Hey. I has been reading up on anthropology and genetics lately and come to the understanding that the Mediterraneans, with various sub-races include the peoples of the near and middle east and north africa. The evidence even says the arabs are the pure mediterraneans. Carleton coon names them as the creators of all the ancient civilizations. He even mentions the perfect human as a mix between arab and jew:box: . Well in regard to these facts some questions arise in my little head.
1: If the spaniards and italians and other southern europeans who are predominantly mediterranean are whites, then the middle easterners and north africans are also then white aren`t they?
2. If no, what separates them from the southern europeans who are considered white by most white racists like me?
2: Why is the invasion of these middle and near easterners to european countries then destroying the white race as i have read a thousand times?
3: If these middle-eastern and north african mediterraneans are the progenitors of civilization why are these nations now poor, dirty and generally shitty after european standards?
4: Why do immigrants from these racial mediterraneans bring with them crime, rape, welfare and every other social disease to european countries if they are as white as the rest of us?
5. Where do we draw the line? The scientists even say the the egyptians are wholly caucasoids. Are they white to? And that the the egyptians of today are essentially the same people that created the egyptian civilization long ago, what happened to them?
6. Why do the near and middle easterners breed like rats with 6 children per average when southern europeans average 2 when they are so much alike racially?
I tried this post in the anthropology section but i got minimal response and thoughts on this.
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Meds have a large admixture of Arab genetics from the neolithic expansion after the agricultural revolution.... not to mention countless centuries of mixing with Arabs around the mediterranean.
6. Why do the near and middle easterners breed like rats with 6 children per average when southern europeans average 2 when they are so much alike racially?
I think, the difference is in the style of life and mentality, not fertility. Not so long ago the white Americans had the large families. We have a family over here with 13 kids. All those kids are adults now and naturally, they don't have so many children themselves. When the women think about making money and careers they are unvilling to have many children. The Arab women stay home and probably have no contraceptions. No wonder that they have 4 - 5 kids. They don't worry about paying huge delievery bills, medical insurance and college education.
Besides, the Europe is relatuvely small and getting overpopulated. Why to breed like the rats? The whites know it but the coloreds don't give a damn. They hope to win in numbers.
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6. Why do the near and middle easterners breed like rats with 6 children per average when southern europeans average 2 when they are so much alike racially?
I think, the difference is in the style of life and mentality, not fertility. Not so long ago the white Americans had the large families. We have a family over here with 13 kids. All those kids are adults now and naturally, they don't have so many children themselves. When the women think about making money and careers they are unvilling to have many children. The Arab women stay home and probably have no contraceptions. No wonder that they have 4 - 5 kids. They don't worry about paying huge delievery bills, medical insurance and college education.
Besides, the Europe is relatuvely small and getting overpopulated. Why to breed like the rats? The whites know it but the coloreds don't give a damn. They hope to win in numbers.
A lot of the people calling themselves "Arabs" actually have nigger blood especially in Saudi Arabia or Yemen or any of the other small Gulf states. The Arab indifference toward race is similar to those people you meet from Puerto Rico or the Dominican Republic who calls themselves "Hispanic" as though that is some racial grouping, but when you look closely at them you see kinky hair and obvious Negroid blood.
The following WN leaders are too wedgy: Craig Cobb (hates Peter Schaenk and Christians), Peter Schaenk (hates Atheists and Pagans)
Meds have a large admixture of Arab genetics from the neolithic expansion after the agricultural revolution.... not to mention countless centuries of mixing with Arabs around the mediterranean.
After what i have read the arabs or Arabid/orientalid sub-race is under the Mediterreanid race grouping of caucasoids. That means arabs and north africans are meds as well as southern europeans.
Carleton Coon writes: "Our area, from Morocco to Afghanistan, is the homeland and cradle of the Mediterranean race. Mediterraneans are found also in Spain, Portugal, most of Italy, Greece and the Mediterranean islands, and in all these places, as in the Middle East, they form the major genetic element in the local populations. In a dark-skinned and finer-boned form they are also found as the major population element in Pakistan and northern India".
I think this is an important subject and needs some answers. With most white racists include southern europeans in the white category, it would seem logical to include other meds to the east and south and dishonest not to include these without good reason.
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Hey. I has been reading up on anthropology and genetics . . . He even mentions the perfect human as a mix between arab and jew.
