Below you see the typical spiel that results when someone wants to gladhand a foreign nationalist. As nebulous as any humanitarian lecturer.

MW88, I just wanted to let you know that I appreciate your opinions and viewpoints. If others here don't share my view, that is fine - but please don't stop contributing. We all need to work together on these issues.

Progress is progress, no matter how small. When progress is made, others learn there is an alternative view. That is what builds momentum. When you have truth behind you, with growing momentum - nothing can stop you.

magnus Danarsan said: "But on the other hand, now that you mention it, wouldn't having some jews on our side give us some firepower? I would imagine that the elite ruling jews do not include all jews.
I have met some non-connected jews that were definitely not in the ruling elite class, and who would probably be against the enslavement of mankind through a new world order.
I may be wrong, and perhaps was deceived, but just like there are white race traitors, I am sure there would be some jew traitors (patriots) as well."

GOOD GOD, MAN! absolutely not! i have to come down hard in disagreement here. once you open that door to any jew, then any KIND of jew can get in easily. would be like fighting fire with fire. the fox garding the hen house. AMREN!

christ, if you thought my idea included awakening JEWS to a JEWISH MENACE, you grossly misunderstand me.

don't buy into that good jew/bad jew thing. yeah, there could be good jews out there (there may be martians too). but it's not worth the risk by a long shot.

Didn't mean to alarm you! I can understand your dismay. But when I said locking them into Part I (of the different forms this would take), I meant that Part I would be like a prison planet type thing. What harm would there be to have some jews realize that there is corrupt tyranny running this and other countries. This part of the plan may not even be necessary for us to develop - because chances are there are already many sites out there providing this type of information and working like this.

Involvement in any of the other parts, I absolutely agree with you. There would be no way that they could be part of something like that. That is why each of these entities would need to be completely seperate.

Fox guarding the hen house - I agree.

BTW - Can someone clue me in on Amren and what they are about. I have seen some negative comments on here, but did not understand why. Do they work against the cause, or is it that they don't take a strong enough stance? I have read some stories off of the website that seemed interesting, but have not really visited it often.

BTW - Can someone clue me in on Amren and what they are about. I have seen some negative comments on here, but did not understand why. Do they work against the cause, or is it that they don't take a strong enough stance? I have read some stories off of the website that seemed interesting, but have not really visited it often.

it's my understand that AMREN says that jews are WHITE and therefore allowed in.
and the jews have certainly made their presence felt there, i understand.
and i also understand that jews are probably calling the shots at AMREN now behind the scenes, probably because of -- you know what -- MONEY. they've infiltrated the place with their big mouths and big donations (i assume), and jared taylor now dances to their tune.

by the way, do your own research on AMREN. i might be wrong about some details, but that's my understanding of them.

i might add: i don't think that MONEY is necessarily the answer to fighting the jew. i don't think building big, expensive org.'s is the answer. that's jew tactics. we must force the jew to fight on our terms. MONEY, or, too much of it, or, too much in NEED of it, corrupts all but the most noble and rare. i'm not sure what the plan should be, but i have a feeling that a big load of money is NOT the answer.

Before the other shoe drops, and the last vestige of free speech on VNNF is finally extinguished, as I am sure is in the works in the very near future, I have to say that this has been a great place for debate. Some good points are coming from all sides on this thread (though not sure I understand the popshot against the Gaede girls). But anyway, it's past my bedtime so I'll reread the thread tomorrow.

