This issue needs to be reduced to it's core essentials even further?

The Jew is our enemy because he is born with a congential, irresistable impulse to subjugate all aspects of the host society to the interests of the jewish people, and will effect this through whatever means and no matter what the cost.
That the Jew, particularly the secular Zionist Jew is our enemy is beyond debate.

The Muslims fall into two broad categories:

A) The Nationalist Muslims who are content to cultivate their culture and religious practices within their own homelands, and are willing to coexist with the Occidental in a spirit of mutual respect.

B) The Jihadi Muslims who wish to see the expansion of Islamic influence and the eventual establishment of the universal, world wide Muslim Ummah ( Community of faith ) and in the case of the Shia, the restoration of the Caliphate.

The latter can never be anything but our unconditional and mortal enemy.
Study the history of islamic militarism and the Muslim faith itself,and you will recognise the validity of my words.

Muslims living in the 'Occident' - North America, Australia/ New Zealand, and Europe - are migrant squatters like any other "non-white" living in a " White" society. They are invaders who seek to dispossess us of our lands, our heritage, and our very lives if necessary. They are our enemy -not potential allies.

A white man deciding which is the worse of two evils, - Jews or radical Muslims, - is like a Dog deciding which is more injurious to it's health, - an infestation of fleas, or a bad case of heart worm.

The heart worm is most assuredly the more immediate threat and will certainly kill this Dog more expediently than the fleas.

But a severe infestation of fleas will result in pernicious anemia and a slow, lingering death just the same.

Sorry. I choose neither Jew nor radical muslim as my friend or ally. Their respective agendas are both solidly on the opposite side of the line of what 'is' and 'isn't' in the interests of Occidental Nationalist aspirations.

_JJF.

Oh how cavalier of you to bash Islamic "militant" suicide bombers fighting against Israel and the ZOGs every day, from the safety of your computer stool and while you do nothing and contribute nothing but anonymous cyber space talk, for the "interests of Occidental Nationalist aspirations."

What a freakin laugh.

Oh how cavalier of you to bash Islamic "militant" suicide bombers fighting against Israel and the ZOGs every day, from the safety of your computer stool and while you do nothing and contribute nothing but anonymous cyber space talk, for the "interests of Occidental Nationalist aspirations."

What a freakin laugh.

Hey man! This guy is a world traveler and speaks 4 languages fluently! He knows of what he speaks! He would rather have everyone as an enemy than to stoop so low as to forge an alliance with lowly towelheads!
Nigga Paleeze!

Notice how she kike-alike insenuates that I approve of muslims raping white women, and muslims blowing up White children. Sly jew bitch, ain't she ??

I did not actually say that you did approve of these things, but you have made certain statements in the past that might lead one to believe that you could. Others know this is true. Others also probably notice that you don't seem to have too much of a problem with immigrants living among us, as long as they are arab/muslims, since they are "fighting the jew" There is a difference between understanding what might lead them to take certain actions and approving of those actions. You cross that line, at times.

If not giving a pass to everyone who you believe is "fighting the jew" makes me a kike-a-like or a jew in your eyes, I really don't care.

Oh how cavalier of you to bash Islamic "militant" suicide bombers fighting against Israel

Go ahead and explain to me how an Islamic suicide bomber strapping a bomb to their waist and blowing up a few Israelis is a good thing for us. How does this help our situation?

Now watch her (Hitler Goddess) come back with one of her "poor lil misunderstood me", soccermom impersonations to gain sympathy from the impressionable, not-yet-jew-wise.

that's what she's just done. she's as predictable as TNB.

This kike (Hitler Goddess) should have been permanently banned years ago, or at least confined to the op zoo.

i concur 200% now.

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Oh how cavalier of you to bash Islamic "militant" suicide bombers fighting against Israel and the ZOGs every day, from the safety of your computer stool and while you do nothing and contribute nothing but anonymous cyber space talk, for the "interests of Occidental Nationalist aspirations."

What a freakin laugh.

Did I mention anything about suicide bombers in any of my posts to this thread?
I have no objection to Palestinians and Hezbollah " martyrs " blowing themselves up for a chance to live in paradise with a bevy of virgins -by the way, what do the women get in this heavanly bargain? -and taking out a few of the enemy.
Problem is, these heroes of Islam are just as likely to blow up a bus load of American tourists as a "Zog" as you so cryptically refer to the Zionist.

