WR Speaks Out on Glenn Miller

Anonymous · 2004-12-12T12:40:53Z

An Intervention… When a cancer is first diagnosed, sometimes the first impulse is denial. It’s not cancer, it’s only a mole. It’s just a rough patch of dry skin. It’s just a lump. Maybe the tumor is benign. Then…Okay, it’s cancer, but maybe it won’t spread. Maybe it won’t metastasize. Maybe it will go into remission by itself. It doesn’t seem to be spreading. Then, remaining silent isn’t enough. It becomes obvious that the problem isn’t going to go away by itself. So, I wrote a private, personal e-mail letter to Glenn Miller, advising him in cordial and regretful terms that due to White Revolution’s previous position on informants and those who testify against White Nationalists, regardless of the extenuating circumstances, in order to remain consistent, we had to hold him to the same standard. We could not endorse of participate in any of his projects, nor could we support his reemergence as a leader and an activist. I told him that the best he could hope for was for us to not attack him publicly. That was the chemotherapy phase of treatment. It failed to produce the results we wanted, which was the disappearance of the cancer. So, we had to adopt a more aggressive method of treatment, a few weeks later, when I told Alex Linder himself directly that we couldn’t endorse or support any projects sponsored by Miller, or joint VNN/Miller activities. Linder had already requested that we remove the White Revolution and PanzerFaust banners from the VNN Forum, which we had done. He had already insinuated to VNN moderators that they censor and ban those who questioned or criticized Miller, and adopted him as an ally. He refused to answer any questions from WR Moderators about this new policy, or discuss his new allegiance to Miller. So, my personal letter to him was the next step, the radiation treatment, if you will, to stop the cancer….but it didn’t encounter success, either. Since then, it has become obvious to us that just remaining silent and not endorsing Miller was not enough. Working behind the scenes to influence Linder was not enough. Expressing our opinion and policy to members and supporters alone, was not enough. A radical intervention was necessary. The Oncologist gave up, and the surgeons had to step in. We realize that Linder and others will see this as a hostile move, and that irreparable damage will be done to our working relationship with VNN, and with others who have publicly supported Miller. Frankly, we don’t care, at this point. We want to remove Miller from influence in the movement, hopefully while removing as little healthy flesh from around the festering cancer as is possible. However, if we cannot remove the cancer, at least we have done the right thing by trying. Alex Linder may well take VNN and the VNN Forum to another server as soon as he can arrange such a transfer. That’s of course his prerogative, and we’ll help provide him with whatever information, codes, or other technical assistance we can to allow him to move. It’s not our intention to hold either the VNN Forum or VNN hostage, or at all interfere with his ownership or control of them. Our intention was to make a statement, and to make our position on Miller and others who testify against White Nationalists crystal clear. Does anyone still have any confusion as to White Revolution’s positions on traitors, witnesses, and informants? Anyone? Yes, it’s a bold move, a controversial move, a polarizing move. That’s what we specialize in. Alex and whomever else wishes to can call us names and rant and rave for months on websites and all over the net, but we have taken our stand and made our position clear. That’s all that matters. Am I willing to sacrifice alliances and piss off supporters and throw away resources in order to take what I consider to be the principled and necessary stand? Absolutely. Just hide and watch, time and again. Billy Roper Chairman, White Revolution www.whiterevolution.com I've been hanging back from this debate, like all infighting, and giving Mr. Miller the benefit of the doubt. I also questioned whether or not his assisting in putting out AA would really do damage to the credibility of the movement. I view the 1980's Order period as a tragedy for our people. On the one hand, it was too early to start a guerilla war. On the other hand, how could one not sympathize? Look at all the lives ruined since the 1980's, all the damage done? If the Order had been able to win a White homeland, or even scare the ZOG into pulling back it's anti-White measures, it would have been well worth it. The Order was trying to avert millions of tragedies that have happened since then, and for that I can only be grateful. Glen Miller was caught up a middle land] From Ben Vinyard: Mr. Freeman, Thank you for your measured and reasonable post. This was by far the toughest decision our organization has had to make. Mr. Linder is an honorable man and you’re right, it’s been painful watching a good comrade and a friend fall on the sword....

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You're unbelievable. Just unbelievable. I had you pegged for a retard the moment I first laid eyes on you and although Billy insisted otherwise, I see that my first judgment was the correct one. What exactly have you done, blue boots?
How're those spandex bicycle shorts working for you? Any new wives leave you for slant eyes lately?
You're a joke. You've always been a joke and I regret even having the limited association I've had with you.
Somebody give this guy some blue nail polish... I think it's wearing off of his boots.

-Tom

Okay, let's suppose Miller was a traitor 20 years ago. The Order was a bunch of losers. Their doctrine was crap! Their plan for starting an Aryan revolution was crap. Their bank robbing plan was executed like crap. They did, see if you can guess it, crap for the race. Their legacy is crap.

Even if Miller had not been an informant, the Order's plans still would have been crap. Any way you cut it, there was never any way that anything the Order ever did was ever going to turn out to be anything but crap. These guys were not exactly the sharpest knives in the drawer.

How is it worthwhile to have so much controversy over a bunch of has-beens that proved themselves losers over 2 decades ago?

Posted : 15/12/2004 2:32 pm

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You have a no movement website set up, WR, but yet you spend all your time on VNN. At least I don't have to foist 20-year-past has-beens as a ploy for attention.

Posted : 15/12/2004 2:34 pm

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breaking the rules of the Civil Forum.

