The Jews are unified group; so much so that they don’t abide by a sign contract, or law , but only a hand shake that is sufficient enough for trust. They operate outside the realm, guided by the Talmud law that binds them into cohesive group.

The 25 points NSDAP put in place is advance, revising the old Roman law, where the “common interest before self-interest”comes first.

The Jews are unified group]

Programme of the NSDAP, 24 February 1920

1. We demand the union of all Germany in a Greater Germany on the basis of the right of national self-determination.

2. We demand equality of rights for the German people in its dealings with other nations, and the revocation of the peace treaties of Versailles and Saint-Germain.

3. We demand land and territory (colonies) to feed our people and to settle our surplus population.

4. Only members of the nation may be citizens of the State. Only those of German blood, whatever be their creed, may be members of the nation. Accordingly, no Jew may be a member of the nation.

5. Non-citizens may live in Germany only as guests and must be subject to laws for aliens.

6. The right to vote on the State's government and legislation shall be enjoyed by the citizens of the State alone. We demand therefore that all official appointments, of whatever kind, whether in the Reich, in the states or in the smaller localities, shall be held by none but citizens.

We oppose the corrupting parliamentary custom of filling posts merely in accordance with party considerations, and without reference to character or abilities.

7. We demand that the State shall make it its primary duty to provide a livelihood for its citizens. If it should prove impossible to feed the entire population, foreign nationals (non-citizens) must be deported from the Reich.

8. All non-German immigration must be prevented. We demand that all non-Germans who entered Germany after 2 August 1914 shall be required to leave the Reich forthwith.

9. All citizens shall have equal rights and duties.

10. It must be the first duty of every citizen to perform physical or mental work. The activities of the individual must not clash with the general interest, but must proceed within the framework of the community and be for the general good.

We demand therefore:

11. The abolition of incomes unearned by work.

The breaking of the slavery of interest

12. In view of the enormous sacrifices of life and property demanded of a nation by any war, personal enrichment from war must be regarded as a crime against the nation. We demand therefore the ruthless confiscation of all war profits.
13. We demand the nationalization of all businesses which have been formed into corporations (trusts).

14. We demand profit-sharing in large industrial enterprises.

15. We demand the extensive development of insurance for old age.

16. We demand the creation and maintenance of a healthy middle class, the immediate communalizing of big department stores, and their lease at a cheap rate to small traders, and that the utmost consideration shall be shown to all small traders in the placing of State and municiple orders.

17. We demand a land reform suitable to our national requirements, the passing of a law for the expropriation of land for communal purposes without compensation; the abolition of ground rent, and the prohibition of all speculation in land. *

18. We demand the ruthless prosecution of those whose activities are injurious to the common interest. Common criminals, usurers, profiteers, etc., must be punished with death, whatever their creed or race.

19. We demand that Roman Law, which serves a materialistic world order, be replaced by a German common law.

20. The State must consider a thorough reconstruction of our national system of education (with the aim of opening up to every able and hard-working German the possibility of higher education and of thus obtaining advancement). The curricula of all educational establishments must be brought into line with the requirements of practical life. The aim of the school must be to give the pupil, beginning with the first sign of intelligence, a grasp of the nation of the State (through the study of civic affairs). We demand the education of gifted children of poor parents, whatever their class or occupation, at the expense of the State.

21. The State must ensure that the nation's health standards are raised by protecting mothers and infants, by prohibiting child labor, by promoting physical strength through legislation providing for compulsory gymnastics and sports, and by the extensive support of clubs engaged in the physical training of youth.

22. We demand the abolition of the mercenary army and the foundation of a people's army.

23. We demand legal warfare on deliberate political mendacity and its dissemination in the press. To facilitate the creation of a German national press we demand:

(a) that all editors of, and contributors to newspapers appearing in the German language must be members of the nation;
(b) that no non-German newspapers may appear without the express permission of the State. They must not be printed in the German language;
(c) that non-Germans shall be prohibited by law from participating financially in or influencing German newspapers, and that the penalty for contravening such a law shall be the suppression of any such newspaper, and the immediate deportation of the non-Germans involved.
The publishing of papers which are not conducive to the national welfare must be forbidden. We demand the legal prosecution of all those tendencies in art and literature which corrupt our national life, and the suppression of cultural events which violate this demand.