Can you not get it? Yes, the Palestinian has been wronged. His land has been stolen by the Zionist colonials and he has been relegated to the status of refugee and squatter in his own homeland. I am on their side as far as that goes. We are not at odds with this proposition.

The problem is, that the Islamic extremists are not at war only with Israel. They want to establish a world wide Islamic State wherein the subject peoples will have 3 choices proffered. 1) Submit to Allah and convert to Islam.
2) Become a second class Dhimmi, or vassal, of the Muslim overlord.
3) Die!

Palestinians are not merely freedom fighters struggling against an occupying power for the liberation of their homeland; they are also for the most part Islamic extremist sympathisers with a blind hatred for the West. Their anger in most justifiable, but am I to allow my loved ones to be consumed in the fires of their hatred because they have a legitimate gripe against my govournment?Sorry I'll pass.

No Herr Rounder, I would not Martyr myself to any mythical supernatural being, nor would I encourage anyone to sacrifice their lives for what ammounts to nothing more than inconsequential acts of revenge.
These people who are so heroically blowing themselves up for their cause are mostly disturbed, mentally unsound individuals and closet homosexuals who lives are already a misery in an Islamic society. The recruiters purposefully seek out these vulnerable members of their communities. It s not the intellectuals blowing themlselves to bits. You really romanticise these dupes.

The Muslim Jihadis are not my friend, any more than the Zionists.
When all Muslim migrants exit the European Motherland and stop plotting violence against peaceful "white" citizens, I'll be open to negotiation on a possible alliance against the overlords of Zion.
Until then? We Nationalists should consider our race surrounded by hostiles and friendless - and act accordingly.

These are complicated issues and not easily reduced to convenient platitudes such as: "The enemy of my enemy is my friend. "

_JJF.

RE: JohnJoyFree

The problem is, that the Islamic extremists are not at war only with Israel. They want to establish a world wide Islamic State wherein the subject peoples will have 3 choices proffered. 1) Submit to Allah and convert to Islam.
2) Become a second class Dhimmi, or vassal, of the Muslim overlord.
3) Die!

You really must stop watching FOX News. Those lying kikes will have you believing that Islam is a wickedly evil cult that wants to take over the world!

SufferinSuccatash! I taut I taw a terrowist!

If you haven't already, I invite you to vote on my old poll:

Which is the proper attitude towards Islam?

http://vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=11375

RE: JohnJoyFree

You really must stop watching FOX News. Those lying kikes will have you believing that Islam is a wickedly evil cult that wants to take over the world!

SufferinSuccatash! I taut I taw a terrowist!

Yes, that's me -Mr. Gullible. I don't watch Fox news or any other American televised propaganda outlet.
I get my news from Deutsche Welle, Aljazeera.net English, The BBC -which is occasionally honest, and other off shore news sources.

I simply feel that the "prime directive" of any Nationalist agenda, is Racial and cultural self-preservation. This objective cannot be effected whilst hordes of Muslim Asiatics, Africans and other alien ethnics overrun our homelands and outbreed us 6 to 1.

Have you ever been to London? Marseilles or Berlin?
If you had, you would have experienced first hand the arrogant, domineering intrusiveness, air of superiority and sense of entitlement of these " Muslim" friends of yours. They do not seek to co-exist peaceably or assimilate into the host culture - even if they could. They are determined to disposses and replace us in our own homeland.
These grasping aliens need to vacate the continent of Europe. Then we'll talk of coalitions.

yes, I'm a real Sheep. Baaahhhh!

_JJF.

So when Slobodan Milosevic was "removing" muzzies from Kosovo, were we supposed to support him or damn him? Jewbright was the one that was condemning the Serbs for too much Nationalism at the expense of the poor ethnically cleansed moozlims. So now you had to endure a farce where the semites stood together against the white man.

And like JohnJoyFree lamented, but I'll use a more poignant example...which would you rather endure....cancer or AIDS? Neither, correct?

Wodjanoj:So when Slobodan Milosevic was "removing" muzzies from Kosovo, were we supposed to support him or damn him? Jewbright was the one that was condemning the Serbs for too much Nationalism at the expense of the poor ethnically cleansed moozlims. So now you had to endure a farce where the semites stood together against the white man.

