It's a good question too. Deserves to be answered.
Lot of people here are quick to jump on someone that TRIES to do something.
"I joined the Communist Party, USA, in 2000, in my post-leftist / post-anarchist period, as a joke."--Bill White
What a silly question to ask. How the heck can you compare an enormous cable and satellite news network with a small one-man operation done in the comfort of his own home with a co-located server?
Secondly, I haven't seen FoxNews blackmail their viewers and then stab in the back those who have assisted in financing their operation.
Thirdly, Fox News is owned by Rupert Murdoch who is NOT Jewish. Although it is true that Fox News is sympathetic to Israel.
I like Hal and have donated to him in the past. However I am not happy with the way he is handling things and don't believe his costs are anywhere near what he claims them to be. I have previously donated to Yahweh's Truth, NSM and Hal Turner. But now after this latest stunt I have trimmed my list to the NSM and Yahweh's Truth.
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Alex runs a wn website, with a radio show (occasionally) and downloadable audio archives. He should be able to confirm whether the costs quoted by Turner are ballpark realistic.
What is your opinion Alex? Do you think it would cost Hal $5200 a month to run his operation?
Is not just the internet”. Doing a show requires preparations, rehearsals, plus the fact that he travels for demonstrations ect, there’s not enough time left in a day to fulfill other obligations to maintain household expenses. All these things are time consume expenses.
Incidentally, New Jersey is taxed up to the wazoo that many folks here are moving out.
Here's a suggestion.
If anyone has any questions for Hal...why don't you join him in York, PA on the 29th?
I'm sure there'll be a "Victory Feast" afterwards like there was after the last one. (I was there)
Keep the bullshit off the forum, and ask Hal to his face, in a room full of people. Think about it...and while you're thinking...remain focused on the jew! Should be the end of the discussion.
-Jim
That is right Jim all the crying and bitching does for people (especially newly awakening folks) is put doubt in their heads. I suggest everyone get on the same page here with this radio program. This program right now is the best thing we have going for us. So what if Hal makes some extra bucks off of providing this service he well deserves it . I would go so far as to say that not anyone on this board gets as much as a 10th of amount of heat from the kikes and their puppets as Hal does. Who on here is bitching about jew stern getting 5 hundred million for its filth. You don't hear the jew bitching about his payday, no you do not they get behind their people. We need to get behind our radio host also :cheers:
As for the person that called Hal a bitch quit talking like a nigger:rolleyes:
nothing says lovin' like a jew in the oven
"What do you expect? All we got on this team are a bunch a Jews, spics, niggers, pansies -- and a booger-eatin' moron!"
Tanner Boyle - short stop for the Bad News Bears.
Not very well informed , is he ? This 'water stations' humanitarian outreach has been going on for decades , sponsored by churches , mostly .
Calling you 'crazy' , for making such a plain and reasonable statement , I can understand why you unsubscribed . To condemn a reasonable assertion without researching it seems to fit his behavior , irrational .
From all that has been discussed , it appears that there are better places to put our resources .
Hal probably thought that the poster meant that the GOVERNMENT was doing this, which is not the case. It is private citizens.
The ADL has riased $113,000,000 in its endowment fund raiser. The Jews are just 3% of the population in the Unuted States. Until we can start to raise funds like that from our people, then we are indeed lost.
The number of listeners Hal gets every week, it should be no problem for most of those people to 'poney up' some hard cash. While we give our little $5, $10, $20, donations, the individual Jews give thousands to their cause's.
Have you ever heard of Von Bluvens? He has had as much, or more, heat than Hal has. As far as I know, Hal has never had the media camped out outside his house like Von has. As far as I know, Hal's wife hasn't been harassed and attacked like Von's wife has.
I would go so far as to say that not anyone on this board gets as much as a 10th of amount of heat from the kikes and their puppets as Hal does.
The latest Hal Turner scam. Tomorrow is Saturday (so how is Hal supposed to show up with payment on a SATURDAY when his credit card is declined???) plus even if you did mail something today, he won't get it in time.
I guess he doesn't have the 90 bucks in bandwidth charges. That's on a very high side. It's probably around $50.
"Doomsday" for this site?
Tonight after midnight, the data center will tally my bandwidth charges for March and electronically bill them to the credit card I have on file. I suspect that charge will be declined.
If declined, I will get notice to show up with payment within 24 hours. - But I don't have it.
If I don't show up because I don't have the funds, I am not certain how long they will leave the connection active. This site could go offline.
