Really what about at Waffle house Robert when you sat in the car. Hell even the women were in the mellee on that one. WHat about the incident at the liquor store. Albeit it was a rather stupid thing to be done but you did'nt have to come busting up in my house acting like someone was just murdered.

Chris and Ben:

If I had wanted to get into a provocation involving negroes, I would have participated. That fact is that you and your pals needlessly provoked the animals over nothing. There are better things to do for the race than simply going to a local Waffle House and starting fights with negroes. Does your master Billy Roper also advocate picking fights with negroes at the Waffle House? If he'll go (physically) and allow you to pick fights with negroes, then I promise I'll go and watch. I want to hear your boss Billy talk about how much he enjoys members like you provoking negroes that were clearly minding their own business. Talk about incompetence. The liquor store incident was another such episode. A drunken local member starts wailing on a negro minding its own business. If you want to pick fights with negro animals in ones and twos, go right ahead. To me, you displayed utter incompetence, because you let such behavior occur continually. What about Matt what's his name who appeared in the Arkansas Times? He was your screw-up, not mine. If you want to talk incompetence, try looking in the mirror.

But once and for all on the 13 year old. My recollection is, and if I'm incorrect on these facts, I'm sure you'll tell me. These are the assumptions I wrote with.

1. the man arrested was arrested at the meeting place of the supposed girl.
2. the girl never in fact existed. The man was talking to the police the whole time.
3. since no girl ever existed, no penetration ever in fact took place. no girl = no sex.
4. the man in question was not looking so much for a short time relationship but instead a long-term relationship.
5. Up until about the 19th century, Statutory Rape laws largely didn't exist. If you condemn me for advocating early marriage, you must also condemn a large number of CI racists as well. Traditionally, child molestation occured in children - i.e. before puberty. Certainly I never advocated this. But what is the cut-off? 17 like in most states? 16? 15? 14? 13? How come 13 used to be considered legal and now merely posing thought qualifies one for jewish pilloring?
6. If I'm wrong for advocating marriage between 13-year-olds, I'd also like to see your comdemnation of the CI communities. Fair is fair after all. If you're going to call me a "pervert," you ought to call them one also. Show us all how big the WR umbrella really is. Show us all how WR puts aside their differences to work with other organizations.

Now if I was somehow incorrect on any of this then:

1. why was I not given a chance to clarify any of what was written?
2. why was no attention given to the disclaimer I wrote at the end of each and every post?: "The view expressed here do not necessarily reflect the views of WR".
3. why didn't another poster make a post to clarify the WR position? heaven forbid there had actually been a countering opinion and that actually generated some web traffic. It's a shame you could never mobilize those "complainers" into actually contributing anything to the WR website. How many of the complainers were jews btw?

What are we to conclude about WR?

1. There isn't room for alternate opinions. Whether its about it being legal for two 13-year-olds to marry just isn't up for discussion. Extracting an accused traitor's labor for the good of the race also isn't up for discussion.
2. The so-called WR umbrella is in fact a myth. It's one organization with only one viewpoint. Those wearing swastikas or wishing to reform traitors need not apply - no matter what kind of arguments might be stated.
3. If one should so much as dare ask an uncomfortable question, stand by to be insulted, bullied, and otherwise spat upon. It's literally the, "my way or the hi-way attitude."
4. It goes without saying that one shouldn't expect hard questions to be answered.
5. The decisions of WR are immediate and allow no room for discussion.

I have made my points. There is no need for me to post on this thread anymore re: Miller.
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There was no need for Franco, JungleBunny112, and the rest of the Lindermillerites to post anything regarding Traitor Glenn Miller. They are not susceptable to reason. But I am sure glad they did so.

Earlier this year I tried to recruit Traitor Glenn Miller to run for US Senate in Missouri. Still didn't trust or like the bastard, but Sgt. Snitch always has had plenty of ZOG-bux to pay for advertising in the local Aurora Missery jewspaper. $185 just for one paid jewpaper ad. If Traitor Glenn Miller got out of line, then I'd simply say the truth -- that Miller has always been a ZOG agent. However, running for Senaturd didn't mean that anyone would get trapped, especially if Sgt. Snitch was running an open political campaign. It ain't the rat or snake you know for such and where it is at that you have to worry about. It's the unknown rat or snake that is dangerous.

Well, Sgt. Snitch blew hot and cold on me, like the Feds were switching their pet rat off and on. So then Sgt. Snitch finally got a computer and read what I was saying about it all the time and got all huffy, saying that I had insulted its non-existent manhood by saying that he was a notorious snitch and coward. So there went Sgt. Snitch's chance to do something honorable for a cumback. He could have run for pubic office, railed about niggers and jews to its hearts content, and if it behaved itself maybe I mightn't have outed it, but I doubt it. I really intended to use the rat to catch other rats who were really stupid and then throw the rat trap into the sewer where they could drown. It's fun to have rats rat on other rats, then kill all the rats ratted out. I was positively gloating about my potential catch when I was baiting the Miller rat.

