Hal is a good man, in my opinion. I salute him for his courage and outspokenness, for spreading the truth about our situation. I also recommend that you send him monitary contributions, if you really care about the White race.

The anti-Hal folks. If it's a matter of taste, and you just don't like him, don't listen to him. What's so hard about that? If you also attack him, instead of just not listening to him -- a yellow star hovers about you in my mind.

What gets me is that every time somebody stands up and speaks, there's always somebody to say they are a jew. This is childish and does no good to our movement. And I think the previous poster is right, a yellow star does hang above the heads of those who accuse others of being a jew.

I was thinking more of having the fight broadcast during the radio show. I haven't heard a fight on the radio in a long, long time.

This will be widely posted on newsgroups and other sources.

Hal Turner:

a) tried to fake his own death under the now banned nym of Aryan Insider. Headline was "Hal Turner, dead at 42"

b) Hal was live on the air while claiming on his website that he was about ready to die with a 106 fever. He said he needed money right away because he didn't have health insurance. Hal made an incredibile recovery just two days later. And again, he wanted to charge his listeners to find out what disease made him have a 106 fever.

c) ended one of his shows with a "heart attack", fake

d) ended one of his shows with a "faked aryan invasion" which aryan-nations.org confirmed a few days later.

e) fully cooperated with the police in the presense of Harry Schwartz & Daryle Lamont Jenkins. Instead of having "I have nothing to say", Hal had plenty to say including turning over his 1-800 caller list as sources of "potential violence"

f) Threatened to sue his own listeners when they "donated" to his show using American Express cards and American Express terminated Hal's contract.

g) Best friend was James Mazzone, whom Hal knew was a convicted drug dealer.

h) Hal and James Mazzone both cooperated by wearing wires and cooperating with federal law enforcement. This was known at a Aryan Nations conferencei n Pennsylvania in 2002. Only when Mazzone went to jail under a very generous deal did Hal "reveal" that Mazzone was working for the feds.

i) Hal Turner was the cooperating anonymous federal informant who turned in race traitor Artie Wheeler. Wheeler was arrested right after Hal Turner paid him a visit in order to take "grandma Elizabeth" to a rally in DC run by Billy Roper.

j) Claimed he had some syndrome that was eating his flesh alive and had only a slight chance of living. He not only got "cured aka Benny Hinn" style but doesn't have a single scar on his face.

k) Was campaign manager for Murray Sabrin, a Jew

l) Claimed he needed $5,000 to pay for an cancer operation for his son in Connecticut in 2003.

m) Hal Turner wants to kill and get rid of all minorities... But praises all the minorities and live at his apartment complex.

n) Falsely claimed to have been in the Marines. A search of his congressional campaign record shows him listing "no military service"

o) Claims to be on the the FBI's (montly visit list). There is no such list.

p) Hal is only anti-hispanic on the air. He attends a mostly majority hispanic church in Jersey City. His preacher is a non-white from the Phillipines.

q) Hal was charging his listeners $20 to find out what illness he was suffering from.

r) Hal wants to charge you $20 to meet him in person after the April Lansing rally.

s) Hal fucked up VNN big time when he briefly hosted them.

t) Hal claimed the Chinese were massing at the Mexican border ready to invade New Mexico

Hal is a good man, in my opinion. I salute him for his courage and outspokenness, for spreading the truth about our situation. I also recommend that you send him monitary contributions, if you really care about the White race.

The anti-Hal folks. If it's a matter of taste, and you just don't like him, don't listen to him. What's so hard about that? If you also attack him, instead of just not listening to him -- a yellow star hovers about you in my mind.

Hey, I sent the xtian scam artist many contributions over the years, and then I sent him $50.00 for his advertised CD and book, for which I got zilch, nada in return. It was later revealed that he has had an expensive cocaine problem, so I guess I know where my $50.00 went.