I have a lot of personal rancor toward German nationalists, to be honest. They are, and I say this now dispassionately, a very deceitful lot, mostly owing to the oppressive laws in their country, but all the same engaging in dishonest politics. One of their favorite themes is child molestation, for example. I'm not sure why, because Germany has one of the lowest (official) rates of sexual abuse, minor or adult, in the whole world. Austria has a higher rate of child abuse due to its somewhat backward, ultra-private society, of which the Natascha Kampusch case is representative. So why do they raise the issue? Because they have little else they are allowed to talk about. Of course I am not saying that child molestation should be treated lightly, but it should definitely not be used as a substitute issue: that's just dishonorable. Same thing with Rudolf Hess. They've marched and marched and marched for this one man so much, his actions lose their appreciability, and here again it is another case of a substitute issue. All they really want to do is say Heil Hitler, but they can't, so they wax sentimental over Rudolf Hess. I can't tell you how many sappy, smarmy songs have been written about this one, quiet, rather dull and unimportant man. It's such a damn farce, Devere. No less a farce than Prussian Blue and all of that stuff here. Like Linder said, there are patriotards in Germany, too. White Nationalism, here, in Germany, or anywhere else, is 95% patriotard: fads, rhetoric, and the same rules of engagement as any other "in-group". Go against group dogma and you're a traitor, a jew or whatever else they spit at you. God forbid a man think on his own and not toe the line.

They are not making progress. Look: the NPD got 7.3% of the electorate in Mecklenburg-Vorpommern. It only sounds significant and progressive because people here, and there, want it to sound that way. They are sitting at the edge of the table like dogs and any little morsel resembling food that comes their way makes them wag their tails and salivate. That is what I'm getting at, here. The NPD has been going up and down since the 60's]

I can see where you are coming from. Perhaps in my grandfather's day a more overt method would have worked. But times have changed, in my opinion.

Parliament doesn't make change, guns make change. Six seats in a local Parliament don't make change, guns make change. Money makes change, guns make change.

I agree that it takes money to bring about change. Guns can bring about change also, but you do need to have quite a few that aren't pointing in your direction. When three blacks beat up on one white, with 10 other white guys standing around and watching. Which of those, would you depend on to back you up?

I have seen what the attendance is like at some of the WN rallies. If this would be your idea of the number of guns required to make change, then they must be carrying some pretty big guns...

I think the problem is that in the recent past, going on the war path and taking it to the streets, has resulted only in landing some good people in jail or worse. That does nothing but hurt us in the end, again only my opinion.

If there comes a time in this country when there is a major disaster (nuclear attack) or civil war, causing a total breakdown in society and rule of law - then your way would be the only way, as the strongest would be the ones who live and rule. By the same token if this country were brought to the point where there was no more democratic process and the USA ceased to exist, then your way would be the only way. Although our democracy may have eroded some, I believe it is still there (and that may be where we differ). As long as politcal change can still be brought about in the polls, I feel the best way is to work within the system and try to bring about change by waking people up.

I think what needs to be done is for us to work on growing a movement and opening peoples eyes. We know that most people are very hypocritical in what they say and how they actually live their life. So we know we can win them over, it's just a matter of finding the right way of having them discover the truth.

Of course this has been all tried before. But maybe just not in the right way.

I respect your opinions, UomoFinito, and it appears that you know a lot about the politics in Germany. I see your point, but I respect them for at least trying...

I agree with you about 9-11. I've yet to post a thread on my experience at the local 9-11 meeting put on by and controlled by jews. .. It could easily get out of hand for them.

I look forward to reading your experiences.

And it could very easily get way out of hand for them... Chris Bollyn's already gotten on the wrong side of ZOG and he's hitting back. This shows me the goys just might be starting to turn:

Are Zionists Behind Banning of Truthful 9/11 Scientist?

http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/print.asp?ID=5170&Pictures=Off

Logorhoea is an affliction. Even when it is accompanied by wondrous stuff like long-lost Pearson archives.

I look forward to reading your experiences.

And it could very easily get way out of hand for them... Chris Bollyn's already gotten on the wrong side of ZOG and he's hitting back. This shows me the goys just might be starting to turn:

Thanks for the post. I was unaware of this.

Perhaps our work is already being done for us.

I have to admit, that I really do not know what is already out there as far as sites that are opening people's eyes and coming forth with very implicating information. I have been mostly staying on this site, and studying the information found either on VNN or on SolarGeneral.

We really need to take the time and compile a list of sites that may fit what we are trying to accomplish. If there are a good number of quality sites out there, our efforts in supporting them may make better use of our time.

-Magnus

While there is value to be had in galvanizing other races against jewish cultural, political, and economic domination, venues like VNN should continue their explicit discussions of the problems caused by niggers, spics, etc., since the chafing effects of prolonged contact (e.g. living around niggers) with the darker races oftentimes leads whites to WN proper, where they later learn about the source of these problems: the jew.

