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(@j-p-slovjanski)
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Good Ole Sla-jew-ski, telling us yet again what he would do if, if, if, if, if...........and certainly far away from any prying eyes, heh J.P.?

This should be good.

Of the handfull of posters in this Forum with over 4,000 posts, J.P. Sla-jew-ski remains a mysterious enigma. Despite being one of the most prodigious posters here, the very least is known about him personally.

Mysterious enigma? How long have you been here. Compared to yourself, and several others on this board, plenty is known about me "personally".

Never a positive influence on the WN movement despite his immense knowledge, J.P. is quick to degrade, demean, nullify and criticize ANYONE or GROUP that is actually doing something to affect change for white people. Is he an enemy of the white race as his behavior would indicate? Or is he our long lost saviour who will save us once he finishes reading all of the books in his WN library?

Actually I have had a positive influence on the movement in the sense that I have personally recruited several people and assisted in the recruiting of even more into "White Nationalism" during and after the time when I was with the National Alliance.

Many a WN has posed this question to J.P. in response to his never-ending criticism of our movement: "Well J.P., if we are so fucked up, why don't YOU start an organization and show us how to do it right!?" Alas, not even the logic of a 3rd grader can stir this sage from his slumber and compel him to act on behalf of his own people.

That question has already been posed, and I have already answered it.

#1. J.P. writes: "I would love to help, but you're a lost cause and I can't be seen associating with losers. I am saving my money for my move to Europe where they actually have a chance to succeed." Can you feel the love, VNNer's? We should be grateful that his finances, or lack thereof, keep him here with us.

Perhaps you would like to post the link to the post where I allegedly wrote that?

#2. In yet another thread, VNNer's again plead for J.P. to lead them to the promised land. Yet again, J.P. crushes their dreams with only three words: "I'm not ready." J.P. is content to just sit back and reflect upon the comedy of errors that IS the WN movement today. For every rally, literature distribution, protest, etc....WN activists are educating the great J.P. on what NOT to do when he finally puts it all together!

Literature distributions and protests? Already done that. That being said, would it be too much trouble for you to post the thread where this dialog took place? Either that or you could admit that you are lying.

Not to be deterred, these same VNNer's suggest to J.P. that, "Since you are not ready, how about exchanging contact information so we can form a loose affiliation of activists and begin fundraising?" Like a hard slap in the face on a wintry morning, J.P. announces that, "I already have a small group of people who I am in contact with.....people who I have known for years and can trust." There it is, folks. After 4,000 posts, endless debate and criticism, the truth comes out. None of you suckers will ever be good enough for the great J.P. Sla-jew-ski!

When did this happen? Show me the thread where people offered to get in contact with me and I allegedly refuse?

The truth is that J.P. will never move to Europe. He will never start his own organization. He will never provide any WN with any personal information that would encourage further contact. It's almost as if..........well..........J.P. will do anything to distance himself from true activists in order to keep his real identity a secret. And for all of this, I can only consider J.P. Sla-jew-ski an enemy of the white race. Nobody is buying the bullshit anymore, J.P., time to put up or shut the fuck up and stop criticizing the efforts of real activists.

Never provide any WN with personal information that would encourage further contact? Are you aware that in the Spring of 2003 I was actually living with another member and unit coordinator of the local National Alliance in a house where we coordinated literature distributions and held gatherings with other racialists in the city?

Are you feeling stupid yet?


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Posted : 02/01/2006 9:39 am
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Militaries actually plan their purpose, and execute their plans. They do not wear uniforms for the sake of wearing them or conveying some kind of image.

I'm sorry, I thought you were going to clarify just who does wear uniforms for the sake of wearing them. If you actually think that the Marine Corps dress blue uniform wasn't designed to "convey some kind of image", then you're either ignorant, or have never worn one.

It would take the same amount of courage to stand around in public wearing a NAMBLA shirt, and get roughly the same reaction from most of the populace. Activism and "courage" that is clearly contradictory to stated goals is meaningless.

You seem to have an unhealthy fixation with NAMBLA. It's not the first time you have used this comparison. Once again, will you please clarify just who is committing the sin(in your eyes, of course) of courageous activism that is contradictory to stated goals.


 
Posted : 02/01/2006 9:41 am
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You seem to have an unhealthy fixation with NAMBLA.
It's not the first time you have used this comparison.

Really? Perhaps you would like to back that up with some proof or would you like to forego that process by simply stating that on that issue, you are full of shit? How much would you like to bet that the reference was made on this very same topic, and is in fact this same argument?

Once again, will you please clarify just who is committing the sin(in your eyes, of course) of courageous activism that is contradictory to stated goals.