24. We demand freedom for all religious denominations in the State, provided they do not threaten its existence not offend the moral feelings of the German race.

The Party, as such, stands for positive Christianity, but does not commit itself to any particular denomination. It combats the Jewish-materialistic spirit within and without us, and is convinced that our nation can achieve permanent health only from within on the basis of the principle: The common interest before self-interest.

25. To put the whole of this programme into effect, we demand the creation of a strong central state power for the Reich; the unconditional authority of the political central Parliament over the entire Reich and its organizations; and the formation of Corporations based on estate and occupation for the purpose of carrying out the general legislation passed by the Reich in the various German states.

The leaders of the Party promise to work ruthlessly -- if need be to sacrifice their very lives -- to translate this programme into action.

 

The comfort level of Whites in Zimbabwe and South Africa dropped years ago and there has been little, if any, change in White behavior.

You're right. However, as the Shadow says, Whites in America are just too damn comfortable to buck the system. I think any hope we have of a racial rebirth will occur only after Whites no longer have anything to lose.

The Shadow also makes an excellent point about being on top and being on the bottom. As Whites increasingly find themselves on the bottom, they're going to start becoming more conscious of who's on top. At least let's hope.

Perhaps Kievsky is correct when he says that Aryan "mafia's" will form or rather will need to form in order to protect and advance White interests. Of course the other possibility is that given current trends Whites are simply going to vanish as a race from this planet. The few who remain will be the Last of the Mohicans, and the Tan Everyman will come to dominate.

The most moral Whites are those who "woke up" while they were still comfortable and risked their comforts in order to do the right thing. Lesser Whites wake up only when they can't afford to do otherwise.

With all due respect to those who have made (and continue to make) great personal sacrifices for their beliefs, I don't see what constructive purpose it serves to try to categorize people into "heroes" or "cowards", "do-alls" or "do-nothings", "hardcore activists" vs "poseurs", etc., especially if the goal is to build a popular movement. In another thread, I seem to recall Alex Linder talking about starting up his own WN "Jonestown" type project, with the insinuation that if you weren't prepared to pack up your bags and join, you're not showing enough dedication. What are comments such as these supposed to accomplish?

WN needs all the help it can get. Isn't it better to have the support of someone who is sympathetic to WN and willing to make small contributions of either time or money than to alienate or insult such people by telling them they're not doing enough? Having "part-time" activists on your team can take a lot of slack off the "full-time" ones and provide some much-needed encouragement to boot. It also doesn't hurt to have people sympathetic to your cause inside the system, but sorry, people working in the system can't go around with swastikas tattooed on their foreheads.

I'm white and I'm a nationalist and I cannot wait to see the Jews get what's coming to them, but I continue to be ambivalent towards supporting "WN" causes. It's not because I'm a "coward". It's not because I'm "lazy" or "selfish". It's because I don't like the fanaticism I keep running across in WN, including here on VNNF. It's like a lot of WN's simply can't grasp that there are no absolutes in life, and that not everyone is willing to cast off their family, friends, careers, etc., simply because they did. Until WN movers and shakers learn to understand and respect that, I don't think WN has a snowball's chance in hell of taking off as a popular movement (or maybe it's not intended to?).

And yes, hard times are certainly ahead for white people, but that's no guarantee that they will embrace WN ideology. Certain "atheistic" WN's remind me of fundamentalist Christians in a way - they're waiting for Doomsday to arrive, at which point all the white sheeple will suddenly snap out of their Jew-induced hypnosis and congregate around the second coming of Hitler. I strongly doubt that the future is going to unfold that way.

