Steve and Edberg are both right. The Doles campaign succeded because it had a specific goal, a specific target, and three men involved, Doles, Moran, and me, whom people trusted. I don't like general fundraising as much as specific -- it doesn't cost any site on the internet "thousands of dollars" for hosting. People who claim costs like that abuse trust. VNN has never been about money, and it never will be. But as Edberg rightly says, we must never be shy to demand the money we need to do the job.

VNN is evolving toward street politics. The TAA paper is just the first step. We're going to grow the WN movement out of the childish, anonymous costume-fetishism that has dominated it for so long -- without falling into the trap of pretending "luv" alone will win the day.

What this recent imbroglio has shown is the need to run the whole thing in-house. That's what we will do. No one will hijack us again. We will get our own server, host our family of VNN sites, and other good sites, as we have room and time. The experience with Bill White and White Revolution shows this is the only way to go, therefore it is the way we will go.

White Nationalism needs but lacks an organization that is run:

1) by honest men
2) in a financially transparent manner

If such an organization is created, it will draw the good men our cause needs to succeed.

Politically, the organization must focus on the jew as the Systemic obstacle to White self-protection and the Systemic cause of white dispossession and pending genocide. In my political estimation, no group that doesn't name and blame the jew is worth spit. The twin focus must be:

- Aryan advocacy leading to Aryan-controlled territory
- naming the root-cause jew: the wrecker of our nation, and the cause of our dispossession

That way only lies success. It was true 4.5 years ago, and it remains true today.

Street polytricks are essentially doomed. The last time it was tried in AmeriKwa, it was by none other than Sgt. Snitch, and if you were honest, you know where that ended up -- with most of the little fish in the ZOG jewlag and Traitor Glenn Miller and associates telling some fancifool lies in ZOG's perjury parlor in Ft. Smith and elsewhere.

VNN, and its forum, have followed the same path as $permfront -- ignore the web page in favor of the V-bulletin forum to bring anonymous whigger Net-nutzis to where they can howl. Not in the streets, but in the IP numbers, now given to the inspection of Sgt. Snitch. Did anyone in VNN even bother to run for county dogcatcher this year? Create a county political committee? No?

Ahhh, street politics. The Topeka rally this year had of 29 people on the one bus five bodyguards of Pastor Butler, another Aryan Nations member, myself, and my woman for nine Christian Identity. Two VNNers, Chain and Linder. That means eighteen WR members, from Roper, Vinyard, Quimby and the rest of the real younger set. Linder didn't even recognize Pastor Butler, the only 86 year old present, approximately 30-40 years older than the next youngest. Linder got to scream to the ARA niggers, jews, whiggers and had a fine time doing so, but such antics earn nothing except temporary exhilation that none of us got hurt fighting with niggers, mud & crud outnumbering us by at least 20-1, and having to have the Topeka and Kansas piglice protect us from them.

And VNN litterature? How does that work? Sgt. Snitch gets the names and mailing addresses of whigger nutsionalists. TGMNN gets some ZOG-bux. The litterature winds up in a trash cans or piglice stations.

Aryan advocacy leading to Aryan-controlled territory? Yes, give us another 200 Traitor Glenn Millers and itz cumming. Really?

What is possible is simply letting the inevitable happen -- have our forces scattered and disciplined while ZOG dies of biowar. Killing off nearly 300 million ZOGling whiggers, niggers, jew muds&cruds is inevitable given the state of warfare moving to bioweaponry, especially genetic-specific biowar. What is not possible is our winning through our own wacoization by ZOG. We can win by being the last ones standing. This war is won regardless of whether 30 million or 3 million or even only 300,000 survive -- as long as all of the survivors are White.

Linder provided a service, not as a leader, but as a cheerleader. What isn't liked is so many former members of the opposing side on Team Lindermiller now playing bowel Movement niggerball.

--Martin Lindstedt
http://www.martinlindstedt.org

Nobody ever said anything but that they were in some unclear way worried about Miller. I would have immediately moved to find other arrangements if it were clear he were absolutely intolerable. I didn't befriend Miller]

The detestation of Miller and the reasoning behind it is clear. Miller betrayed his comrades to ZOG.