Lesson: Send all the contributions you want, but if Cocaine Hal offers something in return for your $$$, don't expect to actually get anything. Instead of sending $$$, he could probably make better use of a fresh, clean razor blade, a clean mirror, and a straw.

Yankee Jim may be able to help me out here.
I read and greatly enjoyed Hal's account of his trip to Brazil last year.
Hal is a talented writer and it was riveting.
NJ NA member, at least at the time, Tripp Henderson, was said to have went with Hal to Brazil. Now if Mr Henderson will confirm for us what Hal said, I realize Hal juices it up a little for interest and I don't object to that in his travelogue, but if Mr Henderson can confirm some of the more important points Hal made about the Brazil trip then I would feel relieved vis a vis his integrity,

Hal makes a great appearnce on TV he handled Geraldo as good as anyone I have ever seen.

Of all the people on the contemporary WN scene the ones I think are most solid are Alex Linder and Byron Calvert, that is of major players. There are many hardworking, selfless, dedicated brothers and sisters out there and if I name one I would have to name a hundred, many of them post on this forum.

Hal has all the tools to be a major player, someone who can really make a serious contribution however he has to be a standup man to do that, ditto for the NSM's BW.

Hal obviously can't keep an Internet radio show going, after years of trying to. What he needs to do instead is join the Von Bluven's Show as his microphone technician and office clerk (without pay, of course) and then, after a few years of on the job training, move up to assistant radio host, if he's been a good boy.

Seriously, Hal does overstate the costs by a wide margin. HOWEVER, running a show does cost and why bash Hal, or anyone else, for asking for contributions?

"Selling" TAA is exactly the same. Alex and Glenn are surely not getting rich off TAA and neither is VonBluvens off the VonBluvens Show.

TAA, VNN, VonBluvens Show nor Hal are free. Nor are they "Look at me" what a great guy a am sites. They are run by dedicated people, for White Nationalists. There is NO REASON why others can't chip in and help defray costs.

Some other poster says Hal has a day job. If so, how much of his monthly paycheck does he donate to running his own show? Any at all? At least a $1,000? $500? $50? God damn it - even a fuckin' NICKEL!? If he's working, he needs to prove he's carrrying a good chunk of the financial load - before having the unmitigated gall of asking the rest of us for Five-Fuckin-Thousand-Dollars!

Really, what he really ought to do is also ask for his so-called "inside sources" at the FBI to chuck in a few hundred bucks while they're at it, since they must be making pretty good money too. Finally, I've got to agree with Von Bluven's on one thing and one thing only - that Hal Turner is a blood-sucking leech.

CKnott: This will be widely posted on newsgroups and other sources.

Hal Turner:

a) tried to fake his own death under the now banned nym of Aryan Insider. Headline was "Hal Turner, dead at 42"

b) Hal was live on the air while claiming on his website that he was about ready to die with a 106 fever. He said he needed money right away because he didn't have health insurance. Hal made an incredibile recovery just two days later. And again, he wanted to charge his listeners to find out what disease made him have a 106 fever.

c) ended one of his shows with a "heart attack", fake

d) ended one of his shows with a "faked aryan invasion" which aryan-nations.org confirmed a few days later.

e) fully cooperated with the police in the presense of Harry Schwartz & Daryle Lamont Jenkins. Instead of having "I have nothing to say", Hal had plenty to say including turning over his 1-800 caller list as sources of "potential violence"

f) Threatened to sue his own listeners when they "donated" to his show using American Express cards and American Express terminated Hal's contract.

g) Best friend was James Mazzone, whom Hal knew was a convicted drug dealer.

h) Hal and James Mazzone both cooperated by wearing wires and cooperating with federal law enforcement. This was known at a Aryan Nations conferencei n Pennsylvania in 2002. Only when Mazzone went to jail under a very generous deal did Hal "reveal" that Mazzone was working for the feds.