This is a suggestion. if the moderator feels it is too controversial or will cause uneccesary strife, then remove it.
i think we are fighting too many battles at once. we should concentrate our battle solely on the jew, and worry about the niggers, spics, and other muds later.

I am so glad that at last some white man proposes the very problem. I was very curious why no people at Stormfront.org had focus on the Jewish problem. It is very courageous and intelligent for the proposer!
Cheers. I always think only the White Men and Women could save the world from Jewish conspiracy. We must stop the Jews now.
Give my best wishes to you! White Men and Women!
But you guys have to think the Jewish problem throughly. If you can't fight these bastards and devils by defeating their intelligence, it is highly likely we fall into their trap again just as the First and Second World Wars.
Cheers!
White Men with Shining Armors!
Victory!

I'm not going to waste my time on any forum using rude and offensive terms but will as ever continue to put foward a sensible and reasoned approach. Uomo disagrees and that's fine but I'm not entirely sure what practical measures he's suggesting instead.

But I believe that promoting a "Jews Only" approach to the problems we face is a problem in itself. One could also argue than an over-developed near Post-Industrial society is "bound" to become degenerate anyway and, as I've said before, we need to look at ourselves before telling others what to do in my opinion. I heard a recent Metzger show where he was saying the same thing pretty much about the Jewish question. Don't go on about it all the time!

Make sure perhaps you have the fundamentals right yourself; white values, white family, ability to defend yourself and so on before telling others to do the same! The revolution doesn't start with words and intentions it starts inside first.

There is more than one way of doing things as many regulars here will know I believe. But there is also no point banging one's head on a brick wall to get a headache. If your theory is broken your practice will be too. So by all means attack the Jewish conspiracy but try and work around to it and get people involved first. Once you encourage local community action and white solidarity then you needn't worry about Jews as much.

I sometimes feel it's the way people think about life and politics that is the problem and looking to blame everything on the Jews (just as some blame the Queen of England, the Pope, the Bilderbergers) instead of looking first at themselves and directing their justified rage into effective political action rather than dead-end hatred.

I have seen what the attendance is like at some of the WN rallies. If this would be your idea of the number of guns required to make change, then they must be carrying some pretty big guns...

This isn't quite what I mean. The trouble is, I can't discuss what I mean on a forum. If you fish around my posts, and Fissile's, you'll catch the drift. Suffice it to say here that I don't mean quantitative armed resistance.

Much of what could be done, tomorrow, is not done from fear of consequences. Yet in the meantime it gets worse and we still do nothing from fear. If it's coming down, I say make it crash. To hell with those who want to cope with kwa.

I think the problem is that in the recent past, going on the war path and taking it to the streets, has resulted only in landing some good people in jail or worse. That does nothing but hurt us in the end, again only my opinion.

That is a problem, yes. Another problem, which I've never seen discussed, is that those good people were so "good", they didn't go on the war path in the right direction. Aim is everything. I assume we're talking about The Order. That was a worthless, wasted fiasco. It's a lot like that Loony Toon where the fox joins a talent show, but tells the director that he can do his trick just once. He blows himself up on stage and his ghost, rising to the sky, says: "I told you -- I could only do it once."

The acts you are referring to were just this sort, and they all had bad aim, which wasted the opportunity. Then, in defense, ZOG plugs up holes to prevent similar incidents, and action becomes all the harder.

As long as politcal change can still be brought about in the polls, I feel the best way is to work within the system and try to bring about change by waking people up.

And that is exactly what I deny. Voting counts only in very taut political situations: Hitler in '33, Chavez and Ahmadinejad recently. Outside of these exceptional moments, democracy is an obvious farce wherever one encounters it. Most readers will agree, there is no democracy here. So let us assume for the moment that democracy means approximately nothing, at least in relation to its etymological meaning, rule by the people. There is not a country in this world ruled by the people. There are countries ruled by men of the people, and lo, they are all the staunchest opponents of the US and Israel: Venezuela, Byelarus, Iran.

