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http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/02/us/02child.html

Supporting Boys or Girls When the Line Isn’t Clear

A boy, 5, left, who identifies as a girl, plays with a friend in Northern California.
He began emulating girls shortly after turning 3.

By PATRICIA LEIGH BROWN
Published: December 2, 2006

OAKLAND, Calif., Dec. 1 — Until recently, many children who did not conform to gender norms in their
clothing or behavior and identified intensely with the opposite sex were steered to psychoanalysis
or behavior modification.

But as advocates gain ground for what they call gender-identity rights, evidenced most recently
by New York City’s decision to let people alter the sex listed on their birth certificates, a major
change is taking place among schools and families. Children as young as 5 who display predispositions
to dress like the opposite sex are being supported by a growing number of young parents, educators
and mental health professionals.

Doctors, some of them from the top pediatric hospitals, have begun to advise families to let these children
be “who they are” to foster a sense of security and self-esteem. They are motivated, in part, by the
high incidence of depression, suicidal feelings and self-mutilation that has been common in past
generations of transgender children. Legal trends suggest that schools are now required to respect
parents’ decisions.

“First we became sensitive to two mommies and two daddies,” said Reynaldo Almeida, the director of
the Aurora School, a progressive private school in Oakland. “Now it’s kids who come to school who
aren’t gender typical.”

The supportive attitudes are far easier to find in traditionally tolerant areas of the country like
San Francisco than in other parts, but even in those places there is fierce debate over how
best to handle the children.

Cassandra Reese, a first-grade teacher outside Boston, recalled that fellow teachers were unnerved
when a young boy showed up in a skirt. “They said, ‘This is not normal,’ and, ‘It’s the parents’ fault,’ ”
Ms. Reese said. “They didn’t see children as sophisticated enough to verbalize their feelings.”

As their children head into adolescence, some parents are choosing to block puberty medically to buy
time for them to figure out who they are — raising a host of ethical questions.

While these children are still relatively rare, doctors say the number of referrals is rising across
the nation. Massachusetts,
Minnesota, California, New Jersey and the District of Columbia have laws protecting the rights of
transgender students, and some schools are engaged in a steep learning curve to dismantle gender
stereotypes.

At the Park Day School in Oakland, teachers are taught a gender-neutral vocabulary and are urged
to line up students by sneaker color rather than by gender. “We are careful not to create a situation
where students are being boxed in,” said Tom Little, the school’s director. “We allow them
to move back and forth until something feels right.”

For families, it can be a long, emotional adjustment. Shortly after her son’s third birthday, Pam B.
and her husband, Joel, began a parental journey for which there was no map. It started when their
son, J., began wearing oversized T-shirts and wrapping a towel around his head to emulate long,
flowing hair. Then came his mother’s silky undershirts. Half a year into preschool, J. started
becoming agitated when asked to wear boys’ clothing.

En route to a mall with her son, Ms. B. had an epiphany: “It just clicked in me. I said, ‘You really
want to wear a dress, don’t you?’ ”

Thus began what the B.’s, who asked their full names not be used to protect their son’s privacy,
call “the reluctant path,” a behind-closed-doors struggle to come to terms with a gender-variant
child — a spirited 5-year-old boy who, at least for now, strongly identifies as a girl, requests to be
called “she” and asks to wear pigtails and pink jumpers to school.

Ms. B., 41, a lawyer, accepted the way her son defined himself after she and her husband consulted
with a psychologist and observed his newfound comfort with his choice. But she feels the precarious
nature of the day-to-day reality. “It’s hard to convey the relentlessness of it, she said, “every social
encounter, every time you go out to eat, every day feeling like a balance between your kid’s
self-esteem and protecting him from the hostile outside world.”

The prospect of cross-dressing kindergartners has sparked a deep philosophical divide
among professionals over how best to counsel families. Is it healthier for families to follow the
child’s lead, or to spare children potential humiliation and isolation by steering them toward accepting
their biological gender until they are older?

Both sides in the debate underscore their concern for the profound vulnerability of such
youngsters, symbolized by occurrences like the murder in 2002 of Gwen Araujo, a transgender
teenager born as Eddie, southeast of Oakland.

