Imho, no one: we need to ban three more enemy moles: Definite-Article, Forrest and Coolblue.

I think this is the wrong question. All banned should be reinstated, then if there is a reason to ban someone, post it. Otherwise, there is no accountability.

I was banned by Beck (AM) for no reason whatsoever. I was reinstated a few days later after bitching to Linder, but nobody ever explained why so many contributors were banned. I am still waiting for an explanation.

I would like to know why John A. Flynn is banned. Why are any beneficial activists banned? I have never agreed with JP Slovjanski on anything, but he was a big contributor, intellectually, to VNNf. Ok, so those are my (2) votes.

John Flynn

Ought to be reinstated. John and I have had our own disagreements in the past and his awakening has come a long ways before he was banned. He finally realised that non whites only took advantage of whiteys kindness and you have to get hateful with the shit skins or they will eat you up.

I would suggest that before anyone is reinstated after being banned that they be required to write a clear statement of their position and views on White Nationalism,then to be voted upon by the forum members at large.

It's clearly a waste to bann a loyal true believer,even if his head is "temporally" screwed on wrong.We are after all recruiting constantly.

It's just as wise NOT to reinstated a complete asshole white or not; and certainly NOT a nonwhite who is disrespectful or argumentative beyond reason with his superiors.

I like not knowing who the Mods are.Maybe I'm one.Hell I'd bann everyone ,just to set the record straight.

Keep the mods invisible.It's like a beautiful women,once totally exposed all the mystery is gone.

Vote and explain why....

Here's my opinion. Everyone who is probably a patriotic White man or woman should be completely unbanned immediately -- with a warning if appropriate. Verbal personal attacks on Alex, Geoff, Chain, or anyone else (calling them a jew or whatever) should not be cause for banning. Someone should be banned ONLY if it becomes clear that someone's primary intention is to disrupt or discredit -- i.e., if his actions indicate he is anti-white or/and anti-freedom of speech.

Moreover, there should be a series of increasingly punitive consequences, rather than immediately an outright ban, in order to give that person a chance to mend his ways and us a chance to determine his motivations:

1. One warning.

2. One temporary one day ban.

3. Restriction to Nutzpah and Opposition Forums.

4. Restriction to Oppostion Forum.

5. Outright ban.

We should know who the mods are. They should each have a "Moderator" insignia. There should be a list of mods somewhere and who is the head mod. This secretive stuff is disgusting among White men. We should have ready access to the mods to request their help if needed in case a thread is being sabotaged.

A prerequisite for a moderator becoming a moderator must be his belief in a White man's inalienable right to freedom of speech. We don't want any BNP/SF type jew-phile moderators here. Anyone who is a member of the BNP should be rather suspect and Alex should be hesitant before making him a mod. I view the BNP as antithetical to the interests of the White race. And I bet most of us think the same. BNP'ers can post here but should have no power.

No moderation is better than bad moderation.

It might be a good idea to have a thread discussion for a limited period of time -- say, a day or two -- before outright banning anyone. The mod who wants to ban should state his reasons for wanting to ban. Then we can comment. It can be the mod's decision -- or we could vote on the question. Personally, I like the idea of a vote.

The goal would be three-fold:

1. Have at least one forum on the internet reflective of a White man's innate desire and INALIENABLE RIGHT to freedom of speech.

2. Curtail top-down control of White men by limiting the power of the mods and bringing their decisions out into the light of day.

3. Punish and restrict only those who sabotage the forum.

The White race doesn't need a lot of jew-like top-down control. Our ability for self-control and self-discipline goes a long way to curtail abuses of freedom. Very often the members themselves can control disruptiveness simply by stating their objection to the disrupter.

Trailblazer correctly pointed out that jew/ZOG infiltration of VNN is inevitable. It only becomes a matter of who are the infiltrators, not whether they are here. THESE are the people (the probable infiltrators) who should be banned -- when we have adequate evidence, based on their posting patterns, that they are such. If any of these infiltrators have wormed their way into mod positions, boot them out. Patriotic White men -- no matter how abrasive -- should not be banned ever -- unless their primary intention is to disrupt. Trailblazer probably should also be reinstated. When I get the chance, I'm going to examine his posts myself because I think a bad decision may have been made there. I'll bring this matter up on another thread. Or to save time -- simply give him the benefit of the doubt now and reinstate him -- with a warning not to be disruptive.

I think it would be helpful to have a separate forum available for those who believe someone is a jew or troll or unacceptable for whatever reason. They can fight it out there -- and take their fight there -- and the rest of us can monitor and comment.

Let VNN Forum be the forum which allows White men and women to speak their minds openly, without fear of jew-sanctions. And we will grow exponentially for that reason alone. Watch and see.

FREEDOM OF SPEECH

FREEDOM FROM TYRANNY

I'd like to see Hate Dept. back. The only reason he got the boot was for fucking with Miller.

If it’s not broken, don’t fix it.

The 5 recommendations are ideals, devere.

I’ve being here for well over two years, and never had any problems with the mods because I try to be responsible as I can. We are mods in many ways, and in the long run, (no one is perfect) is it good for VNNf?

I believe the elected mods should be like a cloaked cell working for the betterment of the body, rather than identified with which would make it a target.

I would suggest that before anyone is reinstated after being banned that they be required to write a clear statement of their position and views on White Nationalism,then to be voted upon by the forum members at large.

It's clearly a waste to bann a loyal true believer,even if his head is "temporally" screwed on wrong.We are after all recruiting constantly.

It's just as wise NOT to reinstated a complete asshole white or not]

Good ideal.

nothing says lovin' like a jew in the oven

Kentckyanna True News

"What do you expect? All we got on this team are a bunch a Jews, spics, niggers, pansies -- and a booger-eatin' moron!"

