Ok Ill be honest, I spend more time over 'there' than here, but mostly because there are more people my age..yeah sometimes the mods get over zealous, but most of the time they leave me alone.. anyway my point in posting this.. here comes the confession.."Bless me father Alex, for I have sinned".. I once slammed this place. I made a wordplay on "VNN"over 'there', and ragged about the shi#slinging.. I still don't dig that, the namecalling and such, it makes us look, well...low class.... but I also wont play this little game of "well AL said such and such to so and so back when, and Im still mad, so if you want to be MY friend, you better not talk to (fill in the blank)"I generally don't entertain such nonsense, nor do I obey anyone not holding a torture device..so the shi#slinging notwithstanding....
I have to bow down out of respect for the fact that you guys are so frigging productive, just the amount of stuff you are continually putting out, and creating makes my head spin, and that is greatness. Keep it up!

Happy Semitic-Free Holidays! (Yuletide, Xmas, whatever)

And you ain't seen nuttin yet. Check us out 12 months from now. Over 200 loyal VNN'ers have demonstrated they're activism oriented, and we're gaining more activists almost daily.

BTW, I've mailed a copy of each TAA edition to Don Black, usually with a note strongly advising him to publish a 16-page WN newspaper similar to TAA. Without response. He has tens of thousands who do nothing for The Cause away from their computers, and many hundreds could easily be convinced to contribute to and/or distribute his WN newspaper. 200,000 copies per month, minimum.

Why the hell doesn't he do that ?? Personally, I think he lacks confidence in his own followers, thus fears his newspaper would fail to succeed and consequently prove Stormfront and himself are toothless/weak, and that Stormfronters are nothing more than anonymous, do-nothing-contribute-nothing spectators.

But he is wrong. His newspaper success would be assured if he'd only push Stormfronters a lil bit. Chide them. Lead them. Shove their cheap lazy asses off their pocketbooks and computer stools. Black and some of his "chiefs" are capable of doing so. They should not be so afraid of offending their masses, and instead jump with both feet into published and strongly pushing a Stormfront newspaper.

Isn’t that a Thomas Kincade (sp?) pic? Thought you didn’t like Christian graphics?

Other than that that is a good modification of that graphic.

Thomas Kincade. Yes, I should have realized that. The house lights are on and all's cozy and warm inside. It's early evening and chilly and snowy but happy and White outside, the edge of chill taken off by the glow of warm house lights into the snowy evening. (A picture's worth a thousand words.)

(Is that Chain throwing TAA's in the front yard?)

Me?

(I do know an M in CA.)

Hi friend. It's a small White world, isn't it?

In fact, you remind me of M.

I have to bow down out of respect for the fact that you guys are so frigging productive, just the amount of stuff you are continually putting out, and creating makes my head spin, and that is greatness. Keep it up!

Okay, let's compare sins and make some true confessions. I'll make one. I'd like to confess that I don't know what is meant by "production" and "greatness". What production? What greatness? None of the white supremacist/separatist/pride movements are gaining any traction. They don't seem to be influencing anyone of any consequence. They are generally doing little more than preaching to the choir, bubba blustering and fighting amongst themselves.

Because of all the Liberal propaganda, an intimidated, politically correct, Boy Scout, do-gooder America views "white pride" organizations as low-life, malicious, evil, potentially violent hate groups who hate everything on the planet. Such a shallow and narrow-minded impression is not conducive to attracting and recruiting sorely needed upper-income members who might want to eagerly participate, share and contribute money to a more moderate, and "dignified" white cause.

I confess that I think America needs a white advocacy group that is not necessarily labeled as racist -- an organization that the better educated, white-collar, white American patriot could contribute to without being called a racist, nazi, hatemonger, etc. etc. (Of course, it would in fact be a deceptive white supremacist group, but no one would publically admit it.)

Such a movement could call itself such things as:

The Oppressed Whites (creates the illusion of seeking sympathy from America)

The Intimidated Whites (more sympathy)

America's White Targets

The Suffering Majority

America's Scapegoats

The Sacrificed

Generous Guinea Pigs (cute and solicits mercy and understanding)

America's Forgotten

The Unrecognized

The shakendown

Endangered Species

Hopeful Survivors

I confess that I feel a white pride movement such as described herein would be highly successful and productive for the white cause. It would portray whites as being victims of affirmative action, political correctness, intimidation, etc. etc. That the proverbial "playing field" long ago was tipped in favor of minorites, particularly blacks and Hispanics -- and that deserved justice for white people is being sought. (I do not consider most Asians [especially the Japanese] to be minorities.)