Before you bank on polls, you must at least show how, today, voting matters at all. I hold that the southern vote was the last vestige of "free election" voting behavior, if sideliners like Nader and Kucinic are discounted]cannot decondition the people. They aren't this blank slate onto which we can throw all our hopes. They are - brace yourself, now - fat, blond, dopey Germanics who don't want anything to interrupt their boring, beer-drenched little lives. No one but a handful of men really wants to make any sacrifices to change. The men who yearn for change don't want to make anyone else sacrifice or go through any trouble. And this is only the tip of the iceberg of white inhibition. Ted Kaczynski calls leftists "oversocialized": that is an important concept. When a person is oversocialized, they are prone to hysteria, cognitive dissonance, tendency to persecute, and all that good stuff we see in the media and in our neighbors. It takes years of what therapists called "exit coaching" to bring people away from their programming. Some of us are lucky; we possess a je ne sais quoi which forbids us from taking on harmful, world-denying dogmas like political correctness and religion. Probably it comes down to a glitch in upbringing. Normal folk, because they are so stable (bourgeois in political terminology), grow up coddled and die coddled in the bosom of the community, where thought isn't necessary and is usually antagonistic. That is basic sociology, which you can find in MacDonald and a thousand other texts. The group has limits which may not be transgressed. So you have the very wide circle of normal whites, who are conditioned by Jewish propaganda, and you have the smaller circles within it, down to White Nationalism with its own limits defined by its history and by group psychological tendencies as such, and down to those willing to entertain "end game" discussion, who usually stop short at disaster scenarios and the like. No offense to you, I am simply noting tendencies in belief systems.

So no, we don't know we can "win them over". I'm being sarcastic, but don't construe it as hostility. I am highlighting that these are just mantras oft repeated by White Nationalists without any substance. What do we know, from observing the real behavior of the people? We know they are hysterically attached to the delusions in which the Jews have schooled them. April Gaede moves to Bumfuck, Montana, and gets a less than fuzzy reception: no surprise there. Max Müller used to say that language does not equal race. I say that race does not equal sympathy. White Nationalism sets itself irrational goals - actually just fantasies drawn from inapplicable examples - and when someone criticizes them or tries to bring some reason to the table, they are simply going against the groupthink dogma. WNs feel, they don't think. They are under the spell of their own form of cultism and hysteria.

I, too, respect Germans for "at least trying". But I will never be fool enough to bank on an "at least", least of all one having to do with voting. Please get this point: the NPD is kept around only because to ban them without recourse to constitutional procedure would, so the other parties think, point to hypocrisy: though the Bundesamt für Verfassungsschutz and most of the German populace would be all too ready to squash the NPD and everyone surrounding it. The Social Democratic Party has a long history of wishy-washiness. Study the events after the first War, you'll see just what I mean. This Party seems to be a conduit for every base motive in the German soul, a magnet for men without any definable personality or platform. Herr Schroeder is a fine case in point. The CDU is little different and its present ascendancy in the form of "Herr" Merkel is modified by the presence of SPD members in the cabinet. My point is that the major parties could, if they felt like it, sweep away the NPD overnight, just as ZOG could do to us here, and is certainly plotting to do in the end. We are powerless. We here have our form of token dissent, they in Germany have theirs. Applying one set of conditions to the other is absurd, and points to a desire to browbeat the other, nothing more. Do you see what I'm saying?

This is "Realpolitik". What MW88 is pushing is absurd and condescending. He's ennobling the pathetic semblance of party progress with a Bismarckian word. Votes mean revolution only when the revolutionary will and infrastructure are waiting in the wing: as the NSDAP had, and the NPD most assuredly does not have.