Oh in case you didn't know, according to Bill White, the NSM plans to take power 100% via legal means, e.g. the electoral process. There is no problem with that. The problem is that doing so means that one is ENTIRELY dependent on popular support and has absolutely no coercive options that factions in an insurgency would have available. That means that they must appeal to an overwhelming majority of the people in a country that has been a more or less two-party system for decades now. That being the case, one would see that it is CONTRADICTORY to deliberately don the image of something that is clearly hated in the United States, and engage in behavior that has never been part of the American political field, e.g. the wearing of uniforms.

That is why I say that they are acting in direct contradiction to their stated goals.


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Posted : 02/01/2006 9:49 am
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Anyone wearing, or rather, wallowing in the NAMBLA "lifestyle" is a member of an aggressively privileged and protected class. Said person might even wear one to provoke a reaction which would almost certainly result in sympathetically spun publicity and a suit with hefty damages paid.
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Careful not to use that acronym more than once or Rogue Postman will conclude that you have an "unhealthy fixation" with the organizaiton which identifies itself with said acronym.


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Posted : 02/01/2006 9:56 am
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Really? Perhaps you would like to back that up with some proof or would you like to forego that process by simply stating that on that issue, you are full of shit? How much would you like to bet that the reference was made on this very same topic, and is in fact this same argument?

Oh in case you didn't know, according to Bill White, the NSM plans to take power 100% via legal means, e.g. the electoral process. There is no problem with that. The problem is that doing so means that one is ENTIRELY dependent on popular support and has absolutely no coercive options that factions in an insurgency would have available. That means that they must appeal to an overwhelming majority of the people in a country that has been a more or less two-party system for decades now. That being the case, one would see that it is CONTRADICTORY to deliberately don the image of something that is clearly hated in the United States, and engage in behavior that has never been part of the American political field, e.g. the wearing of uniforms.

That is why I say that they are acting in direct contradiction to their stated goals.

Haven't you stated before that any organization you put together would be National Socialist in nature? If this is true, how do you intend to win popular support espousing an ideal that is forever linked with Adolf Hitler and the swastika?


 
Posted : 02/01/2006 9:57 am
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Anyone wearing, or rather, wallowing in the NAMBLA "lifestyle" is a member of an aggressively privileged and protected class. Said person might even wear one to provoke a reaction which would almost certainly result in sympathetically spun publicity and a suit with hefty damages paid.

Braver to wear an Anne Frank shirt with CUNT in huge red letters. If only I could find it again. :(

I agree.

I want one of those Anne Frank shirts! LMWNAO!


 
Posted : 02/01/2006 9:58 am
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Haven't you stated before that any organization you put together would be National Socialist in nature? If this is true, how do you intend to win popular support espousing an ideal that is forever linked with Adolf Hitler and the swastika?

Emphasis on National Socialist "in nature". I am more concerned with the principles of National Socialism than even the name itself, if need be. Wouldn't you agree? Furthermore, if something is forever linked with Adolf Hitler, what sense does it make to strengthen that link with one's outward image? Many people don't even know what National Socialism means, but you show them a SA mann in uniform and they'll know that's "bad" according to social standards, however misguided they may be.


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Posted : 02/01/2006 10:01 am
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Emphasis on National Socialist "in nature". I am more concerned with the principles of National Socialism than even the name itself, if need be. Wouldn't you agree? Furthermore, if something is forever linked with Adolf Hitler, what sense does it make to strengthen that link with one's outward image? Many people don't even know what National Socialism means, but you show them a SA mann in uniform and they'll know that's "bad" according to social standards, however misguided they may be.

I would agree 100% And you are right, the sheep do not know the first thing about National Socialism, but every single Jew would be able to identify your platform for what it is. They wouldn't be able to run fast enough to the first newsroom under their thumb, or the first congressional office they have bought and paid for, to expose your little ruse to the general masses. That is why it is the NSM's stance that no matter what you do, if you espouse the National Socialist ideal, you WILL be labeled a Nazi anyway, so what is the point of hiding it?


 
Posted : 02/01/2006 10:08 am
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I would agree 100% And you are right, the sheep do not know the first thing about National Socialism, but every single Jew would be able to identify your platform for what it is. They wouldn't be able to run fast enough to the first newsroom under their thumb, or the first congressional office they have bought and paid for, to expose your little ruse to the general masses. That is why it is the NSM's stance that no matter what you do, if you espouse the Natioanl Socialist ideal, you WILL be labeled a Nazi anyway, so what is the point of hiding it?

The NSM's stance is taking on the charicature of the evil nazi, removing the opportunity to actually speak with educated or otherwise intelligent Aryans about the real nature of National Socialism. They will see only the uniform and write you off from the beginning. Otherwise, people have been getting tired of the "Nazi" label for quite some time.

Not dressing up in a 1930's German uniform cannot be called "hiding" anything. It is simply recognizing the political situation one is in.


