While you say that the moslems are your friends, the pertinent questions to ask are: Are you (and WNs) the moslems' friend? You may see them as being on your side but do they see you as being on their side? When you and your moslem friends finish solving the jewish problem, are the moslems going to say, "Good job, buddy, we're going home now."? If we managed this very day to remove every jew from a position of power in the white nations, then what will we do about the moslems/non-whites? They vastly outnumber the jews in our midst. If we wait a few more years in alliance with the moslems before solving the jewish problem, there will be even more moslems/non-whites to contend with.

Two problems, attention payed to both, at the same time. Has to be.

Mudslims don't control our government or own our media. Mudslims haven't taken over our universities or poisoned the minds of our children. We don't live in an Islamic society, we live in a Judaized society.

Two problems, different by order of magnitude.

We can deport every mudslim tomorrow, and our problems would still be with us.

While I agree with much of what the Iranian president has said about the jews, that does not change the fact Iran is controlled by a bunch of religious fanatics. Does anyone remember how those fuckers desecrated the remains of US airmen killed in the 1980 hostage rescue attempt? Iran is not our friend. It wouldn't hurt my feelings if the entire Middle East region got vaporized tomorrow. Kill all the bastards and let God, Muhammad, Jesus, Budda, et al sort them out.

These Iranian muslims are the same ones that think we should ban Christmas and pork products. Is anyone familiar with the saying about if you make friends with a snake it will eventually bite you and you can't complain about it? Muslims hate the West and will turn on us when it is convienent for them.

HG: Are they going to leave or are they going to want to do what they perceive to be in their best interests?

Brutus: They must be given incentives to leave. Many Muslims have immigrated, because they have been dispossessed by the jew. They should be given back their homelands. We should help facilitate that.

The Palestinians are the only moslems who have been disposessed to any significant extent by the jews and they represent a very small percentage of moslems living in white nations. The moslems in France and Belgium are predominantly Moroccan and Algerian. In the UK they are mainly Pakistani and Indian. In Germany, most moslems are Turks. In the US, christian Palestinians outnumber moslem Palestinians and both in small numbers.

Restoring Palestine to the Palestinians is not going to resolve the problem of moslems in white nations. It would defuse their anger somewhat but not their immigration or reproductive rates.

Brutus: Those Muslims who have taken advantage of immigration policies that have been placed there by the jew, will be made to leave. With the jew gone, we will surely be able to work out an amicable arrangement with them. This is an important reality that you seem to have difficulty wrapping your mind around.

Having rather indiscretely informed your moslem the-enemy-of-my-enemy-is-my-friend allies that after they help you rid us of the jews that they will be sent packing (not that they didn't already know that), how inclined do you think that they will be to see you as their ally? As I said above, most of them are not here because the jews are in possession of their homelands. They are here because their homelands are poor and over-populated and they see that whites are not reproducing at replacement rates which presents them with the opportunity to fill the niches thus left vacant.

Amicable? See riots in France last year for reference.

HG:Those who keep harping solely on the jew seem to want to overlook these things. i love the line "without the jew everything will fall into place" God damn that is naive and simple minded thinking, that your so-called friends would love to use against some of you, excuse me for saying.

Brutus: Yes it is simply said, but far from naively said. Unless you have a full understanding of the jew’s grip of control on the many different facets of our existence, you will be unable to rationalize the solution...
... If we fix the jew and we fix millions of existing problems and we prevent a million other problems from ever occurring

While HG knows that the jews are a problem, I believe that they are a more serious problem than she does. But that does not make her a kike-alike. She is amenable to rational discussion about the degree of that problem while seeing that the white nations' problems have causes that can not be attributed solely to the jews.

I agree with Brutus that jews are the most serious problem facing the white nations but that does not blind me to the real and immediate threat of increasing moslem/non-white population increase in the white nations. While the jews are to a large extent responsible for that latter threat, stripping them of power at this point will not serve to remove that threat. It is already here and real.

Brutus: Here’s a useful analogy. When the water pipe leaks in the upstairs bathroom, we don’t need a mop, we need to fix the leak. That will stop the need for future mopping, it’ll also stop the wooden floors from warping, it’ll also stop the wallboard from turning to mush, it’ll also prevent electrical shorts in the wiring in the walls, it'll also stop your water bill from going through the ceiling.....and so on and so on.

Your analogy here is appropriate IF you can fix the leak quickly. If it is going to take you more than a few minutes to fix the leak, then you have to shut off the water at its source or at least put a bucket under the leak and throw the water out where it will not cause further harm to your home.

Assuming that the jews are the leak and the moslems/non-whites are the water: If we could strip the jews of their power in say one or two weeks, then fine, concentrate on that and ignore the 'leak'. But that's not the case. It could take years to fix the 'leak' and while we ignore the 'water', our home will be destroyed by the flood.

We must stop the influx of moslems/non-whites immediately both at the source and with the 'bucket' before our home is ruined while we simultaneously try to fix the jewish 'leak'.

This seem so patently obvious to me that I wonder why there is any disagreement amongst WNs at all.