“Parents now are looking for advice on how to make life reasonable for their kids — whether to
allow cross-dressing in public, and how to protect them from the savagery of other children,”
said Dr. Herbert Schreier, a psychiatrist with Children’s Hospital and Research Center in Oakland.

Dr. Schreier is one of a growing number of professionals who have begun to think of gender
variance as a naturally occurring phenomenon rather than a disorder. “These kids are becoming
more aware of how it is to be themselves,” he said.

In past generations, so-called sissy boys and tomboy girls were made to conform, based on
the belief that their behaviors were largely products of dysfunctional homes.

Among the revisionists is Dr. Edgardo Menvielle, a child-adolescent psychiatrist at the
Children’s National Medical Center in Washington who started a national outreach group for
parents of gender-variant children in 1998 that now has more than 200 participants.
“We know that sexually marginalized children have a higher rate of depression and suicide attempts,”
Dr. Menvielle said. “The goal is for the child to be well adjusted, healthy and have good self-esteem.
What’s not important is molding their gender.”

The literature on adults who are transgender was hardly consoling to one parent, a 42-year-old
software consultant in Massachusetts and the father of a gender-variant third grader. “You’re
trudging through this tragic, horrible stuff and realizing not a single person was accepted and
understood as a child,” he said. “You read it and think, O.K., best to avoid that. But as a parent
you’re in this complete terra incognita.”

The biological underpinnings of gender identity, much like sexual orientation, remain something of a
mystery, though many researchers suspect it is linked with hormone exposure in the developing fetus.

Studies suggest that most boys with gender variance early in childhood grow up to be gay, and about
a quarter heterosexual, Dr. Menvielle said. Only a small fraction grow up to identify as transgender.

Girls with gender-variant behavior, who have been studied less, voice extreme unhappiness
about being a girl and talk about wanting to have male anatomy. But research has thus far
suggested that most wind up as heterosexual women.

Although many children role-play involving gender, Dr. Menvielle said, “the key question is how
intense and persistent the behavior is,” especially if they show extreme distress.

Dr. Robin Dea, the director of regional mental health for Kaiser Permanente in Northern California,
said: “Our gender identity is something we feel in our soul. But it is also a continuum, and it evolves.”

Dr. Dea works with four or five children under the age of 15 who are essentially living as
the opposite sex. “They are much happier, and their grades are up,” she said. “I’m waiting for
the study that says supporting these children is negative.”

But Dr. Kenneth Zucker, a psychologist and head of the gender-identity service at the Center
for Addiction and Mental Health in Toronto, disagrees with the “free to be” approach with young
children and cross-dressing in public. Over the past 30 years, Dr. Zucker has treated about 500
preadolescent gender-variant children. In his studies, 80 percent grow out of the behavior, but
15 percent to 20 percent continue to be distressed about their gender and may ultimately change
their sex.

Dr. Zucker tries to “help these kids be more content in their biological gender” until they
are older and can determine their sexual identity — accomplished, he said, by encouraging same-sex
friendships and activities like board games that move beyond strict gender roles.

Though she has not encountered such a situation, Jennifer Schwartz, assistant principal of
Chatham Elementary School outside Springfield, Ill., said that allowing a child to express gender
differences “would be very difficult to pull off” there.

Ms. Schwartz added: “I’m not sure it’s worth the damage it could cause the child, with all the
prejudices and parents possibly protesting. I’m not sure a child that age is ready to make that
kind of decision.”

The B.’s thought long and hard about what they had observed in their son. They have carefully
choreographed his life, monitoring new playmates, selecting a compatible school, finding sympathetic
parents in a babysitting co-op. Nevertheless, Ms. B. said, “there is still the stomach-clenching fear
for your kid.”

It is indeed heartbreaking to hear a child say, as J. did recently, “It feels like a nightmare I’m a boy.”

The adjustment has been gradual for Mr. B., a 43-year-old public school administrator who is
trying to stop calling J. “our little man.” He thinks of his son as a positive, resilient person, and
his love and admiration show. “The truth is, is any parent going to choose this for their kid?” he
said. “It’s who your kid is.”