I've read Coon extensively and I don't think he ever said this.
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I've read Coon extensively and I don't think he ever said this.
This is what he wrote "The Mediterranean race, then, is indigenous to, and the principal element in, the Middle East, and the greatest concentration of a highly evolved Mediterranean type falls among two of the most ancient Semitic-speaking peoples, notably the Arabs and the Jews:box: . (Although it may please neither party, this is the truth.)"
Since he is very fond of this race it isn`t too far from the truth:eek: .
He writes "The Mediterraneans occupy the center of the stage; their areas of greatest concentration are precisely those where civilization is the oldest. This is to be expected, since it was they who produced it and it, in a sense, that produced them"
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This issue is not black and white. There are Nord-types and full Arabs in Italy and Greece.
Genes are the basic issue, and prior to our ability to examine genes anthropologists made more mistakes. As explained here:
http://www.racialcompact.com/reality_of_race.html
"Carleton Coon, like many classical physical anthropologists of the first half of the 20th century, belonged to what could be called the anthropometric school. Unfortunately, when anthropometrics are given priority over phenotype in classification the result can be a subject classified as something which they don't really look like. Thus Coon's reference to exotic Nordic types, from places far removed from the Nordic centers, who conform to the Nordic anthropometric indices but really don't "look" Nordic in appearance. When there is an inconsistency between phenotypic and anthropometric classification the phenotypic appearance should generally be given priority."
You can find charts showing genetic distance of peoples by race (I believe the same chart of Professor Cavalli-Sforza, but in 2 different formats) at these links, scroll down a bit:
http://www.amren.com/008issue/008issue.html#article3
http://www.nationalvanguard.org/story.php?id=7599
Those charts indicate that North Africans and Middle Easterners are not so close to European whites in DNA.
It is a stereotype to name any "predominantly-mediterranean" people in Europe. There are three possible cases here:
1. Greeks (the most mediterranean of all), descend from a mixture of Bronze Age Anatolian migrants (of mediterranean and dinaric type), indigenes (of Alpine type) and Aryans (of nordic type). To call them only mediterranean is to ignore the DOMINANT Alpine element and the great number of people showing Aryan features.
2. Spaniards (by which I mean all the native inhabitants of Iberian peninsula) descend from a mixture of indigenes (of Alpine and Neolithic Mediterranean type), Bronze Age Anatolians (Iberians, of Mediterranean and Dinaric types) and Aryans (of Nordic type, via Celtic Iron Age influx). There is also a localized semitic element (never dominant) in Southern provinces (Andalusia, Granada, Murcia), as a remnant of long-before assimilated Arab and Jew conversos.
3. Italians are an extremely mixed people, containing a Paleolithic element of Alpine type, a Neolitic short Mediterranean element, a Copper Age tall Mediterranean element, a Bronze Age tall Dinaric element, an Aryan element of Nordic type introduced by Italics, Illyrians and Celts and finally another Mediterranean-Dinaric mixture introduced by Etruscan seafarers by 8th century BC. The affluence of Roman empire introduced millions of slaves into the core territory, those slaves having been gradually assimilated into the mass. Those slaves were most notably Greek speakers from Anatolia, Syrians and Jews (both of part Semitic, part indigenous Alpine type). If most have died without offspring, enough have been integrated into mainstream society and its efect was a gradual darkening of Italian populace. Germanic invasion, although of great historical significance, had little ethnic impact. Italians today do not resemble ancient Romans, but show a mixture of types compatible with a mainly-native origin.
"Any man who is not attacked in the Jewish newspapers, not slandered and vilified, is no decent German and no true National Socialist." - Adolf Hitler
People of Arab Peninsula have been Semitic, no matter how far someone inspects historical sources. This is the heartland of all the Semites and the place where Jews originated five thousand years ago. Before the development of civilization, these people lived by a combination of shepherding, caravan commerce and raids of farmer villages in the watered areas. As civilization progressed, so did the need for SLAVES and most of those slaves were niggs. A complicated class system was created to preserve the racial purity of ruling classes. However, as the lower classes merged into increasing poverty, a strong nigger element found its way into the nation. So the nigger element in Arab Peninsula is but an unfortunate consequence of slave trading with Africa.