The jews are getting precisely what they want from too many WNs. They want them to focus on the jewish problem and pay less attention to the moslem/non-white problem as that serves their interest. They are betting that before WNs can solve the jewish problem, the moslem/non-white influx will deracinate the white nations to the extent that whites, and therefore WNs, will be impotent to ever finish stripping them of power.

They invision the white nations becoming minority white with themselves and their shabbos goy, white, race-traitors in charge of mixed-race, de-nationalized plantations where they and their collaborators will live off of the labor of their miscegenated goyim.

Two problems...jews and moslems/non-whites...focus solely on neither...attend to both.

Mudslims don't control our government or own our media. Mudslims haven't taken over our universities or poisoned the minds of our children. We don't live in an Islamic society, we live in a Judaized society.

Two problems, different by order of magnitude.

We can deport every mudslim tomorrow, and our problems would still be with us.

I couldn't have said it better.

Burrhuss and the kike bitch keep saying "we oughta confront this and that problem" as if there is a freakin "we". There ain't no freakin "we" that amounts to anything even remotely as powerful, heroic, numerous, or as dedicated to fighting the ZOGs and jews, as Islamic freedom fighters.

"We" can't put 1,000 angry White men in the streets if our lives depended on it, much less 1,000 dedicated fighters. Islam has a 100 times more volunteer suicide bombers than we have volunteer newspaper distributors. Burrhus lacks the GD initiative and guts to even contribute a few bucks or pass out a few newspapers, even anonymously, but yet he says "We", "We", "We" everytime he runs his GD yellow, anonymous, divisive mouth on here.

What freakin "We" could possibly include him ???

RE: Burrhus

While HG knows that the jews are a problem, I believe that they are a more serious problem than she does. But that does not make her a kike-alike. She is amenable to rational discussion about the degree of that problem while seeing that the white nations' problems have causes that can not be attributed solely to the jews.

I haven’t called HG a kike-alike or any other name. I think that she knows that I don’t agree with her opinion on the Muslim question but I also think that she’s aware that I respect her right to her opinion.

It’s been my experience in this movement that one of the most difficult hurdles for the WN to negotiate is that of the Muslim question. Of course, the other more difficult hurdle to scale is the Christian question. I will speak here only about Islam.

Most of us are fully aware of the crime caused by Muslims living among Whites. Here is where we must be bluntly honest with ourselves and ask this question of ourselves: Where has our awareness of this Muslim crime come? It certainly hasn’t come from the hard right of the WM movement, as most of the more outspoken WNs are looking for a limited alliance with Islam. Yes, I know that there are some high-profile WNs who hate Muslims, but they are in a diminishing minority.

Getting back to what we know about Muslims.......We can lie to ourselves and say that it hasn’t come from the jew media or we can be truthful and admit that most of what we know about the Muslim problem has come from the jew press. If we continue this frank exploration into our own acquired knowledge on this topic.......Are we able to honestly play devil’s advocate with ourselves on this question? Many here in the WM movement have come over from the conservative ideological camps where Islam is routinely portrayed as the ultimate evil. And as a consequence, this position is deeply engrained and thus very hard to look at objectively.

Denial and pride are strong tendencies in our nature and it’s sometimes very difficult to cede a position that we’ve fought so valiantly to uphold. I find this the case much of the time with our lot. And I think that this goes part and parcel with the very core of the psychological composition of most WNs, as we are very different from most of the herd. We march to a different drummer and we are innately skeptical and cynical and by these very positive traits we sometimes can be held back from seeing the bigger picture.

It’s easy for me to play devil’s advocate and try to imagine the Muslim as our biggest threat. And I would have to base my argument solely on the information that I’ve gained from the jewish media.

However, our (my wife and myself) personal experience will not allow that to represent an honest position. I say this because we have immediate family living in various countries in Europe and we routinely get unbiased information from them as to what’s really going on over there. And this information highlights to us the spin and distortion placed on news events in Europe by the jew press. It is evident to us that the negative reports of Muslim crime committed in Europe and other Western nations are, distortion of fact, sensationalized well beyond merit and entirely self-serving for the jew.

We are hardcore White Nationalists, but you don’t know who we are, therefore I expect you to be skeptical of what I say, and that’s good. All I can say is that you consider what I’ve said and add that to what other information you are learning about Islam and to keep an open mind on this topic.

Subrosa: We can deport every mudslim tomorrow, and our problems would still be with us.

Rounder: I couldn't have said it better.

We could strip the jews of all their power tomorrow and the moslem/non-white problem would still be with us. And if it takes another 3 or 4 or more years to strip the jews of their power, the moslem/non-white problem will be much worse then than it is now.

rounder: Burrhuss and the kike bitch keep saying "we oughta confront this and that problem" as if there is a freakin "we". There ain't no freakin "we" that amounts to anything even remotely as powerful, heroic, numerous, or as dedicated to fighting the ZOGs and jews, as Islamic freedom fighters.

Islamic freedom fighters IN THE MIDDLE EAST, yes. Attacking Israel, yes. I support them. Moslems in France who have injured 2,500 French policemen in the past year, no. Moslems in the UK who gang rape white women, no. Moslems in the white nations immigrating and reproducing at rates that will make whites minorities in this century, no.

