Ok so everyone please note that if Norcal rats on Franco, Franco is going to turn around and rat on all of you and it is totally justifiable in Francos book because it was the order of events that forced him to testify against all of you. You know I don't think any of your arguments are really based on facts. They are based on your prespective of the world and your prespective of the world,from what I gather from your posts, is that it is alright to become a federal informant and testify against everyone even if it was just one man who caused Franco to get caught up in the mess. Of course we can't blame Franco for taking the money now can we. It has now been determined that you can now rat on anyone you like so long as your testimony is basic knowledge and does'nt put anyone away. It is also ok to rat on a group of people even if it was just one man out of the group who ratted on you. It has also been determined that if the group of people are just petty criminals who rob banks then it is ok to rat on them.

I didn't know that Miller's kid had anything to do with Miller's testimony. Please explain how it might.

They use a term in the legal profession called "chain of events." Perhaps you should research that? Order-of-events very much matters in law. Why would it not matter in Miller's case?

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John,
Robert is far from a comrade. He is a mentally unstable man who has made it his life goal to undermine Billy, Ben,Tom,myself and all of White Revolution for what he views as us stabbing him in the back. He was only posting here to get under our skin and it obviously worked. The best way he could do that is insult the Order in every way he possibly could. I really wish you would'nt call us thieves for temporarily taking over this forum but if that is the way you feel about it , so be it.

Chris Quimby
WRMC

Well that's a good and professional way to address a comrade, just because he disagrees with you. What the hell is wrong with you Tom? You steal from Alex claiming it is for "honor" and now you make wholesale attacks against anyone who suggests you might be wrong.

John

I don't beleive Robert criticized the "theft" as you call it. I beleive he critized The Order and called the whole episode irrelevant.

Chris Quimby
WRMC

Stealing from comrades and then shitting on comrades who criticize the theft is "acting white?!?" GMAFB!

John

No sheer that is untrue at best you guys can say one man may have ratted on Miller. Not the whole Order. All you guys have is a newspaper article that states Bruce Peirce admitted to the feds that the Order gave Miller some money and that statement was retracted. That implicates Bruce Pierce at best.

By that logic, you should be shunning the Order members as well. They ratted on Miller. But, Lane is somewhat of a WN celebrity, so that'll never happen.

You are such a hipocrite Phantasm. On the one hand you declare that the Order is'nt anymore credible than Glen Miller and then turn around and blame us for destorying evidence from Glenn Miller which IS'NT CREDIBLE. WHY?? Because the man is/was a federal informant and is'nt going to sit here and tell you guys the whole truth and nothing but the truth. Give me a break. That's like the Order getting out of Prison and telling us they did'nt rob any armored cars. No wonder you guys can't see our point you are dumber than a lead pencil sometimes.

I got a stupid question,if Glen Miller was admitted to the federal witness protection program so he could be protected from the movement what the hell is he doing trying to worm his way back into the movement?? I mean should'nt he be in the witness protection program still????

Point taken John.
But where is the "evidence" to support this... other than newspaper and other media information? You know how the media is... they spin and distort and lie. And the individuals coming forward (from behind bars) are no more credible than Glenn Miller. Furthermore, the people persecuting Glenn Miller right now destroyed all the information that was available for analysis.

If this were a court of law the case would be thrown out and Billy Roper would be arrested for obstruction of justice.

Oh yeah you avoid arrest by buying gernades, rockets and fully automatic weapons???? Um I don't know about you but I would have just moved to South America or something. AH yes but what you are forgetting is that Louis Beam spent the entire Sedition trial in jail because of Miller and rats like Miller. Richard Butler did time in jail because of it and so did quite a few others. Sure they were'nt put away for life but even 1 day in jail due to a rats testimony is one day to many.

John, you forget that the only reason he ever decided to go underground was to avoid arrest. The feds were already after him, due to the facts divulged by the dozen Order members who ratted, right up to no. 2 man Pierce. So you see, instead of making a deal the moment all of these clowns rolled over on each other and confessed giving him money, he denied it all, continued operating the WPP, and then 'declared war on ZOG' rather than be taken in. He owed not one iota of loyalty to the Order after this, and no one in the Order served a day in jail on account of his confirmation of having received money, a fact already well established by the numerous witnesses who idiotically were made to observe the money transfer.