Subrosa's got the right idea here. They're not going to be able to overwhelm us if we defeat our common enemy. So long as they evacuate White lands, I think we could hammer out an agreement with these people.

Be careful there, s-8, you're not towing the party line here. Rounder, silverstein and the other moslem-invaders-of-white-nations-are-our-friends apparatchiki will be giving you a good ass whoopin' if you talk like that.

I'd love to see a group formed called "Gentiles against Jews" ( or something similar) composed of all races, religions, and ethnic groups except jews. And whose sole purpose would be to EXPOSE and OPPOSE the ZOGs and international jewish criminals.

Such a group would completely destroy the jews' race cards and brain-washed, guilt-ridden Whites would be far more apt to listen to, join, and support them, than WN groups.

Your last 2 sentences are especially right "on the money".

(Now, let's sit back and enjoy crypto kike ravings against this idea)

A great idea, Glenn. Really, I mean it.

After we send all of the hispanics south of the Rio Grande, the blacks back to Africa, the orientals across the Pacific and the moslems back to their moslem nations then the white nations can form an alliance with the non-white gentile nations against the jews.

Brilliant. I concur.

By asserting our solidarity while we continue to properly educate our people about the jewish menace, we are increasing our chances of freedom from the jews, therefore racial survival on the earth.

Now do you understand ??

While you concentrate solely on educating our people about the jews, the jews concentrate on flooding the white nations with moslems and non-whites. Before you solve the jewish problem, the jews will have solved the 'white problem'.

The jews AND the moslems/non-whites are problems. TWO problems, Glenn, TWO. Is it that difficult for you to pay attention to TWO problems at the same time?

Now do you understand?

That's it in a nutshell. Anyone that doesn't understand what Rounder just said is not in the struggle. Those types will continue to fight the symptom and not treat the disease, and in the process ensure our defeat.

If you are going to use a medical metaphor, then you should understand that a doctor treats the symptoms AND the disease at the same time. If a patient has a 103 degree temperature as the result of a bacterial infection, the doctor tries to bring the fever down (as it is a danger in itself) AND kill the bacteria causing the fever. It does no good to only kill the bacteria if the patient dies from the fever while he's doing that.

The moslems/non-whites are the fever, the jews are the bacteria.

Jeune Libertine: You should ask yourself why it is mostly Americans who are pushing this idea of an alliance with Islam, whereas European nationalist parties like the BNP and VB would even ally with the Jews against it

If what you say about the BNP and VB is true, then they've become accomplices of the jews and accessories in the jewish enslavement and genocide of their own people. Which are worse than innocent acts in futility.

Why is it, Glenn, that you write "if what you say"? JL is correct about the BNP and VB but you don't know that. You obviously don't keep current with what is happening in the world yet you pontificate vociferously on a subject which you know little about.

I would suggest that you spend more time reading on the internet than you do begging for money but...well, casting pearls etc.

you're nothing but a god damned smartass.

I can't speak to the issue of JL's eternal salvation but his ass is probably smarter than you are.

It would be like buying a rattlesnake that says he will only bite jews.

Brilliant metaphor.

bwana, you misunderstand the nature of the proposed "alliance" folks are making on here. none of us want the mudslims HERE. we don't want to let any more IN.

i think the point is two-fold, someone correct me if i'm wrong:

1. an alliance with moslem factions overseas to fight the jew in israel and the middle-east, as well as europe.

2. actually, i don't think it would do much good in the usa, now that i think of it]

Unbelievable. Truly unbelievable.

This is the first time that one of the pro-moslem, the-enemy-of-my-enemy-is-my-friend crowd has said that the WNs should ally with "with moslem factions overseas to fight the jew in israel and the middle-east, as well as europe."

This issue has been debated many times on VNN for months and the Rounder gang has consistently rejected the argument that WNs should support moslem nations in the struggle with the jews while demanding that all moslems be removed from white nations. Over and over this position has been rejected by the alliance-with-moslems clique. On this thread JohnJoyFree has argued elegantly for this position and been slandered as a jew for his efforts.