Traitor Glenn Miller isn't interested in using its ZOG-bux in areas where it couldn't do any harm. Its original book is full of whining that it was Moreass-the-Sleezester and federal judges which have exiled Sgt. Snitch from the Movement. Sgt Snitch still can't understand that its actions kicked it out of the Movement.

My posting Miller's book onto the Internet in early 2001 was undertaken after I asked permission from Louis Beam and Katya Lane. After all, everybody who is anybody has a copy. My purpose was to put it unabridged onto the Net, but have Miller's enemies have a say as well. Same way with the Senate race. I wasn't worried in the least if Traitor Glenn Miller made it necessary, getting too big for its britches running for US Senaturd, for me to lower the boom on the rat. The point to be made is that ZOG uses rats and cowards all the time, and that no one in the Movement is beyond suspicion. As I looked at it, there wasn't any reason not to use one of ZOG's rats in a non-sensitive position as long as you had a big stick to club it over the head if necessary. The problem is that Linder and the rest of the Lindermillerites have actually grown to love this piece of shit, and can't figure out that if they started out to use it when to lose it.

Now my reasoning was never a secret because I posted it on VNN. Then Linder decided to actually post Miller's 'packets' in reaction to my posts concerning Traitor Glenn Miller. The posts were called "Glenn Miller Responds to M. Lindstedt." I think that they were useful because they smoked out the Lindermillerites. Alex Linder isn't ever going to live this matter down, nor are jewBergjewberg or WhiggerSwill (Will Williams) and a lot more other traitors. A caught rat that attracts other rats is simply good counterintelligence work. It is a pity that the Old Resistance didn't have the tools and equipment to flush out potential rats before they nearly got their peckers nailed at Ft. Smith. Louis Beam didn't write "Leaderless Resistance" even though that has always been Christian Identity policy until after the Ft. Smith Sedition Trial.

This thread has flushed out a lot of probable rats, self-serving solipsists who will turn rat in a second, whigger jack-offs playing tourist and plenty of feebs who don't belong in the better part of the Movement as a whole, much less the Resistance. Roper, Vinyard, Tom88, and the rest of you WR people are a lot better off knowing who is a likely rat by taking careful note of those who chose the other side, regardless of how many of them call you a bunch of assholes. What is better? Knowing what side your former friends really are on, or getting completely blindsided by foolishly trusting them? Your false friends have told you loudly and repeatedly that they view race-mixing and ratting as acceptable. I'd be sure to believe them since they told you that when they got pissed off. That's why I never drink anything when I am at a Movement gathering -- I'd rather the 'in vino veritas' (in wine there is truth) to work on my behalf as opposed to against me. Stay alert and stay alive. You ought to thank the Lindermillerites telling you how they think the cow ate the cabbage.

That doesn't mean that you should trust those who said they were on your side. They may be smart ZOG agents. But those who tell you loud and long that they support ZOG rats should ALWAYS be listened to. The fools are wannabe rats. I sure do believe them.

You need to be as wise as serpents and as harmless as doves if you want to survive to maturity.

--Martin Lindstedt
http://www.martinlindstedt.org

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And that ends the debate with our federal informant. Miller loses.
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Uh... just a minute Ben.

Question number 1 was a two-part question. Before I could verify “now or ever” we had a “hostile takeover” here at VNN. Your declarations aside... this matter has not been resolved and it certainly is not closed.

You bad boys think about that next time you wish to “intervene.”

Uh... just a minute Ben.

Question number 1 was a two-part question. Before I could verify “now or ever” we had a “hostile takeover” here at VNN. Your declarations aside... this matter has not been resolved and it certainly is not closed.

You bad boys think about that next time you wish to “intervene.”

Another good post from you. I've noticed recently that there are quite a few of us on this forum who live in Southern California (altho I live in the desert 140 miles north of the LA hellhole), so I think maybe we should plan a little get together sometime. The internet's a great thing, but there's no substitute for personal contact and friendship. Hell, I even think we could form a Southern California VNN chapter that would be stronger than anything NA or WR ever did.

88/rich
http://www.whitealert.com

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The point to be made is that ZOG uses rats and cowards all the time, and that no one in the Movement is beyond suspicion.
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This thread has flushed out a lot of probable rats...
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Yes... it has!

You didn't have a problem with Glenn Miller as your Senate candidate.

Therefore...Deductive Logic leads us to only one possible conclusion: YOU ARE A RAT !

ROFL...

Good Night Marty.

