Sometimes I think some of our detractors think somehow that we're marking the end to the era of Stormfront generation of White Nationalism, therefore, pushing them out of the spotlight for one reason or another. They're right. We are marking the end of the keyboard jockies and conference monkeys being the "activists" of the movement.

perhaps it has more to do with personal style. stormfront is getting out to large numbers of people with 2000 posters on there at any given moment in time. i can guarantee you that it's monitored, and they all no it and that's why they are careful.

if you want to overthrow the current paradigm then why not use multiple methods.

but; don't think for a moment that the horse and pony shows aren't monitored and financed as well.

If you're so anti-gay, Blevens, why would you dress up in a uniform designed by a rabid, homosexual, butt-fucking faggot named Ernst Roehm?

Please don’t tell me that you really believe this oft repeated jewish lie!

Roehm didn’t design the SA uniform either.

The SA uniform was based on old army gear that just happened to be available.

I was going to write something about how the NSM should incorporate American symbols, but I see in the posted photos they are already doing that.

But the point of the swastika, the sig-rune and the traditional national socialist uniforms is exactly that the jew gets outraged by it. The Confederate flag is a strong symbol, as are the pre-Lincoln USA flags, but the swastika tops it as an aryan, jew-bashing symbol.

I chose camouflage as the uniform for White Patriot Party members for the following reasons:

1) Cheap and readily available
2) Members more apt to purchase camouflage because they can still wear them when hunting or for casual wear, if they decide to quit the Party.
3) It gives a military appearance.
4) One size fits many and
5) It's rugged, doesn't need ironing, and can be worn during training exercises as well as public demonstrations.

But if I was starting a new group now, I'd chose the following, and for much the same reasons:

1) Blue jean trousers (So's yankees can't call us prejudiced, and because everybody already has them)
2) Grey Army TW's - shirt tails out (They are cheap at Army surplus stores, have military creases, and are highly durable) - long sleeved rolled up in summer, but down in winter and with sweat shirt underneath for warmth. Large rebel flag patch on left shoulder.
3) Used army pistol belts
4) Jack boots or regular Army combat boots. The latter can be purchased used and cheaply. Since one can goose-step properly only when wearing jackboots, I'd place the jack-booted men in front ranks during public marches. Hell yes, I'd goose step um. I goose step expertly, myself. It is oh so gloriously breathtaking to do and to watch. Try it if you don't believe me.
5) For headgear, I'd adopt grey civil war caps bearing rebel flag patch. With regular grey baseball-type caps optional.

Obviously, I prefer a rugged kinda uniform rather than the dress-up kind which appear kinda sissy to me, especially when only a handful appear publicly in them. And I recommended the above for the simple fact it's cheap, easy to obtain vast quantities, but still looks damn good.

BTW, the 11-foot flag poles in the photo are actually wooden hanger rods used in closets to hang clothes on. As I recall, they cost only about a buck apiece back then at building supply stores. Attach those "suckers" firmly to poles with bailing wire, and with groves sawed 1/4 inch into 2 sides of the 2-inch thick poles to prevent slippage.

Anyhow for what it's worth, that's my "2-cents".

The NSM should drop the American flag before they drop the Swastika. The US flag is the symbol of our enemies, and I dont care if it has 50 stars or 13 on it.

More original uniforms would be good. Black shirts instead of brown was already suggested, and I agree.

I agree drop the US Flag and use the old battle flag.

Please don’t tell me that you really believe this oft repeated jewish lie!

I do believe it - for precisely the reason that it isn't a lie. Ernst Roehm was a known homosexual, and he made it so clear to Hitler that ol' Adolf finally had to liquidate him and his faggot buddies during The Night of the Long Knives. Besides Roehm being a turd-burglar, his three million SA troops were a threat to Hitler's power during that period, and both Germany's major industrialists and Germany's army generals wanted Roehm's power broken - which it was. At the end of it all, Roehm had his fucking fag brains blown out of his cock-sucking head by two SS men.