Yes, there is 'juvenile cliqueishness' in the [bowel] Movement. It is inevitable. However, it has been predominately displayed by the faction you lead, Linder. If you were to have turned on Miller for Miller's past sins, your lemmings would follow you.

I've never had any problem with displaying Miller's past. Remember who was the first to place on the Internet Miller's original material with Miller's express permission? Why myself in Feb. 2001.

http://www.martinlindstedt.org/gm_index.html
http://www.martinlindstedt.org/copyrite.html

However, this Movement material demands a moral statement. My statement is that same as Louis Beam's and Katya Lane's and the rest of the Old Resistance: Traitor Glenn Miller is a snitch and ZOG traitor. Have nothing to do with him.

Alex Linder's moral stance has been exactly the opposite. All is to be forgiven, all is to be forgotten. Linder associates with Traitor Glenn Miller willingly.

And Linder complains about 'juvenile cliqueishness' in the Movement? Linder wants 'guts and loyalty.' Guts and loyalty is the last thing to be found with Traitor Glenn Miller -- ask those Miller ratted out about that.

Give it up, Linder. The only ones believing this are those of your lindermiller lemmings who insist that Miller must be convicted in their little lemming 'brains' beyond all doubt that Miller did anything.

--Martin Lindstedt
http://www.martinlindstedt.org

P.S. Is this enough to get me banned yet? --M.L.

 

Street polytricks are essentially doomed. The last time it was tried in AmeriKwa, it was by none other than Sgt. Snitch, and if you were honest, you know where that ended up -- with most of the little fish in the ZOG jewlag and Traitor Glenn Miller and associates telling some fancifool lies in ZOG's perjury parlor in Ft. Smith and elsewhere.

Miller had the criminals genuinely worried. Why? He was using his legal freedom to wake people up, and lots of them. Stuff you couldn't dream of doing. You come hear to bash him and lie about him. If you were capable of accomplishing something via your CI, one presumes you would. But you're not.

VNN, and its forum, have followed the same path as $permfront -- ignore the web page in favor of the V-bulletin forum to bring anonymous whigger Net-nutzis to where they can howl. Not in the streets, but in the IP numbers, now given to the inspection of Sgt. Snitch. Did anyone in VNN even bother to run for county dogcatcher this year? Create a county political committee? No?

VNN is a web page and a forum and a chatroom, and now it has a newspaper. Perhaps tomorrow it will have a political party. Who knows? Wait and see.

Ahhh, street politics. The Topeka rally this year had of 29 people on the one bus five bodyguards of Pastor Butler, another Aryan Nations member, myself, and my woman for nine Christian Identity. Two VNNers, Chain and Linder. That means eighteen WR members, from Roper, Vinyard, Quimby and the rest of the real younger set. Linder didn't even recognize Pastor Butler, the only 86 year old present, approximately 30-40 years older than the next youngest. Linder got to scream to the ARA niggers, jews, whiggers and had a fine time doing so, but such antics earn nothing except temporary exhilation that none of us got hurt fighting with niggers, mud & crud outnumbering us by at least 20-1, and having to have the Topeka and Kansas piglice protect us from them.

The rally could have been better done, but we still got our points across, and the photo of my poster and me dressed normally made the national wire. The words on the poster explicitly blamed the jews for Brown vs. Board. That alone made the rally worth it.

And VNN litterature? How does that work? Sgt. Snitch gets the names and mailing addresses of whigger nutsionalists. TGMNN gets some ZOG-bux. The litterature winds up in a trash cans or piglice stations.

Aryan advocacy leading to Aryan-controlled territory? Yes, give us another 200 Traitor Glenn Millers and itz cumming. Really?

What is possible is simply letting the inevitable happen -- have our forces scattered and disciplined while ZOG dies of biowar. Killing off nearly 300 million ZOGling whiggers, niggers, jew muds&cruds is inevitable given the state of warfare moving to bioweaponry, especially genetic-specific biowar. What is not possible is our winning through our own wacoization by ZOG. We can win by being the last ones standing. This war is won regardless of whether 30 million or 3 million or even only 300,000 survive -- as long as all of the survivors are White.

Yes, you certainly believe that, hence you spend all your time here bitching at people making progress.

