Well, if we did have absolute equality of the Races as Edgar advocated, the niggers would either be back in the cotton patches or in the slammers.

That doesnt make any sense.

Now as to your attack on my person,
You want me to throw tabloids to lots of mexicans and a few niggers telling them to save the white race? Tabloids are useless to me.

I just cant get over why Mr. Steele would proclaim without any prompting by the host, 'Im for absolute equality, for all races!'.

WTF?

What he was saying is that, if we were all on a level playing field. The best the niggers can hope for, is to be bottom of the barrel. I'm not trying to put words in Mr. Steele's mouth, but that is how I took it.

Tench, don't take everything so literally. This is how most Americans have been so brainwashed. You have to read between the lines, and if your dealing with the jew just remember, what you see and hear is, not the truth.

Use your imagination a little, and peel back the veneer of what is being said.

Things are not always, as they seem. Intellectualy, Steele could mop the floor, with Douchbag, and he knew it. That is why, they interrupred him, cut to commercial, and god knows, what they left on the editing floor. They pulled out all stops to make him look bad. This TV stuff, is Jewland, and they cheat, and lie, to make themselves look good. He was on their turf.

I have read Steele's book, get a copy for yourself, and there he was able to communicate, without the jew tactics. I highly recommend it.

Tench, never, and I repeat never, take anything at face value.

Send that to Mr. Steele via email. He needs stock responses of that caliber. And he needs to stop being such a nice white man when debating with jews. Since debating with jews is really just arguing. He does a good job of keeping his cool and staying levelheaded, like the good guy he is, but he needs a set of memorized responses with which to stun an opponent with shock and awe.

Too many times he tried to hold up his hands and do the "yes yes that may be true and I agree with you somewhat". Too much moderation.

Seriously, send him that and urge him to memorize it for his next Holohoax debate with some rabid jew. That's just the kind of thing he needs to respond to their antics.

I would if I thought it would do any good at all. Unfortunately, I think that Mr. Steele is the way he is and won't change his style to suit our criticisms. He is a smart man and I know he has carefully thought out how he wishes to present himself. The fact is, he clearly does not see this struggle in precisely the way we do. I think he thinks he went on that show to "persuade" the audience, rather than to shame and destroy that haughty kike on is own show. He's too timid, but I doubt he'd agree with that criticism.

First and foremost, keep in mind my objective: to advance and protect the cause of the Gaedes. That I am doing this pro bono is of no consequence to the thrust of my efforts. Some of that objective is shielded from view and will continue to be so for a few months. Then, and only then, will I come forward and make clear what we have been trying to accomplish with these few (by choice) public appearances and statements.

Second, in advancing the Gaedes' cause, I play within the bounds of my ethics and beliefs. Always, advancing the cause of our people is a leading force for me, but do not expect me to subscribe to every single belief thrown out in forums such as this, or expressed by other WN leaders, both past and present. While I follow my own path, not another's, my writing speaks very clearly about what I consider to be important. I will stack my core beliefs and ethics against those of anybody else, as well as my results.

Persuasion is a tricky thing. It rarely results from direct confrontation or the power of one's logic. You in the choir want bread and circuses designed for your consumption, but that would be least productive in a situation like that presented the other day on CNBC.

For example, when Deutsch turned and challenged me to tell him how many died in the Holocaust, here's the line that floated across my mind, as though on a teleprompter: "You want to know how many Jews died in the Holocaust, Donny? Well, I'll tell you, you hypocritical, bloodthirsty little Jew prick: not enough." It would have been great theatre and you would have loved it, as would Deutsch and his producers because it would be like taking out a pistol and blowing out my brains on national TV.

My actual response, "One would be too many, but 6 million is an exagerration because they keep changing the sign out in front of Auschwitz......." was the perfect response for our agenda for the Gaedes, not to mention those watching whom I wished to reach.

Those who have read the chapter entitled "Treading Water," from my book, know that objectives are of utmost importance to me. Maintaining a slightly aloof manner in the face of the rabid host and the doofus guests he brought in to support his case was just the right touch, I believe. It evoked sympathy from those who disliked his mouth frothing and provided a dignity and a distinct contrast to my position versus theirs - much needed when I do things like challenge the Holocaust or state that I would prohibit my children from dating Blacks.

To those who say how much more effective they would have been, had they just had the chance to get in Deutsch's face and berate other races with the facts and the sheer power of their logic, I say, "You've got to be kidding!" (Seriously, I hope they are, but I fear not, which is why "the movement" has such dreadful results in general to show for its efforts.)