Another good post from you. I've noticed recently that there are quite a few of us on this forum who live in Southern California (altho I live in the desert 140 miles north of the LA hellhole), so I think maybe we should plan a little get together sometime. The internet's a great thing, but there's no substitute for personal contact and friendship. Hell, I even think we could form a Southern California VNN chapter that would be stronger than anything NA or WR ever did.

88/rich
http://www.whitealert.com

My sentiments exactly WA.

Lets discuss this after the holidays.

Cheers.

Yes... it has!

You didn't have a problem with Glenn Miller as your Senate candidate.

Therefore...Deductive Logic leads us to only one possible conclusion: YOU ARE A RAT !

ROFL...

Good Night Marty.

Only a jew calls me 'Marty.'

Therefore...Deductive Logic leads us to only one possible conclusion: jEW ARE A jEW !

Puta-nnacht, Fagassm.

--Martin Lindstedt

Did I say Miller gave me any information on you? I don't recall saying that. Perhaps you could show the post where I made that claim or stop lying. I stated in another post that I tried calling Miller 18 times to tell him what I was thinking so when I made a post here no one could say I talked behind his back.

I don’t care where you live and who you are, you are the one that wanted to find me and try to get me expelled from my congregation and made idiotic claims I threatened you or something to that effect. You are a username in cyberspace so it doesn’t mean anything to me, put me on ignore if you don’t like me.

You got a Princeton phone book?

I guess you are right you got me. I don't actually exist I am a computer virus there is no such person as Sean Martin. I am almost beginning to think you don’t like me.

I am glad to see you know your name is retard. Hey stupid you don't have to have physical possession of the phonebook anymore. In case you have not heard the white pages are on the Internet. I also have the phone numbers for the only 2 CofC's in Princeton.

Church of Christ
East Main, Princeton, WV 24740
(304) 425-3235

Memorial Church of Christ
311 New Hope Road, Princeton, WV 24740
(304) 425-5002

In case anyone wants to call and verify the existence of our Nazi preacher.

Wow, you guys were busy at it last night, apparently. I don't get off work until nine p.m., and have almost an hour commute home, so I don't really get on-line at night that much. Some random comments on what was posted:

1. WR Cadre is "The Secret Squirrel Society"? Yep! "We root out the nuts!" I think that was originally Jerry Wayne's quote, so I'll give him credit. Actually, I take responsibility for Robert. For years, WR and, prior to that, NA members had warned me that he demonstrated serious mental problems. That wasn't just because of his stay in a mental institution, his suicidal tendencies, or his sporadic dependence on psychotropic medication. It was other things, which I won't embarrass him by going into, long before his writing became an issue.
I constantly and continually defended him to other members and activists, long after I should have stopped doing so...to the point that it made me look silly to keep defending him, actually. I have a tendency to hate to give up on people. Sound familar, Alex? And, let's be honest, a lot of people in the movement are somewhat quirky and eccentric. Happy and well-adjusted people don't generally make good revolutionaries, after all. But, things went too far with Robert (She looks White to me, brother)'s writings, we just had too many complaints, and after I read what he wrote, I concurred. So, I asked him to remove the offensive writings from our website. He balked and blew up and resigned. Then I talked to him on the phone and we agreed not to attack each other, to go our own ways peacefully. Soon after, he went over to another member's house and verbally attacked me to them. I questioned him about that, and he stated that "it was a delayed reaction". Whatever. I won't say that Robert would molest children, but he does have some serious mental and emotional issues of which anyone associating with him should be aware. This means you, Jeff, if you're reading this. Scott of the ANSE is a better, more stable choice for NSM Arkansas representative, in my opinion.

2. Counselor Flynn, I didn't mean to imply that Alex was indistinguishable from Jenkins, I'm sorry if it sounded that way from my post. We respect your legal opinion, and your personal opinion, as well.

3. Franco and others: Ben is right, we really can't make the issue any more plain and direct. It doesn't matter whether he was ratted on first, or what events led to his testimony against White Nationalists. Are you the kind of liberal who would say that a White woman who had miscegenated and spewed forth mulatto animals should be forgiven and rehabilitated if her mother had also dated blacks, or encouraged her to do so? Maybe she came from a bad home, and was brainwashed in integrated public schools to love blacks. Hey, maybe a friend of hers dated them first, before she did, and introduced her to Tyrone, so that makes it understandable. Maybe any White girl growing up in the ghetto, with race-mixing parents, indoctrinated by public schools, whose friends miscegenated, would see race mixing as "the only decision available". Hey, everybody would do it, under those circumstances. You can't tell me that you definitely wouldn't, if you were her, and that was the situation you faced. So, let's welcome her back into our race. Some of you single guys need a girlfriend. Here she is. What do you say? Isn't she a catch? Can't you forgive her, and love her freely?