Anyway, to sum up: the NPD is an insignificant party in an insignificant parliament pushing insignificant and shallow patriotarded ideas. Stopping immigration is all very well, but what to do about the millions already present? Repetriation is, assuredly, impossible. Let us give ourselves the best-case scenario: the NPD magically gains majorities in most German states, halts all immigration, and revokes the visas of recent immigrants. What about the second and third and now fourth generations, who speak German and so on? will Turkey or Bosnia or Ghana take them back? Of course not. Would the NPD have the will to shoot them or at least delegate their execution, as would have to be done? Sure, and because everyone knows this, the NPD will never get anywhere. What White Nationalists and German nationalists refuse to understand - for good reason: it destroys their comforting illusory hopes - is that Jews learned from the War and all their propaganda is geared toward inculcating this one lesson in the goyim: If Germans or any Gentile nation is ever again allowed to determine its own destiny, many others will suffer. This scares the weak, puling goyim. The women want to be safe with their pussycats and teddybears; the men just want a piece of ass every now & then. No, no one must be harmed: that is undemocratic, inhumane, etc. And everyone senses at first sight that the NPD, surely enough made up of old men and college students, nonetheless contains the seed of violent possibility, and is therefore rightly shunned by all. Worse than that, I think, is people see or sense the NPD's consequent need to dissimulate. They see right past the hard words on child molestation, the melodramatic Hess-worship, the tired victim routine over Dresden and Magdeburg, and so on. This is dishonest, it is taking a cue from the Jews, and that late in the game, so no one buys it, and are all too willing to ignore their own.

This isn't quite what I mean. The trouble is, I can't discuss what I mean on a forum. If you fish around my posts, and Fissile's, you'll catch the drift. Suffice it to say here that I don't mean quantitative armed resistance.

Much of what could be done, tomorrow, is not done from fear of consequences. Yet in the meantime it gets worse and we still do nothing from fear. If it's coming down, I say make it crash. To hell with those who want to cope with kwa.

That is a problem, yes. Another problem, which I've never seen discussed, is that those good people were so "good", they didn't go on the war path in the right direction. Aim is everything. I assume we're talking about The Order. That was a worthless, wasted fiasco. It's a lot like that Loony Toon where the fox joins a talent show, but tells the director that he can do his trick just once. He blows himself up on stage and his ghost, rising to the sky, says: "I told you -- I could only do it once."

The acts you are referring to were just this sort, and they all had bad aim, which wasted the opportunity. Then, in defense, ZOG plugs up holes to prevent similar incidents, and action becomes all the harder.

And that is exactly what I deny. Voting counts only in very taut political situations: Hitler in '33, Chavez and Ahmadinejad recently. Outside of these exceptional moments, democracy is an obvious farce wherever one encounters it. Most readers will agree, there is no democracy here. So let us assume for the moment that democracy means approximately nothing, at least in relation to its etymological meaning, rule by the people. There is not a country in this world ruled by the people. There are countries ruled by men of the people, and lo, they are all the staunchest opponents of the US and Israel: Venezuela, Byelarus, Iran.

Before you bank on polls, you must at least show how, today, voting matters at all. I hold that the southern vote was the last vestige of "free election" voting behavior, if sideliners like Nader and Kucinic are discounted]cannot decondition the people. They aren't this blank slate onto which we can throw all our hopes. They are - brace yourself, now - fat, blond, dopey Germanics who don't want anything to interrupt their boring, beer-drenched little lives. No one but a handful of men really wants to make any sacrifices to change. The men who yearn for change don't want to make anyone else sacrifice or go through any trouble. And this is only the tip of the iceberg of white inhibition. Ted Kaczynski calls leftists "oversocialized": that is an important concept. When a person is oversocialized, they are prone to hysteria, cognitive dissonance, tendency to persecute, and all that good stuff we see in the media and in our neighbors. It takes years of what therapists called "exist coaching" to bring people away from their programming. Some of us are lucky; we possess a je ne sais quoi which forbids us from taking on harmful, world-denying dogmas like political correctness and religion. Probably it comes down to a glitch in upbringing. Normal folk, because they are so stable (bourgeois in political terminology), grow up coddled and die coddled in the bosom of the community, where thought isn't necessary and is usually antagonistic. That is basic sociology, which you can find in MacDonald and a thousand other texts. The group has limits which may not be transgressed. So you have the very wide circle of normal whites, who are conditioned by Jewish propaganda, and you have the smaller circles within it, down to White Nationalism with its own limits defined by its history and by group psychological tendencies as such, and down to those willing to entertain "end game" discussion, who usually stop short at disaster scenarios and the like. No offense to you, I am simply noting tendencies in belief systems.

