So, now your pointless thread is all about a quiz is it? A or B, huh?

The thread title suggests that the issue is: To leave the stinking, sinking ship of Kwa or stay and fight. That is the question.

Are you staying or leaving? A or B?

Like to take the quiz, Momus?

Are you having trouble finding a country that would welcome such an influx of spoiled and witless TV addicts?

Perfect point.

Americans are naive to think European Nationalists love them just because they are White. The truth is, Europeans hate your guts. It is not right, but it is so. Thank the jews for it. Another pertinent point is: you run away from what amounts (for the moment, at least) to simple unpleasantness. We know niggers stink, steal, murder etc. We've got their gypsy counterparts here. Jews are bad? Come see ours. Fight your battles, or at least try. It will be the difference between the disdain or respect you will get from us if, in the end, you're forced to flee your land.

There is a wise thing to do - build bridges for the future. Plan for the worst, do not accept it has already happened. Come, visit, make acquaintances, get to know the surroundings and the people, plan interaction, interact. Some clever VNN-ers are already doing this.

So, now your pointless thread is all about a quiz is it? A or B, huh?

The thread title suggests that the issue is: To leave the stinking, sinking ship of Kwa or stay and fight. That is the question.

Are you staying or leaving? A or B?

Burrhus from post 282 above: "Personally, I believe that staying is the better choice but I have no grievance with any WNs who decide to leave"

It gets very tiresome responding to people who don't bother carefully reading what I have already posted.

Burrhus:"To leave the stinking, sinking ship of Kwa or stay and fight. That is the question"

I beg to differ. That is not the question.

The question that each WN must ask himself is, "What should I do to prevent the extinction of the white race?" That is the goal.

The original question posed for this thread seemed to me to have ignored the more important question of what is the best strategy for white men who wish to save the white race. I believe that my alternative question was a useful addition to the discussion on this thread as it put the issue of staying or leaving America in a broader context of white racial survival.

Some posters had gone into their usual abusive, vulgar, irrational and hostile rants against good WNs who believe that the true goal of saving the white race can best be served by relocating to to some other white area. I was merely trying to point out to them that calling other WNs jews and traitors because they disagree over strategic matters is not in the best interest of white solidarity.

Burrhus: "I am a white man first and an American second."

By the way, Momus, you didn't answer the question either. I did.

Which comes first for you: A) white man or B) American?

So, you decided to stay. Whew!
The 'Exodus to White Utopia' will have to go on without your guidance. Now maybe this pointless thread can die.

I was born into a family of White Southerners in a small town in Texas, one of the United States of America. That sentence describes my allegiances. I don't need to take your simplistic, face-saving "quiz" to find enlightenment.

So, you decided to stay. Whew!
The 'Exodus to White Utopia' will have to go on without your guidance. Now maybe this pointless thread can die.

I was born into a family of White Southerners in a small town in Texas, one of the United States of America. That sentence describes my allegiances. I don't need to take your simplistic, face-saving "quiz" to find enlightenment.

I was polite in addressing you, why do feel the need to be sarcastic with me?

Burrhus: "Which comes first for you: A) white man or B) American?"

Is the question really that difficult for you to answer straightforward in an honest, sincere manner?

I guess so.

Because of your tedious persistance in beating this dead horse of a thread. Now you're trying to shift the subject from your original question, To leave the stinking, sinking ship of Kwa or stay and fight. to a moot query over the relative importance of race and nationality.

If it gives you contentment I'll answer your rhetorical "quiz".

RACE TRUMPS NATIONALITY.

Does that help you?

I hope you consider the answer to be given in a suitably straightforward, honest, and sincere manner.

Do you have any other moot and rhetorical quizes that you need answered?

I was polite in addressing you, why do feel the need to be sarcastic with me?

Is the question really that difficult for you to answer straightforward in an honest, sincere manner?

I guess so.

Well Burrhus, since I've only two choices I will go with I'm an American first and a white man second. You on the other hand are a coward first, and a pseudo-intellectual second. It will take more than propositions and doubletalk to cover up the fact that you are as Frazier claims, a do nothing, contribute nothing keyboard commando that cares little about the preservation of the White race. Send some money to the WPL fund before you start giving loyal patriotic white Americans your assinine choices.

There is a wise thing to do - build bridges for the future. Plan for the worst, do not accept it has already happened. Come, visit, make acquaintances, get to know the surroundings and the people, plan interaction, interact.

Good point, Bolg, and I think you already know most of us are not scrambling to go anywhere at the moment.

I think we also know that some of these threads should just be called LET'S BLOW OFF A LITTLE STEAM because that's what it's all about. Americans talk about talk jumping ship lots more than they actually do.

I made a prediction at a union hall this morning during a discussion about all the illegal messicans we have. If the US were to have a depression or a political upset of only six months duration, every illegal would go right back to Mexico without one shred of help from our law enforcement people.

The older members of our audience knew what I meant. In the years after 1956 this area was full of refugee Hungarians. In 1958 the economy stiffed. Half if not more of the Hungarians went back to Hungary, even the ones who probably had good reasons to stay out of Budapest.

People just don't leave home for good that easily. Not Americans or anyone. If I told you the kind of red carpet treatment Mexicans get here these days, you would think I was lying. It's what ZOG is doing right now.

That's why we need threads like this to complain about it.

Well Burrhus, since I've only two choices I will go with I'm an American first and a white man second. You on the other hand are a coward first, and a pseudo-intellectual second. It will take more than propositions and doubletalk to cover up the fact that you are as Frazier claims, a do nothing, contribute nothing keyboard commando that cares little about the preservation of the White race. Send some money to the WPL fund before you start giving loyal patriotic white Americans your assinine choices.

Did you even read my post above? Do you know what issue is being discussed? Here is the relevant passage but do go read the entire post, please.