The availability of such a moderate white advocacy movement would surely attract millions of the more affluent white Americans (and their money ), who are secretly chomping at the bit for a promising opportunity to help reclaim their pride and dignity.

Money buys such things as lobbyists, propaganda, corporate influence and politicians -- all that is needed for success!

Okay, I've made my confession. I'll sit back and wait for all the flack. I hope I don't get banned for being so bold and daring.

Okay, let's compare sins and make some true confessions. I'll make one. I'd like to confess that I don't know what is meant by "production" and "greatness". What production? What greatness? None of the white supremacist/separatist/pride movements are gaining any traction. They don't seem to be influencing anyone of any consequence. They are generally doing little more than preaching to the choir, bubba blustering and fighting amongst themselves.

Because of all the Liberal propaganda, an intimidated, politically correct, Boy Scout, do-gooder America views "white pride" organizations as low-life, malicious, evil, potentially violent hate groups who hate everything on the planet. Such a shallow and narrow-minded impression is not conducive to attracting and recruiting sorely needed upper-income members who might want to eagerly participate, share and contribute money to a more moderate, and "dignified" white cause.

I confess that I think America needs a white advocacy group that is not necessarily labeled as racist -- an organization that the better educated, white-collar, white American patriot could contribute to without being called a racist, nazi, hatemonger, etc. etc. (Of course, it would in fact be a deceptive white supremacist group, but no one would publically admit it.)

Such a movement could call itself such things as:

The Oppressed Whites (creates the illusion of seeking sympathy from America)

The Intimidated Whites (more sympathy)

America's White Targets

The Suffering Majority

America's Scapegoats

The Sacrificed

Generous Guinea Pigs (cute and solicits mercy and understanding)

America's Forgotten

The Unrecognized

I confess that I feel a white pride movement such as described herein would be highly successful and productive for the white cause. It would portray whites as being victims of affirmative action, political correctness, intimidation, etc. etc. That the proverbial "playing field" long ago was tipped in favor of minorites, particularly blacks and Hispanics -- and that deserved justice for white people is being sought. (I do not consider most Asians [especially the Japanese] to be minorities.)

The availability of such a moderate white advocacy movement would surely attract millions of the more affluent white Americans (and their money ), who are secretly chomping at the bit for a promising opportunity to help reclaim their pride and dignity.

Money buys such things as lobbyists, propaganda, corporate influence and politicians -- all that is needed for success!

Okay, I've made my confession. I'll sit back and wait for all the flack. I hope I don't get banned for being so bold and daring.

Good to have you aboard, Don -- I mean Kevin.

Actually, except for the (sarcastic vaguely anti-white) organization names, you make excellent points. They are the very points Don and Kevin are making -- and presumably trying to implement. How much "traction" they are having is, interestingly, questionable. The money, I deduce, is still not particularly forthcoming. Hard to get wealthy Whites to risk their well-rewarded ties to the genocidal/suicidal system, no matter how sophisticated and suave and mainstream the messenger.

I think that we are simply in the very slowly building stage, having, as you indicate, to continually fight the propaganda headwinds and foggifying. We are trying to awaken the 2% to 4% of the world's White masses (10 to 20 million Whites worldwide), the true potential revolutionaries -- not just the ones who know the truth, but the ones who will act on it. I don't know how many Whites will have to awaken before those 2% to 4% show up, maybe 100 million.

I really don't think the jews are going to allow the White race to vote itself or even spend its way out of the well planned and well underway extermination. We're going to have to fight our way out. That will mean blood, sweat, and tears, as a famous half-jew once said. And that will take hard, dedicated, White revolutionaries who are willing to die and to kill for the survival of our people. That's what we are slowly building toward.

This is a slow weeding out process. The wheat from the chaff is right now being separated. And it looks like the wheat (or the gold to be more precise) is made up of people like David Duke and Alex Linder and Chain and Rounder and a number of other VNN'ers and Hal Turner and White Will and Bill White and Tom Metzger (not that these folks have necessarily a lot in common with each other or even like each other; what they seem to have in common is the willingness to give and risk everything they have and are) than the wheat (or gold) being made up of good, more mainstream-type Whites like Don Black or even Kevin Strom (or Jared Taylor). I may be wrong in that. Time will tell. My opinion is actually irrelevant. The cream will inevitably rise to the top. We don't yet know who will comprise that cream.

However, if those hard revolutionaries do not show themselves, our people and all our people have accomplished will vanish from the Earth and not even be, in time, a human memory.

