The Pro-Pagan trends in WN get laughed at a lot especially on the Original Dissent Forum, but isn't it obvious that those WN's are merely using Paganism as a pathway toward White life being unique/different again? In the U.N./Orwellian push toward unifying the world, isn't what we really need is something to divide over again?

Very good point here.

In the early 80s I joined my 1st neopagan group, the Asatru Free Assembly, simply because pagans (like most humans) want to be part of a community, a place to share things with like-minded fellow whites.

It was my first experience with the burn. Others are aware of how potent a real neopagan revival might be, so these groups are the most infiltrated assemblies in the world. I checked around and most other people's experiences are not much different than the wife's and mine: If they ain't marginalized by psychos, they're more judaized than the Wailing Wall.

It's helpful to point out the UN/Orwellian push toward unifying the world started as winning the world for Yahweh (in Babylon) then restructured somewhat in Rome a few centuries later, welding Yahweh with JC.

Totalitarianism started with monotheism and real pagans know it. Hoffer even pointed it out at the end of The True Believer. Judaism, Christianity and the New World Order all have a common interest in keeping paganism under wraps and looking as freaky as possible. So far they're doing a bang-up job of it.

QUOTE=OttoRemer]I think that there is some denial on the part of White Nationalists. What I mean is that they set goals for the movement which cannot occur without a re-framing or forming of a new ideological position.

For too many Whites "culture" consists of nothing more than what they watch on TV, so if a 19 year old White girl likes "American Idol" and "Survivor" why wouldn't she enjoy talking to negro males who watch the same shows? In essence, why wouldn't she mate with them? In the past a person on VNN named Keystone made the wise point of there not being a "White culture" after we left our ethnic neighborhoods (Italian, German, Polish, etc..)

-Good point OttoRemer, the problem though isn't our culture per se, but the fact that we lost the necessary background/scaffolding that provide the meaningful realization any true cultural basis. We have last any vestiges of our culture because such forms have been destroyed by rationalisms/materialisms "reign of quantity" which decontextualized our idenitity/history for an entirely functionally-market driven one. We don't even know what real culture is anymore because our roots have been cut off by liberal modernity's 'war' on identity and history.

If your depth of "culture" is no deeper than being a fan of "Everybody Loves Raymond" and "According to Jim" and having season tickets to the local pro basketball team, why would race or White/European heritage matter to you?

So What exactly is White culture as it currently exists? People on Stormfront can't even answer that question.

-Of course to seriously answer this question would take an entire book if not many volumes, this would be quite a burden on anybody's shoulder. Remember though that High Cultures can only be defined on their own terms, so finding "objective" material features of our culture actually undermine the entire purpose. Each Culture has its own spectific ways of interpretating the categories of experience and expressing its own hermeneutical self-understandings that are revlealed in its particular historical unfolding. White Culture can't be defined under the current modes of thought since they provide the basis for its elimination by universalizing, materializing and decontextualizing it. I recommend you read Dominque Venner's "Historie et Tradition des Europeens: 30,000 ans d'Identite"( History and Tradition of Europeans: 30 000 years of identity) for an great book on the foundations of our culture/history . Also don't make the mistake of defining true "European culture" with the mythically contructed "Western Civilization" of the neocons/globalists imagination consistiting of "Democracy, Human rights, Internationalism, Consumerism, free market economies, Individualism, Anti-Culture etc".

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So What exactly is White culture as it currently exists? People on Stormfront can't even answer that question.

Or any other.

White culture is what white people do among themselves. I give points to motorcycle gangs and goths for keeping a sense of kinship alive among themselves and valuing their relationships more than how they stack up on financial grid maps.

Marginalized whites have culture. Mainstream whites have commodities. Elite whites are rootless cosmopolitans. Either/either/or.