Families are caught in the undertow of conflicting approaches. One suburban Chicago mother, who did
not want to be identified, said in a telephone interview that she was drawing the line on dress and
trying to provide “boy opportunities” for her 6-year-old son. “But we can’t make everything a power
struggle,” she said. “It gets exhausting.”

She worries about him becoming a social outcast. “Why does your brother like girl things?” friends
of her 10-year-old ask. The answer is always, “I don’t know.”

Nila Marrone, a retired linguistics professor at the University of Connecticut who consults with
parents and schools, recalled an incident last year at a Bronx elementary school in which an
8-year-old boy perceived as effeminate was thrown into a large trash bin by a group of boys.
The principal, she said, “suggested to the mother that she was to blame, for not having taught
her son how to be tough enough.”

But the tide is turning.

The Los Angeles Unified School District, for instance, requires that students be addressed with
“a name and pronoun that corresponds to the gender identity.” It also asks schools to provide
a locker room or changing area that corresponds to a student’s chosen gender.

One of the most controversial issues concerns the use of “blockers,” hormones used to
delay the onset of puberty in cases where it could be psychologically devastating (for instance,
a girl who identifies as a boy might slice her wrists when she gets her period). Some doctors
disapprove of blockers, arguing that only at puberty does an individual fully appreciate their gender
identity.

Catherine Tuerk, a nurse-psychotherapist at the children’s hospital in Washington and the
mother of a gender-variant child in the 1970s, says parents are still left to find their own way.
She recalls how therapists urged her to steer her son into psychoanalysis and “hypermasculine
activities” like karate. She said she and her husband became “gender cops.”

“It was always, ‘You’re not kicking the ball hard enough,’ ” she said.

Ms. Tuerk’s son, now 30, is gay and a father, and her own thinking has evolved since she was
a young parent. “People are beginning to understand this seems to be something that happens,”
she said. “But there was a whole lifetime of feeling we could never leave him alone.”


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Posted : 06/12/2006 7:41 pm
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Just when you thought the 'kwa couldn't get any sicker.


 
Posted : 06/12/2006 7:54 pm
Donnachaidh
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Did society have these problems before the advent of kosher psychoanalysis? This has got to be one of the sickest articles I've read in a long time. A 2 x 4 across the head is probably all most of these kids need in the way of therapy. Other than that, let them keep it in the closet where it was before it became fashionable to be a pervert.


The Western democracy of today is the forerunner of Marxism which without it would not be thinkable. It provides this world plague with the culture in which its germs can spread.

-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

 
Posted : 06/12/2006 8:13 pm
elbwgreez
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That's real nice. Let's fuck up his whole life by not giving him some tough love.


 
Posted : 06/12/2006 9:49 pm
Schnee Weiss
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I find this to be total BS!! What 3-year-old boy acts like a girl unless he is "encouraged" to act like a girl by his parents? What did they do, wish they had a girl and so dressed him in dresses, didn't cut his hair and gave him girl toys to play with?

Chosen gender....what crap!



"Henceforth no Jew, no matter under what name, will be allowed to remain here without my written permission. I know of no other troublesome pest within the state than this race, which impoverished the people by their fraud, usury and money-lending and commits all deeds which an honorable man despises. Subsequently they have to be removed and excluded from here as much as possible."
MARIA THERESA, Queen of Hungary and Bohemia (1771 - 1789)

 
Posted : 06/12/2006 11:59 pm
krrpt
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"In a civilization where equality is the standard, where differences are not linked, where promiscuity is in favor, where the ancient idea of 'being true to oneself' means nothing anymore--in such a splintered and materialistic society, it is clear that this phenomenon of regression and homosexuality should be particularly welcome, and therefore it is no way a surprise to see the alarming increase in homosexuality and the 'third sex' in the latest democratic' period, or an increase in sex changes to an extent unparalleled in other eras" - Julius Evola


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Posted : 07/12/2006 12:14 am
T. Kadijevic
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Posts: 2179
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I find this to be total BS!! What 3-year-old boy acts like a girl unless he is "encouraged" to act like a girl by his parents? What did they do, wish they had a girl and so dressed him in dresses, didn't cut his hair and gave him girl toys to play with?

Chosen gender....what crap!