Well said, Devere. I envy your command of the English language, and appreciate your deep insights being voiced on this forum.

Personally, I've never been more optimistic. 9-11 resheffled the deck, as Wm Pierce said. The kikes are making more enemies left and right all over the world. Not since WII have they been nearly as vulnerable to exposure. Unlike the 80's, we have the internet. And I agree with Duke that things can change very quickly.

I not only plainly see White gentiles awakening to the jewish menace, I see the gentile world awakening to them.

After the jewish menace is exposed and understood widely, the kikes will be neutralized to the extent they'll be unable to effectively prevent gentiles on this continent from negotiating a separation of the Races. 2-3 million square miles for us in the N.W. United States plus western Canada. The rest to be negotiated among the others. And all accomplished in a decade or so, and for the most part, peaceably, since the kikes won't be able to sabotage it sufficient to prevent it.

Good to have you aboard, Don -- I mean Kevin.

Actually, except for the (sarcastic vaguely anti-white) organization names, you make excellent points. They are the very points Don and Kevin are making -- and presumably trying to implement.

Mr. Devere,

I'm afraid I haven't met Don and Kevin, but judging from your reply ("They are the very points Don and Kevin are making"), I will assume that I might be interested in visiting their Website.

Would you please link me.

Yours in the cause.

Mr. Devere,

I'm afraid I haven't met Don and Kevin, but judging from your reply ("They are the very points Don and Kevin are making"), I will assume that I might be interested in visiting their Website.

Would you please link me.

Yours in the cause.

Good to have you aboard, Ultra Martinet -- even if you're not Don or Kevin. We are brothers in the cause and we each must find our currently most congenial (shifting) place to take our stand. I recommend for you all of the following:

http://www.amren.com/index.html American Renaissance/Jared Taylor. This is a kosher site (a serious weakness and also a strength in that just opening eyes tend to snap shut when they see the Star of David thrown their way before they're ready to throw it in the trash can). An excellent source of information on race and racial differences, the foundation of wakefulness. Jared Taylor actually comes closest to your suggested approach (and the jews still call him a racist and the White lemmings still believe it).

http://www.nationalvanguard.org/ Kevin Strom is Chairman of its Board. A true intellectual] http://www.davidduke.com/ [/url] An Aryan hero. And a damned nice human being. Read My Awakening if you haven't already. It will deepen your understanding. His daily broadcasts are truly educational, even for the deeply awakened.

http://www.stormfront.org/forum/ Don Black. His forum is the White World's largest and most comprehensive White forum. I post on it to some extent. It is a forum nearly defined by your approach -- (which frustrates the hell out of me at times, which is why I don't post there much). It is valuable for almost the very reasons you site -- as an intermediate step for those White boyscouts and girlscouts whose eyes just blinked open and who are still a bit afraid to look too carefully at a jew-world outside.

Actually, none of these sites is quite doing what you suggest. And all of them, even Jared Taylor's, is labeled by the Enemy as "racist." But it doesn't take much to trip that wire, does it? However, perhaps the reason they're not doing better than they're doing (and they're actually doing rather well -- their trend is steadily and definitely Whitely up) -- but perhaps the reason they're not doing even better is that they are a step or two or three beyond your suggestion: a disguised White-interests organization or grouping whose very disguise precludes the label of racist. Actually, I think that is an impossibility because it is the ADL who decides who or what is "racist" -- and they're not White boyscouts. I assure you that ANY White group which glances questioningly in the direction of a nigger will be labeled racist by the ADL, even if that group says they only glanced at an "African American." And I further assure you that every White lemming who hears that labeling, and all will eventually hear it, will accept it as the Word of Yahwe, I mean God.

As for your own standing ground. My experience is that the process of awakening is a process. Since it is so, and since your standing ground will depend on your present degree of wakefulness, your ground tends to shift under you -- or, rather, you over it. And so I won't be surprised to find you one day right back here, at VNN -- just as I'm not surprised to find Briseis here too at VNN today. Welcome, Briseis.

Well said, Devere. I envy your command of the English language, and appreciate your deep insights being voiced on this forum.

Thank you, Rounder. We each come to this cause with different skills and interests and backgrounds. And all those differences are needed. Thus, we can indeed say that diversity is a strength, that our diversity is a strength. (But diversity can only be a strength if all of the diverse are White, if that diversity is fundamentally unified, fundamentally racially homogenous -- which pinpoints the jew lie.) You bring many strengths to our cause -- as many VNN'ers have pointed out. But let me just say that you are also a forceful, effective writer, because every word you write comes from deep within you. One of the secrets of effective writing is that it be forged in the White heat of true passion. Your words are.