Linder provided a service, not as a leader, but as a cheerleader. What isn't liked is so many former members of the opposing side on Team Lindermiller now playing bowel Movement niggerball.

--Martin Lindstedt
http://www.martinlindstedt.org

O ye of little faith. Watch and learn, Marty, watch and learn.

Alex,
If my memory serves me correctly I think Billy said White Revolution cannot endorse and or participate in any VNN activies as long as Miller is tagging along. That was around the same time you told Tom to remove the WR and Panzerfaust banners because you did'nt want anyone mistaking us as Allies. I don't understand how you can say we were'nt voicing our concerns over Miller with you because we were. Perhaps maybe we did'nt make it crsytal clear that he was absolutely intoreable but for crying out loud take a hint Alex. It really does'nt matter anyways though because you had already set in stone that you were going to work with Miller.

Chris Quimby
WRMC

Nobody ever said anything but that they were in some unclear way worried about Miller. I would have immediately moved to find other arrangements if it were clear he were absolutely intolerable. I didn't befriend Miller]

 

I have only three words for you KISS MY ASS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hey Mr. Broken Record, don't you White Devolutionists have a venue of your own? Enough is enough. Go rob a bank or something.

Miller had the criminals genuinely worried. Why? He was using his legal freedom to wake people up, and lots of them.

Miller wasnt trying to "wake people up" like I believe most here want to do, he was convicted of attempting to violently take over the legal government of the united states by armed force.

Nice story for a movie, but in real life, if you associate with a person like this, the law will judge and lock you up in the same catagory as him.

Miller wasnt trying to "wake people up" like I believe most here want to do, he was convicted of attempting to violently take over the legal government of the united states by armed force.

Nice story for a movie, but in real life, if you associate with a person like this, the law will judge and lock you up in the same catagory as him.

Gee OWG, that's the biggest compliment I've ever gotten. "Attempting to violently take over the legal government of the united states by armed force."
And you actually believe I tried, don't ya? Well then, do you think I could have pulled it off?

You're a smart man OWG. I've read enough of your posts to know you are. But between me and you, you don't really believe that crap, any more than you believe some of the other derogatory things you've said about me. I hurt your feelings awhile back in a rather mild debate. And so you decided to spite me. Evidencing that you are disingenuious, which amounts to deception. I'm beginning to believe that you and others like you do not base your stated opinions on what you actually think, but rather according to whom you're talking to or about, at the time.

Gee OWG, that's the biggest compliment I've ever gotten. "Attempting to violently take over the legal government of the united states by armed force."
And you actually believe I tried, don't ya? Well then, do you think I could have pulled it off?

You're a smart man OWG. I've read enough of your posts to know you are. But between me and you, you don't really believe that crap, any more than you believe some of the other derogatory things you've said about me. I hurt your feelings awhile back in a rather mild debate. And so you decided to spite me. Evidencing that you are disingenuious, which amounts to deception. I'm beginning to believe that you and others like you do not base your stated opinions on what you actually think, but rather according to whom you're talking to or about, at the time.

But the guy with the gavel and the muscle heads with guns who back his black robed benevolence, do believe it.

It matters not, what I believe.

.......... I'm beginning to believe that you and others like you do not base your stated opinions on what you actually think, but rather according to whom you're talking to or about, at the time.

Is that bad? LOL I think I do that quite a bit in life.

Remember this line from a Few Good Men movie: "Truth? You want the truth? You cant handle the truth!"

Sorry to digress folks!

Is that bad? LOL I think I do that quite a bit in life.

Remember this line from a Few Good Men movie: "Truth? You want the truth? You cant handle the truth!"

Sorry to digress folks!

Well, as a matter of fact, we all do. Some far more than others. But it's misleading, causes confusion, and is therefore deceptive and detracts from our objective of EXPOSING THE JEWS persuasively, on this forum.

White Will, in my judgment, is the purist, most honest, most consistent, and the most altuistic White man I've ever known personally. Though he too, slips up infrequently. Alex is way up there on my list too. Hell, I'm half way convinced Alex has the potential of becoming our greatest leader since 30 April 1945.

Anyhow, we all ought to come to grips with our personal flaws and improve ourselves. Damn, that's stressful and difficult though, ain't it?