If your answer is not a resounding YES, then either you don't REALLY think that Miller deserves a pass, or you are holding our women to a different standard, a higher standard, than you are him. That makes you hypocrites.

It doesn't matter why, or how, or when. Treason is treason. No excuses.
And, there's no coming back from it.

Otherwise, George Burdi and T.J. Leyden and Tom Martinez need to be rehabilitated, right? Well, let's at least bring them all on here and debate them, let's give them a chance to explain their side of the story. I'm sure that they have some compelling excuses, too. To not allow them on here and debate them, face to face, would just be cowardly, wouldn't it?

Of course, there are some authoritarian types in the N.A. who will never sway in their support of Gliebe and Co., regardless of what kind of facts or persuasive arguments are presented to them. Likewise, there are some authoritarian types in VNN who will never sway in their support of Miller regardless of how plainly we state our case. That's lemming nature.

-Billy

That makes his actions even worse.

If my auntie had balls would it make her my uncle? Sorry for the smart response, but it is entirely irrelevant who led the feds to Miller. I don't care if it was Bruce Pierce, Doctor Pierce or Hawkeye Pierce. It doesn't change the simple and obvious fact that he testified against men who did not rat on him or who did not testify against him, like Richard Scutari, Pastor Butler, Robert Miles and Louis Beam.

Ben Vinyard

Since we don't have the court transcripts to look at ,how do we know the questions were not benign done by the prosecutors to fish for information on what he knew about these men. Example: how long have you known them, what kind of activities are they involved with.

Cont'd:

How do we know that all glenn did was say he had heard of them and they were in white groups. This could have been initiated by the Government to look for things, he may not have said anything bad about them. As for the two guys he was hiding out with I remember he said they had turned on him and that's why he got mad at them. There's two sides to the story here we need to hear.

http://www.whiteextinction.com

Your repulsive attitude shows once more. Listen you fucking child molester, I was asking for facts, and Ben Vinyard was nice enough to give them to me. Without lecturing me on the "superiority" of CI dipshits like yourself.

Why are so repulsive, anyways? You don't seem like a good Christian to me. First off, you possibly molested some kids. Second, you curse and say more disgusting things than I do. Third, you do nothing but bitch, I've never seen one positive thing come outta your keyboard. And who the fuck are YOU to talk shit about me posting on a message board? I'm sorry, but what are you doing? Sending your messages with your mind? Jesus typing them up for you? Anyways, I'm through with the arguing. Its pointless and just frustrating.

PS: CI enforcer? Cute...

I keep forgetting about the ignore feature. No more Lindstedt!

That repulsion you feel, SheepTerror, is the normal Genesis 3:15 enmity kicking in. The jewsual spawn of Stan enmity for the White Man and vice versa. Now as modified as a typical whigger nutsionalist hiding behind a keybored vs. a Christian Identity enforcer. By the way, whigger ass-clown, the repulsion is mutual.
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By the way, SheepTerror, since I forgot to kick jewr ass in the past couple of paragraphs, fuck off now.

--Martin Lindstedt
http://www.martinlindstedt.org

Franco and others: Ben is right, we really can't make the issue any more plain and direct. It doesn't matter whether he was ratted on first, or what events led to his testimony against White Nationalists. Are you the kind of liberal who would say that a White woman who had miscegenated and spewed forth mulatto animals should be forgiven and rehabilitated if her mother had also dated blacks, or encouraged her to do so?

I didn't know that Miller's kid had anything to do with Miller's testimony. Please explain how it might.

They use a term in the legal profession called "chain of events." Perhaps you should research that? Order-of-events very much matters in law. Why would it not matter in Miller's case?

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I thought that a whigger cunt-tree lieyer was going to ignore me altogether.

But it is a typical ZOGling whigger ass-clown pretending to be a whigger-nutsionalist which always believes ZOG lies and hates real activists for no other reason than because the genuine article holds jewr kind in contempt.

By all means, confine jewrself to the TGMNN ghetto.

--Martin Lindstedt
http://www.martinlindstedt.org

By All Means, please confine yourself to fighting your glorious-but-fruitless pro se battles for freedom from black helicopters against two-bit state government officials, "ass-clown."

John

As an analogy, I was equating one form of treason with another, that is, commiting miscegenation with being a ZOG informant and witness. Miller has committed both, though, hasn't he?

Which do you feel is worse? Or, are they equally forgivable?

I was also making the point that external pressures or circumstances shouldn't define or reshape one's internal moral sense of right and wrong, or personal honor and loyalty. Situational ethics is a game that jews play. WE are supposed to have principles and standards that are timeless and inflexible.
Aren't we? Or, do we decide right and wrong based on what others have done in general, or done to us specifically, or what we or our families might face as consequences of our actions?

Victory or defeat are in the hands of the gods. Honor alone is under our control.

-Billy