If enough funds come in, I can make payment and the server will come back online. So if you haven't yet mailed $1, $2, $3, $5, $10, $20 $35, $50, $100 or more, please do so immediately to supoort this unique free speech site! If funds do not come in . . . . .
I want to thank the folks who cared enough to send contributions over the last 16 days. Of the 10,000+ people who visit this site each day, and the 2500+ people who download audio archives each week, only 133 thought enough of the FREE SPEECH found here to make a contribution. To them I say "Thank you!"
The other "proud white people" who come here each day did nothing to help. "Nothing" is what they are really good at. "Nothing" is what they do very well. "Nothing" is what they actually DO for the white race. "Nothing" is what you can count on them for when things go bad.
I make this as a general statement and not directed at anyone specifically.
like unconscious bacteria trapped inside a dingleberry on the buttox of a man who will do infinitely more than you ever will even after we clone you 10x and evaluate you on the span of your many lives, there seems to be a lack of understanding.
The actual cost for just one man to build a 24/7 radio and tv station on the internet is $10,000.00, not $5,200.00, that is what it takes if we want someone to build a professional and international media conglomerate, but you want fine wine on a cheap swill beer budget. $5,200 is a drop of dust, the whole sale price, the bare minimum. The reality is if Hal Turner was cash strapped with 10K a month, he would actually have the ability to launch a 24/7 TV and Radio Station online, something NO ONE has done yet.
We are our own worst enemy, because we are cheaper bastards than the Jews. We don't deserve to live, because we want to pine over pathetic numbers like calling someone a liar over $5,200. You have NO clue what it costs to live in the NY/NJ metro area, and that is not meant to be personal, you're just lacking in a clue.
If 20,000 white nationalists donated only $50 a month to the various groups actually doing something we could win this struggle over night, but instead you would rather be wiped and bidet'd out of existence for what you really are, non existence, you don't even exist, youre random words mean nothing, what have you done? Because if you have cable, watch tv, smoke cigs, drink booze, and you're not spending atleast $50 in donations to the right org, then you have nothing, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO SAY, because you are a cheap dirty filthy jew.
We build a global media to put the jews out of business on $50 a person, and since you can't do that, you have nothing to say.
WE WILL NEVER WIN THIS STRUGGLE WITH OUT EXCESSIVE CASH FLOW YOU CHEAP JEWS.
SolarGeneral is going offline in less than 30 days, I need your help getting the videos, audio and books off this site and putting them on other web sites.
I make this as a general statement and not directed at anyone specifically.
like unconscious bacteria trapped inside a dingleberry on the buttox of a man who will do infinitely more than you ever will even after we clone you 10x and evaluate you on the span of your many lives, there seems to be a lack of understanding.
The actual cost for just one man to build a 24/7 radio and tv station on the internet is $10,000.00, not $5,200.00, that is what it takes if we want someone to build a professional and international media conglomerate, but you want fine wine on a cheap swill beer budget. $5,200 is a drop of dust, the whole sale price, the bare minimum. The reality is if Hal Turner was cash strapped with 10K a month, he would actually have the ability to launch a 24/7 TV and Radio Station online, something NO ONE has done yet.
We are our own worst enemy, because we are cheaper bastards than the Jews. We don't deserve to live, because we want to pine over pathetic numbers like calling someone a liar over $5,200. You have NO clue what it costs to live in the NY/NJ metro area, and that is not meant to be personal, you're just lacking in a clue.
If 20,000 white nationalists donated only $50 a month to the various groups actually doing something we could win this struggle over night, but instead you would rather be wiped and bidet'd out of existence for what you really are, non existence, you don't even exist, youre random words mean nothing, what have you done? Because if you have cable, watch tv, smoke cigs, drink booze, and you're not spending atleast $50 in donations to the right org, then you have nothing, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO SAY, because you are a cheap dirty filthy jew.
We build a global media to put the jews out of business on $50 a person, and since you can't do that, you have nothing to say.
WE WILL NEVER WIN THIS STRUGGLE WITH OUT EXCESSIVE CASH FLOW YOU CHEAP JEWS.
How true you are. Who could argue with that statement? It is a joke if we can't even raise 5200 for a just cause. I got a filling that most on hear have cable television or satellite that goes straight to the jew, but whine oye vye we are being ripped off to give to a White Nationalist media outlet. Well i have some news for you, you are not being anything because you do not contribute so there fore you do not exist but on a free message board. Oh by the way this message board is not free either but only to you folks that do not contribute.
I myself do not contribute like I would like but hell at least I give when possible and even when it is not practical but that is the price I am willing to pay for our people to pull their heads out of their asses.