Now silverstein has the gall to pretend that that hasn't been the case. Oh no he equivocates, "bwana, you misunderstand the nature of the proposed "alliance" folks are making on here. none of us want the mudslims HERE. we don't want to let any more IN." but he doesn't say send the ones here back to their moslem nations. He calls for an alliance with " with moslem factions overseas to fight the jew in israel and the middle-east, as well as europe." Overseas! Logically implying NOT with the moslem faction this side of the sea in the white nations.

You seem to have stumbled over your own tongue here, silverstein. Rounders going to be pissed that you couldn't keep the party line straight in your head. Repeat after me, "All moslems are our friends until we defeat the jews". Memorize that slogan or its excommunication for you.

The man who believes that he has free will is more easily controlled since he will never think to look for the chains--Burrhus

[color="Red"]The jews are a problem--not our ONLY or SOLE problem, not responsible for EVERY problem faced by gentiles, not some ALL-POWERFUL race that we shouldn't bother trying to resist, not an EXCUSE for avoiding responsibilty for problems of our own making --but nonetheless, A REAL, SERIOUS PROBLEM.--Burrhus

 

If you are going to use a medical metaphor, then you should understand that a doctor treats the symptoms AND the disease at the same time. If a patient has a 103 degree temperature as the result of a bacterial infection, the doctor tries to bring the fever down (as it is a danger in itself) AND kill the bacteria causing the fever. It does no good to only kill the bacteria if the patient dies from the fever while he's doing that.

The moslems/non-whites are the fever, the jews are the bacteria.

If you believe in treating both the symptoms and the cause then why are you ignoring the cause and wasting all your effort on the sysmptoms when this only strengthens the hold of the cause?

A great idea, Glenn. Really, I mean it.

After we send all of the hispanics south of the Rio Grande, the blacks back to Africa, the orientals across the Pacific and the moslems back to their moslem nations then the white nations can form an alliance with the non-white gentile nations against the jews.

Brilliant. I concur.

"We"??? What's this "we" shit ?? You're not "we". You're "they", just like all do-nothing-contribute-nothing shabaaz goyim accomplices of the GD jews who bash Muslims freedom fighters against Isra-hell and the ZOGs - most likely the only hope for Aryan freedom from the jews, therefore White racial survival on this planet.

Go spend some time on govnn.com and get yourself jew-wise before spewing your apologies-for-the-jews, here. Your ignorant "poisons" adversely effect our efforts to properly educate guests and new-bees, the prerequisite to turning them into jew-wise activists.

You already made your bed in the Phora pit. Now go lay in it.

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to JohnJoyFree again.

Excellent post.

That was an ignorant post, on a par with anything from the Phora.

Many here have said the our mexican problem is akin to the muslim problem in Europe. Did you happen to view the attack on the minuteman speaker at columbia university? Did you notice who were attacking him? JEWS!

So again, what is the bigger problem in America? Mexicans, or jews that actively import and protect them? It's the same issue in Europe, just exchange mexican for muslim. The jew is the problem of the nations, and there will be no peace or separation until the jew is taken care of.

Anyone that thinks we are going to resolve our mud problem without first addressing the root cause (jews and the underlying economic system set up by them) is MAD! It's like saying we are going to compete with the jewsmedia for the hearts and minds of our people. It's impossible and has ZERO chance of success!!

If you believe in treating both the symptoms and the cause then why are you ignoring the cause and wasting all your effort on the sysmptoms when this only strengthens the hold of the cause?

Asking a question which contains unexamined assumptions appearing to be statements of fact is less than honest rhetoric, AL. I have been very consistent here and elsewhere in naming the jew as the most serious problem facing the white nations. To imply that I have ignored the Jewish Question is to falsely represent the case. You ought to read my posts before making such an implication.

That said, obviously I have neither wasted nor spent all of my effort on the moslem/non-white problem. I have been able to maintain my focus on both issues at the same time giving them relatively equal attention without losing sight of either. That is the course that seems necessary to me if the white nations are to rid themselves of this two-pronged menace to our survival.

Misrepresenting the position of another man is not in the best interest of honest debate.

Burrhus: Here's some advise for all jews. Sit down and look long and deeply into a mirror. Look at your eyes. Look long enough and you will see the real core of who you are: a lying, deceptive, parasitic, hate-filled, amoral, paranoid, emotionally stunted, self-hating member of the jewish race.