See the difference?

As I consider Hitler Goddess to be a friend, your continuous insults directed at her are offensive to me. Should you ever find yourself in Chicago, let me know and we can 'discuss' the matter.

"We" can't put 1,000 angry White men in the streets if our lives depended on it, much less 1,000 dedicated fighters. Islam has a 100 times more volunteer suicide bombers than we have volunteer newspaper distributors. Burrhus lacks the GD initiative and guts to even contribute a few bucks or pass out a few newspapers, even anonymously, but yet he says "We", "We", "We" everytime he runs his GD yellow, anonymous, divisive mouth on here.

What freakin "We" could possibly include him ???

The "we" that includes the intelligent, honorable white men who have the sense to behave in a manner best suited to ensuring the survival of the white race. Your probably right, you and I aren't in the same "we".

Now I am curious as to, What "Germany" said to this proposal.

It is evident to us that the negative reports of Muslim crime committed in Europe and other Western nations are, distortion of fact, sensationalized well beyond merit and entirely self-serving for the jew.

Those muslim riots in France, the white/lebanese conflict in Australia, and the murder of that Danish film director are all jew-spin?

We could strip the jews of all their power tomorrow and the moslem/non-white problem would still be with us. And if it takes another 3 or 4 or more years to strip the jews of their power, the moslem/non-white problem will be much worse then than it is now.

Negative. If the jews were stripped of the power and a real government installed, the mudslim problem could be taken care of in 60 days. As for your second sentence, I don't understand it. It makes no sense as to what we've been talking about. Of course the longer it takes to rip the kikes from the power, the worse it will be. This goes not only for mudslims, but mexishits and assorted turd worlders.

Those muslim riots in France, the white/lebanese conflict in Australia, and the murder of that Danish film director are all jew-spin?

There is only one reason for those problems. KIKES. France and Denmark have more kikes per capita than any other country in the world.

Negative. If the jews were stripped of the power and a real government installed, the mudslim problem could be taken care of in 60 days

How would it be taken care of? If these people do not agree to go on their merry way(which they most likely won't)what do you do then that is not going to lead to a lot of bloodshed and other things that will very potentially cause a reaction from other muslims around the world. Honestly look at the way they react to a cartoon or a speech from the pope, how are they going to react to something like forced(that will have to be imposed with violence) deportations?

RE: Jim Crowe

Those muslim riots in France, the white/lebanese conflict in Australia, and the murder of that Danish film director are all jew-spin?

Yes they were.

Go to Google: Type in "riots in France". Then click on “imagines”

You will see only about 1,800 images. Only 1,800 photos for riots that tore apart Paris for weeks and weeks? Doesn’t that seem odd? Sure it does! There should be 100’s of thousands of photos on this major news event, based on the typically seen amount of all other types of news events and their pictures featured on Google. Carefully examine the photos that you see there. How many Middle Eastern Muslims do we see in those photos? A scant few? By the reports that we’ve been given by the jew’s media, we should be seeing 1000s upon 1000s of pictures of turban-wearing Islamo-Nazis! But we don’t see that! We see a lot of pictures and a few questionable Middle-Eastern men, but that’s it. We can’t be naive and say that there weren’t literally countless photos of the rioters that were taken. Just think back about the Toledo riots. Plenty of photos of the rioters there.

Now, take a gander at this picture taken at the Paris riots. One of the only pictures of rioting niggers to be found. Here we see a nigger ready to throw something at reporters. I see plenty of guys with cameras here, there should be a million pictures of this crazy nigger all over the net! Where are the photos to be found?

Google is owned and operated by jews!

This is a purposeful culling of pictures from Google that tell the truth about those riots in Paris. And the truth is that those rioting in Paris were black african niggers from North Africa who called themselves Muslims. The reality of that situation there is this: A nigger with a prayer rug doesn’t make for a real Muslim, no more then Jesse Jackson is a real Christian. Those riots in Paris were no more of a “Muslim riot” then were the riots that destroyed dozens of American cities in the 1960s. It was niggers. All niggers. But the jew wants you to believe that it was all Muslims and to make the mistake that they were Middle Eastern Muslims.

I am not getting something here. Some of you say that it is the jew that is responsible for allowing these people into our lands and then you also know say it is the jew that is trying to make them look bad. This makes little sense to me. If the jew continues to demonize these immigrants, this could very well lead to a situation where whites feel a need to come together and rise up against immigrants/foreigners in general, not just muslims. Why would the jew want this?

I am not getting something here. Some of you say that it is the jew that is responsible for allowing these people into our lands and then you also know say it is the jew that is trying to make them look bad. This makes little sense to me. If the jew continues to demonize these immigrants, this could very well lead to a situation where whites feel a need to come together and rise up against immigrants/foreigners in general, not just muslims. Why would the jew want this?

Good way to throw whitey in jail, if he goes after immigrants.

The jews set the laws to protect the immigrant. But makes it possible for whitey to go kick some muslims butts in the middle east.

I don't know, just a thought.