Who the #### comes up with this $$$$????

I think its absolutely VILE to even condition a boy to be a girl or vice versa because some "medical professional" feels it apt to do so outside their own inner circle. :mad: This is equivalent, if not surpassing child abuse!!!! And the parents who nurture it should have their children taken away while they're in jail.

This comes from the same group that says, if you don't support homosexuality that you yourself are a self hating one.


"Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him...." ------ John 8:44

 
Posted : 07/12/2006 5:06 am
Charlie-Horse
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http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/02/us/02child.html

Supporting Boys or Girls When the Line Isn’t Clear

A boy, 5, left, who identifies as a girl, plays with a friend in Northern California.
He began emulating girls shortly after turning 3.

By PATRICIA LEIGH BROWN
Published: December 2, 2006

OAKLAND, Calif., Dec. 1 — Until recently, many children who did not conform to gender norms in their
clothing or behavior and identified intensely with the opposite sex were steered to psychoanalysis
or behavior modification.

But as advocates gain ground for what they call gender-identity rights, evidenced most recently
by New York City’s decision to let people alter the sex listed on their birth certificates, a major
change is taking place among schools and families. Children as young as 5 who display predispositions
to dress like the opposite sex are being supported by a growing number of young parents, educators
and mental health professionals.

Doctors, some of them from the top pediatric hospitals, have begun to advise families to let these children
be “who they are” to foster a sense of security and self-esteem. They are motivated, in part, by the
high incidence of depression, suicidal feelings and self-mutilation that has been common in past
generations of transgender children. Legal trends suggest that schools are now required to respect
parents’ decisions.

“First we became sensitive to two mommies and two daddies,” said Reynaldo Almeida, the director of
the Aurora School, a progressive private school in Oakland. “Now it’s kids who come to school who
aren’t gender typical.”

The supportive attitudes are far easier to find in traditionally tolerant areas of the country like
San Francisco than in other parts, but even in those places there is fierce debate over how
best to handle the children.

Cassandra Reese, a first-grade teacher outside Boston, recalled that fellow teachers were unnerved
when a young boy showed up in a skirt. “They said, ‘This is not normal,’ and, ‘It’s the parents’ fault,’ ”
Ms. Reese said. “They didn’t see children as sophisticated enough to verbalize their feelings.”

As their children head into adolescence, some parents are choosing to block puberty medically to buy
time for them to figure out who they are — raising a host of ethical questions.

While these children are still relatively rare, doctors say the number of referrals is rising across
the nation. Massachusetts,
Minnesota, California, New Jersey and the District of Columbia have laws protecting the rights of
transgender students, and some schools are engaged in a steep learning curve to dismantle gender
stereotypes.

At the Park Day School in Oakland, teachers are taught a gender-neutral vocabulary and are urged
to line up students by sneaker color rather than by gender. “We are careful not to create a situation
where students are being boxed in,” said Tom Little, the school’s director. “We allow them
to move back and forth until something feels right.”

For families, it can be a long, emotional adjustment. Shortly after her son’s third birthday, Pam B.
and her husband, Joel, began a parental journey for which there was no map. It started when their
son, J., began wearing oversized T-shirts and wrapping a towel around his head to emulate long,
flowing hair. Then came his mother’s silky undershirts. Half a year into preschool, J. started
becoming agitated when asked to wear boys’ clothing.

En route to a mall with her son, Ms. B. had an epiphany: “It just clicked in me. I said, ‘You really
want to wear a dress, don’t you?’ ”

Thus began what the B.’s, who asked their full names not be used to protect their son’s privacy,
call “the reluctant path,” a behind-closed-doors struggle to come to terms with a gender-variant
child — a spirited 5-year-old boy who, at least for now, strongly identifies as a girl, requests to be
called “she” and asks to wear pigtails and pink jumpers to school.

Ms. B., 41, a lawyer, accepted the way her son defined himself after she and her husband consulted
with a psychologist and observed his newfound comfort with his choice. But she feels the precarious
nature of the day-to-day reality. “It’s hard to convey the relentlessness of it, she said, “every social
encounter, every time you go out to eat, every day feeling like a balance between your kid’s
self-esteem and protecting him from the hostile outside world.”