i) Hal Turner was the cooperating anonymous federal informant who turned in race traitor Artie Wheeler. Wheeler was arrested right after Hal Turner paid him a visit in order to take "grandma Elizabeth" to a rally in DC run by Billy Roper.

j) Claimed he had some syndrome that was eating his flesh alive and had only a slight chance of living. He not only got "cured aka Benny Hinn" style but doesn't have a single scar on his face.

k) Was campaign manager for Murray Sabrin, a Jew

l) Claimed he needed $5,000 to pay for an cancer operation for his son in Connecticut in 2003.

m) Hal Turner wants to kill and get rid of all minorities... But praises all the minorities and live at his apartment complex.

n) Falsely claimed to have been in the Marines. A search of his congressional campaign record shows him listing "no military service"

o) Claims to be on the the FBI's (montly visit list). There is no such list.

p) Hal is only anti-hispanic on the air. He attends a mostly majority hispanic church in Jersey City. His preacher is a non-white from the Phillipines.

q) Hal was charging his listeners $20 to find out what illness he was suffering from.

r) Hal wants to charge you $20 to meet him in person after the April Lansing rally.

s) Hal fucked up VNN big time when he briefly hosted them.

t) Hal claimed the Chinese were massing at the Mexican border ready to invade New Mexico

This will be widely posted on newsgroups and other sources.

Hal Turner:

a) tried to fake his own death under the now banned nym of Aryan Insider. Headline was "Hal Turner, dead at 42"

b) Hal was live on the air while claiming on his website that he was about ready to die with a 106 fever. He said he needed money right away because he didn't have health insurance. Hal made an incredibile recovery just two days later. And again, he wanted to charge his listeners to find out what disease made him have a 106 fever.

c) ended one of his shows with a "heart attack", fake

d) ended one of his shows with a "faked aryan invasion" which aryan-nations.org confirmed a few days later.

e) fully cooperated with the police in the presense of Harry Schwartz & Daryle Lamont Jenkins. Instead of having "I have nothing to say", Hal had plenty to say including turning over his 1-800 caller list as sources of "potential violence"

f) Threatened to sue his own listeners when they "donated" to his show using American Express cards and American Express terminated Hal's contract.

g) Best friend was James Mazzone, whom Hal knew was a convicted drug dealer.

h) Hal and James Mazzone both cooperated by wearing wires and cooperating with federal law enforcement. This was known at a Aryan Nations conferencei n Pennsylvania in 2002. Only when Mazzone went to jail under a very generous deal did Hal "reveal" that Mazzone was working for the feds.

i) Hal Turner was the cooperating anonymous federal informant who turned in race traitor Artie Wheeler. Wheeler was arrested right after Hal Turner paid him a visit in order to take "grandma Elizabeth" to a rally in DC run by Billy Roper.

j) Claimed he had some syndrome that was eating his flesh alive and had only a slight chance of living. He not only got "cured aka Benny Hinn" style but doesn't have a single scar on his face.

k) Was campaign manager for Murray Sabrin, a Jew

l) Claimed he needed $5,000 to pay for an cancer operation for his son in Connecticut in 2003.

m) Hal Turner wants to kill and get rid of all minorities... But praises all the minorities and live at his apartment complex.

n) Falsely claimed to have been in the Marines. A search of his congressional campaign record shows him listing "no military service"

o) Claims to be on the the FBI's (montly visit list). There is no such list.

p) Hal is only anti-hispanic on the air. He attends a mostly majority hispanic church in Jersey City. His preacher is a non-white from the Phillipines.

q) Hal was charging his listeners $20 to find out what illness he was suffering from.

r) Hal wants to charge you $20 to meet him in person after the April Lansing rally.

s) Hal fucked up VNN big time when he briefly hosted them.

t) Hal claimed the Chinese were massing at the Mexican border ready to invade New Mexico

Nobody's perfect.

Maybe Hal jazzes things up a bit for listener interest... he admits such on his show. But he is a good man. Most of what you have put down there is pure crap.