Tanner Boyle - short stop for the Bad News Bears.

 

Agis,

I would ask the mods to explain why they banned every case. If the reason is something like, "was being a jerk" or "disruptive behavior", then I say unban them. If the reason was "posted illegal material", then the ban remains.

This system is broken and needs to be fixed. My brother is starting to slowly awaken. I'll send him links to Rense.com or similar sites, but I am hesitant to mention vnnf. Honestly, I can't see inviting any newbie here. If some secret kike mod bans them with one final message being "you are not welcome" then all our efforts are for nothing. This is what AM was doing. Even Rounder, who I respect, wants to ban every member that we attract with TAAs or WPLs. This is insane. If I was really concerned with recruiting, I'd have nothing to do with VNN.

Based on the drop in number of posters, I would say something is broken. Exactly what is perhaps uncertain. However, a forum is its posters (both quality and numbers and it takes quantity to get quality) -- plus the moderation of those posters. Less of the latter means more of the former.

I also think openness, despite the downside of this for the modertors, diminishes arbitrary and poor moderation. This is why Aryans invented an open court system -- and why the jews have closed it. Let's put it all out on the table.

Time for some repair work. Change isn't always good, but it is broken, Il Duce -- so let's fix it.

Give us a voice in who is to be banned -- before they're banned, instead of our having to try to clean up the mistakes of the secret banning after the fact.

More openness. Less top down administration. It's the Aryan way.

Devere:

I will not take sides, or intervene since I was not asked to do so.

As far as Sutter,and Flynn goes; I can only say they are good folks. It’s up for the boss to decide, for whatever reason they were banned, that’s between the two. I can only express my opinion.

Having said that, we need to look back couple of years of how it was then and now. Would you say VNNf has improved quality wise, progress has been made, or not?

As Jimmy Carter once said there is a Malaise etc.

Take note last night I went to O.D. and there was 101 guest's and I was the only member showing. there is rarely any more, more than 5 member on at a time, they had a clean up a while back.

Gold is money, had an ethic cleansing of W.N.'s and it's number's have dropped like a rock.

Now beyond that stuff, our people are Stressed out as a race, and yet the TV flashe's nightly across every white bubble left in the land. Our retired folk watch the most TV, and use the net in the least.

The truth is so powerful that these little site's have the jew infesting them daily.

The tribe went nutz about the G.I.M. W.N.'s late last year and sent in a troll army to howl, and so then with their threat's and constant howling the GIM Mod's cleaned their forum out, and the number's show it.

Any questions?

P.S. any brother on here who is Not A Troll, and you have a complaint about my gram mer, then PM me if it concern's you, and you just want to help because your a Scrabble champion, and after all our writing should just be the best etc., but if you just make a post only about my gram mer, then that says allot more about you.

Devere:

I will not take sides, or intervene since I was not asked to do so.

As far as Sutter,and Flynn goes]My own feeling is that there has not been a reduction in quality, perhaps even an improvement in some respects. But I may be too close to that question to answer it accurately. Some have said there is a drop in quality. And certainly we have lost some of our best posters, which would suggest a loss in quality -- although some of the new posters are very good. My main concern is twofold:

1) The drop in numbers -- of both membership and readership -- these equate to a drop in influence and awakening of Whites by the forum.

2) A diminishment in freedom of speech.

The latter affects the former.

 

Vote and explain why....

Sutter should be reinstated immediately. In fact, he never should have been banned at all, IMO. Flynn should also be allowed back. Just don't make him a mod cuz he was damn near as bad as AM/Beck was.

It might be a good idea to have a thread discussion for a limited period of time -- say, a day or two -- before outright banning anyone. The mod who wants to ban should state his reasons for wanting to ban. Then we can comment. It can be the mod's decision -- or we could vote on the question. Personally, I like the idea of a vote.

The goal would be three-fold:

1. Have at least one forum on the internet reflective of a White man's innate desire and INALIENABLE RIGHT to freedom of speech.

2. Curtail top-down control of White men by limiting the power of the mods and bringing their decisions out into the light of day.

3. Punish and restrict only those who sabotage the forum.

The White race doesn't need a lot of jew-like top-down control. Our ability for self-control and self-discipline goes a long way to curtail abuses of freedom. Very often the members themselves can control disruptiveness simply by stating their objection to the disrupter.

Esentially, you are calling for VNN forum members to police the board themselves. Interesting concept, VNN's never tried that one. I can see some problems with it, however. Foremost being, getting White guys to agree on anything is like herding cats. That is, most of us, while agreeing that the kikes want us rubbed out, we still act independently and pursue our own goals. In the not to distant past this was a virtue but in this crazy jew reality it's suicide.

The problem with the moderation system is not the moderation system....it's the mods themselves. I'll use Flynn as an example. John is a bright guy, he's an attorney, he's WN's, he's dedicated. You would think that John would be the perfect mod. The reality was he was one of the worst. He let the whole "position" go to his head and he became unbearable. Instead of remembering that VNN is a place where like-minded White Nationalists can meet and plan and discuss the things that are important to us, Flynn turned it into a brutal suppression of anything he didn't agree with.

Then there are the other side of the coin mods.(I won't mention any names) They're afraid to rock the boat. They don't like to make decisions because they think it might come back to bite them in the ass so they do nothing and hope for the best. Or wait until Alex tells them what to do. In the meantime Rome is burning and they're playing the fiddle.

But I'm for any kind of change at this point. As you and others have said the present system is broken and needs to be fixed. Maybe the members themselves can fix it under a set of guidelines that are fair to all.