Where else are you going to get these shows like
Metzger, Wickstrum, Geller, NSM, Jew Watch and so forth all one the same site live if they choose. I will tell you not anywhere it is time to shut the hell up and start producing and the Turner Radio Network is the place to do it. The folk of VNN ought to jump on the band wagon. Imagine what a powerful force we could be if we all got on the same page with our media. These god damn jews and traitors would start tolling the line. Now lets fight together and not at one another.:box: :box: :box: :box: :box: :box: :box: :box:
nothing says lovin' like a jew in the oven
"What do you expect? All we got on this team are a bunch a Jews, spics, niggers, pansies -- and a booger-eatin' moron!"
Tanner Boyle - short stop for the Bad News Bears.
Fine words oh great brave Aryan warriors.
Now back to the real world.... If these costs are $5200 per month as Hal says, then he is fighting a losing battle to raise this kind of cash every month. I think this fund-raiser has gone very well to be honest, and it is still far short of the amount required.
However, this amazing fund-raising effort would have to be repeated month after month to keep this show going. That is just not going to happen.
Hal is a great guy, I wish he could keep his show going, but we have to face reality... these costs are just not feasible. I don't want to see Hal financially ruined again, so my advice to Hal is to take the show down, and do something that won't send him to the wall financially.
The answer is simple. He needs an independent treasurer/auditor/money man to fix his business plan.
That's all, no hard feelings. When this is done, we will all be better off, and many of us will re-donate money, seeing how it will benefit us.
First thing he needs to do is sell that brand new server he bought for 5k. Then, move to a company like cable bay, you know, who have their own servers...this cuts data hosting, tons of expenses.
There is unfortunately no communication between stubborn WN groups. VNN and Turner need to get talking to each other. Stan... It really doesn't matter if you don't like each other. We need to radicalize the white race, and Hal does this.
This is a working class struggle. The money Hal received was incredible. I simply can't donate money to him if he will waste it. I don't have the money. I don't have five dollars even. Hal sees movies. I can't afford to go to the movies.
Hal should cut his personal expenses, flying all around the country to white nationalist meetings and nazi rallies. I'm sure he dips into the gracious amount of money decent white people send him for these trips. Even if he doesn't, the situation can't be that dire if he has two planned trips hundreds of miles from his house. If he is paying for these trips himself, he should cancel them, as a show of good faith and thankfulness to his listeners, and put this money into his network.
April 22, 2006
2:00 - 4:00 PM
at the State House
Lansing, MI
April 29, 2006
2:00 - 4:00 PM
at the Martin Library
159 East Market Street
York, PA
You know, if Hal takes some suggestions, like we are begging him, I will donate. Even if it means drinking water for a month instead of soda, etc. Yes this is how far I have gone in the past. I have sent money this way. He needs to look at our side, and how piss poor we are. We don't do it because we're jew bastards, we have very little money and need to know it will be spent wisely.
As a show of good faith, perhaps
1) Selling the new server and switching to cable bay, which VNN uses and seems to have a 100 percent free speech policy, and their own servers for cheaper.
2) Cancelling the trips to the two planned rallies (one NSM and one Creator) and putting money into the network. Maybe just go to the Creator one since you can drive to it and to honor Matt Hale.
I appreciate what Hal does, especially his engineering and setting up of the network. He doesn't see it from our side, he works his ass off after a hard's day of work and engineers these shows from 7-12. I hope that unlike the NSM he would take our opinions in mind and perhaps somehow cut costs because over 60000 dollars a year isn't making sense to a lot of us with internet experience.
Tune in if you can, and support the show if you're able to.
Terrible Tommy is on the air right now...taking YOUR call! GREAT SHOW!
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-Jim
Carry a pocket knife ,wear steel toe boots and always make sure that you have the advantage or these savage simians will fuck you up! -- "White Minority" from VNNForum
“To destroy is always the first step in any creation.”
-E.E.Cummings
-New Paltz, NY Mayor Jason West 08/18/2004
The bottom line is that hal does deserve to get paid to run the network as if it is a job. Some whites who listen to him do have money, and I see how he gets angry.
I do think that if he is being straight with us, that these are expenses, with no labor on top, he's got to cut his costs. I'll send in five bucks this weekend. It's all I have. We can't do this every month. I really don't care anymore if he's making thousands of dollars off our asses, we can determine this after we win. He was a total and complete dick last week. But we need a crazy asshole to lead us, apparently.
We must win, however, and we must fund this radical, extreme radio network immediately. Now.