End of story.

RE: Professor of Racial Cleansing

I do believe it - for precisely the reason that it isn't a lie. Ernst Roehm was a known homosexual...

The oft repeated jewish lie that Ernst Roehm was a homosexual was wartime propaganda manufactured by the jews to discredit leaders of the Nazi party. To keep this in perspective, we must understand that for a jew to “out” someone today is considered a blessing of a sort in the court of public opinion. In other words, the jew says that Roehm was a filthy degenerate homosexual out of one side of their mouth, and out of the other side of their mouth they gush over their new hit TV series, Queer Eye for a Straight Guy. Which is it jews? Are fags evil or are they beloved? Oh! I see! It depends upon who supports the jew’s agenda. Hypocrisy is the stock and trade of the jew.

Roehm was executed for his outspoken opposition to Nazi leadership direction and that’s the truth. There is no evidence that Roehm was a fag other then the multitudes of kikes in the media who perpetuated that unsubstantiated rumor in the press and where ever else they could slip that lie into. The jew’s seized upon that particular historical upheaval in the Nazi hierarchy and spun the homo-lie far and wide. I’m surprised that any self respecting WN is still fooled by the jew bullshit.

Roehm was a great leader and had a big hand in the establishment of the Nazi movement in the early years, it was unfortunate that his iron-will was incapable of yielding to the inevitable.

There is no purpose in continuing to denigrate this heroic man on this forum.

I'm pretty sure Rhoem was a homo, but that doesn't negate what he did for the NS. The guy was pretty effective. Regardless, I think the NSM today could be much more effective than they are now by joining the 21st Century.

The NSM has a good message and seems to be pretty organized, but those uniforms shut down the average person's reception to any message. That's just a fact.

I chose camouflage as the uniform for White Patriot Party members for the following reasons:

1) Cheap and readily available
2) Members more apt to purchase camouflage because they can still wear them when hunting or for casual wear, if they decide to quit the Party.
3) It gives a military appearance.
4) One size fits many and
5) It's rugged, doesn't need ironing, and can be worn during training exercises as well as public demonstrations.

But if I was starting a new group now, I'd chose the following, and for much the same reasons:

1) Blue jean trousers (So's yankees can't call us prejudiced, and because everybody already has them)
2) Grey Army TW's - shirt tails out (They are cheap at Army surplus stores, have military creases, and are highly durable) - long sleeved rolled up in summer, but down in winter and with sweat shirt underneath for warmth. Large rebel flag patch on left shoulder.
3) Used army pistol belts
4) Jack boots or regular Army combat boots. The latter can be purchased used and cheaply. Since one can goose-step properly only when wearing jackboots, I'd place the jack-booted men in front ranks during public marches. Hell yes, I'd goose step um. I goose step expertly, myself. It is oh so gloriously breathtaking to do and to watch. Try it if you don't believe me.
5) For headgear, I'd adopt grey civil war caps bearing rebel flag patch. With regular grey baseball-type caps optional.

Obviously, I prefer a rugged kinda uniform rather than the dress-up kind which appear kinda sissy to me, especially when only a handful appear publicly in them. And I recommended the above for the simple fact it's cheap, easy to obtain vast quantities, but still looks damn good.

BTW, the 11-foot flag poles in the photo are actually wooden hanger rods used in closets to hang clothes on. As I recall, they cost only about a buck apiece back then at building supply stores. Attach those "suckers" firmly to poles with bailing wire, and with groves sawed 1/4 inch into 2 sides of the 2-inch thick poles to prevent slippage.

Anyhow for what it's worth, that's my "2-cents".

Lots of constructive (and not so constructive) critisim here but I applaud the brainstorming. At least the uniforms of the NSM have got people thinking.

