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Hal Turner
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You're lying.

OK smart alec, call them and ask:
Special Agent Stephen M. Haug. FBI Newark 973-792-7424
NJ State Police Det. Leonard Nerbetski (Assigned to JTTF) 973-792-7411
Main Number for FBI Newark: 973-792-3000

The above info is on their business cards.

What does that have to do with subpoenas?

Nothing. The Chicago Sun Times made the report about subpoenas in this article: http://www.suntimes.com/output/news/cst-nws-lefkow02.html

You still haven't proven where all those subpoenas are. Nobody is getting subponead and very few are being questioned that are WN... and I've not heard of any WN even being questioned outside of Illinois.

When did it become up to ME to PROVE what the government is doing? I got visited by the FBI. I stated that and have now provided the ability for anyone to verify it.

The Chicago Sun Times reported the issuance of many subpoenas. I stated that and provided the ability for everyone to verify what they said.

Once again, unless you can prove your allegations, please, please.... shut the fuck up.

I've got a better idea: Add me to your IGNORE list. This way, you never have to read anything I write. You can remain blissfully ignorant.

I, on the other hand, see the writing on the wall over this thing and have opined that folks ought to take some very basic steps to make certain they don't get bagged for something stupid.

I've seen people get bagged for stupid things: Two guys got arrested while coming to my anti-illegal-immigrant rally. One had a long hunting knife and in his car; which had a broken windshield and a garbage dump inside. When the cops saw the knife, they used that as a reason to search further and found marijuana in his car. He spent several days in jail over it.

The other guy was transporting an unloaded handgun in a case in his back seat after being specifically told it needed to be unloaded, in a locked box, separate from the ammunition and inaccessble to the driver. All he had to do was keep the damn thing in the trunk, and he didn't even do that. He got busted, I had to co-sign his $10,000 bail just to get him out of jail.

Those experiences have shown me that folks need to be reminded about the basics and I did that. Nothing "alarmist" about any of it.

"Alarmist" would be telling people to pack their bags and run to a hideout or prepare for a shootout. I did neither of those things.


 
Posted : 02/03/2005 7:56 pm
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One had a long hunting knife and in his car; which had a broken windshield and a garbage dump inside. When the cops saw the knife, they used that as a reason to search further and found marijuana in his car. He spent several days in jail over it.

Hal there was no marijuana or drugs inside. I had rolled the jeep in the mountains, and the windshield was cracked. I had anti-immigration and anti- non-White stickers, Resistance Radio sticker etc. plastered all over. In the state I was coming from, an open knife on the front seat of a car is legal. I'd travelled 500 miles to be at your demonstration, and had some food wrappers in the mini-jeep.

The real reason they arrested me was because I was taking digital movies of Golan Cipel's butt boyfriend, NJ Gov. McGreevy and NJ security who were providing security for the illegal Felony Rider invaders on NJ taxpayers' dime. "I don't want any of my guys' pictures on any White Supremacist websites" was what the naturalized Russian NJ state cop plainclothes manager told me in jail.

I assume you just mis-remembered a fact and not that you mis-represented it.

The FBI visited me this morning too, so I certainly believe you. I am a Creator; you have, over the years, said some heavy, rather explicit things about what Lefkow deserves. Those have been posted today in another VNN thread, I believe.

I've always said I appreciated your help in NJ- and I did...still do. If you insist on maintaining this marijuana thing, I'll look up my arrest and conviction and post it.


 
Posted : 02/03/2005 8:08 pm
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Mr. Turner,
You did exactly this:

"Alarmist" would be telling people to pack their bags and run to a hideout or prepare for a shootout. I did neither of those things.

in an earlier post:

Got anything on your computer that you can be prosecuted for? Better have http://www.evidence-eliminator.com to electronically file shred it so police forensics cannot recover the data.

Own any guns or ammunition you shouldn't have? Get rid of them to a safe place off your property.

Stocking-up on any "hate Literature?" They will seize it even though it is totally legal, so put it somewhere they can't take it.

I see this as alarmist. Care to explain how it isn't?


 
Posted : 02/03/2005 8:09 pm
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According to the Chicago Sun Times, subpoenas have been issued to "EVERY KIND OF ORGANIZATION THAT HAS ABSOLUTELY ANYTHING TO DO WITH A WHITE SUPREMACIST OR HATE GROUP" in connection with the murder of the husband and mother of a federal Judge.

Good. Let the public see the witchhunt. In the meantime, best to expose the witchhunt.

Personally, I find it all funny. Americans in the living room have NO IDEA how much their country has fallen apart. I'm not referring exclusively to racial issues here, either.


 
Posted : 02/03/2005 8:50 pm
 Paul
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According to the Chicago Sun Times, subpoenas have been issued to "EVERY KIND OF ORGANIZATION THAT HAS ABSOLUTELY ANYTHING TO DO WITH A WHITE SUPREMACIST OR HATE GROUP"

Hahahaha. Am I the only one who's laughing? Hahahaha. That is funny. And what is a "WHITE SUPREMACIST OR HATE GROUP?" Details to be announced. Hey, shitheads. If you want an interview, send me a PM or email.