The prospect of cross-dressing kindergartners has sparked a deep philosophical divide
among professionals over how best to counsel families. Is it healthier for families to follow the
child’s lead, or to spare children potential humiliation and isolation by steering them toward accepting
their biological gender until they are older?

Both sides in the debate underscore their concern for the profound vulnerability of such
youngsters, symbolized by occurrences like the murder in 2002 of Gwen Araujo, a transgender
teenager born as Eddie, southeast of Oakland.

“Parents now are looking for advice on how to make life reasonable for their kids — whether to
allow cross-dressing in public, and how to protect them from the savagery of other children,”
said Dr. Herbert Schreier, a psychiatrist with Children’s Hospital and Research Center in Oakland.

Dr. Schreier is one of a growing number of professionals who have begun to think of gender
variance as a naturally occurring phenomenon rather than a disorder. “These kids are becoming
more aware of how it is to be themselves,” he said.

In past generations, so-called sissy boys and tomboy girls were made to conform, based on
the belief that their behaviors were largely products of dysfunctional homes.

Among the revisionists is Dr. Edgardo Menvielle, a child-adolescent psychiatrist at the
Children’s National Medical Center in Washington who started a national outreach group for
parents of gender-variant children in 1998 that now has more than 200 participants.
“We know that sexually marginalized children have a higher rate of depression and suicide attempts,”
Dr. Menvielle said. “The goal is for the child to be well adjusted, healthy and have good self-esteem.
What’s not important is molding their gender.”

The literature on adults who are transgender was hardly consoling to one parent, a 42-year-old
software consultant in Massachusetts and the father of a gender-variant third grader. “You’re
trudging through this tragic, horrible stuff and realizing not a single person was accepted and
understood as a child,” he said. “You read it and think, O.K., best to avoid that. But as a parent
you’re in this complete terra incognita.”

The biological underpinnings of gender identity, much like sexual orientation, remain something of a
mystery, though many researchers suspect it is linked with hormone exposure in the developing fetus.

Studies suggest that most boys with gender variance early in childhood grow up to be gay, and about
a quarter heterosexual, Dr. Menvielle said. Only a small fraction grow up to identify as transgender.

Girls with gender-variant behavior, who have been studied less, voice extreme unhappiness
about being a girl and talk about wanting to have male anatomy. But research has thus far
suggested that most wind up as heterosexual women.

Although many children role-play involving gender, Dr. Menvielle said, “the key question is how
intense and persistent the behavior is,” especially if they show extreme distress.

Dr. Robin Dea, the director of regional mental health for Kaiser Permanente in Northern California,
said: “Our gender identity is something we feel in our soul. But it is also a continuum, and it evolves.”

Dr. Dea works with four or five children under the age of 15 who are essentially living as
the opposite sex. “They are much happier, and their grades are up,” she said. “I’m waiting for
the study that says supporting these children is negative.”

But Dr. Kenneth Zucker, a psychologist and head of the gender-identity service at the Center
for Addiction and Mental Health in Toronto, disagrees with the “free to be” approach with young
children and cross-dressing in public. Over the past 30 years, Dr. Zucker has treated about 500
preadolescent gender-variant children. In his studies, 80 percent grow out of the behavior, but
15 percent to 20 percent continue to be distressed about their gender and may ultimately change
their sex.

Dr. Zucker tries to “help these kids be more content in their biological gender” until they
are older and can determine their sexual identity — accomplished, he said, by encouraging same-sex
friendships and activities like board games that move beyond strict gender roles.

Though she has not encountered such a situation, Jennifer Schwartz, assistant principal of
Chatham Elementary School outside Springfield, Ill., said that allowing a child to express gender
differences “would be very difficult to pull off” there.

Ms. Schwartz added: “I’m not sure it’s worth the damage it could cause the child, with all the
prejudices and parents possibly protesting. I’m not sure a child that age is ready to make that
kind of decision.”

The B.’s thought long and hard about what they had observed in their son. They have carefully
choreographed his life, monitoring new playmates, selecting a compatible school, finding sympathetic
parents in a babysitting co-op. Nevertheless, Ms. B. said, “there is still the stomach-clenching fear
for your kid.”