So no, we don't know we can "win them over". I'm being sarcastic, but don't construe it as hostility. I am highlighting that these are just mantras oft repeated by White Nationalists without any substance. What do we know, from observing the real behavior of the people? We know they are hysterically attached to the delusions in which the Jews have schooled them. April Gaede moves to Bumfuck, Montana, and gets a less than fuzzy reception: no surprise there. Max Müller used to say that language does not equal race. I say that race does not equal sympathy. White Nationalism sets itself irrational goals - actually just fantasies drawn from inapplicable examples - and when someone criticizes them or tries to bring some reason to the table, they are simply going against the groupthink dogma. WNs feel, they don't think. They are under the spell of their own form of cultism and hysteria.

I, too, respect Germans for "at least trying". But I will never be fool enough to bank on an "at least", least of all one having to do with voting. Please get this point: the NPD is kept around only because to ban them without recourse to constitutional procedure would, so the other parties think, point to hypocrisy: though the Bundesamt für Verfassungsschutz and most of the German populace would be all too ready to squash the NPD and everyone surrounding it. The Social Democratic Party has a long history of wishy-washiness. Study the events after the first War, you'll see just what I mean. This Party seems to be a conduit for every base motive in the German soul, a magnet for men without any definable personality or platform. Herr Schroeder is a fine case in point. The CDU is little different and its present ascendancy in the form of "Herr" Merkel is modified by the presence of SPD members in the cabinet. My point is that the major parties could, if they felt like it, sweep away the NPD overnight, just as ZOG could do to us here, and is certainly plotting to do in the end. We are powerless. We here have our form of token dissent, they in Germany have theirs. Applying one set of conditions to the other is absurd, and points to a desire to browbeat the other, nothing more. Do you see what I'm saying?

Yes, I do see what you are saying. I will do some research on both your and Fissile's post.

Thank you for such a long and direct post. I see where you are coming from. I guess I struggle with the question, if this is not a popularly supported movement (or cannot be turned into one), is it right to go against the will of the people? Perhaps the citizens of the USA are "fat, blond, dopey Germanics who don't want anything to interrupt their boring, beer-drenched little lives". If that is the fact, then a global dictatorship would suit them fine as long as they give them the small things in life they require. I see too many mutter under their breath, and too many who do not really fall in line with multi-culturalism (through their actions - white flight). I have to hope that the situation is better than what you believe. If not, then I fear that it is over. In any event, if we don't have any more support than we do now, I do not see how just a handful can really make effective change. Again, I will do some research.

And thanks for showing me a sobering different view...

The only way there is: physical assaults on the Jewish power structure. The Jew cannot be rivalled. If we can't even talk Glenn Miller down, we'll never, ever be able to talk down Big Hymie.

Either we admit we don't have the stuff it takes to attack and so drag on like this for another five years, or someone does something to upset the applecart.

The Jew is easy to talk down because Jews are liars. No Jew has ever bested me in a debate; they all turn tail and wimper off to their lairs. When you have the Truth, the Jews are an easy target and a pushover.

You can't talk down Glenn Miller because Glenn Miller it truth, itself. He speaks the Truth and he has the Truth in his heart.

I'm not going to waste my time on any forum using rude and offensive terms but will as ever continue to put foward a sensible and reasoned approach. Uomo disagrees and that's fine but I'm not entirely sure what practical measures he's suggesting instead.

Yet you continue to waste your time saying you won't waste your time.

I'm not suggesting any practical measures, because the measures I would suggest, would either get me canned (which would be fine) or worse. Let's say I am getting at my true suggestion by cutting away at everyone else's false hopes. Or I am suggesting absolutely nothing: sometimes you really can't win. Scary thought, eh?

as I've said before, we need to look at ourselves before telling others what to do in my opinion.

