the best way to organize the three groups is...

make the skinheads more intellectual...

Make the intellectuals not such fucking pussies, more like skinheads.

Kill the internet people.

Is it me or did Hal Turner forget to mention the Nationalist Coalition in his program. The Summer Solstice festival in Florida on July 8th is going to have all three categorys of groups that Hal mentioned on his site. I expect a good turnout for this family event. There is still plenty of time to get your tickets.

Is it me or did Hal Turner forget to mention the Nationalist Coalition in his program.

I don't think he forgot - he just didn't mention it. Has he even heard of such a new group, which fractured off from a group which fractured off from another group? Maybe he lost count...

Kill the internet people.

So, when ya committing suicide?

Anyway, Hal is never going to "unite" any beer-guzzling skinheads with the cultured likes of Jared Taylor. Maybe with Kevin Strom, provided there's some cash in it for him - but not Taylor. Ain't gonna work, Hal.

How on earth can Hal Turner even pretend to discuss WN unity and forget to mention the new powerhouse splinter named the "Nationalist Coalition"?? Before you even answer, I already know what you're thinking, Mitch: He must be in cahoots with the evil Elisha Strom! Either that, or perhaps he has come to believe the "rumours" regarding "leakmaster" Williams! Either way, this insult must be avenged! 14/88!

Is it me or did Hal Turner forget to mention the Nationalist Coalition in his program.

Hal Turner couldn't organize a fish fry at an Elk's Lodge.

The Tampa portion of National Coalition could stand to bulk up a bit, but they are pretty good guys.

I once told Roger Williams a nigger joke and when I got back to work a week and several hundred miles later, my boss fired me for it. William's couldn't keep a secret in a monastery.

Really, in the movement the problem you have is bad leadership or no leadership at all. In the NSM, we've got all 3 types mentioned. Its a rare occasion that anyone clashes with anyone outside his or her "sub-group." The only drama problems we have are short lived because our leadership doesn't allow it to drag on. Normally, what you have is say, two klan guys join up. One guy was in a klan or in an associate klan with the other guy. They had a falling out. They see each other at a meeting or rally. Their old klan baggage gets tossed on top of our bullet train. Its the same thing in the skinhead thing. Old skinhead rivalrys come into play sometimes. The intellectuals in our ranks don't bicker very much though, honestly. Normally, its one conversation with them and they're happy or at least acting like it.
Sometimes someone doesn't get their way, so they get mad and leave. Other times they get kicked out for how they handled their argument with someone.

Uniting everyone under one flag will never work in the current state things are in. Everyone wants to be in charge and everyone has a petty problem with someone. Oh they say its a huge problem, like someone is a rat, traitor or theif. In reality, 90% of the time, its something petty but a huge excuse is needed to put troops in the field. Sound familiar?

Anyhow, Hal talking last night about putting skinheads into some sort of goverment take over plan is absolute radio comedy at its best. I respect Hal to no end, but speaking as a skinhead myself, skins aren't as pro-active as they like to be thought of. I can say the same went for me in my early days. We sat around grumbling, drinking beer and cleaning rifles for years. Every now and again someone would get in trouble for something having little to do with the movement or nothing at all. A couple of guys would run for the hills and the rest would stand around looking at each other like a flying saucer had just dropped below the clouds. Sure, we were "ready" if someone or something made the first move, but really--do you have to be a skinhead to be combat ready? Everyone was combat ready, some were combat-willing but all seemed content with fighting powerless, insignifigant non-whites over what ammounted to nothing in terms of the movement. We've all seen a lot of lives wasted over shooting a nig-nog that would have eventually be killed by his brother or cousin anyway. Do you see my point? I think all of us in the movement, at least at some point, are afraid of real sucess.

