agog about that ancient dino-dook, though.

Ok you all heard it, Mr. Bill wants to play dress up and will stomp the shit out of anyone who is divisive enough to suggest that he grow up and stop playing soldier for the news cameras. Such a pathetic bitch.

He is a pathetic bitch. NSM members are basically a gang, none of them will ever get in a one on one fight. A friend of mine once called-out Jeff Schoep on this very board, and instead of answering one of his sycophant comes in and says, "An attack on the COMMANDER is an attack on all of us."

Bitches the lot of them.

Fight? Who have you "fought" lately?

Every day of my life I struggle in some fight. The fight to rebuild the ruined neighborhoods of Roanoke, Virginia, is as much a struggle for the victory of national socialism as the physical fighting on the streets of Toledo.

If you mean physically, though, how about the man who followed me to my house two months ago and pulled a gun on me because he didn't like my political views?

How about the group of communists who attacked me outside of my properties a year and a half ago because they did not like my political views?

How about the crack heads and scum that I spend my days clearing from ruined buildings?

Every day of my life is a fight for something -- and not for domination of internet messageboards.