No again that would be wrong. Columbus did not settle America, he thought it was the other side of India.

I guess the people on the Mayflower ship were the ones who discovered and settled America 1st. And they were all Northern Europeans.

Try to pay attention. The criteria for discovery is not settlement, otherwise Indians would get the credit. The criteria is realizing that something new has been found, and then going back to tell others about it. The Indians didn't do that. The Norsemen didn't do that. The Pilgrims arrived too late to do that. Only Columbus and the Spanish did that, which is why they're credited with discovering the New World.

Try to pay attention. The criteria for discovery is not settlement, otherwise Indians would get the credit. The criteria is realizing that something new has been found, and then going back to tell others about it. The Indians didn't do that. The Norsemen didn't do that. The Pilgrims arrived too late to do that. Only Columbus and the Spanish did that, which is why they're credited with discovering the New World.

'fraid not, son. You need to brush up on your Mayflower facts. After they anchored the Mayflower for a spell, they sent her back, and got others, and spread the word of the new settlement in what was to be called later on America. Thus began the wave of european migration to America.

So yes I am right, after all.

'fraid not, son. You need to brush up on your Mayflower facts. After they anchored the Mayflower for a spell, they sent her back, and got others, and spread the word of the new settlement in what was to be called later on America. Thus began the wave of european migration to America.

So yes I am right, after all.

That's great except that it occurred 130 years after Columbus discovered the New World, and 80 years after De Soto found the Mississippi River. And the name "America" first appeared on a map in 1507, more than a century before the Pilgrims arrived.

So no, you're wrong. Dead wrong.

That's great except that it occurred 130 years after Columbus discovered the New World, and 80 years after De Soto found the Mississippi River. And the name "America" first appeared on a map in 1507, more than a century before the Pilgrims arrived.

So no, you're wrong. Dead wrong.

You got me on the America name deal, but back then no one had printing presses so hardly anyone knew it was called america anyway besides a few people who had a hand drawn duplicate.

Other than that, the Mayflower was the first to settle and populate America.

Maping bits and pieces is not worth much, since its pretty hard not to run dead into the humongous continent of North America.

So yep, Im still right.

Other than that, the Mayflower was the first to settle and populate America.

So yep, Im still right.

Nope, you're still wrong. Spaniards began colonizing the Southeast in 1565 with the settlement of St. Augustine in Florida. By the time of the Mayflower, they had extended into the Southwest (New Mexico, California).

Anyway, if we were to attribute the discovery on the sole basis of first settlement on the continent prior to Columbus, then credit would have to go to Indians and Eskimos, whose arrival predated that of the Norsemen by several millennia. They also covered more territory and established permanent settlements.

Why would you give "credit" to Indians and Eskimos to the "discovery" of America based on "settlement" and not 10,000 year old White guys?

Whether your coming to America from east, west, north or south it takes a little bit of "settlement" to make it to Nevada.

http://www.rgj.com/news/specials/story6.html

You got me on the America name deal, but back then no one had printing presses so hardly anyone knew it was called america anyway besides a few people who had a hand drawn duplicate.

Other than that, the Mayflower was the first to settle and populate America.

Maping bits and pieces is not worth much, since its pretty hard not to run dead into the humongous continent of North America.

So yep, Im still right.

Wrong again goat man .Ever hear of roanoak ?This was the first english colony .Dont know why I still bother with you goatster ,its just still fun to point out when you are wrong .Especially since you are always wrong .

Let's not forget that Italy's dismal failure to subdue the Greeks cost the German Army one month to finally get the job done, which pushed back Operation Barbarossa one month, which, likely precluded the final victory of taking Moscow before the terrible Russian winter snows set in.
That surely would have changed history.

Yes and the stupidity and pointlessness of invading Greece in the first place. Typical Italian Arrogance and vainglory.

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Let's not forget that Italy's dismal failure to subdue the Greeks cost the German Army one month to finally get the job done, which pushed back Operation Barbarossa one month, which, likely precluded the final victory of taking Moscow before the terrible Russian winter snows set in.
That surely would have changed history.
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Yes, that was a disaster. The English and American decision to attack Germany (after Germany's declaration of war) is extremely admirable and easily explainable. The English and Americans are faultless for attacking Germany. A poorly trained and equipped Italian army is worthy of insult because they supported Hitler.

The Americans and English are heroes -- they helped crush the German Army as well as the Italian.

Yes, that was a disaster. The English and American decision to attack Germany (after Germany's declaration of war) is extremely admirable and easily explainable. The English and Americans are faultless for attacking Germany. A poorly trained and equipped Italian army is worthy of insult because they supported Hitler.

The Americans and English are heroes -- they helped crush the German Army as well as the Italian.

Yes!!! absolutely correct! Without the crushing of the German army we might have had endless jew wars like Korea and Vietnam. The 40 year old cold war with the jew/communist Soviet Union not to mention Greneda, Panama and of course Iraq 1 and 2. Then their are our little buddies in Israel. Thank God the German Army was crushed so we didn't have to get involved in any mideast wars or sinking of our ships or terrorism, not to mention the hatred of a billion Arabs. Then their is the illegal immigration that the German Army would surely have forced on us. Everyone knows that Hitler was a race mixer.

Now I don't want to get into details here but the civil rights act and desegregation, affirmative action, special entitlements, etc. Where blacks and their rape, murder and robbery would have encompassed us had it not been for the "Americans and English heroes" ...cuz as everyone knows the Germans were all for desegregation!

Then their is Israel....had not the German Army been defeated, the Zionist big money bankers, media and newspaper moguls might have taken control of our country and really fucked things up and screwed our kids up big time. Whew!!!!...that was close!!!

Thank God Nick you have put everything in perspective for us. You're a Godsend!!!!

http://www.stormfront.org/forum/showthread.php?t=109730

JJT shows his love of Jews again. The guy seriously seems to like Jews deep inside. After everything that they have done to our people there is no way a decent White person could think the Jews deserve anything but death. They are an ancient enemy that has kept coming back everytime we told them "no". Does the suffering of White people, hell ALL people on earth, because you feel sorry for them and don't want to hurt anybody.

For me the minute someone says that not ALL jews are bad they become part of the problem!

SF Britain is full of Jew and none white lovers, who endlessly talk about compromise and appeasement, they hope in this way the jew will show pitty on them and throw them a few scrapes from the ZOG's table!

They are at best fools and at worst traitors!

Hail Victory/Sieg Heil!