The skinhead thing needs to be here, the intellectuals have a place and of coarse so do the activists. The skinheads need more/better leadership, less gang-like thuggery. The intellectuals need to dump the tea-cups and their leadership. The activists need to quit expecting both camps to act according to their opinions, even if they are right about it. This is a good point to expand on too: quit expecting people who aren't activists now to become activists because its the right thing to do. They aren't now because they don't want to be. If they want to come over and try their hand at something effective, they will. If they haven't until now, I can almost garrantee there is something going on that you wouldn't want around you or you in the middle of. Either that or they'd be peeing all over their seat on the bus all the way to the next rally. Thats all I got.

Those are some good points. Most hobbyists will never join anything active. But there will always be some whose first contact with race-aware Whites is on the internet, before they move on to being active. So it's a good thing they can chat a bit online to get used to thinking Incorrect thoughts. Moderation in that behavior is the key.

"I think all of us in the movement, at least at some point, are afraid of real sucess." Good point, but I think that's only natural. I bet any religious man or anyone with a small ideology gets used to the status quo and must feel nervous about success; will it really work?

But we should remind ourselves that it has worked, for centuries; Whites living in their own living space does work. The rest is just details.

Regarding Hal Turner’s most recent show:

Sometimes it’s hard to mute our own egos and allow for another to take the spotlight. But we should do this for Hal Turner. I say, give the man a shot and stand aside and let him go as far as he can with this idea. For the time being, we should keep any criticism to ourselves. Just let it go. If we can’t bring ourselves to support him, we should do our part for our race and at least let him have a go at it.

I have closely watched the growth of Turner and he has matured quite nicely into a solid White Nationalist. He has shed his conservative cocoon and he’s morphed into a fire-breathing teller of the truth. His racial awakening is as complete as necessary at this time to play the part of the liaison and coalition builder between the various WN factions. Sure there is still room for him to grow, but the same can be said of anyone else here.

White Nationalism desperately needs a unifier. And we can expect a full frontal assault from the jew to prevent any White man from standing-up and assuming that position. We need not assist the jew in savaging a White Brother who takes a stab at leadership.

The jew will have Turner in the crosshairs. Let the jew test him for us. If Hal Turner can withstand what the jew will throw at him, he will have proven himself a worthy leader. Time will tell.

White Nationalism desperately needs a unifier.

True - but Hal Turner isn't it. You simply CANNOT "unify" the schism that indelibly exists in white nationalism - that schism being the Nazi-WN/Non-Nazi-WN schism.

Nazis like the NSM (which Hal is a de-facto member of) must therefore go their own way, for the likes of Jared Taylor, David Duke, Paul Fromm, and others will never "unify" with them.

Never.

Period.

No way, Jose.

Err...did I leave anything out....?

Maybe we should qualify the term “unify”?

Only in the sense that the word is malleable and not to be pigeon-holed as inflexible by narrow definition. We are not talking about all White groups being butt-buddies with one another. We are suggesting a more tolerant understanding and appreciation of other White men’s viewpoints because they are White men and for no other reason. This is the spirit in which we will build the White coalition.

This is an idea who’s time has come. It is unstoppable. There are too many White Nationalists who have reached that plateau of racial cognizance whereby they understand the weapon of divisiveness as used by the jew. And, that old dog don’t hunt around here no more.

United together will create a synergy that will compliment each group by association and that will produce an updraft that will inexorably draw-in new adherents. The power that will surely come, will be focused solely on the jew and no one else. This time we will not be deflected.

Brutus: United together will create a synergy that will compliment each group by association and that will produce an updraft that will inexorably draw-in new adherents.

I agree with unifying the WN movement, but it simply won't happen as long as THIS is associated with it:

And Hal's idea is nothing new. Many others before him have suggested the same thing - including myself. But as long as Nazis refuse to abandon their symbols, men like Jared Taylor, David Duke (a former Nazi himself), Paul Fromm, and other intellectuals of the movement simply won't buy into it.

Instead, Hal should focus his energies on the National Socialist Movement exclusively, don their stormtrooper uniform, and become their "Joseph Goebbels". I would start him out with the rank of Oberleutnant Turner.