On a surface level, you no doubt see yourself as a normal, decent, honest person and good American (or whatever gentile nation you are currently invading). But that is a mask, a mask that has even you yourself fooled. You have come to believe that you are that mask. But deep down inside you know that you are not that mask. You are a jew.

You are an existentially sick man suffering from the horrible pain of severe cognitive dissonance. You believe that you are a decent human and at the same time you know that you are a deceptive, parasitic jew. The effort that you must make to keep these two perceptions of your divided self separated eats away at you. It leaves you confused and angry because you know that they cancel each other out and thus they cancel you out. You feel your own emptiness and that emptiness must be filled with something.

That emptiness is filled with rage and hatred for the victims of your race's parasitic behavior. The guilt of the core jew within you for your sins struggles with the false mask that you wear as an invader. That struggle is your hell and having to live surrounded by the omni-present and persistent images of the misery of your victims is the fire that burns in that jewish hell.

Look long and hard, jew, into that mirror. When you finally see that truth of what I have told you, when you see the core jew and the masked jew at the same time, when the pain and guilt from that awareness becomes unbearable, when living with the hate-filled emptiness that is what you are becomes intolerable, jew, you'll know what you have to do.

You will know that there is only one honorable thing to do. It is your salvation from the jewish hell that burns inside of you. Your suffering will end.

Do it

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"We"??? What's this "we" shit ?? You're not "we". You're "they", just like all do-nothing-contribute-nothing shabaaz goyim accomplices of the GD jews who bash Muslims freedom fighters against Isra-hell and the ZOGs - most likely the only hope for Aryan freedom from the jews, therefore White racial survival on this planet.

Go spend some time on govnn.com and get yourself jew-wise before spewing your apologies-for-the-jews, here. Your ignorant "poisons" adversely effect our efforts to properly educate guests and new-bees, the prerequisite to turning them into jew-wise activists.

You already made your bed in the Phora pit. Now go lay in it.

More dishonest rhetoric from Rounder. Misrepresenting another man's position. I have never "bashed moslem freedom fighters". If you believe that I have quote me. I have consistently supported the Palestinians, Hezbollah, Iran and all other moslem freedom fighters in their struggle against Israel.

Calling for the expulsion of moslems from white nations is not even remotely the same as "bashing" their activities in either their own nations or in Israel. That seems so patently obvious that I wonder why I even have to address the issue with you. Well....I don't really wonder.

If you want to get into a "who's a shabbos goy" shouting match feel free. Some days I think that you are an honest but not very intelligent WN and other days I am not so sure when I read your irrational, vituperative rants which serve little purpose other than turning off whites new to VNN. The jews and anti-racists love you Glenn, you do more for their cause than they can ever hope to do. You make White Nationalism look foolish to the unawakened. Which side are you really on?

For anyone who wonders which side I am on, I direct your attention to the quote written by me at the top of this post.

That was an ignorant post, on a par with anything from the Phora.

Many here have said the our mexican problem is akin to the muslim problem in Europe. Did you happen to view the attack on the minuteman speaker at columbia university? Did you notice who were attacking him? JEWS!

So again, what is the bigger problem in America? Mexicans, or jews that actively import and protect them? It's the same issue in Europe, just exchange mexican for muslim. The jew is the problem of the nations, and there will be no peace or separation until the jew is taken care of.

Anyone that thinks we are going to resolve our mud problem without first addressing the root cause (jews and the underlying economic system set up by them) is MAD! It's like saying we are going to compete with the jewsmedia for the hearts and minds of our people. It's impossible and has ZERO chance of success!!

You were the one who introduced the medical metaphor of symptom and disease, an apt one I might add. I provided a logical analysis of that metaphor which clearly demonstrates that one must treat both the symptoms and the disease at the same time. You have failed to address the logic inherent in your own metaphor choosing rather to respond with the party line, "All moslems are our friends until we defeat the jews".

I have consistently said that the jews are the most serious problem facing the white nations but that does not mean that solving the moslem/non-white problem can be put off until we solve the jewish problem. The fever untreated can kill you before you destroy the bacteria.

More evidence of my white gentile integrity and non-shabbos goy status in naming the jew and exposing his perfidy. Originally posted elsewhere.

Burrhus: When the police find a dead body, they first determine if a crime has been committed. If the death was the result of a crime,they then ask who had a motive, who benefits from the crime and did they have the means to do it.