Now for my two cents worth: Now that the shock value of the thirties style uniforms and swastikas have worn thin, maybe its time for the NSM to enter phase two by updating the uniform and reserving the sacred symbol of our race for privtate functions and meetings.

With respect for the suggestion, I think Rounders uniform idea would look worse than what the NSM are already wearing. Untucked shirt tails, with rebel caps and flags would look ridculous even in the South. This is going back in time even further than the Third Reich era. Add the spectacle of these people trying to goose step and I simply have to ask, were you kidding? The days of marchers carrying 11 foot long wooden poles are long over folks. You are lucky if the cops let you in with flags attached to short, thin pvc pipe.

My suggestion: Khaki BDU's with black combat boots, black pistol belt and black army or marine style patrol/fatigue cap. With the exception of the NSM shield patch on the right sleeve, no insignia is to be worn on the uniform. The flag should be that of a black celtic cross in a white circle on a red field. Similar to the Nazi Party flag but not quite. State flags representing the individual units could also be used. Lastly, the term "socialist" should be dropped. The initials could still be the same with a word like solidarity used instead of socialist. Americans just dont understand the meaning of the word socialist in the context of National Socialist.

Just my take on it. I honestly think these changes would be beneficial in the long run.

I chose camouflage as the uniform for White Patriot Party members for the following reasons:

1) Cheap and readily available
2) Members more apt to purchase camouflage because they can still wear them when hunting or for casual wear, if they decide to quit the Party.
3) It gives a military appearance.
4) One size fits many and
5) It's rugged, doesn't need ironing, and can be worn during training exercises as well as public demonstrations.

But if I was starting a new group now, I'd chose the following, and for much the same reasons:

1) Blue jean trousers (So's yankees can't call us prejudiced, and because everybody already has them)
2) Grey Army TW's - shirt tails out (They are cheap at Army surplus stores, have military creases, and are highly durable) - long sleeved rolled up in summer, but down in winter and with sweat shirt underneath for warmth. Large rebel flag patch on left shoulder.
3) Used army pistol belts
4) Jack boots or regular Army combat boots. The latter can be purchased used and cheaply. Since one can goose-step properly only when wearing jackboots, I'd place the jack-booted men in front ranks during public marches. Hell yes, I'd goose step um. I goose step expertly, myself. It is oh so gloriously breathtaking to do and to watch. Try it if you don't believe me.
5) For headgear, I'd adopt grey civil war caps bearing rebel flag patch. With regular grey baseball-type caps optional.

Obviously, I prefer a rugged kinda uniform rather than the dress-up kind which appear kinda sissy to me, especially when only a handful appear publicly in them. And I recommended the above for the simple fact it's cheap, easy to obtain vast quantities, but still looks damn good.

BTW, the 11-foot flag poles in the photo are actually wooden hanger rods used in closets to hang clothes on. As I recall, they cost only about a buck apiece back then at building supply stores. Attach those "suckers" firmly to poles with bailing wire, and with groves sawed 1/4 inch into 2 sides of the 2-inch thick poles to prevent slippage.

Anyhow for what it's worth, that's my "2-cents".

Your 2 cents is worth a lot of dollars.

Lots of constructive (and not so constructive) critisim here but I applaud the brainstorming. At least the uniforms of the NSM have got people thinking.

Now for my two cents worth: Now that the shock value of the thirties style uniforms and swastikas have worn thin, maybe its time for the NSM to enter phase two by updating the uniform and reserving the sacred symbol of our race for privtate functions and meetings.

With respect for the suggestion, I think Rounders uniform idea would look worse than what the NSM are already wearing. Untucked shirt tails, with rebel caps and flags would look ridculous even in the South. This is going back in time even further than the Third Reich era. Add the spectacle of these people trying to goose step and I simply have to ask, were you kidding? The days of marchers carrying 11 foot long wooden poles are long over folks. You are lucky if the cops let you in with flags attached to short, thin pvc pipe.