Of all the Peoples of Europe, it is among the Slavic Nations that National conscousness and the Warrior spirit is most evident and dynamic.
One of the front lines of the Nationalist vs. Globalist cold war, is to be found in the Balkans where the Serbs stood their ground against the Globalist directorate and the Shqipëtar and Bosnian musulman scum, who are nothing more than the descendants of Europeans too spineless and cowardly to resist assimilation by the Turkish invader.

Milosevic was a true European Nationalist hero. He was murdered by his Zionist captors, and I will mourn this martyr of my own Civilisation before paying even begrudging respect to half mad Islamic suicides.

Long live greater Serbia and long live the Occident.

_JJF.

Of all the Peoples of Europe, it is among the Slavic Nations that National conscousness and the Warrior spirit is most evident and dynamic.
One of the front lines of the Nationalist vs. Globalist cold war, is to be found in the Balkans where the Serbs stood their ground against the Globalist directorate and the Shqipëtar and Bosnian musulman scum, who are nothing more than the descendants of Europeans too spineless and cowardly to resist assimilation by the Turkish invader.

Milosevic was a true European Nationalist hero. He was murdered by his Zionist captors, and I will mourn this martyr of my own Civilisation before paying even begrudging respect to half mad Islamic suicides.

Long live greater Serbia and long live the Occident.

_JJF.

He knew what he was dealing with and acted upon those instincts. :cheers:

RE: JohnJoyFree

Yes, that's me -Mr. Gullible. I don't watch Fox news or any other American televised propaganda outlet.
I get my news from Deutsche Welle, Aljazeera.net English, The BBC -which is occasionally honest, and other off shore news sources.

I’m not calling you any names. I’m just kidding around with you. And yes, it’s always good to get our information from multiple sources for obvious reasons. And as WNs we should be aware that from some of our very own WN sources is where we will find the bulk of the unvarnished truth. I’ve suggested on another thread that it’s about time that we minimize our reacting to information from other sources and create our own newsworthy items. Is there any reason why they shouldn’t jump through our hoops? Who says that what a jew writes is more newsworthy then what Alex Linder writes? Certainly not me.

I simply feel that the "prime directive" of any Nationalist agenda, is Racial and cultural self-preservation. This objective cannot be effected whilst hordes of Muslim Asiatics, Africans and other alien ethnics overrun our homelands and outbreed us 6 to 1.

Yes, the prime directive is self-preservation. And any novice military student knows the strategy of divide and conquer. And the jew is also well aware of this strategy, therefore the jew divides his adversary into manageable components. It’s the jew’s worst nightmare to have WNs and Islamic freedom fighters come together. The jew fears a united front from us. This doesn’t mean that we are so rigid in this idea that it would compel us to go to bed with a Muslim. Only that we make reasonable alliances that mutually benefit both of our groups. Hitler thought it was a good idea in his day, and I think that it‘s just as good of an idea today.

Have you ever been to London? Marseilles or Berlin?

Yes. And my wife and I have immediate family living in Europe

If you had, you would have experienced first hand the arrogant, domineering intrusiveness, air of superiority and sense of entitlement of these " Muslim" friends of yours. They do not seek to co-exist peaceably or assimilate into the host culture - even if they could.

Yes again, we are well aware of the cultural differences between our respective races.

They are determined to disposses and replace us in our own homeland.

I don’t agree with this. We must first understand the greater reasons why the various Muslim sects are in Europe. People migrate for reasons. Usually there is some kind of negative pressure that forces people to move. With the jew eliminated from the scene, I think that we would be pleasantly surprised at the mutually agreeable accords Whites and Muslims could work out. I believe that with the jew gone, anything is possible.

yes, I'm a real Sheep. Baaahhhh!

Again, I’m not calling you any names.

I have provided evidence most middle easterns are white http://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=39094&page=3 . But even if you dont consider them white, what do you think abotu an alliance with islam

Ahmadinejad offers whites an alliance

Without doubt, cooperation of two peace-loving, powerful and cultured nations of Germany and Iran will serve the interests of Europe as well. Together we must end the present abnormalities in international relations, the type of order and relations that are based on the impositions of the victors of the World War II on the defeated nations. Nations and many governments will be on our side on this path.

We must make the shadow of World War II disappear and help the international community to promote security, freedom and sense of tranquility.

The people of Iran and Germany are two great nations that have contributed to the making of our civilization. They have rich culture and have been in the forefront of science, literature, arts and philosophy. Both of our people have a strong faith in God and follow the teachings of divine prophets. They have also had long-lasting scientific, cultural and commercial relations and share many valuable mutual interests.

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