Burrhus from post 282 above: The question that each WN must ask himself is, "What should I do to prevent the extinction of the white race?" That is the goal.

"If sacrificing America is necessary in order to save the white race, then America must be sacrificed.

If saving America is necessary in order to save the white race, then America must be saved at all costs.

Does anyone here believe that if trying to save America ultimately resulted in the extinction of the white race that he should still try to save America? Or that if abandoning America ultimately resulted in the extinction of the white race that America still ought to be abandoned?

I hope not.

I am a white man first and an American second."

I can only assume from your comments that you would try to save America even if you believed that attempting to do so would result in the extinction of the entire white race. Logically, that is the only conclusion that I can reach from what you have written.

The question is not WOULD such an attempt have that effect but IF YOU (or some other good WN) BELIEVED THAT IT WOULD, would you still make the attempt?

Robe n' Hood: "I'm an American first and a white man second"

So you would side with American muds in a conflict with non-American whites.
What other logical conclusion can be drawn from this comment of yours?

I write carefully...please read carefully. I know that that is hard for anti-intellectuals to do but please try.

Why have you chosen to address me with abusive language and insults. I have never insulted you. Of course I don't know you so, if you under 14 years old, I will overlook your bad manners...this time.

Because of your tedious persistance in beating this dead horse of a thread. Now you're trying to shift the subject from your original question, To leave the stinking, sinking ship of Kwa or stay and fight. to a moot query over the relative importance of race and nationality.

If it gives you contentment I'll answer your rhetorical "quiz".

RACE TRUMPS NATIONALITY.

Does that help you?

I hope you consider the answer to be given in a suitably straightforward, honest, and sincere manner.

Do you have any other moot and rhetorical quizes that you need answered?

My last post on this thread before today was one week ago. Dopplehaken bumped the thread and then the ever charming Mr. Miller and Banjo Billy chose to attack me with abusive language. I responded to them.

Then you chose to jump into the fray even though you consider this thread dead. Why do you post on a dead thread? That seems to me to be a logical contradiction. Perhaps if you stopped posting, the thread would actually die as you seem to think it already has.

Obviously, my question is not rhetorical since so many people seem to have difficulty answering it. You answered that race trumps nationality and Roe n' Hood answered that he is an American first and a white man second. The fact that two different answers have been offered is the definition of a non-rhetorical question.

As to the relevance of my question to the thread topic, it seems to me that the question of whether or not to leave American depends precisely on whether or not that decision would harm or benefit the white race.

I mean, saving the white race is our goal.

Isn't it?

Yes, you're right. I appreciate your sincere regard for our peoples' future. I simply think that, as a race, we can't consider retreating from our problems.

I mean, saving the white race is our goal.

Isn't it?

The heritage and values of my Aryan ancestors are first last and always no matter what country I am in. If I have to give up america as a nation to ensure the survival of my kinsmen, I do it gladly and with courage. American citizenship means little to me. Especially when I look at the untermenschen who claim the insignificance of this term as their own. I am an Aryan with american citizenship. I will honor my ancestors and future generations by doing what needs be done to insure our rightful place in this world. Being an "american" has little to do with being Aryan.

MOMUS said in #304-

I simply think that, as a race, we can't consider retreating from our problems.

That's me on the left side of the couch with my right fist and forearm signalling agreement with MOMUS.

R.Cobb, 1968:

AMERIKWAN CONSUMER HELL!

Yes, you're right. I appreciate your sincere regard for our peoples' future. I simply think that, as a race, we can't consider retreating from our problems.

Retreating from Amerikwa is NOT "retreating from our problems." It is, at a certain point, an attempt to save as much of the White stock as possible from imminent genetic destruction. That isn't cowardice, that's not running like scared rabbits. That's trying to save the White race.

Momus, you and Rounder and Banjo have responded to the reasoned analysis of this question by courageous and patriotic fellow White men with sarcasm and outright smearing of their character from the get go. I see you are RETREATING somewhat from your despicable sarcastic approach to this debate. That's a start. Rounder and Banjo have never answered Burrhus's question at all.

Burrhus has framed the heart of the question in a nutshell. Which comes first, the White race or America? You, after the pulling of a thousand hens' teeth, have finally answered that question by saying the White race, but then immediately refuse to accept the clear implication of your own answer.

If the White race comes first and things reach the point where it is clear that it is impossible to retake America, then retreat, strategic retreat will become necessary. The alternative will be the DEATH of the genetics of all White Amerikwans. Do you agree with the logic of this underlying argument? If you don't agree with this logical conclusion, you are placing America ahead of the White race. Is that so difficult to understand?

True, you can say we aren't at that point of hopelessness yet in the Kwa and we need to continue the struggle to awaken our people here. I agree with that. But, I also believe, we are getting close enough to that point when we should start considering emigration from the kwa, to save as much of the White American stock as is possible. Indeed, this is becoming the primary reason to continue to awaken as many Whites as possible -- to save them before the kwa's iron curtain descends in all earnestness. To call that reasoned position cowardice is a smearing lie.

Let's have a little honesty, instead of continual smearing and belittling, for a change from the other side of this debate.

OBVIOUSLY, this thread is far from "pointless" -- or we wouldn't be continuing to post on it. Its question is, in fact, one of the most important in our lives and in the life and survival of the White race. Can the White race, down to 750 million Whites worldwide, afford to lose 250 million White Americans? Instead of continually belittling this thread and your fellow White patriots -- and I'm specifically including Rounder and Banjo here, focus on the issue, defend your actual point of view -- without the heretofore usual melodramatics and threats and smears.

The time has come for all White people worldwide to take the implications of ORION very very seriously. Our survival depends on it.

Our Race Is Our Nation. Not America. Our RACE is Our Nation.