When confronted with the 'holocaust' story, we must first determine if it is legitimate (true) or a crime (false). If it is a crime, then we must ask who had a motive, who benefits. We know the answer to that question...don't we?

For you to ask who is responsible for this crime when you don't believe that a crime has been committed is a bit disingenuous. There can be no answer that will satisfy you since you will reject the obvious answer that it was those who had a motive and who benefited from the crime. The jews.

The fact that denier/revisionists cannot give you a list of names is irrelevant if you you deny that a crime was committed. The question that you raised is little more than a red herring asked in order to side-track discussion from the more relevant question which is: was a crime (the 'holocaust' lie) committed? If the 'holocaust' is a lie, and thus a crime, then those responsible become obvious.

If you accept the fact that the 'holocaust' story is a crime, the culprits are easily unmasked. Stephen Wise would have to be at the head of the list along with other leaders of the hundreds of jewish advocacy groups around the world prior to, during and since WWII. Also guilty would be those jews in positions of political, financial and cultural power who had the means to carry out the crime. The Rothschilds, Sulzbergers, Morgenthau and all of their brethren who controlled the politicians, the economy and, especially, the media which had a dominant influence in perpetrating the crime and has continued to shape it and maintain an ever increasing strength of belief in it.

When one comes to see that the human species is divided into evolutionarily selected in-groups with strategies designed to enhance each in-group's survival in competition with the others, the picture becomes more clear.

The members of in-groups do not all get together secretly in some forest in Silesia and agree on a conspiracy plan to achieve their common goal as exterminationists sarcastically presume. Their co-ordinated behavior is the result of thousands of years of selection shaped by the success of what has worked for them historically. There is a continuous history of leaders, intelligentsia, myths, sacred texts, traditions and co-ordinated actions which have produced a specific in-group culture in the broadest sense of that word...everthing that is the product of behavior and the behavior itself.

Not all of the members of an in-group are privy to all of the behavior of their elite. And even the elite cannot or will not articulate the details of their culture's evolutionary strategy. The behavioral traits which comprise that strategy are the product of a very long developmental process and not always recognized as such by their practitioners. To the extent that members are aware of what they are doing, they realize that it is not wise to reveal their true intent to those other in-groups with whom they are in competition.

As long as in-groups are separated geographically there is no danger of cultural subversion from within. All within are in-group members. External danger from out-groups is the main threat and those can generally be recognized for what they are. Deceit by an out-group is unlikely since a major factor in the defintion of an out-group is that there is minimal trust accorded them. Trust is a defining attribute of an in-group.

A serious problem arises however for an in-group when it is infiltrated by members of an out-group who manage to successfully mask themselves as in-group members by such methods as changing their names to ones common in the in-group or by appearing to adopt its religion and other cultural forms. If they also have the financial resources to take control of the very institutions that shape the invaded in-group's culture, they can hide behind their mask and subvert that culture to the extent that it serves their interests and not those of the host in-group. Deceit is easy and efficient as they become 'trusted' members of the in-group.

This invasion is not necessarily an assault that is fully articulated, known and recognized by all of the invading out-group members. But on some level of awareness they all realize that they are benefiting from their leaders behavior and that co-operation is demanded by the imperatives of their own in-group's evolutionary strategy. It is quintessential group behavior.

Therein lies the answer to your question of who committed the crime of 'holocaust' lying and how they did it. The jewish diasporic in-group having invaded all of the in-groups of Western Civilization and hiding behind masks of fraudulent cultural assimilation rendering them 'trust-worthy', have deceived Westerners and subverted their political, financial and cultural institutions. This has been effected by the jewish in-group elite with the explicit or implicit co-operation of their fellow in-group members. The 'holocaust' lie stands out as the most powerful and damaging tactic employed by them in their in-group invasion and subversion of the Western in-groups.

If the jews can get away with this scam, then I say...so be it. That's evolution.

But if those of us who see the deceit behind the jewish mask can bring our fellow in-group members to see it for the threat that it is and rid our lands of the invaders, then I say...so be it. That's evolution too.

Having indentified a suspect with motive and means, all that remains is for you to accept the fact that the 'holocaust' lie is a crime. Then the culprits will be obvious to you.

Given the jewish control of the engines of propaganda in the West...