Personally, I've never been more optimistic. 9-11 resheffled the deck, as Wm Pierce said. The kikes are making more enemies left and right all over the world. Not since WII have they been nearly as vulnerable to exposure. Unlike the 80's, we have the internet. And I agree with Duke that things can change very quickly.

There's much truth in this. And victory may well come to pass as Pierce and Duke and you suggest.

I not only plainly see White gentiles awakening to the jewish menace, I see the gentile world awakening to them.

Yes, indeed. (Of course, the world's non-whites still idiotically want us dead. But maybe they want the jews dead more and first.)

After the jewish menace is exposed and understood widely, the kikes will be neutralized to the extent they'll be unable to effectively prevent gentiles on this continent from negotiating a separation of the Races. 2-3 million square miles for us in the N.W. United States plus western Canada. The rest to be negotiated among the others. And all accomplished in a decade or so, and for the most part, peaceably, since the kikes won't be able to sabotage it sufficient to prevent it.

This could well happen. We must work for these goals as if they will happen.

Here's my concern. The jews have been trying to murder us, exterminate us, for 3,000 years. They did not plot and deceive and accumulate unheard of wealth and power just to let us slip away from their hangman's noose at the last moment. I must say that I believe what the jew says. The jew has said that if things reach the point where jews are being picked off one by one, then Israel will not hesitate to use nuclear power in response. If they are to go down, they will bring the rest of the world down with them. I believe them. Perhaps I give them too much credit for evil. But, based on their record, I don't think so. Perhaps I give much credit for a willingness to die. Ahhh. Perhaps I do.

The jew will attempt at some point to completely decapitate the remaining White race, even if that means murdering tens of millions more of us (they've already murdered tens or huindreds of millions of us, so we well know their capacity for evil). When that starts to happen in an obvious way and when they have completely taken our freedom of speech in America, our only option will be to take them down one on one, one at a time. That is why I think our struggle for survival and victory over the Destroyer may very well involve nuclear war. And we, our leaders (our real leaders), must be willing to go down that road, if necessary, because the alternative is our total annihilation anyway.

What could preclude this would be a very sudden massive White shift in consciousness. I don't know how the jews would respond to such a happening. They may respond with nuclear weapons. They may just try to talk their way out their Final Judgment Day. They're good talkers of course. They have a lot of faith in that ability. And we're even better suckers. And they have a lot of faith in that. On the other hand, just booting them out has never historically worked in the long run. We know that now.

Jew Judgment Day, if it comes, will be a noteworthy day.

RE: Briseis

If you admire the activism, why not join in?

Most of the other WN websites do a fine job educating White people about the jew menace, but most drop the ball when it comes to sponsoring outreach programs. Please don’t take this to mean that they do nothing. Surely we are aware of those good WNs who are taking it to the streets.

It doesn’t matter what you think of this place or the individuals who post here, what matters most is that you are willing to take real steps to help White people and to fight the jew.

And we really don’t care if you’ve slammed us in the past. We have no time to hold grudges because the White race is going down for the third time and we need all the help we can get.

Even though there is allot of shit-slinging going on here, most of us realize the pettiness for what it is and we’re not going to be distracted from our attacks against the jew.

I would not have a problem if you helped to delivered The Aryan Alternative newspaper and posted on another website instead of here. Each Brother/Sister to his own preference of White group to fraternize.

It’s all about saving the White race and everything else is second.

Oh I have, whether it be by doing stuff (though I dont always talk about it, or I do it alone, people never suspect a mom with a kid ! heheh) or donating money, stuff whatever. Actually I have something to do that could help one of our own, and I havent had any luck from my other avenues so I will post here.I have a lot of household stuff I need to donate, clothes, books, baby stuff, all kinds of household items all bagged up, some stuff never was even used and still has tags or is in boxes- but I cant get anyone to come get them.. the sooner the better! Let me know and I will buy you lunch or serve you lunch whichever happens with time of day and weather etc..
Im in the SF bay area, maybe I can get a PM about this from someone. I think Yankee Jim has figured out who I am by now, maybe he can vouch for me, he knows people that know people, etc., I have attended an event, I believe it was "volksfront" beach campout, and met a few locals that are WN and/or NA- but I dont know too many other SFers that are also VNNers- or they are here as wel, but just dont say anything about it there. So anyway, whoever wants to come get my stuff is welcome to it..PM me, so I know you're cool and not some psycho that I will have to shoot ]