People aren't perfect, and fate rarely deals you a perfect hand. You have to accept people as they are and do the best with what you've got. People who can't temper their ideals with a bit of realism are setting themselves up for failure and disappointment.

With all due respect to those who have made (and continue to make) great personal sacrifices for their beliefs, I don't see what constructive purpose it serves to try to categorize people into "heroes" or "cowards", "do-alls" or "do-nothings", "hardcore activists" vs "poseurs", etc., especially if the goal is to build a popular movement. In another thread, I seem to recall Alex Linder talking about starting up his own WN "Jonestown" type project, with the insinuation that if you weren't prepared to pack up your bags and join, you're not showing enough dedication. What are comments such as these supposed to accomplish?

The way I read Alex Linder's comments on the thread you're referring to, is that he was questioning the level of commitment Whites have to their own survival. White survival isn't a part time hobby, it's all or nothing essentially because we have enemies that have made our extiction their top priority. If Whites aren't prepared to do whatever is necessary, we aren't going to triumph over an enemy that is prepared to do whatever it takes to win.

WN needs all the help it can get. Isn't it better to have the support of someone who is sympathetic to WN and willing to make small contributions of either time or money than to alienate or insult such people by telling them they're not doing enough? Having "part-time" activists on your team can take a lot of slack off the "full-time" ones and provide some much-needed encouragement to boot. It also doesn't hurt to have people sympathetic to your cause inside the system, but sorry, people working in the system can't go around with swastikas tattooed on their foreheads.

That's an interesting perspective, BUT people working "in the system" as you put it very often believe in the system, and furthermore they have much to lose by embracing WN and also with a WN victory, or rather I imagine that would be their perspective. If you have a good perch in the system it seems unlikely you'd be in favor of rocking the boat. Of course, it all depends on what you specifically mean by "working in the system." Are they zealously enforcing the Jew dictated White genocide?

I'm white and I'm a nationalist and I cannot wait to see the Jews get what's coming to them, but I continue to be ambivalent towards supporting "WN" causes. It's not because I'm a "coward". It's not because I'm "lazy" or "selfish". It's because I don't like the fanaticism I keep running across in WN, including here on VNNF. It's like a lot of WN's simply can't grasp that there are no absolutes in life, and that not everyone is willing to cast off their family, friends, careers, etc., simply because they did. Until WN movers and shakers learn to understand and respect that, I don't think WN has a snowball's chance in hell of taking off as a popular movement (or maybe it's not intended to?).

I don't follow that statement "cast off their family, friends, careers, etc." Where exactly do you get that from VNNF? However, if you're implying that we need to "go along to get along" and that direct challenge to White genocide if it conflicts with "family, friends, careers, etc." is to be rejected then you're definitely not going to see the Jews "get what's coming to them." Bottom line is if you genuinely want to see the Jews get what's coming to them, then Whites are going to have to get down and dirty, and guess what, there's going to be "family, friends, careers, etc." that aren't going to accomodate that. So, it really is a question of how committed we are as a race to our own survival.

And yes, hard times are certainly ahead for white people, but that's no guarantee that they will embrace WN ideology. Certain "atheistic" WN's remind me of fundamentalist Christians in a way - they're waiting for Doomsday to arrive, at which point all the white sheeple will suddenly snap out of their Jew-induced hypnosis and congregate around the second coming of Hitler. I strongly doubt that the future is going to unfold that way.

People aren't perfect, and fate rarely deals you a perfect hand. You have to accept people as they are and do the best with what you got. People who can't temper their ideals with a bit of realism are setting themselves up for failure.

It's not a question of being a rapture bunny, but rather a realistic assessment of current political trends. There are consequences to the policies the Jew has been pursuing, like hollowing out our economy, the weakness of the dollar, importation of foodstuffs, strengthening belligerents like China at our expense, and importation of the colored hordes into White lands. All the while propagandizing the colored hordes to hate Whitey, and also weaking Whites by diluting our numbers in positions of power and wealth.