And by the way, about this Lefkow murder. I think OJ Simpson did it. He's still on the loose, you know.


 
Posted : 02/03/2005 9:07 pm
Todd in FL
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"Alarmist" would be telling people to pack their bags and run to a hideout or prepare for a shootout. I did neither of those things.

No but you did say this:

First come the subpoenas, then come the raids. It's that simple. There's no getting around it.

The government can't allow that. The only way to allay those fears is for a MASSIVE show of force against pro-white people by law enforcement. MASSIVE!!! It won't work, but they're going to try anyway.

Believe me when I tell you, the next few days and weeks will be like nothing we've seen in the WN movement so far. EVERY one of us should expect an abrupt visit from the feds. When they come knocking, it won't be friendly. It will be ruthless, arrogant and abusive. They will be looking to incite some type of reaction worthy of arrest from every single one of us. They want us ALL in jail. . . . . yesterday. Whatever it takes to achieve that, they will do.

All over alarmist crap.

Here's a favorite:

Own any guns, ammunition or high-capacity clips that you shouldn't have? Move them to a safe place off your property.

High-capacity mags aren't illegal you jackass.

Stocking-up on any "hate Literature?" They will seize it even though it is totally legal, so unless you want to pay to buy it all over again, put it somewhere off your property where they can't take it.

Nobody is going to be arressted for "hate literature." And if they are arressted it was for something illegal... not having literture.

This is not true:

They DO HAVE THE RIGHT to search the passenger compartment of your car without a search warrant during a motor vehicle stop

That is only if you volunteer to get out of the car.

If they come to your HOME with a search warrant, ask to see it. Read it. Then say
"I do NOT consent to a search." When they say, can we come in, repeat that phrase. They will have to physically walk past you. Do not use any force whatsoever to prevent them and repeat "I do not consent to a search" as each law enforcement officer walks past you. Say nothing else.

More bullshit. You don't have to open the door in the first place and even if you do closing it in their face is not against the law.

It is important you utter these words because once you utter these words, they are relying solely on the warrant itself to search. If, at a later date the warrant is ruled invalid, nothing seized in the search can be used against you because the cops can never say, "he let us in and thus consented to our search."

True but then everything of value taken won't even show up on the inventory list. It will have been stolen by the police. So don't let them in your house in the first place... even if that means physically preventing it.

The SHIT is really going to hit the fan for a lot of us this week. The strong-arm tactics and abuse will be rampant and ruthless. Be prepared. Don't be intimidated. Keep control of your temper and say nothing. Don't let your mouth get you locked up.

More alarmist bullshit.


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Posted : 03/03/2005 1:09 am
Bob DeMarais
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Two agents from the FBI Joint Terrorism Task Force in Newark, NJ came to my house yesterday afternoon over this Judge thing. They made it very VERY clear to me just how big a deal this is going to be.QUOTE]

LOL. Just because Hal Turner is at the top of the suspect list doesn't mean the rest of us are. Turner is probably a suspect in the grassy-knoll job or as John Doe #2. :D

Good does come out of bad events. Cowards are driven out of the movement. Good riddance. 10-12 men like Dr. Pierce could create a revolution. 100,000 like Barney Fife couldn’t create a ripple if they were shaking in unison.

And charlatans who make predictions will be shown to be liars. There are 100,000 outcomes to every event, and predictors are almost always wrong.

From the point of view of a revolutionary, there is no such thing as bad publicity.

When the media calls, the first thing out of anyone’s month should be, “Chicago! Who does 90% of the killing in Chicago? Blacks and Mexicans that’s who!” Then, one might add, “Sheriff Moose was looking for a White guy, wasn’t he? And the cops in Louisiana spent years looking for a White serial rapist/murderer. They too had a sketch. Within a couple of weeks after including the mere possibility that a Black might have done it, they had killer-ape behind bars.

Think of a White leader. If the FBI smashed in his door in this morning and massacred everyone one inside, would that be good of bad for our people? Was Ruby Ridge good or bad? Was Waco good or bad? They were good; bring on the killer cops.

In today’s movement, the “leaders” almost universally are little men with big egos; they are expendable, and so are the rest us.

I have no idea what the outcome of the killings will be but it most likely will be good, but the more panic the better.
--Bob


 
Posted : 03/03/2005 3:18 am
SMG3000
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And I would suggest they panic to some White Zombie. There is no need to be stylishless about it.


 
Posted : 03/03/2005 6:28 am
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And I would suggest they panic to some White Zombie. There is no need to be stylishless about it.

Thanks, that's the funniest thing I've ever read on VNNF.


 
Posted : 03/03/2005 7:26 am
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Then, one might add, “Sheriff Moose was looking for a White guy, wasn’t he? And the cops in Louisiana spent years looking for a White serial rapist/murderer. They too had a sketch. Within a couple of weeks after including the mere possibility that a Black might have done it, they had killer-ape behind bars.

