Do Europeans really want ethnically mongrelized Americans polluting their ancient gene pools?

I hope you are not refering to me. And I've met Chain. We're both white on both sides. You call another white man a mongrol on this board and you'll be ousted soon enough to opp.

Rounder said in # 98:
I wanted to wait till your last night beers wore off till I responded, Rounder. Less dissension that way.

I guess you edited out a few parts of some of your comments about we Euro Kwans deserting our families and the graves of our ancestors. Let me tell you about my family. They essentially disowned me and I lost my share of a $5 million dollar inheritance because of my racist views. My 80 year old mother jumps from country church to country church (she has to drive out to the country from the city to find new ones) cause she likes to wax on with her old girlfriends about which 30ish or 40ish preacher is a "good one." The lonely sexual comnnotations and reminisces are so obvious it's embarrassing.
She also likes to watch nigger college and basketball games. If you are visiting her, and one comes on TV, everything stops for the big event. Even her older sister, 85, grouses that "I don't know why in the world she wants to watch ten blacks running up and down a basketball court."

All my siblings are in essential agreement with my mother. Of course, though I am the oldest, my share of the money has devolved to them, and in the jewized Kwa, money is thicker than blood.
So this is my precious family, rather the same as most of ours, I expect.

Further, because I am working class, like Todd the Bomber, Whitefist, Byron and many other of our members, the kikes have taught my family and just about all other VNNer's White relatives that disgruntled, verbal, intellectual, activist working class White males are dysfunctional. So what am I supposed to do-- blow my brains out cause I am not an engineer or a lawyer, and the kikes like Adorno to the ADL to Murray CBS and all my relatives except my one 85 year old aunt say I am dysfunctional? Fuck those yapping jooz, squawking shabbez elites, and my zombie relatives!

I am also sick and tired of just about everything in the Kwa except the first amendment-- fat White girls, snooty White women with no brains, the unbridled materialism, the timidness at being White-- just everything which we talk about every day.

Pontiac has made some great points in this thread about how White Euros perceive Kwans. Apparently, even WN Kwans believe some kike propaganda about how the Kwa is everywhere the light of the world. Sure, everyone knows there is power-- technical research power etc. and scale of economy and Jewellyhood glitz. jimbo!, Augustus Sutter, Todd the Bomber, Doppelhaken-- so many have made so many bright points in this thread.

You know Rounder-- about our encouraging young Kwa WN's to turn tail and run or whatever you ascribe it to be: When I see young couples here with babies, they just look better than Kwa couples. Same when I see young women. I feel happy cause I know they will be making exquisite, healthy White families. They aren't going to be producing jewized Whites who are mixed up and hateful of their own people. So even if some young WN come over here someday, what is so wrong with their making families here? Again, Whites are a race on a Dark Planet-- NOT 2006 reconstructed Confederates, or "Americans." However Whites' minds got irrevocably imbued with this "American" mind conditioning that America is the be-all and end-all-- fuck them. I've been in the Richmond, VA bus station too many times just to get public transport into loony Jesus hallelujahed Pocahontas county (where I have been told that we'll know the end is near when God's children in IZ get into big trouble...LMWAO) from the eastern seaboard.

You also mentioned something about our abandoning our White ancestors graves. Mine go back to Kent in 1154, as far as I can figure them. Then the guys on this thread pointed out how the Pilgrims were fleeing Europe...ha ha ha. My
ancestor, Henry C. Cobb:
http://66.249.93.104/search?q=cache:aWKxQA0Y59QJ:jrm.phys.ksu.edu/Genealogy/Needham/d0001/I2703.html+henry+cobb%2Bplymouth&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1

Howell Cobb, who was the president of the Montgomery Convention and thereby, in a partial way, founded the Confederacy is my relative.

So there are the graves in England and the graves in the Kwa. Then there are the "living" walking White zombies of the Kwa. If we can wake some of them up outta their jewish transcendental sleep walking, great. But the sickness is so pervasive, even some WN think that America is somehow still now or "to be" the glorious land of milk and honey for the White. Ah, I don't think so.

These WN think that WN activist Kwans have something over White activists anywhere in the world, and if the Kwa falls, so will Europe. The Kwa has already fallen. Some are just slow on the uptake.

I'm in my racial homeland. I won't go much into how lovely it is here. Physsically, the people are astounding. I sometimes wonder if these pale blonde, pale blue-eyed people look at me and figure-- "There goes the genetic wreck with the brown hair." The other day I was waxing pissed about niggers and jews and a wide age range of Euros I'd just met at the table started giggling, got gleams in their eyes, and looked at each other, as if to say: "He knows and he is a Kwan-- LOL!"