The consequence is likely to be massive instability, and most probably an economic depression the likes of which will be unprecedented in America. If in those conditions Whites are still more concerned about nigger ball on tv and SUVs and whatever other bullshit most Whites obsess over then our race is toast. Put a fork in us we're done. If on the other hand a collapse forces Whites to finally look reality in the eye, then WN will snowball into a potent force.

The future remains to be seen, but an economic collapse is coming, and if speculations like Peak Oil are realized, the collapse is going to be apocalyptic.

religion. We have a very weak religion in the west. The jewish bible is evil, and it has poisioned our people. We all need to go back to the old ways were are religion is 100% Aryan grouping our people by culture and custom that no ther can enjoy.

The way I read Alex Linder's comments on the thread you're referring to, is that he was questioning the level of commitment Whites have to their own survival. White survival isn't a part time hobby, it's all or nothing essentially because we have enemies that have made our extiction their top priority. If Whites aren't prepared to do whatever is necessary, we aren't going to triumph over an enemy that is prepared to do whatever it takes to win.

Doesn't that confirm my point? WN isn't going to win any converts with that "all or nothing" attitude. It's better to have someone partially on your side than not at all. If you can even get someone thinking about these types of issues, let alone taking action, that's not too shabby. Desperate times call for desperate measures, but we haven't hit those times yet, and probably won't for a few more decades.

That's an interesting perspective, BUT people working "in the system" as you put it very often believe in the system, and furthermore they have much to lose by embracing WN and also with a WN victory, or rather I imagine that would be their perspective. If you have a good perch in the system it seems unlikely you'd be in favor of rocking the boat.

I've known some bureaucrats, professionals, university professors, etc., who don't really like the way things are, but they have a family to feed, mortgage to pay, actually like their job, etc. No, they can't rock the boat, but they can occasionally sway things in the right direction, and besides, I'd rather see those positions being occupied by them than by Jews. Having friends in high places can't hurt, especially as things continue to deteriorate.

I don't follow that statement "cast off their family, friends, careers, etc." Where exactly do you get that from VNNF?

It wasn't specifically directed at VNNF or at all WN's. Just those who have put it all on the line and expect everyone else to follow. I want to make it clear that I'm not bashing those who have made activism the focal point of their lives]However, if you're implying that we need to "go along to get along" and that direct challenge to White genocide if it conflicts with "family, friends, careers, etc." is to be rejected then you're definitely not going to see the Jews "get what's coming to them."

The Jews will get what's coming to them just as soon as a majority of the white population realizes that the Holocaust is a lie. That's all it will take, not that it will be an easy task. With that done, all else will follow. There is nothing fundamentally wrong with the majority of the white race, except that it has swallowed some whoppers which have sent it down the wrong path.

Bottom line is if you genuinely want to see the Jews get what's coming to them, then Whites are going to have to get down and dirty, and guess what, there's going to be "family, friends, careers, etc." that aren't going to accomodate that. So, it really is a question of how committed we are as a race to our own survival.

So what's getting "down and dirty"? The Jews have us outgunned and popular support is on their side.

... diluting our numbers in positions of power and wealth.

You mean, people working within the system? But what do they matter, when you've got a bunch of fanatics with guns living in the backwoods!

The consequence is likely to be massive instability, and most probably an economic depression the likes of which will be unprecedented in America.

See, this is what I mean by apocalyptic thinking. Right-wing cranks have been predicting that the system was going to collapse for at least the last 50 years. Well, guess what? The system hasn't collapsed, and I'm not going to place all my chips on the certainty that it will come crashing down like the WTC building. If that makes me a fence-sitter, then so be it - I'm a fence-sitter (though I'd rather be called a realist). Personally, what I see happening in the future is what's been happening all along - a slow and steady decline, out with a whimper, not with a bang. But fanatics find that type of scenario hard to deal with, because it doesn't fit into their black-or-white, all-or-nothing view of the world.

If in those conditions Whites are still more concerned about nigger ball on tv and SUVs and whatever other bullshit most Whites obsess over then our race is toast.