Maybe I should move this thread to the "Civil Forum" so that I can purge it of any opposition to our stance and then ban the people that disagree. That's pretty much what was done, which is why I unbanned Norcal. That's bullshit.
You don't agree with what we did. How would you feel if I moved this thread to the civil forum so that I could delete your posts in this thread and then ban you? Sound fair?

-Tom

Posted : 15/12/2004 2:38 pm

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You have a no movement website set up, WR, but yet you spend all your time on VNN. At least I don't have to foist 20-year-past has-beens as a ploy for attention.

Nope. I certainly don't.
Panzerfaust's site definately doesn't constitute a "movement website."
I don't know what I was thinking.
Not to mention www.wvskinheads.com www.cosmotheism.net www.thunderboltoftruth.net and a bunch of others that I've had a hand in that I don't care to try and remember. Brilliant point there, Robbie.

Posted : 15/12/2004 2:40 pm

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Whatever. Stab folks in the back enough, they don't want to work with you. Ha ha ha, blue boots. At least I'm not a backstabber. Who's back are you going to stab next?

Posted : 15/12/2004 2:41 pm

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Maybe I should move this thread to the "Civil Forum" so that I can purge it of any opposition to our stance and then ban the people that disagree. That's pretty much what was done, which is why I unbanned Norcal. That's bullshit.
You don't agree with what we did. How would you feel if I moved this thread to the civil forum so that I could delete your posts in this thread and then ban you? Sound fair?

-Tom

Exactly. That is the truth of what happened.

Calling this thread a 'civil forum' then banning those who disagree might teach them Lindermiller hypocrites a lesson -- but I doubt it.

--Martin Lindstedt

Posted : 15/12/2004 2:41 pm

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Whatever.

Ah, whatever, always the last defense in a lost debate. Jackass.

Posted : 15/12/2004 2:43 pm

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Yes. And I read about all of the bullshit that Human Services has put him through over his grandchildren with flimsy evidence. What he is experiencing should have everyone up in arms. It scares the hell out of me.

Nah, second thought, lets make fun of his wife and appearence. No WN should look like them two, right?

Posted : 15/12/2004 2:44 pm

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Nope. I certainly don't.
Panzerfaust's site definately doesn't constitute a "movement website."
I don't know what I was thinking.
Not to mention www.wvskinheads.com www.cosmotheism.net www.thunderboltoftruth.net and a bunch of others that I've had a hand in that I don't care to try and remember. Brilliant point there, Robbie.

All that blather just to sell a bunch of t-shirts. That's all you'll ever be good for is a salesman. Hawk a few cds while you're at it.

Posted : 15/12/2004 2:44 pm

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Yeah, that and have a hand in making some of the best pieces of propaganda to hit this thing in a long, long time. 100,000 CDs that are both visually and audibly appealing to kids, put in kids hand's, at no profit.

-Tom

All that blather just to sell a bunch of t-shirts. That's all you'll ever be good for is a salesman. Hawk a few cds while you're at it.

Posted : 15/12/2004 2:47 pm

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"So I'll have been put on permanent moderation at Stormfront..."

And rightfully so. You should wear this badge of honor proudly and as proof and with public perspicacity that you've finally made it into the lofty ranks of that Most Super Excellent White Nationalist. Congratulations and a Brotherly pat on the back.

The ink of the learned is as precious as the blood of the martyr. For one drop of ink may make millions think.

Posted : 15/12/2004 3:33 pm

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A more pertinent question might be why can't we attract large LEGAL donations from wealthy arabs?
...
Though this is important, there are other things that demand more of our attention. Things like what Martin Lindstedt's wife looks like or that an NA staffer once stole a stamp from WLP's drawer. The list goes on, but until we expose every WN leader that ever snuck a peek at a silicone titty on the net, we should not look into the Arab-WN thing anymore.

Great satire!

Certainly something to think about...

Posted : 15/12/2004 3:38 pm

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Thx, brutus. By the way, Dr. Demarais, in the latest 'Dispatch', which comes with 'Thunderbolt of Truth',
http://thunderboltoftruth.net
says Gliebe personally kicked Kelso out of the NA. So Alex, Kelso, and, I think, Billy, have all been kicked out.

Jamie's also attained a new nadir, number 6, in the Stormfront beauty contest:
http://www.stormfront.org/forum/memberlist.php?&order=DESC&sort=reputation

...But we're all in the same racial fight. We must remember. I hope Strom remembers his old friend Jamie, now that Jamie is long past being just 'on the skids' with the NA.

Posted : 15/12/2004 3:40 pm

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Dont waste your keystrokes Tom. It is people like you who do shit the rest of us dont want to. All sites you have designed, and the rest you allow on your server for free, all do one thing]

Exactly. There is nothing to debate. Miller admitted to being a ZOG rat and a race-mixer. What else needs to be said?

Them pore Lindermillerites are still here, whining about being victimized. They don't like being called names like "idiot" and "traitor."

Of course when Sgt. Snitch turns in his pay stubs to the Ashkenazi Defecation League, Moreass-the-Sleezester (and Miller admits that he was prohibited by kort order and his own agreement with Dees to get out of the Movement before he got caught drunk in an SW Missouri trailer house with weapons and explosives and narked out his lieutenants), and the FiBbIes, the Lindermillers will be far more afflicted for their stupidity and feeblemindedness and lack of character than any harsh language they get here on WR during their eviction.

--Martin Lindstedt
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Posted : 15/12/2004 3:41 pm

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Does anyone actually read Martin Lindsdet's posts?

I usually do a quick "once over" and that's it. He really isn't contributing anything worthwhile...

:rolleyes:

Posted : 15/12/2004 3:46 pm

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