My suggestion: Khaki BDU's with black combat boots, black pistol belt and black army or marine style patrol/fatigue cap. With the exception of the NSM shield patch on the right sleeve, no insignia is to be worn on the uniform. The flag should be that of a black celtic cross in a white circle on a red field. Similar to the Nazi Party flag but not quite. State flags representing the individual units could also be used. Lastly, the term "socialist" should be dropped. The initials could still be the same with a word like solidarity used instead of socialist. Americans just dont understand the meaning of the word socialist in the context of National Socialist.

Just my take on it. I honestly think these changes would be beneficial in the long run.

Excellent analysis. I think you are on the right track -- although Rounder's ideas are excellent too and, in my opinion, should be strongly considered and used where they fit in to what, if anything, is finally decided upon.

Thread on Swedish NS

http://www.stormfront.org/forum/showthread.php?t=267739

Thread on Russian NS

http://forum.skadi.net/showthread.php?t=46466

Both groups are totally superior to the wannabe SA, the NSM.

btw

The SA sucked. The Germans hated them for being brutes so they were replaced by the SS. You don't only choose to be a foreign dressup group.... you choose to be the losers. NSM uniforms = shit.

Thread on Swedish NS

http://www.stormfront.org/forum/showthread.php?t=267739

Thread on Russian NS

http://forum.skadi.net/showthread.php?t=46466

Both groups are totally superior to the wannabe SA, the NSM.

btw

The SA sucked. The Germans hated them for being brutes so they were replaced by the SS. You don't only choose to be a foreign dressup group.... you choose to be the losers. NSM uniforms = shit.

Thanks for the threads, Ghetto-Blaster. I keep getting more and more impressed by the Swedish uniform.

Lots of constructive (and not so constructive) critisim here but I applaud the brainstorming. At least the uniforms of the NSM have got people thinking.

Now for my two cents worth: Now that the shock value of the thirties style uniforms and swastikas have worn thin, maybe its time for the NSM to enter phase two by updating the uniform and reserving the sacred symbol of our race for privtate functions and meetings.

With respect for the suggestion, I think Rounders uniform idea would look worse than what the NSM are already wearing. Untucked shirt tails, with rebel caps and flags would look ridculous even in the South. This is going back in time even further than the Third Reich era. Add the spectacle of these people trying to goose step and I simply have to ask, were you kidding? The days of marchers carrying 11 foot long wooden poles are long over folks. You are lucky if the cops let you in with flags attached to short, thin pvc pipe.

My suggestion: Khaki BDU's with black combat boots, black pistol belt and black army or marine style patrol/fatigue cap. With the exception of the NSM shield patch on the right sleeve, no insignia is to be worn on the uniform. The flag should be that of a black celtic cross in a white circle on a red field. Similar to the Nazi Party flag but not quite. State flags representing the individual units could also be used. Lastly, the term "socialist" should be dropped. The initials could still be the same with a word like solidarity used instead of socialist. Americans just dont understand the meaning of the word socialist in the context of National Socialist.

Just my take on it. I honestly think these changes would be beneficial in the long run.

Welcome to VNNF, dixie. Your comments and criticisms seem constructive, though I disagree with them and stand by my recommendation for the reasons I listed. But no uniform pleases everybody, even those who wear them. Yet leaders of WN groups must select one. And judgment must be made based on how many angry White men show up in the streets wearing them.

By far, the biggest problem with active WN groups now is not the uniforms they wear, but rather the inefficiency of WN leaders, themselves.

Millions will follow strong, young, capable, White leaders now if only such leaders will demonstrate courage and commitment, and throw themselves full time into the task of uniting and organizing White people.

1,000 angry White men in the streets on a regular basis, no matter the uniform, and millions will soon follow.

Unfortunately, few have the guts to lead. Everybody wants to push, and anonymously from computer stools, at that.

Is that Jacques Pluss at the rear?

What losers! What's with the guy with the SS runes--what's that supposed to mean