But why do you care? Why do you want to save a bunch of people who you seem to have no respect for and have little in commmon with? Maybe you and a few other WN's can look out for each other by setting up WN communities, but you're not going to save the entire race, especially if you keep expecting them to make sacrifices few are willing to make. So which is it - a WN clubhouse or do we want a popular movement? If we want a popular movement, the masses are gonna have to be met halfway.

Put a fork in us we're done. If on the other hand a collapse forces Whites to finally look reality in the eye, then WN will snowball into a potent force.

Again, apocalyptic thinking. If a collapse happens...
So what do we do until then?

The future remains to be seen, but an economic collapse is coming, and if speculations like Peak Oil are realized, the collapse is going to be apocalyptic.

I first heard about "Peak Oil" about 4 years ago from the website of a left-wing/populist conpiracy theorist named Mike Ruppert. I think he got most of his ideas from a Jew named Heinberg who wrote a book called "The Party's Over". Recently, AFP reported that the Bilderberg group was discussing Peak Oil at their last conference.

I'm not convinced Peak Oil isn't a bunch of horseshit, along the same lines as the global warming scam. I wouldn't build any definite plans around sketchy future scenarios that may or may not happen. But even if Peak Oil is real, again, it's not going to be some instant cataclysmic event, it will be yet another gradual process.

With all due respect to those who have made (and continue to make) great personal sacrifices for their beliefs, I don't see what constructive purpose it serves to try to categorize people into "heroes" or "cowards", "do-alls" or "do-nothings", "hardcore activists" vs "poseurs", etc., especially if the goal is to build a popular movement. In another thread, I seem to recall Alex Linder talking about starting up his own WN "Jonestown" type project, with the insinuation that if you weren't prepared to pack up your bags and join, you're not showing enough dedication. What are comments such as these supposed to accomplish?

WN needs all the help it can get. Isn't it better to have the support of someone who is sympathetic to WN and willing to make small contributions of either time or money than to alienate or insult such people by telling them they're not doing enough? Having "part-time" activists on your team can take a lot of slack off the "full-time" ones and provide some much-needed encouragement to boot. It also doesn't hurt to have people sympathetic to your cause inside the system, but sorry, people working in the system can't go around with swastikas tattooed on their foreheads.

I'm white and I'm a nationalist and I cannot wait to see the Jews get what's coming to them, but I continue to be ambivalent towards supporting "WN" causes. It's not because I'm a "coward". It's not because I'm "lazy" or "selfish". It's because I don't like the fanaticism I keep running across in WN, including here on VNNF. It's like a lot of WN's simply can't grasp that there are no absolutes in life, and that not everyone is willing to cast off their family, friends, careers, etc., simply because they did. Until WN movers and shakers learn to understand and respect that, I don't think WN has a snowball's chance in hell of taking off as a popular movement (or maybe it's not intended to?).

And yes, hard times are certainly ahead for white people, but that's no guarantee that they will embrace WN ideology. Certain "atheistic" WN's remind me of fundamentalist Christians in a way - they're waiting for Doomsday to arrive, at which point all the white sheeple will suddenly snap out of their Jew-induced hypnosis and congregate around the second coming of Hitler. I strongly doubt that the future is going to unfold that way.

People aren't perfect, and fate rarely deals you a perfect hand. You have to accept people as they are and do the best with what you've got. People who can't temper their ideals with a bit of realism are setting themselves up for failure and disappointment.

"Fanatacism" in the pursuit of freedom and survival, is no vice. Non-fanatical WNs just ain't "there" yet. Jew-wise White men who aren't fanatics are mentally defective or limp-wristed cowards, or both.

You think too much, and act not at all. You're a contented spectator, lacking in a minimum will of your alleged jew-wise convictions. A defeatist spreading defeatism, thus less valuable to WN and our Race, than the ignorant lemmings you criticise.

