It's a good idea. A Dale Carnegie Inst. like program for activists to improve their public speaking and debate skills.

Why dont we just set fire to the paper tiger that is scaring everyone?

Rather than building up our own paper tiger to scare theirs?

One can attend a good trade school much cheaper. Trade schools that teach manual labor are mostly white if no 100% white. The ones in my area have no non-whites at all.

Don’t think manual labor jobs are all going to Mexicans. People are fast realizing that whites do a better job and Mexicans are seeking higher pay for worse jobs. In my area it is booming, 4 people at my congregation are in the business of building homes, roofing and masonry. My dad and I recently ceased operations to build house for ourselves and get more involved in real estate. The people at my congregation work 7 days a week and some are a year behind on jobs because there is such a strong demand.

Learn to operate bulldozers and backhoes, these types of jobs pay $50-100 an hour (if you own your own equipment) in my area which has a lower rate of pay than most places and are in extremely great demand.

My advice is to learn to drive a truck and haul hazardous materials. That job pays up to and over $100,000 a year. That is more than you will make with 90% of the college jobs and only costs you about $2,000 and a year to go to truck driving school. Compare that to forty to a hundred thousand for college and a time investment of at least four years and up to ten years.

In ten years you can earn enough driving a truck to live well the rest of your life and if you retire in twenty you can be in your 40’s with a huge bank account and retirement plan.

Here is another bit of advice if you desire to learn a trade, get a low-end job with an experienced professional. Schools will teach you a trade but you don’t get that on the job experience and skill to improvise in difficult situations. You won’t get $30 an hour but you will get the experience and instead of paying someone you will be getting paid to get a better education.

Another thing is try to get involved with a company that has a 20-30 year retirement. Imagine retiring in your 50’s and any work will be just extra income. A 40-50 year old leader with a healthy monthly income can do more for the movement than 5 paid leaders. The reason is because they will already be getting paid and won’t be subject to spending 90% of their time answering for their income.

Most of the people in my area that do contracting jobs are in their 60’s and up. With the exception of one (me) they are all in their late 40’s and up. My dad is 70 so that job market will be wide open in the next 5-10 years for young whites that get their experience now.

What would it take to develop WN training camps? I'm thinking if someone like Kievsky wants to set up a hobby farm, we would have more than a few young activists willing to pay a tuition for the privilege to learn organic farming, white nationalist principles, get in shape, general self-sufficiency, and activist tactics.

How much capital would one need to start this? Could tuition be kept reasonably low?

Maybe we could have different camps, at which a person learns different skill sets. Kievsky teaches organic farming at one, Sean Martin teaches house building to young skinheads at another. A computer focused camp at yet another. A business/ publishing camp at another, operating a printing press and cd and book warehouse distribution at another.

Good Idea?

We once raised $50,000-- this isn't out of reach!

The best method of doing this is overseas. Once you use the term "White Nationalist" training camp the feds will be itching to make a case on you. Small Eastern European countries are a good bet, and don't totally rule out remote non-white nations, possibly in Southeast Asia.

Why dont we just set fire to the paper tiger that is scaring everyone?

Rather than building up our own paper tiger to scare theirs?

Organs like VNN - White Media - are doing just that. :cheers:

What would it take to develop WN training camps? I'm thinking if someone like Kievsky wants to set up a hobby farm, we would have more than a few young activists willing to pay a tuition for the privilege to learn organic farming, white nationalist principles, get in shape, general self-sufficiency, and activist tactics.

How much capital would one need to start this? Could tuition be kept reasonably low?

Maybe we could have different camps, at which a person learns different skill sets. Kievsky teaches organic farming at one, Sean Martin teaches house building to young skinheads at another. A computer focused camp at yet another. A business/ publishing camp at another, operating a printing press and cd and book warehouse distribution at another.

You have to be kidding?
Rather than have religious nuts teach "house building" what you should be suggesting is a rigorous training camp where martial skills can be taught.
We need warriors not religious house builders!

http://aryan-myth-and-metahistory.blogspot.co.uk/

 

You are always calling for someone else to physically fight while carrying the title “Cyber warrior”. Yes people can fight and win but what can they do in an attempt to rebuild society if they don’t have the necessary skills to do basic labor?

What do you have to teach? Can you build a house? Are you a competent gunsmith? I know they don’t have guns where you are located. How about this, your only skill is to pound the keys safely behind a computer monitor far away from anyone here.

You are too much of a coward to even give your real name so anything you say is completely disregarded as anonymous thoughts of a cowardly mind.

Unlike you I use my real name and location and from someone with actual experience in martial arts I would say that to your face if you didn’t knock me out with your gigantic defeatist hook nose first.

You have to be kidding?
Rather than have religious nuts teach "house building" what you should be suggesting is a rigorous training camp where martial skills can be taught.
We need warriors not religious house builders!

You are always calling for someone else to physically fight while carrying the title “Cyber warrior”. Yes people can fight and win but what can they do in an attempt to rebuild society if they don’t have the necessary skills to do basic labor?

No not at all.I am prepared to fight myself and will do so if and when RaHoWa breaks out.You are the one who is in doubt as you supposedly would "turn the other cheek".Practical skills are already taught in the outside world so we have no need of a "white nationalist" camp to duplicate what is already being done,often better.

What do you have to teach? Can you build a house? Are you a competent gunsmith? I know they don’t have guns where you are located. How about this, your only skill is to pound the keys safely behind a computer monitor far away from anyone here.

You are obviously ignorant of the impact of the Internet in the 21st century as the most powerful propaganda tool.Leafleting is a waste of time.We are in the 21st century now:deal with it!

You are too much of a coward to even give your real name so anything you say is completely disregarded as anonymous thoughts of a cowardly mind.

Careful:you are breaching the flaming rule[again].Either you are lying about your name or "Dr Sean Martin" is quite an insignificant fellow from my searches on Google.Naming yourself after a brand of footwear wasn`t very bright was it?

Unlike you I use my real name and location and from someone with actual experience in martial arts I would say that to your face if you didn’t knock me out with your gigantic defeatist hook nose first.

No you don`t use your real name and location.You are not the manufacturer of skinhead boots.As far as martial arts are concerned I have had training in this field also.It is no big deal.Get off your ego chair!

You are obviously ignorant of the impact of the Internet in the 21st century as the most powerful propaganda tool.Leafleting is a waste of time.We are in the 21st century now:deal with it!

Why did you google me? Do you want to see what a real activist is like. Or do you want information to give to Morris Dees?

Ok then tell me one person you have won to racism through the Internet? Sure you can easily sit behind a computer cowering or you could be like Sid and get out and do something. Sid is winning people while you are sitting terrified of a plain ole country minister that builds houses. What a pathetic coward, to win people to the cause they must first respect you and no one respects you.

Careful:you are breaching the flaming rule[again].Either you are lying about your name or "Dr Sean Martin" is quite an insignificant fellow from my searches on Google.Naming yourself after a brand of footwear wasn`t very bright was it?

There is a brand of shoe named Sean Martin? Give me the link to Sean Martins I want to see them. Oh it is easy to mock someone’s name when they are brave enough to use it. You won’t use your real name so that let’s us know you are no martial artists, when in reality you are a simple little coward. You know it, I know it and from the safety of the computer and an anonymous name those words don’t harm you do they?

Now that we are on a similar subject I have never heard you talk of having a girlfriend or actually being a male or female? So what is it? What are you hiding from us cyber warrior?

Why did you google me? Do you want to see what a real activist is like. Or do you want information to give to Morris Dees?

I did a search on Google to find evidence to support your statement that you used your real name as a user name.Clearly you don`t or you are a complete non-entity.Who is Morris Dees?

Ok then tell me one person you have won to racism through the Internet? Sure you can easily sit behind a computer cowering or you could be like Sid and get out and do something. Sid is winning people while you are sitting terrified of a plain ole country minister that builds houses. What a pathetic coward, to win people to the cause they must first respect you and no one respects you.

A soldier in an total war situation will not be able to tell you who his bullet reaches,the same with cyber warfare
Go out and do what? Don`t tell me:leafleting!!!!!
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There is a brand of shoe named Sean Martin? Give me the link to Sean Martins I want to see them. Oh it is easy to mock someone’s name when they are brave enough to use it. You won’t use your real name so that let’s us know you are no martial artists, when in reality you are a simple little coward. You know it, I know it and from the safety of the computer and an anonymous name those words don’t harm you do they?

How do you know that I am not known as the Aryan Lord off-line?How do you know that I don`t wear a monacle and live in an English castle?
Here is a link to the name that you have plagiarised-
http://www.drmartens.com/
Btw do you have one of those fake doctorates that you can buy by mail order?Or is it a doctorate in "house building"?
As far as never having heard of Dr Marten boots is concerned methinks that you are being a trifle disingenuous.See the following link and highlight Dr Marten;-
http://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=15717&highlight=Martens

Now that we are on a similar subject I have never heard you talk of having a girlfriend or actually being a male or female? So what is it? What are you hiding from us cyber warrior?

I have already made it known that I am a man in my 40s.My personal life is none of your business.In Europe we find the emotionalism of Americans on talk shows,revealing their innermost secrets repellent.

you know what's kind of strange? sean martin has been a poster on this forum for awhile now, and only in the last few months have we all heard about his house building jobs...he posted for over a year and he never brought this up. Not that I actually care either, just kind of strange many of the things he writes about.
Also, since he was the forum laughing stock he has tried to write on more serious topics and be more mature. I'd say he is doing a decent job of this, but something about martin is just not right.
Almost overnight he went from preacher to farmer to house builder.

Maybe he has started to learn home building. Now he is an expert.
I don't know, sorry to bust in on your thread here, but sean how on earth can to devout so much time to posting on here when you have so many home building jobs to do and your immense garden to work on?

I still say you are a liar. You kind of reinvent yourself every few months it seems. Now you are not as radical as you first were when you came to VNN.
lol.

Ah, a microcosm of Europe's decline: infighting over the ego while the lesser war goes unchecked.

Taxi!

What would it take to develop WN training camps? I'm thinking if someone like Kievsky wants to set up a hobby farm, we would have more than a few young activists willing to pay a tuition for the privilege to learn organic farming, white nationalist principles, get in shape, general self-sufficiency, and activist tactics.

I think it's against the law for White people to organize.

-Yankee Jim