Which is what you've been doing since you came here: telling us how much better you are than us, how successful you are, how beautiful your wife and daughter are. I've demolished your claims of success, I've shown myself familiar with your political system and society, and I've rebutted your arrogant, baseless condescension toward us. All you've done is talk over my head, pretending I've said nothing, and here you shown yourself to be an absolute hypocrite by giving advice which would be best directed at yourself. I've held up a mirror to you for two days now and you have not once looked into it. You can't even conceive of an American offering resistance to your extremely limited worldview. So what can you do but ignore it? You can't offer any response but that.

The revolution doesn't start with words and intentions it starts inside first.

You can't browbeat us with your leftist rhetoric, Hans. No one is talking about "revolution" but you, and I've pretty well show you up there. 7.3% does not equal revolution.

I want to stress to my countrymen reading this that Hans' rhetoric is very typical of European nationalism. They speak in very vague terms. Very many young Germans think the NPD and all politics is a sham. VNNF has a few antis, Warman was the big one, but the NPD was infiltrated by government spies like maggots in cheese.

Where you'll find the most realistic national resistance in Germany is as always in the street, among the skinheads. They too have their little cult fads (Rudolf Hess, Dresden, etc.) but ultimately, they are angry young men who have no patience for the minor ups-and-downs of a barely tolerated political party. This MW88 is not one of them. Probably started that way, then got married and settled down into the NPD member stereotype.

I will say again that this election - entirely minor and unimportant - was nothing new for the NPD. In West Germany it went through the same little victories and defeats and spy-games. It's playing out the same farce now in former East Germany. This is, again, a sympom of reunification: nothing more.

Once you encourage local community action and white solidarity then you needn't worry about Jews as much.

And this, as Americans here will agree, proves you don't know shit about the American situation. I say again: you are comparing unlike countries and conditions from vanity. In other words, you are wrong. Your methods "work" in Germany, as they ought. Not here. We have enough of the WN patriotard rhetoric to tide us over for the next century, believe me.

The Jew is the only concern. Everything else falls with the Jew. Maybe not for the better, but we are here because we want to fight the Jew. In Europe, you are able to ignore it. You can talk about smashing the system and so on, like leftists used to do here, forty years ago. All you do thereby is prove the old truth that Europe is provincial and on the way out. On the one hand you profess to be "international" by giving lip-service to "Serbians and Spaniards" (who in turn give you the same), and on the other, true hand, you're just the same kind of regional chauvinist who can't raise himself (due to law and psychology) to a bigger issue.

It is true that Germans and Europeans have tight little scenes and social clubs. That's because they're in Europe and that's what Europeans have done for a very long time. The downside is that their belief system is all the more narrow, their rhetoric twice as vapid as anything here.

European nationalism as a political theme has become so watered-down by their laws and by their own "traditions", they can't see the forest for the trees. Indeed, the trees are more visible over here and we lack, for the most part, traditions to fetishize. While we here have collected and examined all the evidence with regard to Jews, from America to Germany to Russia to Japan and back, while we daily see our faulty mother country wrecked by the ADL, by Jewish "philanthropic" orgs and raving college professors, by the Mexican swarms and the unleashed negroes set upon our kin by Jews, while we cannot go outside without seeing niggers pawing Germanic girls and Jews strolling the next generation of oppressors down the street, this fuck, this Euro, this kraut comes here and high-handedly says to us, it's not Jews, it's us. He says focusing on Jews is wrong, childish. He says what he and his buddies do is the only right way.

I say FUCK HIM. I say FUCK THE JEW. ANYONE who comes here, to the one fucking place on the net where the most intelligent of us can congregate to curse the Jewish oppressor, and tells us we shouldn't curse the Jew, shouldn't focus on the Jew, shouldn't do this or that it's wrong childish and so on, HE IS MY ENEMY. HE is the anti. WE are Americans, for better or worse. Our country was misbegotten from the beginning, perhaps. It started to go downhill when the Italians came in, not racially, but because it introduced the paradigm of mass immigration. Yes, it is flawed and we're fucked. But this does not mean we should allow chauvinistic Euros to come onto our forum and turn their noses up at us. Germans live in ghettoes, they sort their trash by color and texture, they have everything we have in miniature because their country, their lives and their souls are miniature. Fuck Europeans. Fuck Europe. Fuck the NPD and fuck this arrogant kraut.