It is indeed heartbreaking to hear a child say, as J. did recently, “It feels like a nightmare I’m a boy.”

The adjustment has been gradual for Mr. B., a 43-year-old public school administrator who is
trying to stop calling J. “our little man.” He thinks of his son as a positive, resilient person, and
his love and admiration show. “The truth is, is any parent going to choose this for their kid?” he
said. “It’s who your kid is.”

Families are caught in the undertow of conflicting approaches. One suburban Chicago mother, who did
not want to be identified, said in a telephone interview that she was drawing the line on dress and
trying to provide “boy opportunities” for her 6-year-old son. “But we can’t make everything a power
struggle,” she said. “It gets exhausting.”

She worries about him becoming a social outcast. “Why does your brother like girl things?” friends
of her 10-year-old ask. The answer is always, “I don’t know.”

Nila Marrone, a retired linguistics professor at the University of Connecticut who consults with
parents and schools, recalled an incident last year at a Bronx elementary school in which an
8-year-old boy perceived as effeminate was thrown into a large trash bin by a group of boys.
The principal, she said, “suggested to the mother that she was to blame, for not having taught
her son how to be tough enough.”

But the tide is turning.

The Los Angeles Unified School District, for instance, requires that students be addressed with
“a name and pronoun that corresponds to the gender identity.” It also asks schools to provide
a locker room or changing area that corresponds to a student’s chosen gender.

One of the most controversial issues concerns the use of “blockers,” hormones used to
delay the onset of puberty in cases where it could be psychologically devastating (for instance,
a girl who identifies as a boy might slice her wrists when she gets her period). Some doctors
disapprove of blockers, arguing that only at puberty does an individual fully appreciate their gender
identity.

Catherine Tuerk, a nurse-psychotherapist at the children’s hospital in Washington and the
mother of a gender-variant child in the 1970s, says parents are still left to find their own way.
She recalls how therapists urged her to steer her son into psychoanalysis and “hypermasculine
activities” like karate. She said she and her husband became “gender cops.”

“It was always, ‘You’re not kicking the ball hard enough,’ ” she said.

Ms. Tuerk’s son, now 30, is gay and a father, and her own thinking has evolved since she was
a young parent. “People are beginning to understand this seems to be something that happens,”
she said. “But there was a whole lifetime of feeling we could never leave him alone.”

He will probably grow up to become a serial killer like Bundy.


The ugly Hun.

 
Posted : 07/12/2006 5:40 am
EireannGoddess
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Posts: 157
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Who the #### comes up with this $$$$????

The juden.


 
Posted : 07/12/2006 6:31 am
(@john-bender)
Posts: 1057
Noble Member
 

I find this to be total BS!! What 3-year-old boy acts like a girl unless he is "encouraged" to act like a girl by his parents? What did they do, wish they had a girl and so dressed him in dresses, didn't cut his hair and gave him girl toys to play with?

Chosen gender....what crap!

Very true, toddlers are by no means developed enough to make decisions about their own sexuality. I wouldn't be surprised if these transvestite toddlers have homosexual parents, or some twisted parent that wishes they had a girl instead of a boy, or vice versa.


 
Posted : 07/12/2006 11:28 am
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Posts: 5
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As a mother of a toddler this makes me sick. This is so wrong.


 
Posted : 07/12/2006 5:22 pm
Quietus
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Posts: 841
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Social engineering.


"At every door-way,
ere one enters,
one should spy round,
one should pry round
for uncertain is the witting
that there be no foeman sitting,
within, before one on the floor." -Odin, from the Hávamál (Olive Bray's translation)

 
Posted : 07/12/2006 5:26 pm
Gerald Wheeler
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Posts: 191
Reputable Member
 

Social engineering.

LOL, yeah! and by kikes who are certain that the lemmings they are molding have no idea of how the nuts and bolts are supposed to be threaded.


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________________

 
Posted : 07/12/2006 7:21 pm
(@conan-the-warlord)
Posts: 184
Estimable Member
 

In the future, those transgendered kids will be able to marry the pedophile of their choice. Amerikwa - what a country!

The Warlord


 
Posted : 08/12/2006 3:32 pm
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