Charles Moose is the Washington DC police chief who bought the "White man in a white van" theory proposed by the Jewish "crime expert" Brian Levin. For two weeks the police looked for a White man driving a white van, and they actually arrested an innocent White man who owned a white van after a disgruntled girlfriend phoned the police in order to cause him some trouble. During the same two weeks, two niggers (Malvo and Muhammad) driving around in a blue Chevrolet Caprice with guns in the back seat went completely unnoticed as they shot further victims.

I'd forgotten about the Louisiana nigger killer, but now that you mention it, I do seem to recall that DNA evidence strongly suggested a Black perpetrator, however this was not politically correct, so the cops were ordered to keep on looking for a White suspect. The delay in recognizing that the evidence (as well as the odds) favored a BLACK suspect permitted the perpetrator - nigger Derrick T. Lee - to flee to hiding places in Atlanta.

Jerry Abbott


 
Posted : 03/03/2005 7:29 am
Antiochus Epiphanes
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..........
The FBI visited me this morning too, so I certainly believe you. I am a Creator]

OK, I figgered they would visit you Chain because they said in an article that one fellow (C.C.) had posted lefkow's pictures at SF. I couldnt remember if that was you or not; but I thought it was based on something I had read on an anti wesbsite.

So that is 2 VNNF members who have been paid courtesy visits. Any others? A visit is not service of a subpoena or warrant. Did they perform a search or take you into custody?

Here is a useful resource if anybody needs to find a lawyer. Put in the search engine your location and look for "practice group" of criminal law.

http://www.martindale.com/xp/Martindale/home.xml


 
Posted : 03/03/2005 7:48 am
Antiochus Epiphanes
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...

Good does come out of bad events. Cowards are driven out of the movement. Good riddance. 10-12 men like Dr. Pierce could create a revolution. 100,000 like Barney Fife couldn’t create a ripple if they were shaking in unison.

And charlatans who make predictions will be shown to be liars. There are 100,000 outcomes to every event, and predictors are almost always wrong.

From the point of view of a revolutionary, there is no such thing as bad publicity.

When the media calls, the first thing out of anyone’s month should be, “Chicago! Who does 90% of the killing in Chicago? Blacks and Mexicans that’s who!” Then, one might add, “Sheriff Moose was looking for a White guy, wasn’t he? And the cops in Louisiana spent years looking for a White serial rapist/murderer. They too had a sketch. Within a couple of weeks after including the mere possibility that a Black might have done it, they had killer-ape behind bars.

Think of a White leader. If the FBI smashed in his door in this morning and massacred everyone one inside, would that be good of bad for our people? Was Ruby Ridge good or bad? Was Waco good or bad? They were good]

Excellent points to consider. Thanks Dr D.


 
Posted : 03/03/2005 7:52 am
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for people who find their pee-pees shriveling up over the prospect of a visit from law enforcement for uttering naughty words in favor of our White race, I suggest you allay your fears with some self-education on criminal procedure and constitutional rights. A good book for laymen is "You and the Police" by Boston T. Party. It's an excellent book btw. The only downside is that as far as I know it has not been updated for the Patriot act changes. Still it is very good and relevant to routine LE matters.

Obtain the book here or at any gun show:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1888766018/103-2016400-9251851


 
Posted : 03/03/2005 7:56 am
Antiochus Epiphanes
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Day 3 and I'm still at VNNF exposing the GD jews and sippin my hot coffee, not humping cold concrete at GITMO. Oy vey. LOL


 
Posted : 03/03/2005 7:57 am
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AE, re your #26:

At Stormfront.org — an Internet discussion site frequented by adherents of white supremacist ideology — one chat room participant urged in a December 2002 posting: "Post the pictures of her family for all to see." A second participant promptly posted photographs of the judge, Michael Lefkow and their children, adding snippets of personal data from their church website.

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-chicago2mar02,0,531573.story?coll=la-home-nation

I read another federal judge complainings today that his and other judges' photos were "all over the internet". I believe those were his words.

Many elites in our society are uncomfortable having their decisions scrutinized by we "lower classes" of masses. They are just not accustomed to this.

Judge Lefkow and Mr. Lefkow have quadroon grandchildren. Many of us thought that she should have recused herself from any ruling on our legal religion due to that fact.

Further, as most of us know, and has been ruled in precedent setting legal cases on the internet- when one is a church official and church documents are put online as a decision of one's church; when one makes a registration or purchase; when one decides to accept employment which involves (as in legal decisions of public record) open societal mentions...in all of these cases, one has essentially acceded to "listing" one's "particulars".

I never did post Mr. and Mrs. Lefkow's home address. I think Bill White of Overthrow might have- I believe I scanned a piece he currently has online which in which he stated that (though I may be mistaken). I also think White claims the former WCOTC site had it online too.

Leftists excoriate George W. Bush every single day. In digital movie political ads of this last election, he was compared to Adolf Hitler. If someone were to assassinate George W. Bush, would Michael Moore, or Bono, or Barbara Streisand or Alan Dershowitz or Howard Berman or James Carville be held responsible? Would a Jew screenwriter who wrote movie screenplays about the assassination of a US President be held responsible?


 
Posted : 03/03/2005 8:44 am
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