About point i. If Artie was betrayed by Hal, he has a funny way of showing resentment. Artie is on Hal's show just about every week. Grandma Wheeler was on his show last week.

Hal says the radio show's costs are upwards of $5000 (which I have no reason to doubt, although it does seem very expensive). He puts up listener contributions, which amount to about $2000/month, so Hal has to pay the rest (around $3000 per month) out of his own pocket.

He does work, and I guess he is pretty highly paid, as he seems like a smart guy and a consumate professional. But, not many people can afford to pay $5000 for something like this. So contributions are required.

However, Hal should realise that this show is too expensive. Contributions will never amount to $5000 per month. Stormfront, with something like 100,000 members probably couldn't raise $5000 per month.

Seriously, Hal does overstate the costs by a wide margin. HOWEVER, running a show does cost and why bash Hal, or anyone else, for asking for contributions?

You just said why we get on his case, he LIES to white people. You did a number of shows bashing Hal for the same reasons if I remember. So explain why then you thought he was a con man and why now you think he isn't? If Hal were one bit honest, no need for threads like this.

"Selling" TAA is exactly the same. Alex and Glenn are surely not getting rich off TAA

It is not the same. You are getting a product in return, 100 copies for $16. No profit in that for Rounder and Alex at all.

Re: New Order

Hal never went to Brazil. He made the whole thing up.

About point i. If Artie was betrayed by Hal, he has a funny way of showing resentment. Artie is on Hal's show just about every week. Grandma Wheeler was on his show last week.

Hal was the confidential informant they used in the case. Since Artie plead guilty, Hal didn't have to reveal he was the CI and testify. Remember Artie's arrest took place right after Hal visited his home. If Artie hadn't plead guilty, Hal would have had to reveal himself.

He does work,

He doesn't work. Go to http://www.nimbusters.com and ask in the forums. They'll show you.

You just said why we get on his case, he LIES to white people. You did a number of shows bashing Hal for the same reasons if I remember. So explain why then you thought he was a con man and why now you think he isn't? If Hal were one bit honest, no need for threads like this.

It is not the same. You are getting a product in return, 100 copies for $16. No profit in that for Rounder and Alex at all.

Re: New Order

Hal never went to Brazil. He made the whole thing up.

I did take Hal to task. I may just do it again.

Hal was a con man. It appears he's pulling that shit again.

HOWEVER, with TAA you get paper, with Internet Radio you get "Sound"

Try that shitty line of reasoning with your CABLE company and see where it gets you.

TAA ia a good paper and it costs. Hal is a good show and it costs. (Just nowhere near what he claims!)

Wow, hal never served in the Marines?

Wow.

I appreciate what he does, but things do seem strange.

The most telling point about the whole money thing is that he used to do his show for 2 hours a night 4 nights a week, and he had the 800 phone line. Now the show is one night a week, with no 800 # and the costs are exactly the same.

He'll never take the show off the air for any real extended period of time. His ego won't allow it...and if he does....so be it.

The most telling point about the whole money thing is that he used to do his show for 2 hours a night 4 nights a week, and he had the 800 phone line. Now the show is one night a week, with no 800 # and the costs are exactly the same.

He'll never take the show off the air for any real extended period of time. His ego won't allow it...and if he does....so be it.

They are much higher. It was $1,400 a month. Then it went up, and up, and up. Now he does 2 hours a week and it's up to $5,000 a month. Here is an old archived version of halturnershow.com
Notice his expense back then.

He lied about the cost of the bandwidth back then. And he doesn't have a 1-800 number nor a WBCQ expense
Bandwidth is very inexpensive today, about 1/5th it was in 2002

He does 1/4th the shows

And yes "Doc", that's why everyone should get on Hal's shit. He lies to white people.

One more snap shot from hal's old site about expenses

Notice the same old scam from Hal in 2002...