"Any man who is not attacked in the Jewish newspapers, not slandered and vilified, is no decent German and no true National Socialist." - Adolf Hitler
It is a stereotype to name any "predominantly-mediterranean" people in Europe. There are three possible cases here:
1. Greeks (the most mediterranean of all), descend from a mixture of Bronze Age Anatolian migrants (of mediterranean and dinaric type), indigenes (of Alpine type) and Aryans (of nordic type). To call them only mediterranean is to ignore the DOMINANT Alpine element and the great number of people showing Aryan features.
2. Spaniards (by which I mean all the native inhabitants of Iberian peninsula) descend from a mixture of indigenes (of Alpine and Neolithic Mediterranean type), Bronze Age Anatolians (Iberians, of Mediterranean and Dinaric types) and Aryans (of Nordic type, via Celtic Iron Age influx). There is also a localized semitic element (never dominant) in Southern provinces (Andalusia, Granada, Murcia), as a remnant of long-before assimilated Arab and Jew conversos.
3. Italians are an extremely mixed people, containing a Paleolithic element of Alpine type, a Neolitic short Mediterranean element, a Copper Age tall Mediterranean element, a Bronze Age tall Dinaric element, an Aryan element of Nordic type introduced by Italics, Illyrians and Celts and finally another Mediterranean-Dinaric mixture introduced by Etruscan seafarers by 8th century BC. The affluence of Roman empire introduced millions of slaves into the core territory, those slaves having been gradually assimilated into the mass. Those slaves were most notably Greek speakers from Anatolia, Syrians and Jews (both of part Semitic, part indigenous Alpine type). If most have died without offspring, enough have been integrated into mainstream society and its efect was a gradual darkening of Italian populace. Germanic invasion, although of great historical significance, had little ethnic impact. Italians today do not resemble ancient Romans, but show a mixture of types compatible with a mainly-native origin.
The Germanic invasions had a massive impact both racially and culturally on Italy.Have you forgotten about the hordes of Germanic settlers that were allowed into the empire,especially Italy?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germanic_peoples
Italy, especially the area north of the city of Rome, has also had a history of heavy Germanic settlement. Germanic tribes such as the Visigoths, Vandals, and Ostrogoths had successfully invaded and sparsely settled Italy in the 5th century AD. Most notably, in the 6th century AD, the Germanic tribe known as the Lombards entered and settled primarily in the area known today as Lombardy. The Normans, a partially Germanic people, also conquered and ruled Sicily and parts of southern Italy for a time.
Genes are the basic issue, and prior to our ability to examine genes anthropologists made more mistakes. As explained here:
http://www.racialcompact.com/reality_of_race.html
"Carleton Coon, like many classical physical anthropologists of the first half of the 20th century, belonged to what could be called the anthropometric school. Unfortunately, when anthropometrics are given priority over phenotype in classification the result can be a subject classified as something which they don't really look like. Thus Coon's reference to exotic Nordic types, from places far removed from the Nordic centers, who conform to the Nordic anthropometric indices but really don't "look" Nordic in appearance. When there is an inconsistency between phenotypic and anthropometric classification the phenotypic appearance should generally be given priority."As i`ve seen the caucasoid classification of carleton coon and richard mcculloch of racial compact is pretty much the same.
If italians are white than arabs are white to? that`s my question in a sense?
Then where is the basis for saying that arabs are destroying the white race?
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As I said, those events you are speaking about are political rather than ethnic. People of Lombardy look no more German than those of Rome. Whatever Germanic settlement took place, its racial effect has been so minor that it merits not being mentioned. The Aryan (Nordic) minority is largely of Italic subvariety. Similar to Slavic settlement in Yugoslavia, migrants provided leadership, while the native population remained racially unaffected.
"Any man who is not attacked in the Jewish newspapers, not slandered and vilified, is no decent German and no true National Socialist." - Adolf Hitler
As I said, those events you are speaking about are political rather than ethnic. People of Lombardy look no more German than those of Rome. Whatever Germanic settlement took place, its racial effect has been so minor that it merits not being mentioned. The Aryan (Nordic) minority is largely of Italic subvariety. Similar to Slavic settlement in Yugoslavia, migrants provided leadership, while the native population remained racially unaffected.
You make a statement but offer no evidence.
I have given you historical evidence so where is yours?
On what basis do you say this? How long for instance have you lived in Lombardy?