"You've learned the jews yet refuse to warn your kinsmen of the jewish menace, thus an accomplice of the jews, and an assessory in the jewish enslavement and genocide of your own people".

Simple as that. Now do your freakin racial duty, and send me some freakin money to support VNN's Activism Project, The Aryan Alternative newspaper.

Now do your freakin racial duty, and send me some freakin money to support VNN's Activism Project, The Aryan Alternative newspaper.

I sent you a money order.
Let me know when it gets there.

(Good thing there's a couple of us pussies in the background sending you men-of-action some money, eh? Might be hard to publish a newspaper otherwise.)

"Fanatacism" in the pursuit of freedom and survival, is no vice. Non-fanatical WNs just ain't "there" yet. Jew-wise White men who aren't fanatics are mentally defective or limp-wristed cowards, or both.

As Birdman Bryant says, "Patience is for those who lack conviction."

As Birdman Bryant says, "Patience is for those who lack conviction."

"Patience is bitter, but its fruit is sweet." - Jean Jacques Rousseau

With all due respect to those who have made (and continue to make) great personal sacrifices for their beliefs, I don't see what constructive purpose it serves to try to categorize people into "heroes" or "cowards", "do-alls" or "do-nothings", "hardcore activists" vs "poseurs", etc., especially if the goal is to build a popular movement. In another thread, I seem to recall Alex Linder talking about starting up his own WN "Jonestown" type project, with the insinuation that if you weren't prepared to pack up your bags and join, you're not showing enough dedication. What are comments such as these supposed to accomplish?

WN needs all the help it can get. Isn't it better to have the support of someone who is sympathetic to WN and willing to make small contributions of either time or money than to alienate or insult such people by telling them they're not doing enough? Having "part-time" activists on your team can take a lot of slack off the "full-time" ones and provide some much-needed encouragement to boot. It also doesn't hurt to have people sympathetic to your cause inside the system, but sorry, people working in the system can't go around with swastikas tattooed on their foreheads.

I'm white and I'm a nationalist and I cannot wait to see the Jews get what's coming to them, but I continue to be ambivalent towards supporting "WN" causes. It's not because I'm a "coward". It's not because I'm "lazy" or "selfish". It's because I don't like the fanaticism I keep running across in WN, including here on VNNF. It's like a lot of WN's simply can't grasp that there are no absolutes in life, and that not everyone is willing to cast off their family, friends, careers, etc., simply because they did. Until WN movers and shakers learn to understand and respect that, I don't think WN has a snowball's chance in hell of taking off as a popular movement (or maybe it's not intended to?).

And yes, hard times are certainly ahead for white people, but that's no guarantee that they will embrace WN ideology. Certain "atheistic" WN's remind me of fundamentalist Christians in a way - they're waiting for Doomsday to arrive, at which point all the white sheeple will suddenly snap out of their Jew-induced hypnosis and congregate around the second coming of Hitler. I strongly doubt that the future is going to unfold that way.

People aren't perfect, and fate rarely deals you a perfect hand. You have to accept people as they are and do the best with what you've got. People who can't temper their ideals with a bit of realism are setting themselves up for failure and disappointment.

Could you cite that quote, please?

"Patience is bitter, but its fruit is sweet." - Jean Jacques Rousseau

Ah yes...Rousseau, that forbear of modern communism. One of Marx's heartthrobs, wasn't he? (just funnin' with ya).

"Patience is a voigin." -- A. Bunker

Could you cite that quote, please?

I'm pretty sure it was in the thread "if you're opposed to VNN -- fuck you":
http://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=22504

There's about 411 replies in that thread so if it really matters to you, you're gonna have to find it yourself.

It's somewhere close to where Alex starts talking about creating a gene-based religion.

I'm pretty sure it was in the thread "if you're opposed to VNN -- fuck you":
http://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=22504

There's about 411 replies in that thread so if it really matters to you, you're gonna have to find it yourself.

It's somewhere close to where Alex starts talking about creating a gene-based religion.

Thanks, I'll look for it. :cheers: