White Revolution is the only solution.

Yeah and you need a face lift so what.....

You guys really need to get some new material.

Hell all the Miller supporters want to talk about a project that was sure to reach the masses, do any of you remember the internet tv show called White Revolution TV? It was probably the best thing the internet had for getting to the masses but did any of you Miller supporters support this Revolutionary project??? No of course not and it went under due to lack of funds.

Those TV shows were great. I hope White Revolution can round up enough funds to start doing them again. I donated $10 and I know that's really not a lot, but I was hoping that enough other people would do the same. I likely would have kept giving. That project had a lot more going for it than the tabloid.

Look at how much money got raised for lawyer fees for Matt Hale and Chester Doles. Why do so many more people want to give their money to pay for lawyers and so little goes toward building a better white media? How many more people are we going to bring to our side with expensive lawyers?

If WR ever decides to start doing the eTV shows again, there should be a sticky thread in the activism forum about that. I definately agree that those shows were the best thing the internet had for getting the masses. Unfortunately, there wasn't enough people here who saw that to be true. Either that, or they like it better defending some one they like more than going on the offense and taking our internet activism to the next level.

Let me get this straight...our intention wasn't to undermine the Tabloid it was to get a share of the profits of an enterprise that earned no profit? No, I guess our motives are so transparent it doesn't take a Scooby Doo to figure it out.

Ben Vinyard

Umm, maybe yes, maybe no, Ben. Although the tabloid wouldn't be considered profitable in the usual business sense it did generate over 2 grand in a little over 2 months. It is my understanding that all monies were accounted for and expenses paid and the rest put to subsequent issues. 2000 is not a lot of money but we janitors call it cash flow and it's possible that since the tabloid was put forth on a server hosted by WR then WR might want a piece of the action, as they say.

I'm not saying this to insult you or demean you. All I am saying is that it has been my experience in life that the motivations of human beings have more to do with self interest than with high minded ideals.

And you know this how? Linder told you this when? This is posted where? Please show me. I would like to see this in writing since we all know that those who support informants are to be considered the same, and not to be trusted.

"Birds of a feather"

Ok then shake a leg and start printing. Do something for your beloved informant. Take initiative. You seem so hot to have him replaced right this very second, so by all means, print away.

Oh ok....so since Miller is super ass clerk to Linder, he calls the shots. Now I understand. Why, you should have just said so in the beginning sweety, why the hatred? *sniff*

You are full of shit. You do not just take over a tabloids printing and distro without first consulting the owner/editor. If Linder has made the tabloid available for all to print up and distribute freely, please, link me to the page. (And just because there is a PDF of the tab, does not mean shit unless stated) If this is so, then clearly there was no need for a "clerk" to begin with. Printing up a 6 page (front & back) black and white tabloid does not cost an arm and a leg. 20,000 isn't shit. Anyone can haul their asses down to a local print shop and do it themselves. Fuck the excuse of having some "bud" who can give rat boy a good deal. He has quite a lot of those "buds" in main stream doesn't he? It seems to me as if Miller has a lot of money to be throwing at a tabloid, and all of his other "donations" to the cause. Anyone ever question him on that?

Subscription, funding, bulk prices, etc. Get your ass away from the electric fireplace, and do it your self hot shot. Linder will be back once he gains the web space and Vb account, and I am sure Miller will be with him.

But as I said before, if Linder, THE OWNER OF AA, would pull his head out of his ass, dump the rat and ask for some help in the areas you have mentioned, there are plenty of individuals who are willing to do so. Any good pro white material is worth distributing.

Ignorant? *yawn*

When and if Alex regains the forum, Miller will still be the super precious "clerk". So there really is no need for anyone to take over any of the printing unless Linder says otherwise correct? Miller still has plenty of copies, just the other day he was whining like a bitch on the rag about how none of you were buying them. Guess his tactics don't work so well. I was interested in Linders tabloid myself. But it does not take a rocket scientist to figure out that buying from the enemy is not "kosher". Like that word, don't ya "babe"??

JB, the issue here is exactly this: If Linder needed someone to take over printing, he would have said so in his previous posts on this very same thread.

But he did not.

If there truly is a need for help, and the correct decisions are made on his part, Linder has it. I don't see you offering anything but jew speak.

I am not a member of White Revolution. I am a supporter because I have seen first hand what they have done for our children and POW/PP's.

But of course a federal informant sympathizer such as you would not understand.

Now start printing, the white race is depending on you.

Sweety, I didn't offer to do it, YOU did.

Alex has informed me that he put a check in the mail for the last month of service and for my assistance in the migration today, much to his credit. If we were so concerned about money, then please explain to me why, once it arrives, "Return to Sender, Refused" will be written on it just before it's getting dropped back in the mail?

-Tom

Umm, maybe yes, maybe no, Ben. Although the tabloid wouldn't be considered profitable in the usual business sense it did generate over 2 grand in a little over 2 months. It is my understanding that all monies were accounted for and expenses paid and the rest put to subsequent issues. 2000 is not a lot of money but we janitors call it cash flow and it's possible that since the tabloid was put forth on a server hosted by WR then WR might want a piece of the action, as they say.

I'm not saying this to insult you or demean you. All I am saying is that it has been my experience in life that the motivations of human beings have more to do with self interest than with high minded ideals.

I think, given all the evidence submitted by both parties involved, there is a MAJOR possibility that Glenn Miller did what is advertised and I agree with WR's decision 100%.

Rats have no place in the active movement whatsoever.

Good to see you, Edberg.

Unfortunately I am pretty sure that WR and everything relevant to WR will be banned from VNN after Linder/Miller gain back control. But it is my understading that WHite Revolution will be putting up its own vbulletin forum up in the near future. It really is all about the funds and staffing. It would probably take a wealthy benefactor to see to it that White Revolution TV became a daily broadcast and a steady flow of income for a weekly broadcast and Ben would have to be able to find some staff in the Georgia area.

If WR ever decides to start doing the eTV shows again, there should be a sticky thread in the activism forum about that. I definately agree that those shows were the best thing the internet had for getting the masses. Unfortunately, there wasn't enough people here who saw that to be true. Either that, or they like it better defending some one they like more than going on the offense and taking our internet activism to the next level.

Unfortunately I am pretty sure that WR and everything relevant to WR will be banned from VNN after Linder/Miller gain back control. But it is my understading that WHite Revolution will be putting up its own vbulletin forum up in the near future.

I'll visit once and a while to watch the tumble weeds go by.

Thank you IrishJay for the support............

I think, given all the evidence submitted by both parties involved, there is a MAJOR possibility that Glenn Miller did what is advertised and I agree with WR's decision 100%.

Rats have no place in the active movement whatsoever.

I guess we will see where we each are in a year. I predict you will be sitting in a jail cell beside Linder and White Revolution well we won't be in a jail cell and you won't be on our POW list.

I'll visit once and a while to watch the tumble weeds go by.

Umm, maybe yes, maybe no, Ben. Although the tabloid wouldn't be considered profitable in the usual business sense it did generate over 2 grand in a little over 2 months. It is my understanding that all monies were accounted for and expenses paid and the rest put to subsequent issues. 2000 is not a lot of money but we janitors call it cash flow and it's possible that since the tabloid was put forth on a server hosted by WR then WR might want a piece of the action, as they say.

I'm not saying this to insult you or demean you. All I am saying is that it has been my experience in life that the motivations of human beings have more to do with self interest than with high minded ideals.

SteveB, I appreciate your concerns and opinion, but I can assure you that neither money nor the Tabloid were even the slightest bit involved in our decision. We have stated repeatedly: the one single reason we took this action was because of VNN's association with a federal informant. We felt we had to put our foot down and make a statement that associating with rats is intolerable.

Ben Vinyard

You don't know what you are talking about. language is relevant and the word Aryan refers to language, and not race.

The Basques probably come from Asia. Nobody knows for sure. Hungary, Finland, same thing. They do not speak an indo-european language.

I do consider them european, i am not a "biological materialist".

In fact, looking at that thing on that picture...oh boy... you do not want to know....

http://www.churchoftrueisrael.com/pgr/pgr-toc.html

Hello Mr. Vinyard,
I was wondering if you could delete my account here at VNN forum. I am aware that Mr. Linder will be moving VNN and I do not wish to go along nor have the name I use for posting at forums associated with Linder nor VNN. I have watched good white men be drug down here while an informant/race traitor has been praised and I want no part of it.
Thank you,
(name withheld)