Your hero, David Duke, who you've called the greatest living racialist, bar none, is over here. He'll likely go back and forth. So will I. I want to start a worldwide office of White diaspora-- get publicity and planetary consciousness for Whites fleing kike mind control, kike-kvetched thought control statutes and the horrific mud crimes enabled by jew enablers.

Whites are the minority on the Dark Planet. Just because we're not each individually in the same locale or each VNNer under your direct command doesn't mean we're not involved.

About TAA and your new paper: I was shocked to hear that TAA was in the doldrums. (Was off the board, travelling and establishing my status). I just bought a small business so that I can earn a living. Just now I am unemployed. We all have to have income. Sadly, the US military doesn't send me a big fat check every month for fond memories of services rendered. I can help your paper after I get opened-- take possession of this turnkey biz. I am making some racist movies, and if you want, you can send me some money for my projects. But if you don't want, I won't imperiously demand that you be thrown off the board, and I won't call you a racial bum etc., or what have you.

I read your entire posting Chain, and will respond.

No matter how you spin "it", the fact remains you and Devere especially, have damaged TWPL Project. And that's why I had to react. My reaction was not spontaneous. I thought about it a full day before I posted. And sober. I average a 6-pack of beer per month, btw. No whiskey a'tall. Too old at 65 to "handle" it.

I don't question your courage, or your racial loyalty, only your judgment in this case. Soliciting VNN'ers to relocate to Europe while preaching defeatism/hopelessness, is not only highly counter-productive to my efforts to recruit more and more WPL contributors and distributors, it helps convince them to do nothing at all. It gives them an excuse, a way out. It's also demoralizing - sickening, really. And gives much comfort to our enemies.

We are in a war. And you will agree that during wars, and most especially during race wars, deserters should be shot.

There is no place to hide, anyway. The ZOGs have seen to that. And I'm glad of it.

White men here own around 200 million firearms. In the European Union (as I understand it), you can't even own a freakin pistol, a pellet gun, or even a crossbow.

The race wars will begin here soon. The economy is collapsing. And my biggest fear is that I'll be too GD old to join in the fun, when it does come.

Come back unto the fold, Chain. Have your "fling" there and come on back. Get yourself a pretty young "thang", and beautify American by making a gang of Aryan young'uns, like I did. BTW, how many have you and Devere made combined, thus far in yaw'lls what 50 plus years ??? Didn't do yaw'lls duty yet, did ya ?? I was 51 when my 5th one was born, proving I practice what I preach. And none of them are deserting the graves of their sires, either.

I have no issues with anyone that wants to get out of the belly of the Great Satan. Some people can be of more effective that way, actually. 99 percent of us who say "fight" will do nothing of the kind. I include myself in that statement. No one knows what courage we have or have not until the time comes.

As for flounder, well, ya'll was warned

I have no issues with anyone that wants to get out of the belly of the Great Satan.

Using the propaganda slogans of an enemy, only makes you a collaborator with the enemy. The propaganda slogan, "The Great Satan", is a lie told by Muslim fanatics about the United States. The only real satans in this country are the Jews. And they are REAL devils.

Using the propaganda slogans of an enemy, only makes you a collaborator with the enemy. The propaganda slogan, "The Great Satan", is a lie told by Muslim fanatics about the United States. The only real satans in this country are the Jews. And they are REAL devils.

Here ya go folks. This is why we are losing and will continue to lose. This dumb fucker thinks that a country that destroys it's founding race, promotes racemixing, outlaws freedom of association and encourages faggots to promote their lifestyle is not a "Great Satan".

I tell ya they they just keep coming out of the woodwork. Hey bango billy: Is the enemy in white face too? Riddle me that homer.

This is an interesting question that will generate different replies from different people who live in vastly different living situations.

I'm sure there would be many enlightened people who would leave America if they had the financial means to do so. I'm also sure that age, sex, and family obligations would also play a part in the decision making process.

I think the real question that needs to be answered is whether or not you believe that the rest of the world wants us Europeans to leave America and return to the Nation we originated from.

During the recent immigration debates the hardcore "La Raza" crowd made it very clear that they believe that we do not belong here in America, according to them, we belong in Europe. They plan on taking back the land they believe is rightfully theirs and they would love to be able to deport every person of European heritage back to Europe.

If you are a "Christian" and believe in "Manifest Destiny" and "might makes right", then by all means you have a rational basis to stay in America and fight for what you believe to be right. But, if you can see what the future of "The Americas" will be and you want to raise your children in an environment where they can live and thrive in peace and harmony, you may choose to relocate to a country where Europeans are better appreciated and better respected for their contributions and achievements towards the advancement of the world society.