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Posted : 02/01/2006 10:14 am
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The NSM's stance is taking on the charicature of the evil nazi, removing the opportunity to actually speak with educated or otherwise intelligent Aryans about the real nature of National Socialism. They will see only the uniform and write you off from the beginning. Otherwise, people have been getting tired of the "Nazi" label for quite some time.

Not dressing up in a 1930's German uniform cannot be called "hiding" anything. It is simply recognizing the political situation one is in.

No, J.P., that is YOUR interpretation of the NSM's stance. Members of the NSM wear the SA uniform to honor the creator of National Socialism, Adolf Hitler. They also wear it to show that the ideal of National Socialism is alive and well and did not die with its founder. You will never see it this way, but that isn't important, it's important that members of the NSM see it this way and act accordingly. I would venture to guess that any intelligent Aryan who wishes to discuss the real nature of National Socialism, will do so with a SA uniformed member of the NSM before they would do so with someone in a suit and tie.


 
Posted : 02/01/2006 10:21 am
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No, J.P., that is YOUR interpretation of the NSM's stance. Members of the NSM wear the SA uniform to honor the creator of National Socialism, Adolf Hitler. They also wear it to show that the ideal of National Socialism is alive and well and did not die with its founder. You will never see it this way, but that isn't important, it's important that members of the NSM see it this way and act accordingly. I would venture to guess that any intelligent Aryan who wishes to discuss the real nature of National Socialism, will do so with a SA uniformed member of the NSM before they would do so with someone in a suit and tie.

You are assuming there is some inherent link between the uniforms of the SA, which was merely one party organ, and the ideals or ideology of National Socialism. Second, they will need to make a choice between political victory in America, which they state as their goal, or "honoring" the NSDAP of Germany with public displays in uniforms.


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Posted : 02/01/2006 10:32 am
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Would you ever wear a uniform to a rally?

Absou-fucking loutly!!! With Great pride.

Just like my father did in 44. :D

Of course, this Uniform you earn.It's far more than a fashion statement or political affectation.

Mine is pressed and ironed and waiting in the closet for the special occasion.


 
Posted : 02/01/2006 10:41 am
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Personally, I don't think the time is right for parading around in our true colors just yet and here's why:

The jewsmedia loves nothing more than broadcasting images of "goose-stepping neo-Nazis" into the living rooms of Mr. and Mrs. Asleep-at-the-wheel. They know it scares the living bejeebus out of them. These lemmings, after all, have been thoroughly indoctrinated to associate NS uniforms with The Holohoax -- the most horrendous event ever to "occur" in 5,000 years of recorded history. :rolleyes: And we are trying to get the lemming to at least listen to our pov, correct?

Suppose you have a rally with literally thousands of pro-Whites dressed in plain ol' civies and a mere handful donned in NS/Klan garb. Now just who -- out of all those people in attendance -- do you think jewsmedia cameras are going to zoom in on? The well-spoken White men in suits and ties elucidating their views on race, or the skinhead/NS/Klan attendants standing in the crowd listening to their speeches?

Remember -- image is what truly concerns the jew (and his brainwashed lemming) not content.

The time will come to dust off the robes and don the swazi armbands, I'm sure. I just don't think we're there yet.


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Posted : 02/01/2006 10:49 am
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Would you ever wear a uniform to a rally?

Absou-fucking loutly!!! With Great pride.

Just like my father did in 44. :D

Of course, this Uniform you earn.It's far more than a fashion statement or political affectation.

Mine is pressed and ironed and waiting in the closet for the special occasion.

What are you saying, that your father was in the Wehrmacht? There's plenty of kids of German veterans in the USA, are you one of them? Or did you mean veteran of the US armed forces?


 
Posted : 02/01/2006 11:14 am
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Funny, I doubt anyone would ask a military recruiter to give a convincing argument that uniforms are a good thing for the military. If a uniform provides an individual with a sense of pride, honor, mission, loyalty and participation, then I fail to see why anyone would have to justify them.

If we could restrict the criticism of uniformed members of our cause only to those non-uniformed WN's who have matched the former's activism and courage, then this whole issue would die a silent death overnight.

DRC

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Please don’t get me wrong, I think uniforms are damn cool, but most WN would say that right now we are fighting a war for hearts and minds, we need bodies and lots of them. I just don’t know how having uniforms that scare all but the most dedicated racialists help in achieving that objective.

However, it appears that uniforms have a way of bringing out the worst in our enemies, which has some advantages. Hal Turner said on his radio show that it costs communities a great deal of money to protect rallies from the mud savages and leftist freaks. So I can imagine that if there were enough uniformed troops, that rally over every anti-white outrage that that would eventually strike the state where it hurts the worst, in their finances.


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Posted : 03/01/2006 6:05 am
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