Take a lesson from the Prussian Blue melodrama and note how self-defeating are symbols such as swastikas, skinhead dress, Roman salutes and blind obeisance to things German or Hitler, not to mention membership in groups that prominently employ such symbols.

Hitler lost. Get over it. Or - do you fancy yourself more adept than was he, such that you somehow will prevail using his blueprints? And, don't forget that Nazi stands for National Socialist - that's socialist, as in big government. Big government, when it does work, only works for a brief time, then it degenerates into tyranny.

-ed

I think we all understand what you were attempting by being "civilized" and I respect the fact it was your appearance and you were tasked with defending the twins, and you did a creditable job of it. And while some of us may simply have wished to see some Jew blood on the floor, I think I fundamentally disagree with you that you will persuade Sally Soccer Mom (if that's who you're going after) by conceding MAJOR points to Jews, such as that Hitler was evil, or Hitler killed Jews, etc. At a minimum you could have said you weren't there to discuss a war that was settled 60 years ago, but that you were there to discuss the girls.

Your last sentence on National Socialism and big government, however, implies that you believe VNNers are a bunch of Adam Smith-reading, free market conservatives. While there may be a few such types crawling around here somewhere, I don't think they number more than a handful. As GLR said: "I'ts not big government we should be worried about, it's bad government, evil men in government."

Just my $0.02

RE: Ed Steele

Thank you for standing up for the Gaedes. I think that you did an excellent job on the show considering the circumstances.

However, I do mildly disagree with you on your position with regard to Nazi symbolism hurting our cause. That is a topic for another thread.

I think that you are a damn fine White man and a credit to our race. I also enjoy your nickel rants. Keep’em coming!

Thanks again for your work on behalf of all White folk!

Yours Sincerely,

brutus

Your last sentence on National Socialism and big government, however, implies that you believe VNNers are a bunch of Adam Smith-reading, free market conservatives. While there may be a few such types crawling around here somewhere, I don't think they number more than a handful. As GLR said: "I'ts not big government we should be worried about, it's bad government, evil men in government."

Just my $0.02

Agreed. Why should we fear a government that is run by our people, in the interests of our people? In such a case we should WANT big government, in a sense.

Agreed. Why should we fear a government that is run by our people, in the interests of our people? In such a case we should WANT big government, in a sense.

That depends on what each person defines as 'their people' and 'their interests', including you.

That depends on what each person defines as 'their people' and 'their interests', including you.

So you don't believe that our race, and the peoples of our nations, the biological peoples, have collective interests?

I'm a fascist and believe that a country should be run by a genius rather than the collective stupidity of the masses. If the current situation in America and Europe isn't enough to convice you of the stupidity of the average person (regardless of race) then nothing will.

Hitler lost. Get over it. Or - do you fancy yourself more adept than was he, such that you somehow will prevail using his blueprints? And, don't forget that Nazi stands for National Socialist - that's socialist, as in big government. Big government, when it does work, only works for a brief time, then it degenerates into tyranny.

National socialism does not require big government, any more than markets require federal regulations.

Edit: Tearing down a Jewish power structure, however, might require a big government. If there's a political vacuum, you can depend on power being seized by the group most advantageously positioned. As long as there's a threat of Jewish takeover, there must be a pro-White force able to beat them to the punch, or else just plain out punch them. Apart from the threat of alien impositions, though, there's no reason national socialism could not be carried on locally.

Jerry Abbott

I'm a fascist and believe that a country should be run by a genius rather than the collective stupidity of the masses. If the current situation in America and Europe isn't enough to convice you of the stupidity of the average person (regardless of race) then nothing will.

The natural "stupidity" of the masses, varies depending on the society. Why has American society become increasingly stupid over the past few decades? Look at what American society teaches its young. It teaches to appreciate style over intelligence, image over reality. This is a society that degrades people who are intelligent, and praises people who play kids' games for millions of dollars. Our society encourages and praises conformity to fashion and artificially created trends and sub-cultures. The line between news and entertainment is becoming blurred, where stories and exposes about Hollywood celebrities leave no room for serious issues to be discussed in detail. TV dramas boasting "realistic" story lines "ripped-from-the-headlines" give us sanitized, processed stories where real-world issues are diluted down to over simplistic good vs. evil morality plays. We have an ever-growing number of "pundits", loud mouth idiots who have the audacity to assure their audiences that they are the best informed- all the while nobody notices that pundits exist to replace actual news gathering.

