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"Pat Tillman is not a Hero:He got what was coming to him" says Mestizo Mud

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Pat Tillman is not a hero: He got what was coming to him

By Rene Gonzalez
April 28, 2004

When the death of Pat Tillman occurred, I turned to my friend who was watching the news with me and said, "How much you want to bet they start talking about him as a 'hero' in about two hours?" Of course, my friend did not want to make that bet. He'd lose. In this self-critical incapable nation, nothing but a knee-jerk "He's a hero" response is to be expected.

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Posted : 04/05/2004 1:56 am
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Check out Ted Rall's take on Tillman:
http://www.ucomics.com/rallcom/


Hmmph!

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/

 
Posted : 04/05/2004 1:58 am
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Check out Ted Rall's take on Tillman:
http://www.ucomics.com/rallcom/

That about sums up what really happened. Too bad he wasn't on our side tho'. We really need people like him. Bad.


 
Posted : 04/05/2004 2:03 am
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Thanks for bringing this up again. First I thought that, indeed, Pat Tillman had it coming.
A few months ago I read that Pat Tillman had started to express serious doubts about the jew's war. Dissent can't be tolerated. Therefore the jews, or the Pentagon, or Condi Rice, or some other kikeserving group, had him snuffed by "friendly fire" and then claimed the "Ayrabs" did it.

I expect from this investigantion by the army as much as I expect from IDF investigations whenever an israeli "soldier" murders a child or a journalist: Absolutely nothing. Still, who knows. There might be an honest person left who will do the investigation.


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Posted : 04/03/2006 5:19 pm
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Thanks for bringing this up again. First I thought that, indeed, Pat Tillman had it coming.
A few months ago I read that Pat Tillman had started to express serious doubts about the jew's war. Dissent can't be tolerated. Therefore the jews, or the Pentagon, or Condi Rice, or some other kikeserving group, had him snuffed by "friendly fire" and then claimed the "Ayrabs" did it.

[color="Red"]They can't have someone with 'star status' ,who enlists , coming out against their war .

I expect from this investigantion by the army as much as I expect from IDF investigations whenever an israeli "soldier" murders a child or a journalist: Absolutely nothing. Still, who knows. There might be an honest person left who will do the investigation.
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If there is a honest person left , he/she will be silenced in one manner or another .

Sad to think that young peoples lives are snuffed out, to line old men's pockets and serve an alien nation of parasites .


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Posted : 05/03/2006 12:58 am
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Criminal investigation into Tillman's death

Sunday, March 5, 2006 -- The Department of Defense inspector general has asked the Army to open a criminal investigation into the death of Army Cpl. Pat Tillman, the football star turned soldier who was killed in Afghanistan by his fellow Rangers nearly two years ago. The request, which came out of the inspector general's review of four previous investigations of the April 22, 2004, shooting, will likely lead investigators from the Army Criminal Investigation Command to return to Afghanistan and conduct a monthslong investigation into whether Tillman's death may have been a homicide, the result of criminal negligence or an accident, said an Army official who asked to remain anonymous.

Rep. Mike Honda, D-San Jose, told The Chronicle on Saturday that while he was gratified by the inspector general's recommendation, he was concerned about the Army "investigating itself" and said he may recommend a congressional inquiry into Tillman's death and a possible cover-up by the military.

The criminal probe is the latest twist in a case that has led Tillman's family members to charge the military with covering up the circumstances surrounding the death of the San Jose native and Leland High School graduate, who gave up a high-paying National Football League career with the Arizona Cardinals after the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks to join the Army along with his brother Kevin.

"The first investigative officer indicated two years ago there should have been a criminal investigation, and the Army took his investigative report and sent it up to the regiment level in what he thought was an attempt to find the truth, but which appears to have been an attempt to cover up the truth," Tillman's mother, Mary, said Saturday.

"The whole family has been trying to say there is something wrong here -- it's been there from the beginning, and we've had to go through this horrible process for almost two years. The Army used him. They knew right away he was killed by fratricide and used him for their own purposes to promote the war, to get sympathy for the war, for five weeks."

Military officials originally said Tillman was killed when his unit came under enemy fire in Afghanistan, a statement repeated a week after his death in a Special Operations Command press release announcing his posthumous Silver Star medal.[INDENT] "Through the firing, Tillman's voice was heard issuing commands to take the fight to the enemy forces emplaced on the dominating high ground," the release said. "Leading his Rangers without regard for his own safety, Tillman was shot and killed while focusing his efforts on the elimination of the enemy forces and the protection of his team members."
[/INDENT]It wasn't until the end of May, weeks after a May 5 memorial service in San Jose, that the U.S. Central Command announced Tillman died "as a probable result of friendly fire while his unit was engaged in combat with enemy forces."

In fact, according to documents obtained by The Chronicle, the first investigator had delivered a report on May 4, 2004, concluding that soldiers involved in the incident had committed "gross negligence" and should be appropriately disciplined.

Other testimony said Tillman's platoon was split after a humvee became disabled -- a decision one platoon leader protested was dangerous -- and the two sides lost contact in a canyon, with Tillman's group in the lead.

Some time later, according to testimony, the second group spotted Tillman's group and opened fire wildly, despite the efforts of their lead vehicle driver -- who recognized the group as friendly -- and Tillman's own efforts to identify himself by shouting and setting off a smoke grenade.

Some of those who testified in the first investigation later changed their stories
, according to documents obtained by The Chronicle, and some evidence was mishandled, including Tillman's armor and uniform, which were burned.

The initial investigating officer became a key witness in a subsequent inquiry, in which he testified that he thought some Rangers "could be charged for criminal intent." For reasons that are not clear, the officer's investigation was taken over by a higher-ranking commander. That officer's findings, delivered the next month, called for less severe discipline than the initial investigator thought was warranted.

Tillman's death was the subject of four reviews -- two by the Army's 75th Ranger Regiment, one by U.S. Army Special Forces Command and one by the Army's Safety Center, which focused on preventing a similar case.

Seven soldiers received administrative reprimands, but no high-ranking officers have been disciplined. Tillman's parents, who obtained heavily redacted versions of the investigations from the Army, complained publicly that the documents showed that Pentagon commanders -- including Gen. John Abizaid, head of the U.S. Central Command -- had known soon after Tillman's death that friendly fire had killed him.

The Army apologized in June 2005. But Tillman's family, with the support of Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., and of Rep. Honda, demanded a further review of the case, and the inspector general agreed in August to conduct the review that led to Friday's request for a criminal investigation....

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Posted : 05/03/2006 11:25 am
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Thanks for bringing this up again. First I thought that, indeed, Pat Tillman had it coming.
A few months ago I read that Pat Tillman had started to express serious doubts about the jew's war. Dissent can't be tolerated. Therefore the jews, or the Pentagon, or Condi Rice, or some other kikeserving group, had him snuffed by "friendly fire" and then claimed the "Ayrabs" did it.

Jesus--not again. The 9/11 nonsense, now this.


 
Posted : 05/03/2006 2:22 pm
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