I would vote in the poll if I believed there actually was such a thing as the "White race". Do you think there is such a thing as "the Brown race"? The Yellow race? The Black race?

The differing black tribes have always fought each other and always will. The differing yellow tribes are all ethnocentric. They have always fought each other and always will. The same goes for the differing white, brown, and red skinned tribes.

The English, the Welsh, the Germans, the Italians and the French! Just Look at history of these white tribes Folks. We have always fought with each other and we always will. We have and will continue to fight over land, resources, women, and our ability to dominate and control everybody else in the world. Especially those of our own skin color. Don't be naive. It's always been about the haves and the have nots.

What the white skinned tribes need to realize is that we are not the majority in the world right now and we won't be the majority anytime in the near future. Get over it! Get used to it, embrace it, and overcome it!

That doesn't mean we can't honor and preserve our heritage as Europeans.

That doesn't mean the rest of the world exactly wants to wipe us out either. There have been and will always be tribal blood fueds. Oh well that's just part of life in our bloody greedy world I guess.

Going back to the question of the poll, here's another question. Did we ever have the right to take America to begin with? Do we ever have the right to take any Land, Country, or Nation by force just because the indigenous occupants are weaker, less intelligent, less technologically advanced?

I think being in the "World minority", we need to learn to get along with our neighbors of "The World". That doesn't mean we need to abandon our ethnic heritage but it should mean that we shouldn't try to force others to abandon theirs, unless of course it threatens ours, in which case there needs to be peacefull arbitration and discussion that leads to what is best for all parties involved.

I may seem too simple for some, advocating that we all try to live in peace, but what is the alternative? Nuclear devastation? Death and destruction? A world with so much pain and suffering that it is just not worth living in anymore?

I say we should work towards peace and mutual respect. I want our heritage to survive and thrive. This is what we should be fighting for. What better place to operate from than in the land that we originated from?

Europe is getting stronger. The Euro will be the world currency of the Future.

It is my opinion that we all learn to respect our position in the world trying to make it a better place for the future generations of all people, not just our own kind. When you advocate the destruction of others who are different from yourself, you sign your own death certificate.

Sincerely, Billy Bob.

When you advocate the destruction of others who are different from yourself, you sign your own death certificate.

Sincerely, Billy Bob.

Does this apply to Jews as well? Hmmm?

Here ya go folks. This is why we are losing and will continue to lose. This dumb fucker thinks that a country that destroys it's founding race, promotes racemixing, outlaws freedom of association and encourages faggots to promote their lifestyle is not a "Great Satan".

I tell ya they they just keep coming out of the woodwork. Hey bango billy: Is the enemy in white face too? Riddle me that homer.

You may be losing and continue to lose, but don't think that you can pull us all in to your pit of errors. It is not the country that does your long list of evil sins, it is the Jews and traitors who control the country.

You are making the same error that the stupid Muslims make, you blame America and Americans but don't see that it is the Jews and their puppets who cause the damage. So, your "Great Satan" slander is just that -- a slander -- but it is not the truth. It is a lie. So, how do you propose to make progress when you depend upon lies?

Going back to the question of the poll, here's another question. Did we ever have the right to take America to begin with? Do we ever have the right to take any Land, Country, or Nation by force just because the indigenous occupants are weaker, less intelligent, less technologically advanced?

The answer to your question is: YES!

Europe is getting stronger. The Euro will be the world currency of the Future.

That's because the treasonous kikes in the Federal Reserve Banking Swindle will make more money by bankrupting this nation and transfering the wealth to Europe, you naive twit.

OKAY Billy Bob Stop Talking To Yourself!!

Whites can successfully work to turn the tide of zionist control that is spreading throughout the world from anywhere in the world. Where one chooses to do this from and how one chooses to do this is an individual choice. To say that there is one way and one way only is ludicrous. To say that there is only one location that it is to be done from is also ludicrous. The important factor is that there is a common cause. There are effective means and there are ineffective means. Where one does this from is an individual choice. I really think it is counterproductive to label those who relocate themselves or seek to relocate themselves as traitors or cowards. Following this line of thinking, does this make a Norwegian White National a coward if they decide to relocate to the kwa? I hardly think so.

Given that I arrived at "the truth" concerning the issues of race and power relations (i.e. "Jews rule all") in the "Kwa" at a relatively young age, I have indeed kicked around the idea of "leaving it all behind" for a move to somewhere else.