In short, American society is stupid because it wants stupidity and it promotes stupidity. An ideal society, a genuinely Aryan society, is one that promotes education, discussion, and pursuit of truth throughout the individual's life. The threat of massification and group-think is greatly reduced if not nearly erradicated simply by creating a society in which the people are continually made aware of that threat, and thus are able to remain vigilant against it.

There is no way we could call ourselves nationalists were we not by definition- socialist. The practice of socialism in European societies is far older than the word itself. It is this practice that helped Europeans in some of the harshest weather conditions on Earth.

RE: JP

In short, American society is stupid because it wants stupidity and it promotes stupidity.

With the exception of the usual small statistical moron percentage, there are no real White parents who wish for their children to be stupid or under-educated. Quite the contrary. It is the jew’s influence that appeals to the lowest common denominator and that is erroneously touted as the norm, and it is not.

An ideal society, a genuinely Aryan society, is one that promotes education, discussion, and pursuit of truth throughout the individual's life.

Surely we can point to ideals, but in this case it would be more appropriate to point to the Aryan world without the jew’s influence as a model. That would more then certainly approach the Aryan ideal society then any other scenario with the jew still being present.

In 1833, before the jew had control of America’s educational system, William Holmes McGuffey introduced his text books to the American education system called, The McGuffey Readers. This series of text books were America’s elementary school standard texts for over one hundred years.

The high academic caliber of The McGuffey Readers, outlined below, will give us some indication by comparison of just how jewed-down America‘s kids are today.

THE MCGUFFEY READERS

In 1833, a small publishing company called Truman and Smith based in Cincinnati, Ohio, became interested in the idea of school texts. Truman and Smith began scouting for an eminent educator who could create a series of readers They happened upon Rev. William Holmes McGuffey.

Rev. William Holmes McGuffey had already planned a series of readers and had published his first reader. This first reader of 1841 introduces children to McGuffey's ethical code. The child modeled in this book is prompt, good, kind, honest and truthful. This first book contained fifty-five lessons.

The second reader appeared simultaneously with the first and followed the same pattern. It contained reading and spelling with eighty-five lessons, sixteen pictures and one-hundred sixty-six pages. It outlined history, biology, astronomy, zoology, botany; table manners, behavior towards family, attitudes toward God and teachers, the poor; the great and the good. The duties of youth are stressed. Millions of pioneer men and women were alumni of this second reader college, they were able to read and write English.

The third reader was much more formal. It contained rules for oral reading of it's fifty-seven lessons. This book contained only three pictures and was designed for a more mature mind, of junior high standing today.

The fourth reader was an introduction to good literature. It contained British poetry and used the Bible among it's selections. This text was addressed to the highest grade in schools, it's difficulty compared to that of American secondary schools. It discussed Napoleon Bonaparte, Puritan fathers, women, God, education, religion and philosophy.

The fifth reader was designed for elocutionary exercises to increase articulation, inflection, pitch, accent, rate, emphasis and gesture. It contained poetry and prose by Sigourney, Montgomery, Addison, Irving, Young and Byron.

In the sixth and final reader of 1885, there were 186 selections, 111 great authors were quoted such as Shakespeare, Longfellow, Dickens and Addison. The theme of the selections included several forms of composition, description, narration, argumentation and exposition. In this book there were also seventeen selections from the Bible.

The readers were very moralistic in tone. They presented the White, Anglo-Saxon, Protestant as the model American.

These "eclectic readers" - meaning that the selections were chosen from a number of sources - were considered remarkably literary works and probably exerted a greater influence upon literary tastes in the United States more than any other book, excluding the Bible.

Edit: Tearing down a Jewish power structure, however, might require a big government.

That is the WHOLE reason we need NS right now. Afterwards who cares what type of govt there is... it's all partisian in nature anyways. When the non whites are gone NS will no longer be needed until the degeneracy of xtianity threatens the welfare of the white race. At that time NS many need to rear it's head once more.

Hitler lost.

Did he lose to a horde of libertarian advocates of limited government?

My recollection is that the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics won.

I also recall that John Kenneth Galbraith ran the American war economy on the basis of complete coordination of resources (I think that's called socialism).

Same thing in the UK - and after the war the Beveridge Plan was imposed, adding a welfare state to the planned economy.

Looks like big-government socialism is a winner!

Take a lesson from the Prussian Blue melodrama and note how self-defeating are symbols such as swastikas, skinhead dress, Roman salutes and blind obeisance to things German or Hitler, not to mention membership in groups that prominently employ such symbols.

Want to win?

Shed your uniform and offer your services to the enemy.