However, as bad as things may seem with today's anti-white/anti-male governmental policies, nigger wilding, spic invaders, and complete kike lockdown of the collective American consciousness, I feel as if I have more to lose by leaving than I have to gain by fleeing given that I currently have access to farmable land.

Not all situations are equal, however, and in some cases relocation may provide the best chance for personal survival and subsequent advancement of the white cause.

I really think it is counterproductive to label those who relocate themselves or seek to relocate themselves as traitors or cowards. Following this line of thinking, does this make a Norwegian White National a coward if they decide to relocate to the kwa? I hardly think so.

I agree in full with this line of thinking.

Said Billy, playing his banjo:

What a bunch of defeatists fools are posting in this thread! It isn't like a bunch of rats deserting a sinking ship, it's like a bunch of rats pulling the plug out of the bottom of the ship during a storm -- and then deserting it as they blame the ship for not supporting them! You who want to abandon America are really a pathetic bunch! Rats, really, and not people -- especially not Aryan People. Cowards and traitors.

Said Glenn Miller:

To call most posters on this thread yellow DEFEATISTS is an understatement.

How utterly demoralizing. How nauseating to real White men and women.

There is no place to hide. Turn around and fight or else slither off silently with your tails between your legs and stop spreading your yellow "intellectual" disease among the fighters on this board.

And said Glenn Miller:

You are wrong to start this dispicable thread, and I now question your motive for even being on this forum. Go elsewhere and wallow in your intellectual defeatisms.

You and your kind are in opposition to loyal, patriotic VNN'ers, and all your yellow asses ought to be thrown into the opposition forum, mach schnell. And without regard to previous claims to fame.

This is not yet my answer to these personal attacks upon White Patriots by White Patriots over this issue. But I'll just make these points before I hit the sack -- have to get up early. It's a week night within a working week, after all.

1. In general, people who resort to ad hominem attack in a debate betray an inability to win their argument on the basis of reasoning and truth. As we well know, it's a despicable jew smear tactic -- which jews use because they can't defend their actions and positions on the basis of reasoning and truth. I just point out that you who are doing so -- are using the despicable smear tactics of our mortal enemy against your fellow White men (and I don't want to hear in response again the LIE that we aren't your fellow White men because of our well-thought out, if differing, opinion). It's sickening, to say the least. Be White. And, indeed, my general sense is that the Yeas may be losing the poll but they are winning the argument -- because they have better reasoning and truth on their side (but that's just my personal, perhaps biased, opinion -- more on that another time -- tomorrow if I get the chance).

2. I doubt that there are ANY cowards or traitors among the legitimately White White men and women who post at VNN. Why do I say that? Because it takes true personal courage even to openly hold a point of view that the vast majority of your fellow White men and women have been trained to believe is evil and wrong. And to actually post those beliefs on an open public forum like VNN (even with fake names) takes even more courage. Indeed, merely holding and stating Aryan opinions in dissidence to a powerful tyrannical government is dangerous and the potential penalties are real and severe. I would venture to say that EVERY legitimate White man and woman who posts at VNN has already paid a tremendous personal or even public cost for his ability and willingness to see and speak the truth to the face of our friends, relatives, and to the enemy. Chain has mentioned his loss of his share of $5 million inheritance. Others have lost friends, sisters, brothers, lovers, fiances, wives, sons, daughters, reputation, jobs, earning power, etc.; some have been jailed (like David Duke -- who is, by his ACTIONS, most clearly on the side of the Yeas). Really, it's nothing less than grotesque for an open White Nationalist to be called a coward and a traitor simply for holding a minority opinion (if it is a minority opinion) among his fellow White Nationalists. It's disgusting really.

3. I have more to say. I'll say it soon.

Really, you two -- and perhaps some others -- owe us a genuinely felt apology. (But I don't expect one.)

This thread and others like it are the reason why I enjoy this forum so much.

Compelling arguments on both sides.

We have immediate family in Europe both in Germany and Poland and I could see us living in either country. But, things would have to get a tad worse here in the States for us to pull out any time soon. And the primary argument for this position is that we can still post on public forums words like, ALL jEWS SUCK, without going to jail in America, for the time being at least. And that means allot.

We have the door slightly ajar with what’s left of our free speech and the dynamics and reach of the internet. And these things provide us with two very important tools needed to reach the masses. We need to maximize the potential of these precious tools while there is still time.

If I personally had to deal with the draconian hate/speech laws of some of the European countries, there would be nothing left for me to do, other then to dust off the old rifle and start dusting other things with it.

Yeah, I know! Some of us like this idea whether here or there.